Werewolf: The Rebirth (Game Over! Thank you for playing)

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

We wouldn't really be breaking new ground here. Although feasting on the fallen would not provide us with water.

Anyone with cajun cooking experience?

"Donner, party of five?"

[ntndeacon]

And I suspect if the medical facility isn't built before that impending bullmoose hits us then we may be in for a world of hurt!

[ntndeacon]

Vote work on next project

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

The fact that Schmidty was killed under the care of the Chief and Autumn makes them appear more likely to be who they say they are. This seems to be a ploy to make it harder for us to heal injured people by having early mistrust head to those that treated him.

Yes because people with experience of medicines and whatnot would just strangle him painting a big sign on themselves rather than killing him surreptiously. Or, indeed, not at all.

I for one think the murderer should step forward so we can give them a medal. Who hasn't wanted to throttle a reality star.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Yes because people with experience of medicines and whatnot would just strangle him painting a big sign on themselves rather than killing him surreptiously. Or, indeed, not at all.

I for one think the murderer should step forward so we can give them a medal. Who hasn't wanted to throttle a reality star.

Reality star with a sex tape scandal...

Are we certain this isn't a case of autoerotique asphyxiation?

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

Reality star with a sex tape scandal...

Are we certain this isn't a case of autoerotique asphyxiation?

Schmidty was David Carradine?

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Day Two Options

fontisian as leader may decide:
- who works on Schmidty
- who works in the science research center (these resources will be pulled away from the colony resources and can begin their own projects on day three)

the colony must decide
- Next project (Government, Medical Facility, fix communicator)
- Action (Collect supplies from supply drop, Work on next project, Explore the Surface)


Day Two has begun, deadline is 10 PM EST Thursday.

SciCtr workers: defer to Font
Project: Medical Center
Action: Collect Supplies

I still want a government, but getting a medical center up and running would give us some cushion in keeping people alive--as it appeared that CR and Autumn's assistance wasn't worth much to Schmidty in their current working environment.

That said, let's get our dumb supplies together! (I'm under the impression that they're from our mission.)

[Shoveler]

The folks that keep pushing us away from government for the past two days should make the short (probably long) list of potential suspects. Especially those that have been using previous game reasons for other facilities first.

Our suspect probably wants us to delay on giving our Sheriff additional abilities. Delaying this selection longer is just enabling further catastrophe.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by JAG

FWIW, I have mild mistrust in all leaders based on brit's comments about an attempt to buy support for his getting a leadership position, so that includes CR.

Wait, I missed this. So brit was contacted by PM by someone who bribed him to help them get a leadership position?

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wait, I missed this. So brit was contacted by PM by someone who bribed him to help them get a leadership position?

No. Brit said he had the offer to enhance his own vote in order to sabotage the radios or something.

[Grover]

Making it clear that someone ehanced one of their votes somewhere to win a position. The trade-off was that they disabled the communications system.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wait, I missed this. So brit was contacted by PM by someone who bribed him to help them get a leadership position?

He was given an opportunity to protect his shady police background by destroying the communications equipment.

Doing so would have removed one vote for him as Sheriff.

He apparently declined.

Or at least that is his story.

[Chief Rum]

So brit's ability was to disable the communications equipment in said scenario?

Someone paint this one by numbers for me, the proposed order of events, with who is doing the deed at each point. I am trying to see how this implicates the leaders, and I can't quite get there with what you guys have given me so far.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

He was given an opportunity to protect his shady police background by destroying the communications equipment.

Doing so would have removed one vote for him as Sheriff.

He apparently declined.

Or at least that is his story.

We cannot discount the possibility that he is lying, and was given a different opportunity to manipulate the vote if he accepted.

And therefore is pushing suspicion into a completely separate area of the leadership vote.

But I am just speculating. There is no proof beside his admission to receiving an offer.

[Grover]

But the proof that someone did alter the votes in exchange for disabling the communications systems was in DanGarion quoting EF and wondering why he had 7 votes but only 6 were counted for the leader vote on Day 0.

So whether it was britrock or someone else, the communications systems were tampered with in order to enhance someone's leadership vote.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Grover

Making it clear that someone ehanced one of their votes somewhere to win a position. The trade-off was that they disabled the communications system.

There were only a position or two where the votes didn't add up. Were those positions close? That would seem to be who we should be targeting then.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

So brit's ability was to disable the communications equipment in said scenario?

Someone paint this one by numbers for me, the proposed order of events, with who is doing the deed at each point. I am trying to see how this implicates the leaders, and I can't quite get there with what you guys have given me so far.

Well, the communication was broken and there was a weird vote count on DanGarion for leader. So it stands to reason that someone who was up for the vote on day zero tried to give themselves a better chance to win. It doesn't necessarily mean a leader did it though.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

So brit's ability was to disable the communications equipment in said scenario?

Someone paint this one by numbers for me, the proposed order of events, with who is doing the deed at each point. I am trying to see how this implicates the leaders, and I can't quite get there with what you guys have given me so far.

Brit claims he was given an offer to disable the communications equipment, but declined. Therefore, as the communications equipment was damaged, we can assume someone took a similar offer.

The only person after the day 0 vote that had a reduction to their votes was DanGarion. Using Brit's information, you would either have to assume that DanGarion was given that same offer, or someone else was given a different version of that offer that allowed them to remove a vote from someone else.

That's about it.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Looking at the votes... there was one vote lost in the DanGarion leader tally, and one extra vote with Shoveler on the doctor poll.

Now, I have some thoughts regarding the dropped vote. I was given an offer to sabotage some of our equipment in order to protect my reputation in exchange for my vote strength in my candidacy for sheriff. ...I'm curious to know if Dan was so eager to become our leader--without letting us discover the full extent of his background--that he would have been willing to take such an offer, if he received one...

Here's one Chief.

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

There were only a position or two where the votes didn't add up. Were those positions close? That would seem to be who we should be targeting then.

I think it was 24 hours or so before the final vote that he was offered and he lost his voting power in the category he was going after if he did so.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Well, the communication was broken and there was a weird vote count on DanGarion for leader. So it stands to reason that someone who was up for the vote on day zero tried to give themselves a better chance to win. It doesn't necessarily mean a leader did it though.

Exactly. If anything, it might implicate DanGarion. Or someone else in the Leader race.

I am not sure how the other leaders would be implicated by that at all.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by britrock88

JAG, The offer came to me from EF ~24 hours before the end of D0 last night. I could have sabotaged the radio (hmm...) to prevent the rest of the crew from asking about my background.

Autumn, I've alluded to the reputational issues before... I was a very capable police officer, but perhaps too eager in applying my physicality. In response to the offer, I decided I would be forthright about it here. I refused the offer and did not lose my vote for sheriff.

Timmae, it was EF that made the offer, not a fellow crewmember. But what this vote total likely indicates is that someone with aspirations to be the crew leader was willing to sabotage our communications to try to cement his status and reputation. And, looking at the list, DanGarion seems the likeliest person to have done that.

Another.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by timmae

We also need to collect supplies in order to have food. Rick Flair, Brit, Jag and Crim are capable of physical tasks. Should 3 build the dome and the other gather supplies?

Font should have these youngins a gatherin.

[Zinto]

I almost think it is counterproductive to try and figure out who is the cause of anything at this point. We have no way of proving it or ridding ourselves of them currently. We should focus on how we are going to make our colony run most effectively and our best option to survive.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

There were only a position or two where the votes didn't add up. Were those positions close? That would seem to be who we should be targeting then.

See post #712.

[Chief Rum]

Thanks for the post ups, guys. My main point stands. The suspicion of other leaders or players not involved in the leader race is unfounded.

[Zinto]

Just based on the information Brit gave us I would assume that the person who sabotaged the communications wanted to be the leader and ended up voting for DanGarion. But once again I don't think this is the point we should be arguing today. We need to focus on survival for now.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Thanks for the post ups, guys. My main point stands. The suspicion of other leaders or players not involved in the leader race is unfounded.

I have to disagree. My PI instincts lead me to believe we have been manipulated from the get-go and our suspect wants us to be pointing the finger at the obvious leader candidates. While we can't rule our leader candidates out, I think there is a good argument that this suspect may have had an interest in another area of leadership.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by timmae

See post #712.

Shoveler looks bad there. He has a vote in the shortened vote list for Dangarion as Leader, and he's the one linked to the extra Doctor vote in that post.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Zinto

Just based on the information Brit gave us I would assume that the person who sabotaged the communications wanted to be the leader and ended up voting for DanGarion. But once again I don't think this is the point we should be arguing today. We need to focus on survival for now.

Very good point. Someone that put themselves out for another position, or no position and voted for DanGarion for leader.

I had not considered this.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Shoveler looks bad there. He has a vote in the shortened vote list for Dangarion as Leader, and he's the one linked to the extra Doctor vote in that post.

My No-votes are extra potent.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

I have to disagree. My PI instincts lead me to believe we have been manipulated from the get-go and our suspect wants us to be pointing the finger at the obvious leader candidates. While we can't rule our leader candidates out, I think there is a good argument that this suspect may have had an interest in another area of leadership.

I agree with you up until the last sentence. I don't see the connection there to other leaders. It could be for the benefit of the stowaway, who has his own goals obviously, and he could be anyone. Or be a part of the individual goals I presume we all received (there is ample evidence for that). There's no reason to think the other leaders are any more or less suspicious than the other non-leader candidates.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

My No-votes are extra potent.

For the record, I don't think you're actually someone to target here, or not yet. I just find it curious.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I agree with you up until the last sentence. I don't see the connection there to other leaders. It could be for the benefit of the stowaway, who has his own goals obviously, and he could be anyone. Or be a part of the individual goals I presume we all received (there is ample evidence for that). There's no reason to think the other leaders are any more or less suspicious than the other non-leader candidates.

I'm not suggesting that we only look at the leadership roles, I just don't think we can narrow down to the leader candidates.

[Shoveler]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

For the record, I don't think you're actually someone to target here, or not yet. I just find it curious.

Well that makes two of us.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

I'm not suggesting that we only look at the leadership roles, I just don't think we can narrow down to the leader candidates.

I agree we shouldn't rule anyone else out, and shouldn't just focus on crew leader candidates. I was just trying to figure out JAG's suspicion of other leaders in other areas. I don't see how he equates those positions as being more suspicious than anyone else outside of the crew leader candidates.

[GoldenEagle]

I should definitely work in the science and research center. I am not sure if I have made this abundantly clear, but I am the best at a combo of science and engineering that we have among us.

[Shoveler]

Using Zinto's logic about the DanGarion leadership vote:

1. DanGarion sabotaged his own vote to protect his identity.
or...
2. One of our other members is not who they say they are:

a. Scientist: Narcizo, Sharkn20
b. Engineer: Grover, CrimsonFox
c. Doctor: Chief Rum
d. Sheriff: Shoveler

Aptitude testing time.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Shoveler

Using Zinto's logic about the DanGarion leadership vote:

1. DanGarion sabotaged his own vote to protect his identity.
or...
2. One of our other members is not who they say they are:

a. Scientist: Narcizo, Sharkn20
b. Engineer: Grover, CrimsonFox
c. Doctor: Chief Rum
d. Sheriff: Shoveler

Aptitude testing time.

Unfortunately, I did not have the offer to change a vote. I did have the option of going out to scavenge on my own, but the chance of not coming back at all was too great a risk for me to take.

[Chief Rum]

I have only received normal deadline PMs from EF. No offers to do anything here.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by Grover

Unfortunately, I did not have the offer to change a vote. I did have the option of going out to scavenge on my own, but the chance of not coming back at all was too great a risk for me to take.

One has to wonder how many other "offers" were out there... I'm starting to not trust anyone around here. To the science center we go boys... Golden, you can come to!

[timmae]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I should definitely work in the science and research center. I am not sure if I have made this abundantly clear, but I am the best at a combo of science and engineering that we have among us.

Hey bud... What kind of computer programming were you doing? Any specifics you can share?

[Zinto]

Originally Posted by timmae

One has to wonder how many other "offers" were out there... I'm starting to not trust anyone around here. To the science center we go boys... Golden, you can come to!

You are starting to get werewolf now

[timmae]

Originally Posted by timmae

Font: I recommend that the following people head over to the science research facility in order of preference so that you may determine how many we want to send. timmae, Narcizo, Raven, SharkN20

Change to recommended group... timmae, Raven, GoldenEagle

At least until I obtain some feedback on Shark and Narc.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by Zinto

You are starting to get werewolf now

ha! I'm kinda stuck in my old D&D mode and I am not sure how much the ad lib nature plays here. Having a blast so far though!

[Grover]

I'm also wondering how wise it was for me to divulge that information, same as britrock saying he got an offer to do this or that.

As a new player: is something like that in the general spirit of the game?

[timmae]

Originally Posted by timmae

EF to confirm but the collecting supplies we are discussing right now is our supply drop that happened immediately preceding our landing on Mars. Not the previous landing attempt.

EF has confirmed this is accurate. The supplies we are voting on getting was from our mission, not the prior landing mission.

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by timmae

Hey bud... What kind of computer programming were you doing? Any specifics you can share?

I don't think it is my best interest to share the specifics at this time. I have a reason for going on this mission and those are related to my skills, but that is all I am willing to say at this moment.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by timmae

EF has confirmed this is accurate. The supplies we are voting on getting was from our mission, not the prior landing mission.

Correct

[EagleFan]

Catching up. Will have vote count updates in about an hour.