08-16-2006, 09:26 PM | #1101 | |
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Actually, the reason you state here is why I voted for Schmidty and said as much this morning. I know he's a tested vet, and felt he was being way too quiet. At the time, I didn't have much else to go on. I think we all have a lot to go on now, though, don't we, Blade? Let what happens in two days, happen in two days. But I certainly hope we won't be letting Blade slick his way out of a lynch tomorrow. If he does that, he truly will be a badass WW player.
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08-16-2006, 09:27 PM | #1102 | |
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08-16-2006, 09:40 PM | #1103 | |
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trying to get lucky 2 times in one night eh? |
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08-16-2006, 09:42 PM | #1104 |
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Ok let's view this from the simplest perspective: How is Blade not bad? I mean the guy is still alive (argument A for his being bad) & he was saved by the bad guys (argument B for his being bad). He can play the "ohh woe is me" all he wants. Well he should feel woe. He should die.
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08-16-2006, 10:45 PM | #1106 |
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yep. if the bad guys save you you prolly ought to die. there's an occam's razor choice for ya. i hafta say that i agree with barkeep on this one. especially since blade managed to have 3 villagers on his list this last time around.
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Thanks for reminding me of that Daddy. Hiding in plain sight can be a great tactic for a bad guy. AFterall who would be "dumb" enough to kill the people they're most suspicious of? I mean it's so obvious it couldn't be true, right? Except that of course means it could be true. Very, very true.
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08-16-2006, 10:50 PM | #1108 |
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yep. and blade seemed quite quick to form that "circle of trust" which if you notice, he was the only one promoting. he's been the 'circle of trust is our best defense' guy all along. in fact, IIRC, SunDvls never even posted anything to the effect of "sweet i trust blade back!" it's more like the whole COT is blade's invention to make himself seem...indispensible.
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08-16-2006, 10:53 PM | #1109 |
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Actually COT is our best hope. I just don't remember how Blade came to his conclusion. Does anybody? It is important we form a COT and the sooner the better. I just don't think we've got a basis, from what I've seen, to do it yet. And I'm no help in getting it done right now.
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08-16-2006, 10:54 PM | #1110 |
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how can our COT hope to survive without bodyguards or anything though? at least...if it's at all public, or if the wolves are analyzing our voting records, they'll just pick the people off or hide among them if it's too big
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08-16-2006, 10:58 PM | #1111 | |
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I am not certain, but I suspect there was a little bit of movement towards a circle of trust when a few people tried to put feelers out with their initial PM information. But, st. cronin has said that virtually everyone was made aware of the PM description that the "simple villagers" got. Keep in mind that we also, presumably, still have the masons working for us, as well. I have no idea what type of numbers they have, or if the even still exist, but if there are even a handful of them left, they give us a little bit of voting block advantage. |
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08-16-2006, 11:13 PM | #1113 |
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there is no way to verify if someone is good ( i dont think) or bad. no seers, bodyguards or anything fancy, didnt want to scare the newbies off by making it to complicated.
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08-16-2006, 11:53 PM | #1115 |
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Gather 'round the campfire and listen to old man Barkeep spin a yarn about days of werewolf gone by. Before them newfangled games with the pretty backstory. When it was a group of men against wolves, period.
No seers. No bodyguards. No one with a frigging lightsaber, spell, or kung fu grip. When men were men and they hunted wolves. |
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Now you're getting it. Goddamn, this is fascinating. Catching up -- still a half an hour to deadline!
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08-17-2006, 12:18 AM | #1117 |
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Then I'll wait on ya, path
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08-17-2006, 12:19 AM | #1118 |
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And when you get to that "Shit!" moment, I'll be here to hold your hand
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08-17-2006, 12:20 AM | #1119 |
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Well I'm going to go with what seems the best option, the simplest option really at the moment.
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I think you're right on. Wow.
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08-17-2006, 12:33 AM | #1121 | |
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Huh? Lathum being good doesn't prove a thing about you.
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08-17-2006, 12:53 AM | #1122 | |
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I might add Tanglewood to that list.
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08-17-2006, 12:55 AM | #1123 | |
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If you're in Schmidty's spot, you're in mine. Everyone else is dead though.
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08-17-2006, 12:59 AM | #1124 | |
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just a FYI...I was never in a COT w/ anyone. I'll I said was I have an uneasy feeling about fouts and was voting w/ blade on that one. I guess blade could be bad, but he just doesn't seem to be himself in this game. Usually if he's good he's throwing everything at a wall and hoping something sticks...here he's playing it safe, slow, and very low. I can't remember the last time he was bad. I honestly don't know which way to go, but I don't like how convient the Blade vote/pile on has become. I"m off to bed to think this over. |
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08-17-2006, 01:01 AM | #1125 | |
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I think he had to put that out there as a balance when the whole thing went public. Remember, he was just back from vacation and it was a hurried start. I think that the inital group was valid no matter what cronin said publicly. But it was never more that myself, Alan T, GoldenEagle and Schmidty. I've been on record as leaning toward Blade being good, but I've never linked myself to him like I did the others (though as I was catching up I noticed he linked to me). That said, I think some of the newer players are reading way too much into the whole 'can we trust the COT' thing. And some are actually trying so hard to discredit the idea that they are moving higher on my list. This particular COT has little actual effect in this game now.
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I've got to ponder this. This has been an excellent day of WW.
Barkeep makes a strong point -- there is a time where there's just too much evidence, and you've got to follow through on it. Blade is going to have to die soon and it might as well be now as later.......but I'm not ready yet to say I think he's bad. At this moment I think that there is at least one and likely multiple wolves in the Blade voters. Helluva game, cronin.
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08-17-2006, 04:59 AM | #1128 |
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Barkeep, et tu? Do you really believe, in the deep reccesses of your heart, i would kill all 3 people i suspected(and if i was bad, i would pick 3 villagers). If you want to kill me, im quite content to go down as long as you make sure when i come up a villager you kill chief(and maybe anxiety, depending on chiefs outcome). They have made my death wayyy too convenient, and i hope you dont walk right into their plans.
Im sorry im not going off the wall defending myself, but as you all note when i play my normal game i die day 1-3...its now day 4, so my new style met my goal of helping me live longer. I can throw shit on the walls again as someone put it, but then id already be dead.
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dola, and ill repeat the list(even though path is now trying to distance himself from me, hes apart of mine)
Blade Schmidty(who is now Barkeep) Path Gramat Alan GE Ok, thats 5 not including me...my error there
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did anyone else get a Godfather dejavu last night? all Blades enemies got wacked and then the first thing he does is point the finger at a "wolf" to draw suspicion away from him?
if they wanted you dead so bad why didnt they just kill you the first few nights? instead the evil dr uses both of his ace cards to set you up instead of saving them for a real wolf or himself? is that your theory? |
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08-17-2006, 08:24 AM | #1134 | |
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Lathum was pretty much a gonner before the momentum swiched to you. Did Dr. R use his powers so that instead of you dying before Lathum, that Lathum would die before you instead? What sense does that make? Blade might be Dr. R. Since he's on the wolves' team, it makes perfect sense to try to knock of a mason or two before he died (and loses the Frankenstein power). Yes, Blade counts as a human in victory conditions. But, as long as he's around, he'll vote in the interests of the wolves, and he'll continue to convince vilagers that he's not evil. We'd be better off without him And of course, Blade could be a wolf. But the villager option still makes no sense to me. Vote Blade After this, I think we really have to focus on ties (Which Blade was vocally oppossed to by the way). Villagers are running out of time, and our best remaining advantage is the masons. Masons are useless without ties, and there's little time left to attempt to "save" them until the end. |
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Every move made, the lathum kill, the fouts kill, and the GE kill, all point to me...as a bad guy, wolf or Dr, moves would be made to incriminate someone else with the kills.
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You know, it seemed a little too convenient that it was Lathum who ended up getting killed, while Blade and he were running neck and neck all day.
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COME ON GUYS, CONNECT THE DOTS!! The path laid before you is far too easy, please think
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08-17-2006, 08:45 AM | #1140 |
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Best evidence we have so far is the bad guy saving Blade. That makes Blade the highest probability of being a wolf or potentially being the Duke (Dr. Raimen). Either way it is the best strategy to get Blade off the table. Otherwise we will be dealing with this smoke screen ongoing.
Also, getting rid of Dr. Raimen is huge. He scans each round, effectively being a seer for the bad guys. Eventually he will out our Masons and any other specialty role that could have been hidden. That is not worth his headcount. VOTE BLADE |
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08-17-2006, 08:59 AM | #1148 | |
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In all seriousness, your best strategy after being fingered as a wolf in yesterdays debacle, is to create overwhelming evidence that you are being "setup". It is your only small chance of trying to talk your way out of a lynching of which now you have no escape power. |
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I admit there's a certain reasoning to your "would I do everything possible to make myself look bad" reasoning. But if you're not, say Dr. R, why does he chose to use Frankenstine last night? One suggestion is that he wouldn't use him before he died. |
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Can you re-read every posts in the last 20 pages...every move made from the day 3 lynch to now has made me look terrible....from bad, to worse, to damned...the path has been laid before you meaning my death. You are using today to lynch me like they want, and tomorrow, unless you listen to me about chief and anxiety, you will be lost and in a deep hole. Quote:
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