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Old 07-08-2007, 09:09 PM   #1101
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Path, do you really think that the wolves have basically just sat back and hoped that we would screw the game up for them as their strategy? That there have not been attempts to gain trust at some juncture?

Just as a good exercise in checking your assumptions, who do you think is a wolf if you accept that I'm not a wolf and that I'm pushing (again) in the wrong direction here?

It is sort of colored by today's vote, since up to now I've tended to think Barkeep was a villager. But to answer your question, I would look in the grouping of Chief/ntn/Ardent area.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:09 PM   #1102
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If you are a wolf I gave cover to a wolf moving off of you.

I don't buy that Pass is a wolf, nor that you are, so I am comfortable with your move from that perspective.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:10 PM   #1103
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I don't expect anything. We will all take a look at the results and see what shakes out. I already have in mind several moves in the past hour that says a lot about some suspicions I had.
I just can't believe that one of the most astute players around doesn't see how dire our situation is.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:12 PM   #1104
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So we have an hour and 20 minutes left and it looks like chief will have important vote, unless Render moves his off of me. No pressure Chief

Why do I keep thinking the deadline is 10:30? Crap. Catching up.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:14 PM   #1105
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I just can't believe that one of the most astute players around doesn't see how dire our situation is.

Our situation has been dire, BK. We can't be any more on the precipice than we already are. I believe both AE and hoopsguy are villagers. Path never had the votes--the one time we thought he did, it was a miscount by hoops. So a villager wass going to die today no matter what. If I do nothing, hoops dies and we learn nothing. If I try to switch to another candidate to see if we can get some revealing vote moves (which I think we most definitely did), we gain soemthing from what otherwise would be a worthless lynch.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:15 PM   #1106
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Wow, all nine players are in the room right now.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:15 PM   #1107
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So then why did you lead the charge onto Ardent?

I didn't want to appear to be avoiding this question, but my previous post tot his one essentially covers it.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:15 PM   #1108
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:15 PM   #1109
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Yeah, this game has completely taken me over as a WW fan. I used to think it was just an annoying post whoring plot, but damn if this isn't a blast =)
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:15 PM   #1110
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What tha???

DID I JUST GET AXED?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:16 PM   #1111
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DUDE, THAT'S BS!!!
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:16 PM   #1112
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DUDE, and I HAVE TOMORROW FOR TRAINING. That's going to suck mightily. How will I spend my time now?

THANKS FELLAS!
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:17 PM   #1113
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Another day passes, this time the conversations are just as heated, another potion is thrown and many of you feel just as lost and clueless as you started out as. Its very clear that your time is running out here, and you would give anything to be able to call upon the late school master's wisdom to help guide you today what to do.

All kind of verbal debate is thrown back and forth, with the attention going back and forth between Path, Lonestargirl, Hoopsguy and then suddenly Ardent. Finally, getting tired of all of the disagreement, Passacaglia once again takes a step forward with his backpack and reaches inside of it. Fully expecting yet another potion to be thrown by him, he instead pulls out a small knife that he must have picked up from nearby and stabs it directly into Ardent's gut. He twists the knife while watching Ardent's blank expression (almost as if he wasn't even here, but instead watching tv or something).

Finally Ardent collapses to the floor, and Passacaglia looks through his stuff... He sighs and stands up shrugging as if in defeat... Suddenly someone cries out, "Look.. his arm!".. You don't know how you missed it before, but on his arm suddenly is glowing a symbol, one you dare not describe.. a symbol of that of a person who was a member of the evil sect looking to kill you all.. Ardent apparently was not one of you, and thankfully is now dead.

Day 4 is now over. Night time has begun. Deadline is 9am EST tommorrow morning. Please by this time PM me with which room you wish to spend tonight in as well as any night actions you may have, or magical items that you may have with a night time usage property.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:17 PM   #1114
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Sorry Ardent
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:17 PM   #1115
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:17 PM   #1116
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NICE!!!!
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:17 PM   #1117
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Well that feels good.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:18 PM   #1118
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Thanks LSG.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:18 PM   #1119
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oh wow
we just got lucky as hell
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:18 PM   #1120
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I guess in the end I feel better about you than ardent though we both know, I think, that path is the evil one in this game .

So, so wrong.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:18 PM   #1121
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Let me be the first to apologize, AE. It was I who led this charge. I had good reason, but I doubt you would like it. IT really didn't have much to do with your goodness or evilness.

It would help tons, though, if you're a wolf.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:18 PM   #1122
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oh wow
we just got lucky as hell
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:18 PM   #1123
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Our situation has been dire, BK. We can't be any more on the precipice than we already are. I believe both AE and hoopsguy are villagers. Path never had the votes--the one time we thought he did, it was a miscount by hoops. So a villager wass going to die today no matter what. If I do nothing, hoops dies and we learn nothing. If I try to switch to another candidate to see if we can get some revealing vote moves (which I think we most definitely did), we gain soemthing from what otherwise would be a worthless lynch.

why are you so convinced this was a worthless lynch. I agree that AE wasnt my first choice but he was pretty far up there.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:19 PM   #1124
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Heh, someone is getting the mercury I passed back to Ardent today I figured if he passed it to me then the wolves must not need it all that much.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:19 PM   #1125
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Ardent you played a great wolf... good game
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:20 PM   #1126
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woohoo! nice going y'all. This gives us a touch of room, we still have our work cut out for us though.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:20 PM   #1127
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Just a note, I have a few daytime Pms that did not impact the lynch or lynch decision that I need to process real quick now. They will be assumed to have happened before the lynch for game purposes however.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:20 PM   #1128
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UNVOTE HOOPS
VOTE ARDENT

What the hell?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:20 PM   #1129
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why are you so convinced this was a worthless lynch. I agree that AE wasnt my first choice but he was pretty far up there.

Because I didn't think he was a wolf. At least no more than I felt about any of the other top candidates. I didn't vote for him to prove he's a wolf. I voted for him to screw with the wolves' minds.

And it worked.

The fact AE actually is a wolf is just a tremendously incredible bonus.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:21 PM   #1130
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Ardent you played a great wolf... good game

So are you voting for me again tomorrow? Just curious ...
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:21 PM   #1131
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Man, I am so pumped! Can you feel it, village?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:21 PM   #1132
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Let me be the first to apologize, AE. It was I who led this charge. I had good reason, but I doubt you would like it. IT really didn't have much to do with your goodness or evilness.

It would help tons, though, if you're a wolf.

lol...okay, thanks for being a wolf.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:22 PM   #1133
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Everyone, I want to thank you for the great game and never seriously considering me a bad guy. It was refreshing. Seriously. Unfortunately, it came at a time when I was genuinely a bad guy. Fortunately, I only had one bad dream this entire time.

My schedule, honestly, was the truth. It's been pretty crazy. The only reason I'm here temporarily as I put it...my wife's got the 4400 on pause right now so she can go wash her hair and let it dry during the remainder.

I never lied about my schedule. It's been crazy and will continue to be as my company has me going everywhere in a 100 mile radius of my home.

Good thing they're paying for the car and gas.

Again, thanks, and good luck to the good and bad guys. It was fun.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:22 PM   #1134
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Sorry Ardent


Why? he was EEEVIL!
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:22 PM   #1135
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Given the two late switches, I wonder if the wolves didn't all unite on me but still were spread out. I'm guessing this is a topic best left for tomorrow, but I want to come back to it at some point.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:23 PM   #1136
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I'll be curious to discuss with people after the game if the feel my move on to ardent was the right thing in that situation. I'm still not convinced it was.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:23 PM   #1137
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My top candidate: Render.

When the AE thing started to role forward, he tried to put the nail in hoops' coffin by switching to him.

After that, tougher to say. I will need to do more analysis.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:24 PM   #1138
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I hope this isn't changing gears too much from our celebration, but it looks like that eternal bond potion didn't do anything.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:25 PM   #1139
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Tomorrow, fwiw, will be a day of me programming an air conditioning controller (VAV, variable air volume). I have to send my code to some guy somewhere who will grade it.

In the past I spent 6 hours here and 2 hours on the work. Now I guess I have 8 fulls hours to devote.

Thanks for the fun, it was enjoyable.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:25 PM   #1140
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(4) Hoopsguy - Path (842), Lonestargirl (925), ardent (973), Render (1026)
(5) Ardent - Chief Rum (1006), Hoopsguy (1014), Ntndeacon (1015), Barkeep (1058), Passacaglia (1071)

Official final vote count
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:25 PM   #1141
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Everyone, I want to thank you for the great game and never seriously considering me a bad guy. It was refreshing. Seriously. Unfortunately, it came at a time when I was genuinely a bad guy. Fortunately, I only had one bad dream this entire time.

My schedule, honestly, was the truth. It's been pretty crazy. The only reason I'm here temporarily as I put it...my wife's got the 4400 on pause right now so she can go wash her hair and let it dry during the remainder.

I never lied about my schedule. It's been crazy and will continue to be as my company has me going everywhere in a 100 mile radius of my home.

Good thing they're paying for the car and gas.

Again, thanks, and good luck to the good and bad guys. It was fun.
FTR I never doubted your schedule. Just the way you voted with-in that schedule
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:26 PM   #1142
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Man, action packed ending. I'm feeling much better about Chief, obviously.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:26 PM   #1143
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Everyone, I want to thank you for the great game and never seriously considering me a bad guy. It was refreshing. Seriously. Unfortunately, it came at a time when I was genuinely a bad guy. Fortunately, I only had one bad dream this entire time.

My schedule, honestly, was the truth. It's been pretty crazy. The only reason I'm here temporarily as I put it...my wife's got the 4400 on pause right now so she can go wash her hair and let it dry during the remainder.

I never lied about my schedule. It's been crazy and will continue to be as my company has me going everywhere in a 100 mile radius of my home.

Good thing they're paying for the car and gas.

Again, thanks, and good luck to the good and bad guys. It was fun.

Yeah, there have been a lot of schedule jokes, but I for one never doubted you have just been tremendously busy. You have never been the type to lie period (I found you to be brutally honest, if not in a Hell Atlantic sorta way), much less lie for advantage in a silly online game. I wouldn't think for a seocnd you would lie about outside of the game stuff.

Well played, and I wish I had actually "sniffed" you out. In actuality, we just got lucky.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:31 PM   #1144
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He twists the knife while watching Ardent's blank expression (almost as if he wasn't even here, but instead watching tv or something)

In all the excitement, we may have glazed over this sentence. Brilliant,Alan!
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:32 PM   #1145
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I'm going to try to do some analysis tonight. I think it's likely I will be dead in the morning.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:32 PM   #1146
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Good luck to all of ya. Back to the 4400, wife's back. Don't tell me how it ends.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:34 PM   #1147
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I'm going to try to do some analysis tonight. I think it's likely I will be dead in the morning.

Will be interesting - they have some choices to make tonight that probably won't be possession-driven.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:35 PM   #1148
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I think another person we need to look at is LSG. She's been railing into hoops for a while now, and he's really gone up in my estimation.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:35 PM   #1149
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Man, action packed ending. I'm feeling much better about Chief, obviously.

Why are you feeling better about chief? He voted for ardent when it looked like he had nobody following him. Tomorrow we should look at Render and C.R.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:36 PM   #1150
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Man, action packed ending. I'm feeling much better about Chief, obviously.

I am not. he admits he was throwing a lone vote out there on someone he believed to be good. In fact iwill go as far to say that there was little improvement of trust values for all of us who voted for AE...(even though we got a wolf) Barkeep and Pass were already thought of as good by most. Chief's own admission of his belief of AE's goodness. It could be said hoops was saving his skin. and it looks as if I was just following hoops lead.
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