Werewolf II - Flight to Hawthorne Manor - Page 22

Jon · 06-30-2005, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang

A sober person spells it Rumpleminze.. a drunk person say rummbellrummints..

As for missing the deadline, sucks but, I think everyone probably has their minds made up.

I was told that I could also call it "Rumpleass." As my girlfriend reminded numerous times, "liquer before beer, nothing's to fear, beer before liquer, never been sicker"

I should take that to heart. As for missing the deadline, if I had made it home, I would have likely asked to see myself.

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 12:51 PM

I suspected, it wouldn't turn out well for me if Jon ended up not being the wolf. As I said, I know it looks bad on my part to take the initiative and vote early, but I justified my reasons for voting for Jon when I did it and took that chance. Unlike those of us who just piled on to keep themselves safe.

Use your heads and look at who else voted against Jon yesterday and look at their past voting records. Since Jon is almost certain to be eaten tonight, if you guys lynch me, we will take a big step backwards after getting Lathum right yesterday.

I've been outspoken and taken some chances in the game, but don't kill me because I got a big one wrong. Look at the entire game pattern before deciding. I vote ntndeacon.

Mustang · 06-30-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

His eaten/eatin comment was supposed to be weak. It was probably to get everyone thinking about why he would make such a weak comment and a vote so early in the day. Combine that with his overuse of words like "perceive" and "focus" in that post, and you get a bunch of subtle hints. Had more people caught on to this, he might have stayed hidden.

Good point. . I was definitely trying to figure out the reason why he would do that at that point he was still a suspect though along with Lathum in my eyes.

But, why stop the suspense.

Vote Swaggs

Now it's down to 2 other choices. Good timing for a non-thinker.... With tomorrow being end of month processing for our business, I'm usually extremely busy on the 1st business day of the month.

KWhit · 06-30-2005, 01:13 PM

Okay. I've re-read the posts from last night, and I tend to agree with you all about Swaggs. I don't like his "unvote Jon while I think about things" and then coming back and voting for him anyway.

It looks like a ploy to me. But who knows? I could be wrong yet again.

I Vote Swaggs

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 01:21 PM

Less sure on this one, but self preservation and all.

Unvote ntndeacon

Vote KWhitt

Jon · 06-30-2005, 01:27 PM

This may be my last vote, so .....

Vote Swaggs

Mustang · 06-30-2005, 01:33 PM

Votes

Swaggs - 5
KWhit - 2

I got a' lovely piece o' rope for ya here Swaggs..

KWhit · 06-30-2005, 01:35 PM

Yeah, but unfortunately for me, the voting's not over yet.

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Votes

Swaggs - 5
KWhit - 2

I got a' lovely piece o' rope for ya here Swaggs..

No need to be cruel and unusual about it.

Mustang · 06-30-2005, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

No need to be cruel and unusual about it.

No, cruel and unusual would be barbed wire...

Desnudo · 06-30-2005, 01:53 PM

A repost of my thoughts, just in case some people didn't read back that far.

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Just in case I get eaten tonight here's a brief run down of who I think is a wolf:

Swaggs - He was on my suspect list before tonight's vote and the vote simply confirmed it. The very weird switch-unswitch move seemed contrived and meant to imply indecision, when I'm sure his decision was made well in advance. Also commented on stressing about being eaten, just like Lathum. I think it's a ruse. None of the villagers seem to comment about that aspect, since it's a fact of life for them.

KWhit - Jumped to defend Lathum from Jon and also tried to deflect attention onto NTNDeacon, all in the same post. Also previously tried to indict deacon. His attention on deacon is the reason why I don't think deacon is a wolf.

I really think it might just be these two remaining, unless one of the non-voters is also a wolf. Order of viewing, lynching for me would go Swaggs then KWhit.

Anyone who voted for Lathum is in the clear in my mind. The majority, maybe all, of us who voted were online when voting closed. It would have been very easy to switch votes when it was obvious that Lathum was going to lose. There was no benefit to the wolves even pretending to lynch one of their own. There was no point where the vote was not going to be close. They get Jon and it's game over pretty much.

The wolves got caught with their pants down. Therefore, see my post above.

I vote Swaggs

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

A repost of my thoughts, just in case some people didn't read back that far.

Anyone who voted for Lathum is in the clear in my mind. The majority, maybe all, of us who voted were online when voting closed. It would have been very easy to switch votes when it was obvious that Lathum was going to lose. There was no benefit to the wolves even pretending to lynch one of their own. There was no point where the vote was not going to be close. They get Jon and it's game over pretty much.

The wolves got caught with their pants down. Therefore, see my post above.

I vote Swaggs

In my defense, I was not there when voting closed. I knew I would be out at 8:00, so I voted early.

Desnudo · 06-30-2005, 02:01 PM

I was talking about people who could have switched from Lathum to Jon to save his hide, wolfy. We'll give you a nice rare steak for your last meal, at least take solice in that.

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

I was talking about people who could have switched from Lathum to Jon to save his hide, wolfy. We'll give you a nice rare steak for your last meal, at least take solice in that.

You guys are brutal.

Desnudo · 06-30-2005, 02:09 PM

Well, you've been eating our friends.

KevinNU7 · 06-30-2005, 02:13 PM

Swaggs is doing a poor job of defending himself

Unvote KWhit
I vote Swaggs

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 02:18 PM

I can't believe that you guys are stringing me up for taking initiative yesterday. I knew I would be out for dinner and said so. I could have bowed out and not made any enemies, like Kevin, but I went with my best guess.

Please, please look at ntndeacon and KWhit. ntndeacon came in at the last second and voted for Jon without any explanation at all and both he and KWhit have slid under the radar and let Lathum be the "loud" one of the group.

If I die today and Jon dies tonight, we'll still have the brutal wolf there to ensure that another of us goes down when we pick him. Lynching me is a bad move.

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinNU7

Swaggs is doing a poor job of defending himself

Unvote KWhit
I vote Swaggs

You've done a very nice job of flying under the radar and not doing anything to draw attention to yourself. I should have followed your lead and been quiet and not voted yesterday.

KWhit · 06-30-2005, 02:21 PM

I didn't jump up to defend Lathum. I said that it was an illogical reason to lynch somebody based upon a misspelled word. I was trying to use some logic and common sense! And my argument for Lathum made a hell of a lot more sense than Jon's argument against him (that it was a freudian slip, please!). When I first defended Lathum, nobody thought that Jon was the seer. Nobody.

It was only after that (and after he had a couple of votes), that Jon dropped his big hint that he was the seer. I thought that he was doing it as a ploy to save his werewolf hide. I was wrong, obviously. But I'm no werewolf.

KevinNU7 · 06-30-2005, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

You've done a very nice job of flying under the radar and not doing anything to draw attention to yourself. I should have followed your lead and been quiet and not voted yesterday.

If you want to work 7-4 and move in with your future mother-in-law while planning a wedding in 2 months with a baby on the way be my guest.

Mustang · 06-30-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinNU7

move in with your future mother-in-law

Is she hot though??

Sorry... slow day in this thread.

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

I didn't jump up to defend Lathum. I said that it was an illogical reason to lynch somebody based upon a misspelled word. I was trying to use some logic and common sense! And my argument for Lathum made a hell of a lot more sense than Jon's argument against him (that it was a freudian slip, please!). When I first defended Lathum, nobody thought that Jon was the seer. Nobody.

It was only after that (and after he had a couple of votes), that Jon dropped his big hint that he was the seer. I thought that he was doing it as a ploy to save his werewolf hide. I was wrong, obviously. But I'm no werewolf.

Weak defense. You've been under the radar and piling on the entire time.

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinNU7

If you want to work 7-4 and move in with your future mother-in-law while planning a wedding in 2 months with a baby on the way be my guest.

I'm not going to touch that one.

I'm just trying to save my ass.

KevinNU7 · 06-30-2005, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

Is she hot though??

Sorry... slow day in this thread.

Nope

She's one of those annoying old ladies that even her children don't like. Fortunetly for us her house is a two family so we are able to avoid her a good amount of the time.

Desnudo · 06-30-2005, 02:29 PM

Like I said before, the people who voted for Lathum are in the clear. The voting went 5-4, so any one vote could have changed the outcome, and ended the game for all intents. Since Nequa is confirmed not to be a wolf, that leaves the following four by my count:

Swaggs, KWhit, Deacon, Kevin

I think it's safe to assume that at least 2 out of the 4 are wolves, so it's going to take some pretty serious reasoning for me to even consider changing my mind. I've already outlined my reasoning.

KWhit · 06-30-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Weak defense. You've been under the radar and piling on the entire time.

Oh okay.

KevinNU7 · 06-30-2005, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Like I said before, the people who voted for Lathum are in the clear. The voting went 5-4, so any one vote could have changed the outcome, and ended the game for all intents. Since Nequa is confirmed not to be a wolf, that leaves the following four by my count:

Swaggs, KWhit, Deacon, Kevin

I think it's safe to assume that at least 2 out of the 4 are wolves, so it's going to take some pretty serious reasoning for me to even consider changing my mind. I've already outlined my reasoning.

I agree. Please keep in mind that I was questions Lathum's role in the game since the beginning. Saying the peregrine would probably make Lathum a werwolf because people had said they wouldn't vote for him at the begining. Would I say something like that if I too were a werewolf? Doubtful. If I were around eysterday I would have vote for him, not that anyone will believe me

Peregrine · 06-30-2005, 02:44 PM

Back from the movie. I count 7 votes to 1 for Swaggs, with Airhog and Ntndeacon not voting yet.

KevinNU7 · 06-30-2005, 02:49 PM

I think if we get all 10 people to vote we should end it early. Maybe give a 1 hour buffer for people to change their mind.

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Like I said before, the people who voted for Lathum are in the clear. The voting went 5-4, so any one vote could have changed the outcome, and ended the game for all intents. Since Nequa is confirmed not to be a wolf, that leaves the following four by my count:

Swaggs, KWhit, Deacon, Kevin

I think it's safe to assume that at least 2 out of the 4 are wolves, so it's going to take some pretty serious reasoning for me to even consider changing my mind. I've already outlined my reasoning.

I agree with you. In addition, I know I'm not a wolf (but all four of us can say that). I wish I wasn't on the list, but I've been playing the numbers this whole time, too, so I can see voting for me.

I've put up my best defense without much success. I wish I hadn't spoken up yesterday and had just fallen in line after more votes had been cast.

Good luck guys. I think you are on the right trail overall...I just wish I didn't look so guilty right now.

KWhit · 06-30-2005, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

Like I said before, the people who voted for Lathum are in the clear. The voting went 5-4, so any one vote could have changed the outcome, and ended the game for all intents.

But remember the 4th vote for Jon came exactly at 8:00.

That means something. I'm not sure what yet, but it's just too coincidental.

Desnudo · 06-30-2005, 02:53 PM

That maybe deacon and you are both wolves?

KevinNU7 · 06-30-2005, 02:54 PM

he didn't want to be grouped with the non-voters. He probably hadn't checked the official count and he hoped that his vote would tie everything up

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

That maybe deacon and you are both wolves?

That's what I've been trying to say!!!

KWhit · 06-30-2005, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinNU7

he didn't want to be grouped with the non-voters. He probably hadn't checked the official count and he hoped that his vote would tie everything up

Or there was another wolf who was supposed to vote last second like he did.

Or a Lathum-voting wolf was going to switch his vote and didn't for some reason.

It's just too coincidental for me.

It seems like a plan that went astray.

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Or there was another wolf who was supposed to vote last second like he did.

Or a Lathum-voting wolf was going to switch his vote and didn't for some reason.

It's just too coincidental for me.

It seems like a plan that went astray.

Sounds like the Johnnie Cochran Werewolf Defense to me.

KevinNU7 · 06-30-2005, 03:04 PM

IMO there are 4 wolves in the game. Lathum, KWhit, SWaggs and deacon are my best bets. I think we started with two normals and a Brutal and a Cursed was added along the way. With that said, I am also worried about some of Jon humans as one of them could be a turned Cursed

Desnudo · 06-30-2005, 03:16 PM

Or sometimes the simplest solution is the right one.

KevinNU7 · 06-30-2005, 03:28 PM

Ok, heading out for the day. Will be back on in the morning

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinNU7

Ok, heading out for the day. Will be back on in the morning

Have a nice dinner.

ntndeacon · 06-30-2005, 04:23 PM

I vote Swaggs

Mustang · 06-30-2005, 04:25 PM

All we need is Airhog to post..

Anyone changing their minds? Bueller... Bueller..

ntndeacon · 06-30-2005, 04:27 PM

Kevin, before last night the only one of the viewed people that could be cursed was Nequa. I think like others, Jon was targeted last night. So that would mean that the cursed was not viewed ever.

Jon · 06-30-2005, 04:28 PM

A little food for thought to our wolf friends:

I'm still pretty pickled from last night, so you may want to wait a day or three to eat me, if that's what you're planning on doing. You see, studies show that if you eat someone who's chock full of the alcohol, it may become more difficult to revert back to human form....

Just wanted to let you know.

ntndeacon · 06-30-2005, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

But remember the 4th vote for Jon came exactly at 8:00.

That means something. I'm not sure what yet, but it's just too coincidental.

It means a couple of things. If you are going to a movie, vote before you go. Secondly, Never, Ever vote efore reading everything that happened while you were gone. And thirdly that Tom Cruise still sucks as an actor.

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 04:53 PM

and fourth, stick with your werewolf buddies.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-30-2005, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon

A little food for thought to our wolf friends:

I'm still pretty pickled from last night, so you may want to wait a day or three to eat me, if that's what you're planning on doing. You see, studies show that if you eat someone who's chock full of the alcohol, it may become more difficult to revert back to human form....

Just wanted to let you know.

This sounds like sage advice to me.

Desnudo · 06-30-2005, 05:25 PM

I think Nequa is actually the seer.

Eaglesfan27 · 06-30-2005, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desnudo

I think Nequa is actually the seer.

It's now Barkeep.

Swaggs · 06-30-2005, 05:27 PM

Death Row sucks.

Especially when people want to push your execution deadline up.

View Poll Results: I think we can agree Mustang is the MVP, who did the second best job?
Airhog - Crazy Duke postings were funny, and his voting graphs were helpful	11	35.48%
KevinNU7 - Survived to the end and had some good analysis	2	6.45%
Qwikshot - Threw everyone off as the Cultist, his list was key even after he died!	5	16.13%
Desnudo - Good Bodyguard work and survived despite a lot of suspicion at times	13	41.94%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

06-30-2005, 12:51 PM	#1052
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I suspected, it wouldn't turn out well for me if Jon ended up not being the wolf. As I said, I know it looks bad on my part to take the initiative and vote early, but I justified my reasons for voting for Jon when I did it and took that chance. Unlike those of us who just piled on to keep themselves safe. Use your heads and look at who else voted against Jon yesterday and look at their past voting records. Since Jon is almost certain to be eaten tonight, if you guys lynch me, we will take a big step backwards after getting Lathum right yesterday. I've been outspoken and taken some chances in the game, but don't kill me because I got a big one wrong. Look at the entire game pattern before deciding. I vote ntndeacon. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

06-30-2005, 01:21 PM	#1055
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Less sure on this one, but self preservation and all. Unvote ntndeacon Vote KWhitt __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

06-30-2005, 01:27 PM	#1056
Jon High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000	This may be my last vote, so ..... Vote Swaggs Last edited by Jon : 06-30-2005 at 01:28 PM.

06-30-2005, 01:33 PM	#1057
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	Votes Swaggs - 5 KWhit - 2 I got a' lovely piece o' rope for ya here Swaggs.. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

06-30-2005, 01:13 PM	#1054
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Okay. I've re-read the posts from last night, and I tend to agree with you all about Swaggs. I don't like his "unvote Jon while I think about things" and then coming back and voting for him anyway. It looks like a ploy to me. But who knows? I could be wrong yet again. I Vote Swaggs

06-30-2005, 01:35 PM	#1058
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Yeah, but unfortunately for me, the voting's not over yet.

06-30-2005, 02:01 PM	#1063
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	I was talking about people who could have switched from Lathum to Jon to save his hide, wolfy. We'll give you a nice rare steak for your last meal, at least take solice in that.

06-30-2005, 02:09 PM	#1065
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Well, you've been eating our friends.

06-30-2005, 02:13 PM	#1066
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	Swaggs is doing a poor job of defending himself Unvote KWhit I vote Swaggs __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347) Last edited by KevinNU7 : 06-30-2005 at 02:14 PM.

06-30-2005, 02:18 PM	#1067
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I can't believe that you guys are stringing me up for taking initiative yesterday. I knew I would be out for dinner and said so. I could have bowed out and not made any enemies, like Kevin, but I went with my best guess. Please, please look at ntndeacon and KWhit. ntndeacon came in at the last second and voted for Jon without any explanation at all and both he and KWhit have slid under the radar and let Lathum be the "loud" one of the group. If I die today and Jon dies tonight, we'll still have the brutal wolf there to ensure that another of us goes down when we pick him. Lynching me is a bad move. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

06-30-2005, 02:21 PM	#1069
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I didn't jump up to defend Lathum. I said that it was an illogical reason to lynch somebody based upon a misspelled word. I was trying to use some logic and common sense! And my argument for Lathum made a hell of a lot more sense than Jon's argument against him (that it was a freudian slip, please!). When I first defended Lathum, nobody thought that Jon was the seer. Nobody. It was only after that (and after he had a couple of votes), that Jon dropped his big hint that he was the seer. I thought that he was doing it as a ploy to save his werewolf hide. I was wrong, obviously. But I'm no werewolf.

06-30-2005, 02:29 PM	#1075
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Like I said before, the people who voted for Lathum are in the clear. The voting went 5-4, so any one vote could have changed the outcome, and ended the game for all intents. Since Nequa is confirmed not to be a wolf, that leaves the following four by my count: Swaggs, KWhit, Deacon, Kevin I think it's safe to assume that at least 2 out of the 4 are wolves, so it's going to take some pretty serious reasoning for me to even consider changing my mind. I've already outlined my reasoning.

06-30-2005, 02:44 PM	#1078
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	Back from the movie. I count 7 votes to 1 for Swaggs, with Airhog and Ntndeacon not voting yet.

06-30-2005, 02:49 PM	#1079
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	I think if we get all 10 people to vote we should end it early. Maybe give a 1 hour buffer for people to change their mind. __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

06-30-2005, 02:53 PM	#1082
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	That maybe deacon and you are both wolves?

06-30-2005, 02:54 PM	#1083
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	he didn't want to be grouped with the non-voters. He probably hadn't checked the official count and he hoped that his vote would tie everything up __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

06-30-2005, 03:04 PM	#1087
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	IMO there are 4 wolves in the game. Lathum, KWhit, SWaggs and deacon are my best bets. I think we started with two normals and a Brutal and a Cursed was added along the way. With that said, I am also worried about some of Jon humans as one of them could be a turned Cursed __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

06-30-2005, 03:16 PM	#1088
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	Or sometimes the simplest solution is the right one.

06-30-2005, 03:28 PM	#1089
KevinNU7 College Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Beantown	Ok, heading out for the day. Will be back on in the morning __________________ Boston Bashers - III.14 - (8347)

06-30-2005, 04:23 PM	#1091
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I vote Swaggs

06-30-2005, 04:25 PM	#1092
Mustang Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wisconsin	All we need is Airhog to post.. Anyone changing their minds? Bueller... Bueller.. __________________ You, you will regret what you have done this day. I will make you regret ever being born. Your going to wish you never left your mothers womb, where it was warm and safe... and wet. i am going to show you pain you never knew existed, you are going to see a whole new spectrum of pain, like a Rainboooow. But! This rainbow is not just like any other rainbow, its...

06-30-2005, 04:27 PM	#1093
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Kevin, before last night the only one of the viewed people that could be cursed was Nequa. I think like others, Jon was targeted last night. So that would mean that the cursed was not viewed ever.

06-30-2005, 04:28 PM	#1094
Jon High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000	A little food for thought to our wolf friends: I'm still pretty pickled from last night, so you may want to wait a day or three to eat me, if that's what you're planning on doing. You see, studies show that if you eat someone who's chock full of the alcohol, it may become more difficult to revert back to human form.... Just wanted to let you know. Last edited by Jon : 06-30-2005 at 04:29 PM.

06-30-2005, 04:53 PM	#1096
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	and fourth, stick with your werewolf buddies. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

06-30-2005, 05:25 PM	#1098
Desnudo Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Here and There	I think Nequa is actually the seer.

06-30-2005, 05:27 PM	#1100
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Death Row sucks. Especially when people want to push your execution deadline up. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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