Werewolf XLI - Apocalypse Awakens - Game over!

[Talgian]

Originally Posted by Alan T

It seems pretty obvious to me that it was a special attack of some form. Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

I have only catalogued four standard forms of attack, and acid is not amongst them.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Professor X)

Warpath, allow me to summarize somewhat.

Feel Good about:
Captain America

Feel Decent about:
Captain Britain
Mr. Sinister
Wolverine
Doom
Magneto
Captain Marvel


Everyone else is more-or-less equal, although I certainly wouldn't support an attack against everyone. Hulk for example. I don't believe it makes sense to attack him.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

(Professor X)

Warpath, allow me to summarize somewhat.

Feel Good about:
Captain America

Feel Decent about:
Captain Britain
Mr. Sinister
Wolverine
Doom
Magneto
Captain Marvel


Everyone else is more-or-less equal, although I certainly wouldn't support an attack against everyone. Hulk for example. I don't believe it makes sense to attack him.

Interesting, you dont like anyone on your own team...you are likely correct to think that way, but its interesting none-the-less.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

(Professor X)

Warpath, allow me to summarize somewhat.

Feel Good about:
Captain America

Feel Decent about:
Captain Britain
Mr. Sinister
Wolverine
Doom
Magneto
Captain Marvel


Everyone else is more-or-less equal, although I certainly wouldn't support an attack against everyone. Hulk for example. I don't believe it makes sense to attack him.

I am a little puzzled to why you feel so good about Cpt. America. To be honest, I am still trying to digest his activities from yesterday. I've been feeling really uneasy about him today. Did I miss something that makes him seem or sound more trustworthy than everyone else?

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

[Iron Man]

If/When I die, Hawkeye should be the first person you should look at. He's been gunning against me from the first instant and I am good.

Here's the quote from Iron Man yesterday about Hawkeye that everyone has been talking about.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Here's the quote from Iron Man yesterday about Hawkeye that everyone has been talking about.

Cannonball, I already brought that up!

[Abe Sargent]

I think its interesting that on a day in which one person admittedly is getting a lot of

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Interesting, you dont like anyone on your own team...you are likely correct to think that way, but its interesting none-the-less.

(Professor X)

I don't DIStrust anyone on my own team either, but aside from the fact that our attack against Cannonball was not sabotaged I have not seen anything from the members of my own team that would make me elevate them above anyone else.

To be very clear Moon Knight, I am decidedly neutal about anyone not listed, and those in the large group are only maybe 5% above neutral.

It does not mean that I believe the members of my own team to be agents of Apocalypse, it just means that I do not have any outside evidence to support their working for good.

[Barkeep49]

Oh I see what you're saying. Ok I'll buy that.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

I think its interesting that on a day in which one person admittedly is getting a lot of

Sorry, hit enter too soon trying to type as quickly as I can, because itsa very intermittent.

that the person with the admittiedly conn problems is also the one under cscrunity. ask yourselfvew if 24 people the one is unde the microspace if that's not someone tyring to manipulate the sitaution.

[Barkeep49]

1109 was directed at Alan.

[Abe Sargent]

wow bad grammer alert.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Cannonball, I already brought that up!

(Cannonball)

"Sorry about that Warpath, Ah'm the son of a coal miner and not that well educated."

[Barkeep49]

Ok speaking of people, where has Raiders been? Yesterday he got a free pass. But we know he arrived home early. Where's he been today. I'm VERY suspicious of UTR people and I think he's used up the common courtesy at this point.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Professor X)

Warpath,

It is what it is. Captain America himself is here to reassure you that I am right to trust him I believe.

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

(Professor X)

Warpath, allow me to summarize somewhat.

Feel Good about:
Captain America

Feel Decent about:
Captain Britain
Mr. Sinister
Wolverine
Doom
Magneto
Captain Marvel


Everyone else is more-or-less equal, although I certainly wouldn't support an attack against everyone. Hulk for example. I don't believe it makes sense to attack him.

To expand on that with my own:

Complete Trust:
Captain Britain

Feel Good about:
Doctor Doom
Professor X
Wolverine

Hinky Vibe:
Magneto

Distrust:
Mystique
Hawkeye

Everybody else is still up in the air for me. Not necessarily good, not necessarily bad, just that I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about them.

[DaddyTorgo]

(Professor X)

Captain America, care to elaborate on why the high level of trust for Captain Britain? It might move him up my list if you at least told me that you had evidence to believe him, rather than a gut feeling.

I don't need to know HOW you have the evidence, or what it is, just that you have more than a gut feeling please.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by SackAttack

To expand on that with my own:

Complete Trust:
Captain Britain

Feel Good about:
Doctor Doom
Professor X
Wolverine

Hinky Vibe:
Magneto

Distrust:
Mystique
Hawkeye

Everybody else is still up in the air for me. Not necessarily good, not necessarily bad, just that I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about them.

Captain,

You've told us why you don't like mystique, but I don't recall you saying much about hawkeye. Why do you have distrust of him?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

(Professor X)

Captain America, care to elaborate on why the high level of trust for Captain Britain? It might move him up my list if you at least told me that you had evidence to believe him, rather than a gut feeling.

I don't need to know HOW you have the evidence, or what it is, just that you have more than a gut feeling please.

I think the fact he tried to protect one of the 12 from attacks is pretty solid evidence, no?

[LoneStarGirl]

PRofessor I too am very confident in Captain America. As you know he was my mentor and brought me into the Avengers. He is a wonderful man who I will trust until something tells me different

[path12]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

(Professor X)

Captain America, care to elaborate on why the high level of trust for Captain Britain? It might move him up my list if you at least told me that you had evidence to believe him, rather than a gut feeling.

I don't need to know HOW you have the evidence, or what it is, just that you have more than a gut feeling please.

(Silver Surfer)

Professor, it seems to me that by Captain Britain using his powers to defend the good Iron Man that he has bought himself a certain amount of trust. Whether that is fully deserved or not time will tell. But I am not likely to attack him for now.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I think the fact he tried to protect one of the 12 from attacks is pretty solid evidence, no?

(Professor X)

That's right...he did didn't he? With all the information flowing around, even my brain can get muddled.

Newly revised

TRUST

Captain Britain
Captain America
Myself (obviously)

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

(Professor X)

Captain America, care to elaborate on why the high level of trust for Captain Britain? It might move him up my list if you at least told me that you had evidence to believe him, rather than a gut feeling.

I don't need to know HOW you have the evidence, or what it is, just that you have more than a gut feeling please.

The strongest thing I can point to is that actions speak louder than words, Professor.

We collectively have done quite a lot of talking, but Captain Britain's actions in overt defense of Iron Man helped to move him from "Feel Good About" to where he is now.

[Bonegavel]

(Wolverine)

To prove my intentions are good, I submit that I will, again, only attack the person my team has selected. I'm a team player and want this evil gone just as bad as the rest of you.

If my team cannot come to a consensus and they would happen to split their choice, I will abstain for action today.

I know I was hot-headed yesterday, but I get grouchy when I run out of beer.

Having said that, I reserve the right to rescind my offer should my team act in a completely different way during this afternoon's discussion because I am not a total lunatic, cool-aid drinker. But I actually feel pretty good about my team thus far.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

PRofessor I too am very confident in Captain America. As you know he was my mentor and brought me into the Avengers. He is a wonderful man who I will trust until something tells me different

(Professor X)

Trying to ride into my trust on his coattails Captain Marvel? You are slightly more likely to be good than bad in my mind at this point, but a move like this smacks of desperation and is more likely to lower you in my opinion than raise you Captain Marvel. In due time if you are truly good it will become clear and you will be elevated. But you cannot rush such a thing, you can only hope to contribute to the rooting out and destruction of Apocalypse and his minions to raise your status in my eyes. Or be vouched for (via a declaration of some type of evidence) by someone who is trusted.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Bonegavel

(Wolverine)

To prove my intentions are good, I submit that I will, again, only attack the person my team has selected. I'm a team player and want this evil gone just as bad as the rest of you.

If my team cannot come to a consensus and they would happen to split their choice, I will abstain for action today.

I know I was hot-headed yesterday, but I get grouchy when I run out of beer.

Having said that, I reserve the right to rescind my offer should my team act in a completely different way during this afternoon's discussion because I am not a total lunatic, cool-aid drinker. But I actually feel pretty good about my team thus far.

(Warpath)

I would advise against this approach. Being under the radar or just going with the flow is a good way to draw attention down the road. Its ok to be wrong about a vote, but give your reasoning for the vote. If you and your team disagree then perhaps its a good point to attack somewhere else. Having an attack bonus for your team is nice as long as you are attacking a good candidate. An attack bonus on someone you feel is a bad candidate is just sending a good guy to his doom faster.

[WVUFAN]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

(Professor X)

That's right...he did didn't he? With all the information flowing around, even my brain can get muddled.

Newly revised

TRUST

Captain Britain
Captain America
Myself (obviously)

{Doom}

He did so AFTER everyone had attacked him, and with the knowledge that his protection would not protect the damage already done. More than likely, he was already defeated, and his "protection" was only for show.

No, his protection is meaningless.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Alan T

(Warpath)

I would advise against this approach. Being under the radar or just going with the flow is a good way to draw attention down the road. Its ok to be wrong about a vote, but give your reasoning for the vote. If you and your team disagree then perhaps its a good point to attack somewhere else. Having an attack bonus for your team is nice as long as you are attacking a good candidate. An attack bonus on someone you feel is a bad candidate is just sending a good guy to his doom faster.

(Professor X)

Astute observation and one that smacks of you being good Warpath.

*mentally moves Warpath up a notch on his trust list*

[Barkeep49]

I would still like Deadpool out there for consideration for tonight's vote.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

{Doom}

He did so AFTER everyone had attacked him, and with the knowledge that his protection would not protect the damage already done. More than likely, he was already defeated, and his "protection" was only for show.

No, his protection is meaningless.

(X)

I thought of this too Doom. Added to that the fact that the only way he could have known for sure that Iron Man was one of the 12 is if he was evil.

[ooc] however we should remember that gi is a new player, and likely was more confused than the rest of us with how to utilize his powers. i also find it more likely that as a new player he jumped to the defense of a player on his team whom he believed to be good. in short, i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt [/ooc]

[SackAttack]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

[ooc] however we should remember that gi is a new player, and likely was more confused than the rest of us with how to utilize his powers. i also find it more likely that as a new player he jumped to the defense of a player on his team whom he believed to be good. in short, i'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt [/ooc]

{OOC} This is a big part of why his actions were so meaningful to me. {/OOC}

[Thomkal]

(Cannonball)

Looks like the bad guys are waiting for us good guys to make a move.

[Schmidty]

HULK FINALLY AWAKE!!!!!!!!

[Talgian]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I would still like Deadpool out there for consideration for tonight's vote.

I realize that my studies have consumed me moreso than usual, but nonetheless I concur. We've barely seen any of him, and when every person could potentially be a Horseman, that seems mighty, mighty strange.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

My mistake. Deadpool is the other person who did not attack.

With gi not understanding the rules, we still have 3 folks who did not attack. I would like to know why.

[ooc]Catching up[/ooc]

*Deadpool*

What was in it for me? The way I see it, I have a pretty devastating attack. I'm not going to use it for free. Some alliance just needs to make the right offer and I'll be their merc. Until then...

[DaddyTorgo]

(X - i'm not typing "professor" each time anymore)

Eric, I agree with you that the time for Deadpool to contribute or risk being attacked is approaching. I think that we are definately still justified at looking at Hawkeye too, as he was right in the middle of the attack on Iron Man and pushed his group towards it.

[ooc] his "connection" problems could be a cover too. one or the other could be benefit of the doubt, but both...you sorta lose the benefit of the dobut [/ooc]

[hoopsguy]

Talgian at zero posts reminds me of the "I'm just here for the Bud Light" guy in the commercials - no, he is not the bass player.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

(X - i'm not typing "professor" each time anymore)

Eric, I agree with you that the time for Deadpool to contribute or risk being attacked is approaching. I think that we are definately still justified at looking at Hawkeye too, as he was right in the middle of the attack on Iron Man and pushed his group towards it.

[ooc] his "connection" problems could be a cover too. one or the other could be benefit of the doubt, but both...you sorta lose the benefit of the dobut [/ooc]

I don't ever like to accuse someone of stating out of game issues as cover for in game wolfishness. I don't like to say someone really didn't have to go out or have whatever keeping them from the board. I'll assume his connection problems are legit and leave it at that.

That said, he's had plenty of time to talk about his connection problems as well as respond to people's concern about him. Instead of responding to my concerns, he lashed back out at people concerned about him. As you can probably assume, that didn't help alleviate my concerns, and right now I am heavily leaning to attacking him (with or without anyone else). I'm waiting till near time to go (another 20 minutes or so) and then I'll have to make my move. I've given plenty of warning, so there can't be any claims of ambushing him or such.

[spleen1015]

Is it time to get the party started? Come on! Let's go!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[spleen1015]

I doubt your mind will get changed in the 20 minutes Warpath.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I don't ever like to accuse someone of stating out of game issues as cover for in game wolfishness. I don't like to say someone really didn't have to go out or have whatever keeping them from the board. I'll assume his connection problems are legit and leave it at that.

That said, he's had plenty of time to talk about his connection problems as well as respond to people's concern about him. Instead of responding to my concerns, he lashed back out at people concerned about him. As you can probably assume, that didn't help alleviate my concerns, and right now I am heavily leaning to attacking him (with or without anyone else). I'm waiting till near time to go (another 20 minutes or so) and then I'll have to make my move. I've given plenty of warning, so there can't be any claims of ambushing him or such.

(X)

Warpath,

I would be open to joining your attack on him, and although I can't promise that the rest of Team SilverMoon would join me, there are as many reasons for attacking Hawkeye as there are anyone else.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

I doubt your mind will get changed in the 20 minutes Warpath.

(Warpath)

You never know. Enough people have been speaking good about Cpt America today to make me back off him some. I'm getting a weird uneasy feel about Hawkeye where no one is outright coming out feeling good about him, but no one is pushing really for his lynch either. I'm not sure what to make of it.

[spleen1015]

[ooc]It's only a game[/ooc]

I'm tired of waiting for people to follow their minds when they know they want to do this!!!!!!!!!!

ATTACK Hawkeye

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Talgian

I realize that my studies have consumed me moreso than usual, but nonetheless I concur. We've barely seen any of him, and when every person could potentially be a Horseman, that seems mighty, mighty strange.

*Deadpool*

It's pretty strange that I posted right underneath this.

I'm no Horseman...I can't even ride a donkey!

The funny thing is that there was a pretty good My Name is Earl and The Office on last night and I watched them since no organization offered me a deal to take someone out. *Shrug*

[Alan T]

Its not really as much following my mind as just trying to get a read on people. I came in today mainly targeting:

Cpt. America, Hawkeye, Marvel, Spiderman, Wolverine and Sinister (As I mentioned earlier today). Peoples responses about Cpt America made me mark him off my list, Sinister's own responses made me choose to not push him any more, I decided against Wolverine due to what happened with Doom. THat left me with Marvel, Spiderman and Hawkeye. I went back and looked at their comments and what they did yesterday, and ended up ranking them:

Hawkeye
Marvel
Spiderman

In the order of my feeling like I wanted to push for them. So I brought up Hawkeye (evidentally at the same time Spiderman did) to see what people felt. I'm curious why Spiderman brought him up and then left the discussion though. Since my attack is final, I just want to make a good choice before I go.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Alan T

(Warpath)

You never know. Enough people have been speaking good about Cpt America today to make me back off him some. I'm getting a weird uneasy feel about Hawkeye where no one is outright coming out feeling good about him, but no one is pushing really for his lynch either. I'm not sure what to make of it.

(X)

Warpath I agree with you there is something strange about that. It would be too early in the game for any of the minions of Apocalypse to abandon each other.

Perhaps we truly are spinning in circles like a top and are aiming at the wrong target?

[Talgian]

Although I have not heard from Doom or Juggernaut, I too am inclined towards attacking Deadpool. It's just too suspicious. It seems like a better choice than Hawkeye, who could go either way.

[Raiders Army]

*Deadpool*

Maybe I'll just whack somebody for free.

[DaddyTorgo]

(X)

Moon Knight...any thoughts? Spidey? Eric?

[spleen1015]

Cowards!