WW LXVI: Money Money Money (Game Over!)

[Tyrith]

I was refreshing literally every 3 seconds or so, and I had a tabbed browser set up to cast those votes, and he timed it so well that as soon as I saw it, clicked over to the next screen and hit post it was 901. Darnit darnit darnit, I should have KNOWN better than to wait.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Pass, you wolf bastard, that was too excellently done.

Hey, I'm just trying to save myself. I don't know why you guys are all on me.

[SnDvls]

well I think we got a nice circle of trust out of pass the wolf though for at least a day

[claphamsa]

well thats a first....

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Hey, I'm just trying to save myself. I don't know why you guys are all on me.

That's a wolf play and you know it. A really well executed play, though. Sigh, how much timing practice did you go through to pull that off?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

I was refreshing literally every 3 seconds or so, and I had a tabbed browser set up to cast those votes, and he timed it so well that as soon as I saw it, clicked over to the next screen and hit post it was 901. Darnit darnit darnit, I should have KNOWN better than to wait.

I was surprised you waited, too. I half expected to find that you just said 'screw it' and vote for me extra times anyway, with the witch hunt you have on me.

[DaddyTorgo]

MOTHERFUCKING HELL YOU WOLFY BASTARD!!!

well done with the snipe

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

That's a wolf play and you know it. A really well executed play, though. Sigh, how much timing practice did you go through to pull that off?

I could see it as either a wolf move, or the move of a villager just trying to keep himself alive.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I was surprised you waited, too. I half expected to find that you just said 'screw it' and vote for me extra times anyway, with the witch hunt you have on me.

I figured that if I waited you have enough cash to come over the top on me, seeing that this play was probably deliberately rigged the entire day.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

I figured that if I waited you have enough cash to come over the top on me, seeing that this play was probably deliberately rigged the entire day.

No -- I wasn't lying when I said I would be out during deadline. Otherwise, I wouldn't have wasted my first vote earlier. I went out to the bar with some people I used to work with, then was going to go out to dinner with my wife, but she was tired, and I was more than happy to not go and catch my deadline.

[Tyrith]

And I believe you, and the good guys got extremely unlucky for it. Probably.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

That's a wolf play and you know it. A really well executed play, though. Sigh, how much timing practice did you go through to pull that off?

Actually, I didn't practice the timing. I went to a web site with the official time that I had to refresh, and posted with something like 10 seconds left. Thanks to Barkeep for the Survivor game which made me learn about it in the first place!

[claphamsa]

ha! where is BK?

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I could see it as either a wolf move, or the move of a villager just trying to keep himself alive.

total wolf move


no villager who is playing as a team makes this move.

[SnDvls]

well so based on pass today and the fact that none of his wolf buddies even came to help him I think we can get a pretty good read on at least the original wolves.

[Lorena]

[claphamsa]

saldana?

[Barkeep49]

Despite some late attempts to convince him otherwise Pass suddenly found his suppliers unwilling to supply them. He simply didn't have the money he once had and couldn't call in the favors he'd hoped to sway influence otherwise. You are sure that you have nailed your first Cutthroat after that move. Of that there can be no doubt. Schmidty would have been the beneficiary had there been any benefit to Pass's demise other than getting rid of such a gauche presence.

In the world of bidding the following bids won:
Friend of the Bank: 5000
Wiretapper: 66,000
Financial Analyst: 10107
Notary Public 25005

Final vote count:
Render – Chief Rum (845)
Chief Rum – Render (848), Mr. W (1045), Clap (1066)
Hoopsguy – Schmidty (854)
Pass – Alan (872), Tyrith (998), Hoops (1053), Daddy T (1069)
Tyrith – Pass (1023)
The Jackal – SnDvls (1047)

[claphamsa]

wow... so none of those votes couted?

[DaddyTorgo]

WTF?

so did Pass not have the $$ to do that?

[SnDvls]

so he passed all his money away and made a bunch of fake votes to try and get someone else to waste their money and I believe Tyrith is a likely target tonght unless he put in the big bid for today.

[SnDvls]

barkeep double check your vote count you have pass voting for himself

[claphamsa]

was he out of money? or just late. sooooo confused!

Michgan sucks ass!

[Barkeep49]

Did I miss the votes from Jackal, Hoops, and Wednesday in my count? I've had a little to drink...

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

barkeep double check your vote count you have pass voting for himself

That explains hoops. How about Mr. W and Jackal?

Originally Posted by claphamsa

was he out of money? or just late. sooooo confused!

Michgan sucks ass!

No money

[claphamsa]

me 2!

[claphamsa]

66K for the wiretapper? jesus!

[DaddyTorgo]

aaaah. I see. So their plan was to try to get someone with $$ to basically reveal themselves.

hopefully tyrith has his $$ in the bank where the wolves can't get at it if they kill him. Although I guess they'd just convert him.

May I suggest Tyrith that while you are still on the side of good you tell Mr. W where the $$ is at so that the thief can rob you of it immediately?

[SnDvls]

not sure on Mr. W but Jackal hasn't been in the thread all game

and no vote for "Arles" too

[Barkeep49]

Since no replacement could be found, Arles has simply been removed from the game. As his beneficiary is also dead (path) his money has been removed as well

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

66K for the wiretapper? jesus!

it's really not that bad if the bid are high tomorrow

he got $21 K tonight along back for all the bids

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Since no replacement could be found, Arles has simply been removed from the game. As his beneficiary is also dead (path) his money has been removed as well

good my worry was that the wolves would take him out for an easy money gain hench my rant the other day.

[SnDvls]

dola - but I didnt' want to say it out loud and give the wolves an idea either

[Mr. Wednesday]

Barkeep, you did miss my vote.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, I voted Chief Rum in 1045.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Regarding anyone's dispensation of money... you only need to worry about money on-hand, which will go to the cutthroats if killed. Stuff in the bank will go to your beneficiary, and then the only question is how much you trust your beneficiary.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

Barkeep, you did miss my vote.

Thanks. Please add 15k to your on hand money from the PM you recieved.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I think we should go ahead with the thief-plan since Mr. W is basically offering it. As hoops stated, he'd like to see someone other than me on the end of it...I'm open to anyone. And I should be around pretty much all night.

I don't have any real thoughts on who to vote for yet.

Wait a moment, I missed that. Why doesn't he want you on the end of it?

I actually think that the way to go might be to pick the person that we think is the most likely to be a bad dude, assume that any ill-gotten cash is on-hand rather than in the bank, and try to steal from their on-hand money. At worst, I might force them to move the money into the bank where the friend of the bank can see it.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Dola, to make that clearer, suppose I pick a "suspect" and try to steal on-hand cash.

If they're a wolf — either I pick off some nice wolf cash or they have to move it to the bank, where the friend of the bank can see it.

If they're not a wolf — they shouldn't have any significant cash on hand (aside from maybe salary) and the dangerous thief is burned.

[DaddyTorgo]

that makes sense Weds. Go for it! woohoo!

[Tyrith]

I have no more money than the next guy. I'm guessing most of us are swimming in it at this point. Although a move like that, I have to say, is uncool IMO.

[Barkeep49]

Ok so the Night 4 deadline will be Sunday at 11 AM. After that we'll go into a long Day 5.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Any thoughts on who would be best for me to try to pick off?

Originally Posted by Tyrith

I have no more money than the next guy. I'm guessing most of us are swimming in it at this point. Although a move like that, I have to say, is uncool IMO.

What's the context for this comment?

[hoopsguy]

Nice, glad to see that I got something right this game.

MrW, my concern with using the Thief on DT earlier in the day was concern about potential collusion - the guy asking for the service to be burned should not be the one verifying it was burned. Probably paranoia, but I didn't have much of a feel for DT at that time he started asking questions.

Targets - does it make sense to discuss them when they can still put in a night order re: money location?

BK - are you going to reveal the starting faction of the player (Arles) who was removed from the game?

[DaddyTorgo]

well you have plenty of time to ponder it apparently Weds.

[Tyrith]

I'd be interested in opinions on chief rum right now.

Context was the discussion of me getting converted, Mr.W.

[hoopsguy]

I've trusted Rum more than the norm this game. I don't think he comes gunning for me on Days 1 and 2, then backs off when he can sweep the leg on Day 3, if he is playing as a bad guy.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I've trusted Rum more than the norm this game. I don't think he comes gunning for me on Days 1 and 2, then backs off when he can sweep the leg on Day 3, if he is playing as a bad guy.

Well, the main thing is that he was the guy that Pass chose as his vote target, and I was wondering if you thought that meant anything.

[The Jackal]

Sorry all, this is the first time I've been home since this morning. I ended up having to work late and then going straight to see my friend. Thanks for not voting me off when I wasn't around to talk, and damn good job nailing a cutthroat.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Another thing that is buggging me about Chief Rum is here he says that hopefully today whoever got the seer service will step forward. Technically he says so far no seer has stepped forward but hopefully today that will be different. Why would you want the seer to come forward today? Whomever won the Private Investigator last night has it for last night and tonight.. Why would they out themselves today with no bodyguard to bid on today?

Huh? I haven't won the PI, so I don't know exactly how it works, but maybe you haven't won a service at all and don't know anything about how this works? Unless the role states it is more than a one day purchase (like Wednesday's Thief service), you pretty much use it the night after you buy it. So whoever won the PI yesterday already used it and received the results. I am espousing the same point hoops has been pushing from Day One--the seer needs to come out and let us know what he/she finds out.

Am I missing something or are you?

And I say today because no one has yet come forward on previous days. I assume if they haven't come out before now, they probably won't come out now either. But there is always hope on a new day that the previous day's PI winner will see the logic in hoops' strategy and come out.