Werewolf CXL - The Dark Knight Returns - GAME OVER - Page 23

mauchow · 10-20-2011, 10:45 PM

Okay, just read through everything from this morning.

I'm really sorry I didn't get a chance to pay more attention to deadline last night - I was in a meeting right up until 9:00 and then my phone started to die so I had to run to my room and charge it up while catching up in the thread without seeing what happened all day yesterday. I revealed without really knowing what the tally was; all I knew was that I was probably a vote away from being out..so I would have revealed regardless.

As for tonight's scan - I am going to try letting everyone know about before I hit the sack here.

Commo_Soldier · 10-20-2011, 10:52 PM

Interesting that Chief has came on here, left, then came back only to leave again without saying hi or anything.

The Jackal · 10-20-2011, 10:56 PM

Sorry I wasn't able to make it back to switch from Tyrith, but damn that ended up being a good result. Dinner party went long because dinner prep went long.. and well it's almost night deadline time so we'll see what happens.

Chief Rum · 10-20-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Interesting that Chief has came on here, left, then came back only to leave again without saying hi or anything.

First off, that's pretty metagamey. Might wanna ease up on that.

Second, what's there to say at this point? Y'all seem set in your ways. You and Danny didn't even figure out I had voted for two hours, putting me down as a no vote, even though I was right on your list above with a vote.

Commo_Soldier · 10-20-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

First off, that's pretty metagamey. Might wanna ease up on that.

Second, what's there to say at this point? Y'all seem set in your ways. You and Danny didn't even figure out I had voted for two hours, putting me down as a no vote, even though I was right on your list above with a vote.

I realized it after I posted it within a few minutes, but Danny kept putting up votes before I could get to them. As for my thing it is meta-gamey, but wanted to ensure we knew who all came on after my reveal, including Lathum. That way if I'm NKed we know who it could have been.

mauchow · 10-20-2011, 11:06 PM

I kind of wish I didn't scan cr tonight as it seems some were going after him regardless of my scan. I'll be happy though if he comes back super villain.

Commo_Soldier · 10-20-2011, 11:08 PM

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I kind of wish I didn't scan cr tonight as it seems some were going after him regardless of my scan. I'll be happy though if he comes back super villain.

I don't know if you go there if he comes back negative for being a supervillan though, so it is an important scan.

mauchow · 10-20-2011, 11:08 PM

I am going to bed. I'll post it first thing in the morning when Ryan wakes up around 5.. Ryan being my baby.

Autumn · 10-20-2011, 11:08 PM

Writing up night actions. It will be a little bit.

CrimsonFox · 10-20-2011, 11:09 PM

That can't be good...

Commo_Soldier · 10-20-2011, 11:10 PM

Kinda goes without saying, but if Chief comes back as a supervillian, our seers/forensics/BG may not want to be oh him if possible, but certainly Mau.

Danny · 10-20-2011, 11:20 PM

Hopefully I am still alive

Danny · 10-20-2011, 11:21 PM

As are Rachel and Batman.

Autumn · 10-20-2011, 11:25 PM

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We're interrupting your normally scheduled broadcast.

Reports are coming now, two dead in downtown Gotham. The victims, two employees of the Gotham Police Department, officers in the Major Crimes Unit. Maggie Sawyer and David Cornwell were both forensic scientists, veteran officers of the unit. Major Crimes is the unit responsible for investigating crime scenes, and both officers have been deeply involved in the investigation of the recent killings in Gotham.

Police they do not suspect the murders were perpetrated by the same killer. There is a press conference scheduled for shortly with more details about the deaths.

Danny is dead. He was Maggie Sawyer, Forensic Scientist.

The Jackal is dead. He was David Cornwell, Forensic Scientist.

Both Forensic Scientists are dead. There will be no more roles revealed upon death, whether a lynch or a night kill.

Commo_Soldier · 10-20-2011, 11:26 PM

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Danny is dead. He was Maggie Sawyer, Forensic Scientist.

The Jackal is dead. He was David Cornwell, Forensic Scientist.

Both Forensic Scientists are dead. There will be no more roles revealed upon death, whether a lynch or a night kill.

Well that blows big.

Vote Chief Rum

ntndeacon · 10-20-2011, 11:28 PM

Wow! Both of them at one night. We really have been unlucky on who the supervillians have gone after.

Chief Rum · 10-20-2011, 11:30 PM

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Well that blows big.

Vote Chief Rum

I am going to stop this right now. You guys need to stop tunnel visioning yourselves.

I am your other bodyguard.

Autumn · 10-20-2011, 11:31 PM

The Gotham Enquirer

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Police investigators have confirmed that evidence from last night's killings have implicated a new killer. Evidence upon the scene have helped detectives identify one of the killers as Victor Fries, a former Gotham University researcher. More disturbing though is that surveillance footage showed Fries attacking his victim while wearing some sort of mechanical contraption, and referring to himself as Dr. Freeze. Gotham is facing not only another killer, but another costumed freak, perhaps on the level of The Joker himself.

Still of surveillance footage of the costumed killer

Fries, an expert in cryogenics research, was removed from his research position after causing the death of his wife. Nora Fries, who suffered from a terminal disease, was the subject of an unapproved experiment, meant to put the woman in suspended animation but which turned out lethal. It appears that Fries used a weaponized version of the very same equipment in the homicide last night. The victim's body was found frozen solid, and then smashed to pieces.

A killer dressed as a clown. A killer with two faces. A killer with a freeze ray. What's next? In a city suddenly flooded with costumed killers, it seems we need our costumed vigilante more than ever. The police are no match for these guys, and if they keep crawling out of the wood work, what chance do we have? Batman, where are you?

Commo_Soldier · 10-20-2011, 11:31 PM

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Wow! Both of them at one night. We really have been unlucky on who the supervillians have gone after.

Yes, I'm guessing the supervillians are going after strong players. What I'm intrigued about now is if there are two why the second didn't go after Mauboy. I wonder if they thought there was no danger in having Chief getting scanned.

Commo_Soldier · 10-20-2011, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I am going to stop this right now. You guys need to stop tunnel visioning yourselves.

I am your other bodyguard.

Why do you come out with that right now? Mau stated he ran a scan on you for a supervillian, why not wait until it comes back negative.

ntndeacon · 10-20-2011, 11:34 PM

Maybe they thought he would be covered tonight and wanted to try to get a third villian? it worked out well as we wont know now how many disturbed folks are left. we know there are 2 right now. and we wont know when we get one of the villians either. hopefully that will be relatively clear.

Chief Rum · 10-20-2011, 11:36 PM

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Why do you come out with that right now? Mau stated he ran a scan on you for a supervillian, why not wait until it comes back negative.

Because I already know what you guys will do. You'll say I must be deranged then, so better for me to be dead. You guys were locked in. And I can't protect the remaining good guys anyway. There's only one of me. I'll protect one tomorrow night, they'll kill the other. Or they'll just kill me and one of the roles will survive. Doesn't matter, we're at the same point either way.

At least this way you guys who are locked in can move in and find another candidate.

Chief Rum · 10-20-2011, 11:37 PM

move on, that is

Autumn · 10-20-2011, 11:38 PM

*starts unpacking suitcase.* Damn.

MrBug708 · 10-20-2011, 11:39 PM

I can't think of what was worst. Sitting in class for over three hours, reading this result, or the UCLA game. I would say the UCLA is the worst, no offense Gotham.

MrBug708 · 10-20-2011, 11:45 PM

Ahh...Chief! Commo, why did you vote so early? We had nothing to lose by doing that and waiting for Mau's scan. Chief should not have revealed so early either, but now the wolves know who Dawes, Batman, and the last BG are and no matter what, we won't ever know if we hit a disturb citizen or a super villain

Autumn · 10-20-2011, 11:54 PM

I'm out for the night. Stay safe, Gotham

Tyrith · 10-21-2011, 12:23 AM

Blah. Maybe we can figure out some sort of vote pattern at this point, at least, because we know of so many good guys...because they're dead.

Narcizo · 10-21-2011, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I am going to stop this right now. You guys need to stop tunnel visioning yourselves.

I am your other bodyguard.

Get your reveal out there quickly - good move and quick thinking. You realise it's not going to alleviate suspicion of you though, right? There's now no way we're going to be able to confirm this (we've had pretty absymal luck with the roles this game). I'm leaning to not believing you, Chief, but I'm interested to see if anyone counter-reveals this (and I think they have to) - and who it is. Hope to god it's someone with some degree of trust because we're never going to know for sure.

Two-Face and friend taking out Jackal and Danny suggests that they were looking at Crimson-voters as suspicious. Right enough I'm really regretting moving my vote off of Chief. (unless he is the bodyguard) Sorry Commo and, well, everyone really. It's open season for the deranged citizens now.

Narcizo · 10-21-2011, 02:31 AM

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Yes, I'm guessing the supervillians are going after strong players. What I'm intrigued about now is if there are two why the second didn't go after Mauboy. I wonder if they thought there was no danger in having Chief getting scanned.

Or they presumed the bodygaurd would be on Mau tonight seems like the most likely result.

I agree about the strong player theory though.

Hoops - ? - Danny/Jackal

That ? could be Chief, could be Lathum, could be me if you want to be really generous to me. Get the feeling I'm going to be getting a lot of heat today. Wish mau could have published his result last night.

Anyway, what I'm interested in is why McKerney emerged as the "save Commo" plan and not Chief. Sure it turned out to be a good result for us but the wolves probably had no idea about that. Going to see if I have time to look at that and to look at McKerney's posts.

Narcizo · 10-21-2011, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

Why do you come out with that right now? Mau stated he ran a scan on you for a supervillian, why not wait until it comes back negative.

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Because I already know what you guys will do. You'll say I must be deranged then, so better for me to be dead.

Not buying it Chief. Seems more like you realise you're going to come up bad and you're getting the reveal in before that happens, knowing it'll have less impact later. If there is a bodygaurd they, obviously, need to hold off until mau reveals his scan.

I don't think there's much chance that Chief is a deranged citizen at this stage, although I could be wrong. He's either the bodyguard or a supervillain as far as I'm concerned.

Narcizo · 10-21-2011, 02:50 AM

Fucking hell we might as well have all had a mass reveal at the start the way this game has gone. I was going to suggest it but didn't think it was in the spirit of the game (and no-one would have bought it of course).

MrBug708 · 10-21-2011, 02:54 AM

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Fucking hell we might as well have all had a mass reveal at the start the way this game has gone. I was going to suggest it but didn't think it was in the spirit of the game (and no-one would have bought it of course).

It actually crossed my mind as well.

I think this is going to be an interesting day. If all three are telling the truth, you have one body guard to protect three "known" people. Luckily there still is the one unrevealed role of Chief Psychiatrist, which should stay hidden. Assuming Chief is who he says he is, he needs to gamble on who to protect tonight. As much as it sucks, out of the three, Batman is the least valuable while Mau is the strongest

Narcizo · 10-21-2011, 03:19 AM

I think Commo is probably pretty safe at the moment. The main threat he offers the baddies now (barring a Batman counter-reveal) is that he's cleared and is trying to analyse things, making him something of a rarity.

Got to say that it sucks that the usually vocal people got roles while it looks like the UTRs are either vanila or baddies.

mauchow · 10-21-2011, 05:32 AM

Chief is not the killer...

Narcizo · 10-21-2011, 05:36 AM

Well damn.

Chief Rum · 10-21-2011, 05:36 AM

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Chief is not the killer...

Thank you.

saldana · 10-21-2011, 06:05 AM

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Yes, I'm guessing the supervillians are going after strong players. What I'm intrigued about now is if there are two why the second didn't go after Mauboy. I wonder if they thought there was no danger in having Chief getting scanned.

because the BG cant protect the same person twice in a row, and with one already dead, Mau will be open tonight...assuming that is, that he was guarded last night. Im not surprised at all...Freeze didnt want to risk a block by making the obvious attack, so he went looking for another nut job to convert or just killed someone he wanted out.

Narcizo · 10-21-2011, 06:49 AM

Spoiler - don't get your hopes up.

Pity you revealed Chief - honestly think it was premature with a scan on you. On the other hand you're not going to be the only one going to be revealing prematurely today.

We have next to no useful information to work with so I think I'm going to have to reveal as well. I think the chances of me surviving a lynch tonight and the night's kills are pretty low, so I'd better get the little information I have out there. Our run of bad luck with roles continues as I'm the Pyschiatrist.

My scans.
N0 - Zinto
N1 - Hoops
N2 - J23
N3 - Lathum

All clear.

I was getting the odd read on Hoops early on so I bunged an early scan in on him (way before Danny said anything about him, obviously). I forgot that your best bet is try to get a decent circle of trust going into the latter stages of the game, the odd mechanics didn't help there either as I knew that if Hoops was going to be converted on night one then that was my only chance to scan him.

Day two was a reaction to day one. I know that J23 can be a good analytical villager when he's on his game and I figured (unlike Hoops) he would be around till late in the game

Day three - didn't think there was any point in scanning Chief or Commo, figured they would be dead or converted by this stage. Lathum was next on my list.

If mau is on the level then Zinto is defintely a villager. J23 can only be Two-Face and Lathum is either a villager or a Supervillain.

Honestly I'm about ready to throw this game - I think our best chance was Chief being a baddie. I haven't seen any help or support at all coming from the vanilla villagers apart from Crimson. Frankly the village that's left deserves to lose.

I get that it looks suspicious that I'm revealing without heat or that I should gut it out another night at least but let's face it, with no reveal on death any baddy on the block is going to be able to claim my role as a get out of jail free card. I thought Chief was a supervillain so I was prepared to wait out one more day while we lynched him and the baddies only had one kill but that's not how its shaken out.

Narcizo · 10-21-2011, 07:00 AM

3. PackerFanatic
4. Sndvls
5. Zinto - Cleared by mau and myself, with no chance of interlap
7. Lathum - either villager or converted on night two
8. NTNdeacon
10. Mauboy1 - Claims Rachel, undisputed for more than a day
11. MrBug708
13. Dzilla77
14. J23 - either villager or Two-Face
15. Saldana
16. Tyrith - not Two-Face
17. Chief Rum - claims Bodyguard
19. Daddy Torgo
20. Narcizo - claims Arkham
21. Commo_soldier - Claims Batman

I think that covers it. My understanding of mau's claimed scans are
N0 Lathum
N1 Zinto
N2 Tyrith
N3 Chief

Again mine are
N0 Zinto
N1 Hoops
N2 J23
N3 Lathum

Narcizo · 10-21-2011, 07:03 AM

Mass reveal on day one would have so made this game easier.

Narcizo · 10-21-2011, 07:13 AM

Despite it being a very poor percentage play I'm still liking Lathum as the night two conversion but I don't think it's something we can pursue today. I don't really understand why Chief is still alive. I think we have to work under the assumption that he said something that tipped off the bad guys that he was a villager.

saldana · 10-21-2011, 07:24 AM

Narc, I think that is a good reveal from you, and will keep my vote off you, unfortunately, this is a very tough ruleset, and even the combination of both sets of scan results doesn't actually clear anyone of anything.

my vote will likely go straight to one of the silent guys today

Narcizo · 10-21-2011, 07:36 AM

Cutting out all the filler we get a grand amount of posts. Congrats to Mckerney on playing his cards close to his chest.

Day One

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