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Old 04-20-2009, 09:35 PM   #1051
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To get past my last couple of duels I watched the tape. I'd usually get hit once or twice for 15-25 points apiece, while I'd hit the other guy maybe once for two points.

What I had to do was watch which rounds I was getting hit in and where I got hit, and go into the Duels screen and change which way my character leaned in each round. At the same time I'd see where I missed and change where I aimed each round. At least at low levels, the computer doesn't change the dueling tendencies for an opponent, so I was eventually able to come up with a pattern where I got away clean and hit him for a few points, winning the duel.
I didn't even know you could change that. How does one do this
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:37 PM   #1052
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Click the Dueling button while in the main screen, bottom of the left column. Should pull up a screen with lots of red and green circles on your pictures. When you get hit in the dueling replay (or make a hit), it'll show location on the little orange circle that signifies a hit.

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Old 04-20-2009, 09:42 PM   #1053
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Yep, just hit that aforementioned brick wall at 8. No more quests I can do yet, grindin' time.


just hit a similar wall in world 7 but at Level 32. Two quest I can take. One is "lots of wood" where I need to cut trees in order to bring 24 planks of wood. There's only so much wood cutting you can do in a row though. The other quest is a simple "do this for 4 hours" except the "this" is "building windmills". According to West Stats, I'm currently -39 at building windmills, heh...

I'm sitting at 483/1099 at level 32. Guess I'll do lots of railroad station building to try and level up a bit (47% exp with 71 net labor points)...

See, still tons of stuff to think about even at a much higher level...

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Old 04-20-2009, 09:59 PM   #1054
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:21 PM   #1055
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:26 PM   #1056
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Town to watch: the Evil Dead 3961 points, 1 member he is banned


interesting, only 2.5 hours away from El Dolado for me and my Pony. I'm sure the four Eagles towns have an eye on it too though...

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Old 04-20-2009, 10:46 PM   #1057
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Just a thought...FM, do you mind editing your first post to include some of the sites you use to track your stats, inventory, the job calculator, etc...or else add them to the google apps page you have up? I'm sure some of the other noobs would appreciate it and it may eliminate some of the repetitive posts you and some of the more experienced Westerners keep re-posting.

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Old 04-21-2009, 12:19 AM   #1058
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Dayum. Just finished up my first turkey hunting trip. Got 28 of my 110 points needed for lvl 10 in one trip. Also got a Blue Poncho that gives +3 Dodging and +4 aim and sells for 40 bucks. Sweet.
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Old 04-21-2009, 02:00 AM   #1059
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Ding, ding...level 7.

Also, a builder I will not be. I suppose I'll just have to contribute in other ways.
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Old 04-21-2009, 05:08 AM   #1060
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Just a thought...FM, do you mind editing your first post to include some of the sites you use to track your stats, inventory, the job calculator, etc...or else add them to the google apps page you have up? I'm sure some of the other noobs would appreciate it and it may eliminate some of the repetitive posts you and some of the more experienced Westerners keep re-posting.

yeah, thought about that, and also wanted to do a couple of tutorial/FAQ type pages for the google website but just ran out of time. I'll try to find some time to edit the first post tonight. Good idea.

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Old 04-21-2009, 05:13 AM   #1061
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:41 AM   #1062
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In around 4 hours i am going to be ready for a na and will have some coin to donate. Can I get an invite to either town please...especially if you can spare room for a sleeper. BTW Ill be level 13 in an hour A mix bag of skills and not real sure where I am heading, I need to pick a character class and run with it.
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Old 04-21-2009, 06:47 AM   #1063
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In around 4 hours i am going to be ready for a na and will have some coin to donate. Can I get an invite to either town please...especially if you can spare room for a sleeper. BTW Ill be level 13 in an hour A mix bag of skills and not real sure where I am heading, I need to pick a character class and run with it.

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Old 04-21-2009, 08:03 AM   #1064
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:16 AM   #1065
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Guys, I'm thinking about spending the $8 bucks or so to get some premium credits for all 4 areas. I'm currently at level 6 (I just started on Sunday). Do you think spending the money will be worth it? I'm eager to move up quickly.
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:21 AM   #1066
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Guys, I'm thinking about spending the $8 bucks or so to get some premium credits for all 4 areas. I'm currently at level 6 (I just started on Sunday). Do you think spending the money will be worth it? I'm eager to move up quickly.


I tend to not spend money in these type of games, so haven't spent any here either. My suggestion though is if you decide you do want to spend money here, I don't think level 6 is the time to do it. Level 6 was fairly easy to level up during.

I would personally wait until you hit one of the ruts where you can't go further with quests very fast any longer and then decide if you want to there. It might help you bridge that gap of levels faster than I had to struggle through it. (I'm close to level 10 finally today after finding a lucky indian necklace last night that allows me to now continue with the quests
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:24 AM   #1067
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Guys, I'm thinking about spending the $8 bucks or so to get some premium credits for all 4 areas. I'm currently at level 6 (I just started on Sunday). Do you think spending the money will be worth it? I'm eager to move up quickly.

I think the big plus of the nuggets is the extra energy and increased rate. If you can be online during the day at various points to update your queue, the 4 at a time might not matter so much.

I can pretty much work on different tasks from 8 AM to Midnight and then sleep it off and repeat. I went from level 6 to 12 in a matter of days working on tasks with XP %'s in the range of 15-25 so, while work = XP, it is essential that you track your jobs and aim for that next higher job XP % so you aren't stuck at the 4% ones.
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:28 AM   #1068
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we had some discussion about the nuggets back in page 18 of the thread:
The West (a western themed browser based RPG) - Page 18 - Front Office Football Central

start with that post and read down for some thoughts about the nuggets.

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Old 04-21-2009, 09:03 AM   #1069
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:14 AM   #1070
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we had some discussion about the nuggets back in page 18 of the thread:
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start with that post and read down for some thoughts about the nuggets.

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Thanks for the info, and sorry again for asking a redundant question!

For the $8 (US), I think I'll give these a shot. If they don't prove to be too helpful after 2 weeks, I won't get them again.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:58 AM   #1071
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Just about maxed on coin, can I get an invite to Troutville to donate please


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Old 04-21-2009, 10:04 AM   #1072
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Thanks for the info, and sorry again for asking a redundant question!

no problem at all, it'll be added to my list of FAQ...

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Old 04-21-2009, 10:06 AM   #1073
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Uhh.. so my current quest is to buy a donkey.. which costs $1000 ... How much do they cost for town members? That feels a little cost prohibitive
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:07 AM   #1074
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Oh, I see from the google link.. $250 is that right?

That is not nearly as bad.
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:09 AM   #1075
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Town members get discounts on gear??
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:09 AM   #1076
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That's correct. $250. I'll be buying mine when I get home from work tonight.
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:10 AM   #1077
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Do you get better prices when you sell something, too?
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:13 AM   #1078
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Uhh.. so my current quest is to buy a donkey.. which costs $1000 ... How much do they cost for town members? That feels a little cost prohibitive

the ratio of price for outsider to town member is 4 to 1, so yeah donkey is $1000 for outsiders, $250 for town members. Goes the same for every item in every shop.

No special selling price on items you sell to the shop though...

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Old 04-21-2009, 10:16 AM   #1079
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:20 AM   #1080
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Not quite sure what to build next...

I think its a toss up between Town Hall, Tailor and General Store.
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:25 AM   #1081
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If we've got spots to spare, can Dat King get an invitation to one of the towns please? I won't be able to use it until this evening, but as soon as I get home I should have enough cash to buy my donkey (and the XP from completing that quest will finally push me to level 10 as well).
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:27 AM   #1082
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the ratio of price for outsider to town member is 4 to 1, so yeah donkey is $1000 for outsiders, $250 for town members. Goes the same for every item in every shop.

No special selling price on items you sell to the shop though...

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Nice, good to know. Glad I've been cheap and not spent any money yet...LOL!!! My wife would be proud of me for not spending my fake money in my online Western computer game!!!
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:27 AM   #1083
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If we've got spots to spare, can Dat King get an invitation to one of the towns please? I won't be able to use it until this evening, but as soon as I get home I should have enough cash to buy my donkey (and the XP from completing that quest will finally push me to level 10 as well).

Sounds like you and I are on the same pace almost completely.
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:30 AM   #1084
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Just got to level 11 and still can't hunt those dang turkeys. I think it's going to be a grind through this level.
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:32 AM   #1085
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Not quite sure what to build next...

I think its a toss up between Town Hall, Tailor and General Store.

Id' take general store out of the equation. Really not much worth it in level 2. Town hall, now that we've got some thing goings in all town, might be a good idea, since we still have plenty of other level of buildings to build, and one level of Town hall will take 5 off the difficulty, so a long term investment. Tailor level 3 can see some nice items, so definitely on the radar for very soon.

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Old 04-21-2009, 10:33 AM   #1086
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Nice, good to know. Glad I've been cheap and not spent any money yet...LOL!!! My wife would be proud of me for not spending my fake money in my online Western computer game!!!


then you'll go and splurge that $8 of real money to get nuggets in order to earn more and more of that fake money.

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Old 04-21-2009, 10:34 AM   #1087
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If we've got spots to spare, can Dat King get an invitation to one of the towns please? I won't be able to use it until this evening, but as soon as I get home I should have enough cash to buy my donkey (and the XP from completing that quest will finally push me to level 10 as well).


I am in need of a temp invite to either place, I have some cash to donate, and some sales to make, and rest for a bit. Any available?
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:34 AM   #1088
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Sounds like you and I are on the same pace almost completely.

What do you plan on selecting for your character class? I figure I'll go with Soldier. I'm not much for min/maxing, and I'll give up making maximum cash and experience in order to be able to shoot somebody, when somebody needs shootin'.
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:35 AM   #1089
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then you'll go and splurge that $8 of real money to get nuggets in order to earn more and more of that fake money.

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Old 04-21-2009, 10:36 AM   #1090
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What do you plan on selecting for your character class? I figure I'll go with Soldier. I'm not much for min/maxing, and I'll give up making maximum cash and experience in order to be able to shoot somebody, when somebody needs shootin'.


Been planning on going trader. It seems like there are mainly 4 different tasks in this game (building things, shooting people, making money and gaining xp) with an additional two (questing and finding stuff) that complement the previous four.

Since many people already are planning on shooting people or building stuff, and only so much xp to get, that left me with making money I suppose
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:37 AM   #1091
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:06 AM   #1092
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Census update: I'm up to level 14 with 160 construction LP after the 5% bonus.

I'm going to finish off the gunsmith and then we can decide what the next building will be. I would be leaning toward the hotel to level 2, but I saw the discussion above on the town hall. I could easily be talked into that as well.
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:08 AM   #1093
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then you'll go and splurge that $8 of real money to get nuggets in order to earn more and more of that fake money.

FM

Ugh, do you really have to put it like that after I just put down the $8

In any event, I hope to join you guys soon. I should make significant progress over the next couple of days with these aides
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:09 AM   #1094
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Census update: I'm up to level 14 with 160 construction LP after the 5% bonus.

I'm going to finish off the gunsmith and then we can decide what the next building will be. I would be leaning toward the hotel to level 2, but I saw the discussion above on the town hall. I could easily be talked into that as well.

mentioned it before, hotel level 2 gives 72 rest point over 8 hours, instead of the usual 64, so 12.5% increase, but will cost $40 instead of $10 for non members of the town.

IMO, the hotel and bank are buildings we should think about upgrading only when we have the residences high enough that everybody who wants to stay and live in the town can. This is not really the case at the moment...

The town hall is a long term investment, as I said before, and the tailor could have benefits for visitors as well as regular town members.
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:17 AM   #1095
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mentioned it before, hotel level 2 gives 72 rest point over 8 hours, instead of the usual 64, so 12.5% increase, but will cost $40 instead of $10 for non members of the town.

IMO, the hotel and bank are buildings we should think about upgrading only when we have the residences high enough that everybody who wants to stay and live in the town can. This is not really the case at the moment...

The town hall is a long term investment, as I said before, and the tailor could have benefits for visitors as well as regular town members.

You are right, I forgot about the fact that our temp-residents don't get free hotel stays before they leave town. Upgrading the hotels would only help the builders at the moment. The town hall will require 200 points at a difficulty of 30. The tailor will require 300 points at a difficulty of 45. What say we knock out the town hall first since that should be fairly quick?
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:17 AM   #1096
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mentioned it before, hotel level 2 gives 72 rest point over 8 hours, instead of the usual 64, so 12.5% increase, but will cost $40 instead of $10 for non members of the town.

But we shouldn't ever have any FOFC non-residents paying to stay in our hotels anyway should we? I mean, at least not except on the odd occasions when we have someone needing to sleep and there's nobody around to give them an invitation. Best I've been able to tell that isn't happening very often so far. Plus any adventurer class that are non-residents are staying in Level 2 hotels for free anyway, so that's a portion of the FOFC population that it wouldn't be an issue for regardless.

My point here isn't really to push for a level two hotel, it's really just to make the point that FOFC'ers should try to avoid paying/paying full price for anything in our towns when it can be avoided.

edit to add: I think some of our FOFC'ers haven't picked up on the fact that El Dolado (and I think Troutville now) are at residence level two, meaning we've got more slots available than before. Still not enough for every player to maintain permanent residency but enough that I don't see a big problem with some players sleeping as members, especially not if they're confident that they'll be back around to withdraw from the town when they wake up (in order to free a spot for someone else to sleep).
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:26 AM   #1097
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Would it be possible for me to get a spot in El Dolado to sleep for the afternoon? I'd like to save the money if I can - but not a big deal if I can't
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:27 AM   #1098
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edit to add: I think some of our FOFC'ers haven't picked up on the fact that El Dolado (and I think Troutville now) are at residence level two, meaning we've got more slots available than before. Still not enough for every player to maintain permanent residency but enough that I don't see a big problem with some players sleeping as members, especially not if they're confident that they'll be back around to withdraw from the town when they wake up (in order to free a spot for someone else to sleep).

I've been trying to not abuse the towns to a point of hurting the town by eating up an extra slot, so I've actually been paying for the hotel each night. If this is the case that we can do that then I will start, but I'm worried that most people have the same sleep schedule as me (ie: do the work during the day and put the character to sleep at night when I really go to bed). It might make the night time town residency hard to come by perhaps?
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Old 04-21-2009, 11:34 AM   #1099
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Originally Posted by PackerFanatic View Post
Okay, really quick and dumb question that I know I have seen in the thread (but can't find) - how the heck do I donate money?

- get an invite to the town
- accept said invite
- travel to town (click the signpost on the town page, then walk to town)
- once in town, close the town banner on the left
- click on bank
- donate money to the treasury on the right side of the bank page.

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Old 04-21-2009, 11:34 AM   #1100
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dola, the above post might have seemed completely out of the blue, but I wanted to bonify Cu Tiger's original answer to Packerfanatic's question in order to link to it in the first post of the thread.

And speaking of which, go take a look at that first post. I added a bunch of links to useful posts hidden within the thread as well as links to the two tools people are using. If you remember an old post (or see a future one) that you think should be included in that first post in order to make the game as newbie friendly as possible, let me know and I'll include a link to it...

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