2010 NFL Offseason Thread - Offseason ends at 6 pm est

[stevew]

is it offensive to say that someone's mother has a wide receiver?

[Logan]

Originally Posted by stevew

is it offensive to say that someone's mother has a wide receiver?

Less so than a tight end.

[Greyroofoo]

But more so than a Split End?

[NorvTurnerOverdrive]

scouting report says she does her best work in the slot. but can be a deep threat when she's split wide.

[RendeR]

FIRED...yer all FIRED.

[Danny]

Wow, even the Raiders still have 6 picks from those drafts.

[DeToxRox]

Dez Bryant becomes the first first rounder to sign according to Adam Schefter.

[duckman]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Dez Bryant becomes the first first rounder to sign according to Adam Schefter.

[stevew]

His mother must not be a whore. Otherwise he would have been able to hold off signing for awhile longer.

[DaddyTorgo]

News out of Pats-ville today has it that Wes Welker will NOT need to go on the PUP list at all, and will be able to fully participate in all preseason training camp activities and barring and barring any unexpected setbacks, should be fit to start the season opener!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Sublime 2]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

News out of Pats-ville today has it that Wes Welker will NOT need to go on the PUP list at all, and will be able to fully participate in all preseason training camp activities and barring and barring any unexpected setbacks, should be fit to start the season opener!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That's down right scary.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Sublime 2

That's down right scary.

Fuck yeah!!

I hope he's okay and isn't risking anything not being fully healed.

[jeff061]

Welker's a freak. Hopefully all turns out well for him, guy deserves super stardom for the remainder of his career.

[Swaggs]

Some sad news, as Kaye Cowher (wife of Bill Cowher) lost her battle with cancer at the age of 54. I hadn't heard that she was ill, but I now suspect that could be why he retired and hasn't returned to coaching.

[stevew]

Oh, that sucks.

[Greyroofoo]

USC's Kiffin irks Titans' Fisher with hire

Lane Kiffin: The douchebag who keeps on douchebagging!

[JPhillips]

That's a potential big money donor that he's pissed off. I'd certainly hear about it if I treated a multi-millionaire alum this way.

[Passacaglia]

Wes Welker placed on the Active PUP list.

New England Patriots place WR Wes Welker on PUP list to start camp - The Huddle: Football News from the NFL - USATODAY.com

[jeff061]

Yeah, all the local media was getting all orgasmic on how the deadline passed(I thought) on putting him on the inactive PUP.

Now I'm reading since they put him on the active PUP(which doesn't mean he can't play week 1) they can still put him on the inactive. I hate the media.

[miked]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

USC's Kiffin irks Titans' Fisher with hire

Lane Kiffin: The douchebag who keeps on douchebagging!

Yay for lawsuits!

[molson]

I was wondering why this Kennedy Pola would burn bridges like this, but that is a pretty big promotion. Kiffin screwed up the courtesy protocol, because he's a douchebag, but no NFL coach is going to get in the way of a guy moving from assistant running back coach to offensive coordinator, even if the training camp is about to start. I'm sure Fischer can find another guy to hold a clipboard and a stopwatch in time.

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by molson

I was wondering why this Kennedy Pola would burn bridges like this, but that is a pretty big promotion. Kiffin screwed up the courtesy protocol, because he's a douchebag, but no NFL coach is going to get in the way of a guy moving from assistant running back coach to offensive coordinator, even if the training camp is about to start. I'm sure Fischer can find another guy to hold a clipboard and a stopwatch in time.

I hope for Pol's sake Kiffin has a long career at USC because he won't be welcomed back to the NFL anytime soon.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Galaril

I hope for Pol's sake Kiffin has a long career at USC because he won't be welcomed back to the NFL anytime soon.

It doesn't appear his career was going anywhere anyway. Might as well take one last desperation hail-mary.

[jeff061]

Two years until he's coaching the Raiders.

[M GO BLUE!!!]

Jack Tatum is dead. Let's give the Raiders a break for a minute.

[albionmoonlight]

Am I crazy to think that the Lions at 15-1 to win the NFC North is giving pretty good odds? Stafford had a good rookie season and has a year under his belt. Calvin Johnson is still one of the top 2-3 offensive weapons in the league. And the defense is young and hungry.

The Packers are one sacked-far-too-often Rogers injury away from being below .500. The Vikings have a bad coach and ended last year on a horrible note. And I just don't think that Martz & Cutler are made for each other.

Now, I'm not saying that the Lions are more likely than not to win the North. But I do think that they are better than the 7% chance that the early odds are giving them.

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Am I crazy to think that the Lions at 15-1 to win the NFC North is giving pretty good odds? Stafford had a good rookie season and has a year under his belt. Calvin Johnson is still one of the top 2-3 offensive weapons in the league. And the defense is young and hungry.

The Packers are one sacked-far-too-often Rogers injury away from being below .500. The Vikings have a bad coach and ended last year on a horrible note. And I just don't think that Martz & Cutler are made for each other.

Now, I'm not saying that the Lions are more likely than not to win the North. But I do think that they are better than the 7% chance that the early odds are giving them.

You're forgetting one thing: They're the Lions.

[Ksyrup]

I thought you were asking whether the Lions going 15-1 was a good bet to take.

[molson]

Originally Posted by JediKooter

You're forgetting one thing: They're the Lions.

That's probably the main reason to put a few bucks on them. "Being the Lions" probably bumps their odds in the division from 10-1 to 15-1.

I mean, I wouldn't take either bet, but that's the kind of stuff I look for.

[Doug5984]

15-1, sounds reasonable.

I've found a good bet right before the season is the over under bets on total wins / losses. There are always 1 that stands out and seems like a no brainer.

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I thought you were asking whether the Lions going 15-1 was a good bet to take.

Thats what I thought also.

[DataKing]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Am I crazy to think that the Lions at 15-1 to win the NFC North is giving pretty good odds? Stafford had a good rookie season and has a year under his belt. Calvin Johnson is still one of the top 2-3 offensive weapons in the league. And the defense is young and hungry.

The Packers are one sacked-far-too-often Rogers injury away from being below .500. The Vikings have a bad coach and ended last year on a horrible note. And I just don't think that Martz & Cutler are made for each other.

Now, I'm not saying that the Lions are more likely than not to win the North. But I do think that they are better than the 7% chance that the early odds are giving them.

I don't think anyone is going to question the value of Calvin Johnson, and Stafford showed the most guts I've seen out of a Lions QB since Eric Hipple, but there are questions on the coaching staff and I just don't think they have the defense to have a realistic shot at the division title. "Young and hungry" does not put them on the same level as:

1. Vikings: IMHO the best defensive line in football, period. End of story. (Starcaps be damned)
2. Packers: Capers is a damn genius when it comes to running a 3-4 defense. As a Bears fan, I cried when I learned the Pack had hired him.
3. Bears: Definitely the #3 defense in the division, and still better than the Lions. Losing Alex Brown hurts, but I'll still take Peppers, Briggs, Urlacher etc. over a defense whose best player will be a rookie this year.

Now don't get me wrong, I have a soft spot for the Lions and I want to see them do well, but I just don't see it happening on defense. At least not yet. But all the same I can't wait to see what Suh does this year. I get the feeling he's going to be really special. It's been a long time since I saw a defensive lineman dominate a game like he did in the Big 12 title game, and that was against the Longhorns.

Sadly I think 7% is being a bit optimistic.

[Honolulu_Blue]

The Lions will be lucky to win 5 games this year.

[DeToxRox]

Ochocinco is saying TO is officially a Bengal on Twitter.

[DeToxRox]

Dola, confirmed by the Bengals website.

[rowech]

It takes all of my being as a Bengals fan to stomach Chad. I don't know if I can root for TO as well. Just going to be an agonizing season to be a fan.

[JPhillips]

I'm mostly pissed because apparently Bryant is both hurt and underperforming. Shouldn't you have knon that before you signed him to a 29 mil deal?

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by molson

That's probably the main reason to put a few bucks on them. "Being the Lions" probably bumps their odds in the division from 10-1 to 15-1.

I mean, I wouldn't take either bet, but that's the kind of stuff I look for.

I can definitely see that, but, since it is the Lions, they will either just fall short or go 1-15 again, just to spite everyone that took the bet.

[RendeR]

*sigh*

[JeeberD]

LOL

[stevew]

good signing for the Bengals.

[cougarfreak]

Man.........the circus is coming to town.

[JPhillips]

Rumors are that it's likely that Bryant will go to the PUP.

How can you sign a guy and not know his knee is fucked?

[Butter]

Yeah, this signing more than anything says to me "Oh shit, this Bryant guy isn't going to make it."

Way to go, idiots.

[RainMaker]

The TO signing reminds me of why I hate ESPN. They're treating this as if Jerry Rice in his prime just signed. Wall-to wall coverage for a guy who caught 50 odd passes last year.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

The TO signing reminds me of why I hate ESPN. They're treating this as if Jerry Rice in his prime just signed. Wall-to wall coverage for a guy who caught 50 odd passes last year.

Other than college football games, the Monday night game, perhaps that college football highlight show and NBA games (if that's what you like), I don't understand why anyone watches ESPN anymore. You know what you're going to get.

[Doug5984]

Saints signed Patrick Ramsey- repeat!

I guess he'll be a decent backup

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Doug5984

Saints signed Patrick Ramsey- repeat!

I guess he'll be a decent backup

He seems like a smart QB, so hopefully, he can be an asset to Brees in the film room.

Basically, if Brees goes down for any length of time, the Saints have no chance. The team is all-in on the idea of Brees staying healthy. So I don't have a problem with getting a backup like Ramsey. I'd rather the team spend money on getting higher quality backups for other positions.

[Doug5984]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

He seems like a smart QB, so hopefully, he can be an asset to Brees in the film room.

Basically, if Brees goes down for any length of time, the Saints have no chance. The team is all-in on the idea of Brees staying healthy. So I don't have a problem with getting a backup like Ramsey. I'd rather the team spend money on getting higher quality backups for other positions.

Exactly, if anything happens to Brees long term- we're f-ed doesn't matter who the backup is.... but Ramsey can't possibly be as bad as Brunell looked last preseason.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Doug5984

Exactly, if anything happens to Brees long term- we're f-ed doesn't matter who the backup is.... but Ramsey can't possibly be as bad as Brunell looked last preseason.

He could miss 2-3 games or something.

Ramsey gives you as good a chance as anybody available to win in that scenerio. I guess.