Werewolf LXXXVIII: Game Thread

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Danny

We could always lynch the dead body of Packerfanatic for his booze. We might need it the way were going.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Ok, I have to run, as it is a two-job day.

Yesterday was a bad day, but it was a bad choice for the demons to off Tyrith instead of Render, JE and RealDeal, who remain cleared, unless I am missing something. And RD says we have another villager.

The remaining uncleared (from everyone's perspective, not my own) are The Jackal, myself, Danny, jeheiz and DT, I believe. Someone correct me if I am wrong. So there's an angel and two demons in that group. I am none of them myself. I am also pretty sure who the two demons are, but that's because I amk certain of my own allegiance, which none of the rest of you has any proof of. So I guess I will leave that up to you.

Instead, I will contribute my work to the cathedral, and put my fate at the feet of the village.

I highly recommend looking at friends of the old clap, if anyone's listening to me anymore.

VOTE ROOF
VOTE ROOF

That should finish the roof.

In here CR says he is pretty certain who the two demons are, but doesn't say any names, this is odd.

[RendeR]

We're having huge internet issues at work, if I don't make it back I'll check up when I get home later tonight.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Danny

My no lynch strategy is gone obviously. Render, I feel you are likely good and have all game, but with two bad lynches in a row, you do start to get a little paranoid.

As for CR, I knew that he found out Tyrith was Gabriel because I found out that night as well. And then when I was converted the following day it backed that up. I don't know if the fact he knew that and then sat on not killing him for a day makes him more or less likely to be a wolf.

DT, I definitely think we should use your power sometime soon. Personally, I think every player should post the following. I am not a demon. And then you can choose who you want to find out about.

still reading and catching up, but i thought i explained this to render earlier - it doesn't work that way. it can't be a "coerced statement" (the judgement of what that entails is up to BK)

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

This morning the damage is more spread out than what you saw yesterday, and is somewhat substantial. You're so close you can taste it, but you're not quite there yet.

Walls - Repaired
Roof - 6 Shifts
Windows - 5 shifts
Artwork - 4 shifts
Carpentry - 3 shifts

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Another quiet day, another easy lynch. You hammer down on KWhit and discover yet another villager.



Walls - Repaired
Roof - 2 Shifts
Windows - 2 shifts
Artwork - 3 shifts
Carpentry - 2 shifts

KWhit – Tyrith (983), Danny (985), Real (1001)

Carpentry – Tyrith (977),
Windows – Danny (985), Render (988), CR (999), Real (1001)
Roof – Jackal (989), DT (992), JE (997), JE (997), Jackal (998)
Art – DT (992), CR (999)

Food for thought:

Looks like either DT or CR faked their work on the artwork yesterday. There was also a fake on the roof.

[DaddyTorgo]

so i could take a look back at the posts of say jackel or jeheinz and see if i can find something to truth-test.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Food for thought:

Looks like either DT or CR faked their work on the artwork yesterday. There was also a fake on the roof.

This is great stuff

[Danny]

Assuming JE and Render are good, this means there are two demons out of CR, Jackal and DT unless DT is a demon and faked one unit each the roof and artwork.

[Danny]

It also means that if DT is good then both CR and the Jackal must be bad. I almost buy it as more likely that DT faked one unit on each location instead of CR faking one on Art and then Jackal faking one on Roof.

[The Jackal]

If what you're saying is true Danny then CR and DT are our last two demons. Does anyone have a count on what people have committed to today and what's left?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by Danny

It also means that if DT is good then both CR and the Jackal must be bad. I almost buy it as more likely that DT faked one unit on each location instead of CR faking one on Art and then Jackal faking one on Roof.

The problem I have with CR is that he states he has a role with no ability at all. Now, I don't have any cool thing that allows me to do anything at night or learn anything new, but I'm not a completely vanilla villager either. At the start of the game I knew that Render was good and that I could trust him. And from what I've seen in everyone that's been killed thus far, there are no completely vanilla villagers. So for CR to claim that he is vanilla strikes me as extremely odd.

[Danny]

That is true, even in the beginning of the game, I was told I could sense angels and might have more to my mission here, but that I do not know quite what any of that meant.

[DaddyTorgo]

I'm not a demon. I honestly think i'm being setup by CR and Jackal because they realize they're down to an endgame type scenario and they need to setup a villager for a lynch once we've got rid of CR in order to try to get Jackal to his endgame-play

If I was a demon why would I have outed the cultist? Because I knew she wasn't an angel I was pretty damn sure she was a demon or the cultist and I outed her straight-away as soon as I saw that I needed to.

There's also the possibility that Jackal is good and that our other last demon didn't fake their work yesterday guys.

[The Jackal]

Roof 2/2 (Chief Rum x2 1010)
Windows 0/2
Artwork 0/3
Carpentry 1/2 (heinz 1040)

CR 3 (Render x2 1029, heinz 1040)

Yet to act: DT, RD, JE, Danny, Jackal

that look right?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

If I was a demon why would I have outed the cultist? Because I knew she wasn't an angel I was pretty damn sure she was a demon or the cultist and I outed her straight-away as soon as I saw that I needed to.

Actually, you made it clear that you weren't sure if Telle was an angel or not, only that she was lying about being Gabriel. Big difference there.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Danny

Hoops, just give me the first letter to the names of the two remaining wolves.

Would you believe me if I gave you one? I would love to do this if it was at all in the spirit of the rules.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Actually, you made it clear that you weren't sure if Telle was an angel or not, only that she was lying about being Gabriel. Big difference there.

true - and i was very clear to make that point.

but the odds were better that she was demon/cultist than that she was an angel.

true it wasn't a huge difference, but those were the odds

[Danny]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I'm not a demon. I honestly think i'm being setup by CR and Jackal because they realize they're down to an endgame type scenario and they need to setup a villager for a lynch once we've got rid of CR in order to try to get Jackal to his endgame-play

If I was a demon why would I have outed the cultist? Because I knew she wasn't an angel I was pretty damn sure she was a demon or the cultist and I outed her straight-away as soon as I saw that I needed to.

There's also the possibility that Jackal is good and that our other last demon didn't fake their work yesterday guys.

Last demon didn't fake their work? This is impossible unless you are a demon. CR only worked on the artwork and couldn't have faked the carpentry. It's basically either you or CR/Jackal once again assuming Render/Jonathan is good which we have to do.

[Danny]

But is possible they are setting you up DT. We're basically at end game now. One bad lynch and we're done assuming the demons go after villagers.

[DaddyTorgo]

no danny - the demon that isn't CR - if they didn't fake it could be heinze also

[DaddyTorgo]

i'm totally being setup. damn this game.

[Danny]

How could it be Heinze? If you are not a demon, then two demons faked yesterday. CR and the Jackal.

[Danny]

I would like to see you find a statement from the jackal if you can DT.

[DaddyTorgo]

i dunno - you're confusing me. i had a thought that somehow it could be hineze...not sure how i got to that conclusion. maybe i'm wrong.

[DaddyTorgo]

i'll find a statement from the jackel tonight that i can truth-test to get something out of it (maybe his initial check-in if he did one?).

[Danny]

I am also now 100% convinced Render and Jonathan are good. Either DT or CR must be a wolf, which means both Render/Jon can't be lying.

RealDeal, Danny, Jonathan, Render are good.

Two wolves out Jackal, DT, Jeheinz and CR. I doubt Jeheinz is a wolf at this point. It's either CR/Jackal or DT/ CR, Jackal or Heinze. I do find it odd that DT keeps talking about CR setting him up, but seems more inclined to want to vote for Jackal and even possible Jeheinze. Perhaps the wolves are DT/CR?

[DaddyTorgo]

I'll vote for CR danny - I just would rather work on the cathedral if it doesn't need the votes. and i'm not more inclined to vote for the J's than I am for CR.

[Danny]

It is nice that the wolves finally gave us a bone to work with here

[Danny]

FWIW, I find it more likely you are telling the truth DT. I think since you were under the radar a bit compared to others it would have been foolish for you two fake two unites of work in two different places.

[DaddyTorgo]

very nice indeed!

of course it's sort of down to that point where the bones start to stick out of the skin of the starving corpse I guess (nice metaphor hmm?)

[Danny]

I'm going to look at previous days and see if there is any other faked work which can help us here.

[Danny]

Day 4

Walls - Repaired
Roof - 6 shifts
Windows - 7 shifts
Artwork - 12 shifts
Carpentry - Repaired
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Walls - Repaired
Roof - Reapired
Windows - 5 shifts
Artwork - 4 shifts
Carpentry - Repaired

Packer – CR (879), CR (879), KWhit (932), Render (933), DT (934), DT (934)
Chief – Packer (912), Packer (912), JH (915)

Roof – JH (907), Jackal (920), Jackal (920), Tyrith (Roof), Tyrith (Roof), JE (943), JE (943), Danny (944)
Walls – Real (914), Real (914), Real (914)
Windows – Kwhit (932), Danny (944)

Day 4 there were no obvious fakes, but 8 units of work were attempted on the Roof, only 6 were needed. Other than Jackal all other workers on the roof are confirmed good. It's very possible Jackal fakes both or one units of work.

[Danny]

Day 3 tells us nothing.

[Danny]

Day 2

Walls - 2 shifts
Roof - 7 shifts
Windows - 7 shifts
Artwork - 4 shifts
Carpentry - 8 shifts

RealDeal - DaddyTorgo (380), PackerFanatic (397), Telle (403), Telle (403), jeheinze (437), Jonathan (536)
Telle - Danny (442), RealDeal (458), RealDeal (458), RealDeal (458), hoops (495), KWhit (521), Purdue (527), Purdue (527), Alan (538), Alan (538), Render (543)


Walls - Pass(282)
Carpentry - Danny(443), Packer(339), Tyrith(419), Tyrith(419), jackal (469), KWHit (521), Jonathan (564), CR (567)
artwork - Hoops(315), Jackal(318), Daddy T (512), Render (543), CR (567)
Roof – Pass

Walls - 1 shift
Roof - 7 shifts
Windows - 7 shifts
Artwork - Repaired
Carpentry - Repaired

No one faked on the walls, or carpentry, with one extra point being spent on the artwork one of which is a confirmed demon. Considering DT, CR and Jackal are both scattered throughout the artwork/carpentry this tells us nothing. What I do notice is that both CR and Jackal doubled on work, not borthering to get caught up in the realdeal/Telle vote.

[Danny]

Actually lets look at voting from day 3 again.

PF – Jackal (665), Pass (724), Pass (724), KWhit (769), Hoops (810)
Pass – Jackal (665), Packer (691), Render (773)
Heinz – CR (770), CR (770), DT (779)
Hoops – Heniz (687), Danny (729), Danny (729), JE (787), JE (787), DT (779), Alan (799), Alan (799), Real (800), Real (800)

Both CR and Jackal kept their votes off of Hoops and DT and Heinze both put a vote on him giving less possibility to Alan needing to vote on Hoops which the wolves wanted.

[Danny]

I'd say we probably found our wolves in Chief Rum and The Jackal.

[DaddyTorgo]

*note to self* watch out for danny when i'm a wolf - he's good at this

looks like nice work man

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by Danny

Actually lets look at voting from day 3 again.

PF – Jackal (665), Pass (724), Pass (724), KWhit (769), Hoops (810)
Pass – Jackal (665), Packer (691), Render (773)
Heinz – CR (770), CR (770), DT (779)
Hoops – Heniz (687), Danny (729), Danny (729), JE (787), JE (787), DT (779), Alan (799), Alan (799), Real (800), Real (800)

Both CR and Jackal kept their votes off of Hoops and DT and Heinze both put a vote on him giving less possibility to Alan needing to vote on Hoops which the wolves wanted.

I just read back through that day looking for some kind of sign, and I find it really interesting that at the time CR placed his votes on heinz the only other vote there was by hoops. And his two votes made it a three way tie between hoops, PF, and heinz. All this after Alan and RealDeal came out in support of lynching hoops.

Needless to say, I completely agree with lynching CR today. And since it looks like we already have enough votes, I'm going to do some work today.

WORK ON ROOF

WORK ON ROOF

[RealDeal]

VOTE CHIEF RUM
WORK ARTWORK

[DaddyTorgo]

guess i have my choice of walls and artwork?

[DaddyTorgo]

dola windows and artwork

[Danny]

I'll take Windows, you take artwork

[The Jackal]

WORK ON CARPENTRY
WORK ON CARPENTRY

[The Jackal]

We can deal with this case against me tomorrow, if I'm still alive.

[Danny]

Work on Windows
Work on Windows

[DaddyTorgo]

ok

WORK ON ARTWORK
WORK ON ARTWORK

[Danny]

I just didn't want an accidental double up on something. I'm optimistic heading into deadline

[Barkeep49]

And we seem to be at deadline.

[Barkeep49]

Another uneventful day. This time the butcher goes down. The butcher, while not a demon, was a most foul soul. You have no doubt that he could have been a demon, if given the right circumstances.

Mmm. Meat. Whether it comes from a cow, pig, or sheep you don’t care. You love to take an animal, break it down and sell its products to the community. You make a darn fine butcher. Some might say that you get a little too gleeful as you kill the animal, but what do those fools know? Nothing, that’s what.

CR – Render (1029), Render (1029), JH (104), RD (1089)

Roof – CR (1010), CR (1010), JE (1088), JE (1088)
Carpentry – JH (104), Jackal (1093), Jackal (1093)
Artwork – RD (1089), DT (1096), DT (1096)
Windows - Danny (1095), Danny (1095)

Walls - Repaired
Roof - Repaired
Windows - Repaired
Artwork - 2 shifts
Carpentry - Repaired

[Danny]

Wow, well that sucks. DT is a demon clearly now.