06-21-2006, 02:55 PM | #1101 |
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I am leaving for work in a few but since I don't have much to go on I am going to stick with my vote from yesterday.
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06-21-2006, 02:57 PM | #1102 | ||
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Him being quiet has nothing to do with it. It is just the way he has been playing while he's been in. Not Blade like. He's yet to accuse anyone. He seems to want to stay under the radar, could be a product of him being killed so early in the past when he plays a bad guy. Also he's been on my ass pretty hard while not coming right out and saying he doesn't trust me.
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06-21-2006, 02:59 PM | #1103 |
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im still a little suspicious of Dubbs, its not hard for me to believe that he has pulled the wool over our eyes. all he said was that he was the soothsayer and he knows that SnDvls is good. well he could have guessed that and had no harm come to him cause if Sndvls is bad he would have picked up on the lye and recognized a fellow necro right then. if sndvl was good he would have just assumed that Dubbs is telling the truth, and would then believe him.
on top of that the soothsayers role is neutral, which means he could be a necro. im not going to vote for Deebs because odds are he is good, and loosing him would be bad for us, but if he hands me a glass of kool-aid no way in hell im going to drink it |
06-21-2006, 03:01 PM | #1104 | |
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I have to agree with your assessment by and large, although I'd like to note that the quiet players have been the ones getting killed lately, not the loud ones. After 26 there has been a lot of pressure on the quiet players to speak up, and they've been punished, such as the mckerney/tanglewood Day 1/2 in 27, and all the pressure on swaggs, bek, and such this game. The balance has really started to swing. Yesterday's cronin vote does show some of that, but it's not as bad as it used to be at all. |
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06-21-2006, 03:03 PM | #1105 | |
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well well, it looks like someone tried to kill Passacaglia last night. does anyone have a grudge against him? |
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06-21-2006, 03:20 PM | #1106 |
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I don't have anything more to go on than I did yesterday after the dubbs reveal. I have no major alarms going off for anyone so I'm going to stick with the person I voted for yesterday since I still haven't seen that much of him (and no post giving a reason why he wouldn't be online). I'm not to sure I agree with the person that said "it may not be beneficial for the wolves to be quiet this game"...
Vote Bek pending any information that comes out before 10pm EST. I'm very interested in why someone would go after Pass |
06-21-2006, 03:23 PM | #1107 | |
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06-21-2006, 03:24 PM | #1108 | |
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He did caution us about you pretty hard. Making accusations and really doing all the shit blade does do takes time to read and think about everything. We've made a TON of posts. I think it's possible he's just kinda swamped. Also possible he's trying to do some UTR thing, too, like you said. |
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06-21-2006, 03:28 PM | #1109 | |
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Ooh, me! Me! Pick Me!!! This game is like crack. I can't stay away.
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06-21-2006, 03:29 PM | #1110 | |
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I had guessed Soothsayer, which is why I didn;t want everybody jumping up and down over Dubb and brining more attention to him. -Anxiety
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06-21-2006, 03:31 PM | #1111 | |
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06-21-2006, 03:32 PM | #1112 |
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Whelp, since Dubb is likely on the up and up, I'm moving back to another target that was briefly touched upon last night.
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06-21-2006, 03:33 PM | #1113 |
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I just got a call from a buddy of mine from Texas -- he's got a job interview here tomorrow, and he's flying in this evening around 6 PST. I'll probably not be around for the lynch, as we're going out to dinner. Should be around until about 4 or 5 though.
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06-21-2006, 03:37 PM | #1114 | |
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:Gives Vince a free glass of Kool-Aid:
"It's a wonder new invention of mine. I discovered the recipe while I was soothsaying around. Now I'd love to stay around and argue over who's bullshitting who, but I really need to get to this new eatery the Pharaoh opened called Red Lobster. I'll be back to argue semantics later."
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06-21-2006, 03:37 PM | #1115 | |
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The more I think about it, the more I realize that even if I was here I don't know what I would have done other than say "I don't think we should have a role reveal."
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06-21-2006, 03:43 PM | #1116 |
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Vote Bek
I don't like lynching new guys early, I want them to enjoy their first game, plus you can't assess their gaming style until you have some evidence, but I think its time to push Bek.
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06-21-2006, 03:43 PM | #1117 |
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So in my defense:
I hear what people are saying when they say that this game is different and taht the bad guys have a lack of knowledge just as the good guys do. And to this I sort of go: so what? Time and time again one strategy, and only 1 strategy, has proven effective at winning games for the humans: Circles of Trust. The look at Schmidty's game, where despite us nailing a whole bunch of bad guys we got killed. We got killed because we could not rely on the information we had. I am somewhat unapologetic about many role reveals if they allow us to start trusting people. I would love if there was another way for the good guys to win the game. But I don't see it. My actions are consistent throughout games: get information out there. And as has already been stated, the main thing I have tried to do this game is start discussion. In fact in many games I try and start discussion. Now some could argue that I might be trying to start discussion while avoiding certain points. With the exception of my list this morning, I don't think I've tried to steer anyone. I've put out questions. I have made points I think important about the rules. But I haven't tried to steer with that one exception. And even then I "steered" it towards half the players in the game. Hardly useful, as I even said at the time. When Coffee, I believe, disagreed with my list I didn't defned it too hard because it was of such limited use. And that, was my "steering" of the discussion. Finally for dubb: Yup I missed it. No doubt about it. But I've missed other stuff too. It's why I ask questions. So that's what I have to say. I don't really have anybody in mind today, I have more people who I do trust, rather than people who I don't trust. So I don't know where my vote is going. |
06-21-2006, 03:45 PM | #1118 |
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Gah, not much has been covered since I was last on. I have to work again today, but should be here for the deadline on thursday and friday.
I'm going to leave my vote on saldana since I don't really have any other feelings other than barkeep.
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06-21-2006, 03:45 PM | #1119 | |
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06-21-2006, 03:48 PM | #1120 |
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Bleh. For lack of better options right now. I'd rather keep the more talkative players in the game for entertainment and informational reasons.
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06-21-2006, 03:50 PM | #1121 |
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I thought he was new because I hadn't ever read a game with him.
I'm happier voting for him now, so thanks! I still want to push him, though, just to see what happens. Maybe he'll give those ideas, maybe not. -Anxiety
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06-21-2006, 03:51 PM | #1122 | |
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I have no idea. I don't think I make a very good lynch candidate, either. The only one I've really spoken out against is Barkeep, and I don't think he would really be blunt enough to go after me -- even though, I voted for him Day 1, didn't say anything about him Day 2, and I get attacked Night 2, then it's not until Day 3 that I vote for him again. Maybe it's another necro trying to cast suspicion on Barkeep? |
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06-21-2006, 03:52 PM | #1123 | |
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I meant assassination candidate, not lynch candidate. |
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06-21-2006, 03:52 PM | #1124 | |
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06-21-2006, 03:55 PM | #1126 |
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I think a lot of antagonist strategy in any game is to kill some randoms that cannot be connected to anyone. You winnow the herd while also getting a shot at hitting the important role players that stay silent early in teh game.
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06-21-2006, 04:00 PM | #1127 | |
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We disagree on what we disagree on. I disagree with you on the role reveal of the ruling class -- I *thought* you said you weren't pushing for the role reveal on the EG. And like I said, I don't think you'd kill me for it -- I just think you're the only person I've come even close to accusing. |
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06-21-2006, 04:06 PM | #1128 | |
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The strategy works too. It was what I was thinking during 26. You get rid of the players that aren't likely to tremendously impact the choice of the consensus target(s) during the day and that haven't fessed up to their roles yet, and then either let or provoke the talkative players into barking up the wrong tree a lot of the time, buying time to kill people at night. There is a reason why talkative players get left in the game sometimes. |
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06-21-2006, 04:12 PM | #1129 | |
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06-21-2006, 04:15 PM | #1130 | |
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Then, day 2, i neither am around or have any mention of cronin. I literally dont show up until 10 minutes till the deadline, making me silencing him or leading the charge to kil him utterly and entirely impossible....come on BK...
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06-21-2006, 04:19 PM | #1131 | |
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06-21-2006, 04:22 PM | #1132 | |
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Did I expect to survive an attack? No. From the rules, if one necro attacks solo, he has a 50% chance of making the kill. I assume I got lucky. |
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06-21-2006, 04:22 PM | #1133 |
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I'm going to be gone for at least a few hours, hope to be back in time for lynch tonight.
To get a vote in the meantime, I'm just going with the person who seems most suspicious, I don't have a lot of reasons but he does seem to know more about this game than he might for his experience level: Vote bulletsponge
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06-21-2006, 04:32 PM | #1134 |
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Blade: I didn't realize that Tom Brady was a votable offense. I wasn't trying to stretch there but with no explanation I didn't get what was happening.
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06-21-2006, 04:33 PM | #1135 |
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Can someone post a vote count? I think I'm in the lead but beyond that don't know where things lie. I've actually had to do some work at work this afternoon which has greatly interfered with my ability to be on top of this WW stuff
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06-21-2006, 04:33 PM | #1136 | |
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06-21-2006, 04:39 PM | #1138 | |
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06-21-2006, 04:41 PM | #1139 | |
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And I'm not such a fan of the Tom Brady jokes, either. Maybe I missed something that makes it really funny, but whatevs. |
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06-21-2006, 04:54 PM | #1140 | |
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well i do pm hoops to get answers to rules and other questions. and i have never played a game like this before. i dont have a leading canidate for my vote tonight so i will once again vote for payback Vote Path this vote is subject to change as last night |
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06-21-2006, 05:00 PM | #1141 |
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Let me do this before I post a new vote count. This thought was rattling around in my head before, but I think path is right about bullet. Someone screwed with cronin yesterday, along with our vote, and this is the best guess I have right now. Bek is just trying to get a quiet player to speak up.
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06-21-2006, 05:02 PM | #1142 |
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Bullet, i suggest you change that vote. Revenge is not a good motivation for votes in this game, especially when you are voting for a known good guy. Gotta kill bad guys and not kill good guys to win the game.
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06-21-2006, 05:06 PM | #1143 | |
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Word. That one almost slipped past my radar. I'm not convinced that the Pharoah has to be good, and even if he starts good, I'm assuming he can turn evil somehow. But still, with the ruling class and all, you CAN'T just vote for the Pharoah for no reason -- you've got to have SOME explanation! |
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06-21-2006, 05:06 PM | #1144 |
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Current votes:
Bek - 2: anxiety (1116), chubby (1106) Bullet - 2: path (1133), tyrith (1141) Barkeep - 2: pass (1053), saldana (1079) Saldana - 2: coffee (1112), king (1070) Dubb - 1: Alan (966) Tangle - 1: blade (1066) Path - 1: bullet (1140) Blade - 1: dubb (1098) Chubby - 1: lathum (1101) Tyrith - 1: sndvls (1084) |
06-21-2006, 05:11 PM | #1145 |
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No votes so far: barkeep, bek, qwikshot, schmidty, tanglewood
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06-21-2006, 05:16 PM | #1146 |
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right now my vote is wasted
unvote Tyrith vote Bek |
06-21-2006, 05:17 PM | #1147 |
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dola
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06-21-2006, 05:19 PM | #1148 |
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double dola - not a smart vote for path IMO
and didn't see his vote for path prior to my last change. |
06-21-2006, 05:20 PM | #1149 | |
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06-21-2006, 05:20 PM | #1150 | |
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How is a vote wasted, with the votes so spread out? I mean, with the leader at a whopping 2, you're already thinking it's time to join a bandwagon? One vote for Tyrith puts him in the lead. |
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