Official 2011-12 College Basketball Thread

[bhlloy]

ugly last possession right there

[DataKing]

YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sterlingice]

If all goes according to plan, we'll see you all again in 2 weeks for the rubber match

SI

[cartman]

Just to be clear, did that qualify as a "helluva collapse" by Mizzou? I'm still a bit unclear on just what has to happen to invoke that term.

In other Big 12 news, Texas played about as bad a half of basketball as I've ever seen them play, and are lucky to escape with an OT win against Tech.

[MrBug708]

Unless Kansas State makes one side of the bracket

[panerd]

Originally Posted by cartman

Just to be clear, did that qualify as a "helluva collapse" by Mizzou? I'm still a bit unclear on just what has to happen to invoke that term.

In other Big 12 news, Texas played about as bad a half of basketball as I've ever seen them play, and are lucky to escape with an OT win against Tech.

Good luck in the NIT!

[panerd]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

If all goes according to plan, we'll see you all again in 2 weeks for the rubber match

SI

Great game. Not sure my heart can take another game.

[MizzouRah]

HAHA.. the fouls called in that second half were laughable at best.. whatever.

I guess when you run someone over, but block a shot that's fine, but when you run someone over and make a basket, that's a foul on the guy who was ran over.

Those last 5 minutes of reffing is the reason why I just don't get into basketball besides watching Mizzou or playing a text sim .

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

If all goes according to plan, we'll see you all again in 2 weeks for the rubber match

SI

Yeah, I'd say that worked out about how it was supposed to. Definitely some rough calls in Columbia down the stretch to allow KU to lose that game. Same situation in Lawrence with some phantom fouls down the stretch that had a lot of people scratching their heads.

A rematch would be fantastic. I'll be there for that one if it happens. Thankfully, it appears that Mizzou will likely face nothing but B12 South teams in the first and second rounds with KU having both KSU and ISU on their half of the bracket.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Unless Kansas State makes one side of the bracket

Iowa State also has the ability to make noise and, of course, Baylor is the giant stumbling block that makes me happy to be the #1 seed going in so we don't have to face them until the final, if we did.

SI

[panerd]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

HAHA.. the fouls called in that second half were laughable at best.. whatever.

I guess when you run someone over, but block a shot that's fine, but when you run someone over and make a basket, that's a foul on the guy who was ran over.

Those last 5 minutes of reffing is the reason why I just don't get into basketball besides watching Mizzou.

Yeah the phantom foul on Pressey at the end of OT was pretty out there but we got some questionable calls a few weeks ago. Just hope KU fans realize this.

PS: Crowd sure seemed intense for a non-rivalry. Kudos to the Kansas governor for calling for the end of this series. Can't wait to watch TCU/KU give us a game like this next season.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Iowa State also has the ability to make noise and, of course, Baylor is the giant stumbling block that makes me happy to be the #1 seed going in so we don't have to face them until the final, if we did.

SI

I'll take Baylor over ISU/KSU in Kansas City anyday.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by panerd

Good luck in the NIT!

Mizzou has been to the NIT 5 times since Texas last went in 1985. If Texas doesn't make it into March Madness, have any NIT tips you'd like to share?

[RedKingGold]

Since when did panerd become MBBF's ball washer?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by cartman

Mizzou has been to the NIT 5 times since Texas last went in 1985. If Texas doesn't make it into March Madness, have any NIT tips you'd like to share?

I was just pleased the MU/KU game wasn't on the Longhorn Network so more than five people could watch it.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by cartman

Mizzou has been to the NIT 5 times since Texas last went in 1985. If Texas doesn't make it into March Madness, have any NIT tips you'd like to share?

LOL. Can't wait until KU's and K-States anger gets directed at the right group when UT bolts at the first opportunity for "greener pastures". I will take the football/basketball sweep on our way out the door. On to baseball?

[panerd]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Since when did panerd become MBBF's ball washer?

Nah. The "innocent" posts about Mizzou by MBBF's enemies actually piss off some of the other Mizzou fans here as well. And while I like Cartman quite a bit the arrogance of the Texas fanbase as a whole makes it real easy to justify responding.

[Scoobz0202]

Any Michigan fans want to bicker incessantly with me? I feel like I'm missing something.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by panerd

LOL. Can't wait until KU's and K-States anger gets directed at the right group when UT bolts at the first opportunity for "greener pastures". I will take the football/basketball sweep on our way out the door. On to baseball?

We know that this is really about Texas and their inability to share. But the 100+ year old rivalry isn't with them, it's with Mizzou.

To use a fairly bad analogy, yeah, he may be the guy you cheated with but the relationship isn't with him so you have to expect the vitriol is going to be directed at you.

SI

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by panerd

Nah. The "innocent" posts about Mizzou by MBBF's enemies actually piss off some of the other Mizzou fans here as well. And while I like Cartman quite a bit the arrogance of the Texas fanbase as a whole makes it real easy to justify responding.

MBBF's enemies...haha

[panerd]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

MBBF's enemies...haha

Couldn't think of a better word. Wasn't sure what the plural was for nemesis.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Since when did panerd become MBBF's ball washer?

.. and you Cartman's?

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by panerd

Yeah the phantom foul on Pressey at the end of OT was pretty out there but we got some questionable calls a few weeks ago. Just hope KU fans realize this.

PS: Crowd sure seemed intense for a non-rivalry. Kudos to the Kansas governor for calling for the end of this series. Can't wait to watch TCU/KU give us a game like this next season.

The crowd for both games was surreal..

It just pisses me off the way basketball games are called within the last 5 minutes, really takes away from an otherwise terrific game.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Any Michigan fans want to bicker incessantly with me? I feel like I'm missing something.

At least Michigan got it back to being tied.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by panerd

Nah. The "innocent" posts about Mizzou by MBBF's enemies actually piss off some of the other Mizzou fans here as well. And while I like Cartman quite a bit the arrogance of the Texas fanbase as a whole makes it real easy to justify responding.

So you are pissed off about MBBF's posts as well? Because "helluva collapse" is a direct quote from him.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I was just pleased the MU/KU game wasn't on the Longhorn Network so more than five people could watch it.

I guess those five people must be the Illuminati, based on how much belly aching there was over the deal.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by cartman

I guess those five people must be the Illuminati, based on how much belly aching there was over the deal.

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[cartman]

Originally Posted by panerd

LOL. Can't wait until KU's and K-States anger gets directed at the right group when UT bolts at the first opportunity for "greener pastures". I will take the football/basketball sweep on our way out the door. On to baseball?

You see, this what Mizzou fans can't wrap their head around. They were so intent on getting out of the Big 12 into a conference, any conference, they can't in any way comprehend how a team could turn down an offer to move, and maybe just realize the grass isn't always greener.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by cartman

I guess those five people must be the Illuminati, based on how much belly aching there was over the deal.

(I feel guilty about it, but I LOL'd)

SI

[panerd]

Originally Posted by cartman

So you are pissed off about MBBF's posts as well? Because "helluva collapse" is a direct quote from him.

He's on my side. If he were a KU fan I would find it annoying, for sure. The only thing I find funny is that yourself, Mr Bug, Chubby, and MJ4H can't stand the guy, think he doesn't deserve responding to, supposedly often have him on ignore but somehow seem to respond to every one of his posts. And then the part that pisses myself and I think Mizzourah and others off is that you all come gleefully out of the woodwork after any Mizzou loss (which isn't often but still ) and stir shit up with him by bashing Mizzou.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by panerd

He's on my side. If he were a KU fan I would find it annoying, for sure. The only thing I find funny is that yourself, Mr Bug, Chubby, and MJ4H can't stand the guy, think he doesn't deserve responding to, supposedly often have him on ignore but somehow seem to respond to every one of his posts. And then the part that pisses myself and I think Mizzourah and others off is that you all come gleefully out of the woodwork after any Mizzou loss (which isn't often but still ) and stir shit up with him by bashing Mizzou.

I only post after a Mizzou loss? Or does "come out of the woodwork" have some new meaning I've missed?

[panerd]

Originally Posted by cartman

You see, this what Mizzou fans can't wrap their head around. They were so intent on getting out of the Big 12 into a conference, any conference, they can't in any way comprehend how a team could turn down an offer to move, and maybe just realize the grass isn't always greener.

Yeah. Texas and OU were intent on doing whatever they could to get a better deal so Mizzou jumped ship first. OU would love to be in the SEC right now but they have OSU tagging along with them. I have always said that I love the old Big 8 and actually find the Texas 4 schools entertaining to play but I don't blame Mizzou's admin for seeing the writing on the wall and getting out of dodge.

[Matthean]

If we only had a thread that talked about conference realignment...

[panerd]

Originally Posted by Matthean

If we only had a thread that talked about conference realignment...

Sorry to go so off topic when a big part of today's broadcast was about the end of MU/KU.

[General Mike]

11th commandment

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by panerd

Couldn't think of a better word. Wasn't sure what the plural was for nemesis.

I would say the search function is his biggest enemy

[Chubby]

Wow just caught up on scores. That was a helluva collapse by Missouri, anybody catch the game?

[Scoobz0202]

No. Why don't you tell me about it?

[MJ4H]

Um no. Not only do I not come out of the woodwork when Missouri loses, I don't think I've ever even posted about one. I simply don't care at all. As for having him on ignore and still responding to him, I only added him yesterday and haven't read or responded to him since. Nor do i plan to. If others want to play his juvenile douchebag games, feel free. It's not for me.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

No. Why don't you tell me about it?

Didn't watch it, just saw scores after getting back from family time.

[Solecismic]

Originally Posted by Matthean

At least Michigan got it back to being tied.

That's why I'm very worried Michigan will be a second-round upset next month. Purdue came in there feeling it needed this one to reach the tournament. Michigan played its usual game - there is no stepping up when teams need to step up.

Top ten teams don't get blown out at home like that. They knew what Purdue would throw at them, and they had no defense. The Jayhawks knew what Missouri would throw at them, and they found a way to come back.

[the_meanstrosity]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

The crowd for both games was surreal..

It just pisses me off the way basketball games are called within the last 5 minutes, really takes away from an otherwise terrific game.

Last 5 minutes? Heck, the entire game was officiated horribly in both Lawrence and Columbia. Sadly, that's become the norm for the Big 12 in recent years.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by the_meanstrosity

Last 5 minutes? Heck, the entire game was officiated horribly in both Lawrence and Columbia. Sadly, that's become the norm for the Big 12 in recent years.

It's the norm for most baskeball games I have watched.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Solecismic

That's why I'm very worried Michigan will be a second-round upset next month. Purdue came in there feeling it needed this one to reach the tournament. Michigan played its usual game - there is no stepping up when teams need to step up.

Top ten teams don't get blown out at home like that. They knew what Purdue would throw at them, and they had no defense. The Jayhawks knew what Missouri would throw at them, and they found a way to come back.

I wouldn't call a 5 point loss being blown out. I've adjusted to Hardaway Jr. just kind of being there, but when he and Burke shoot badly there's simply no way this team is winning. The lack of defense didn't help either. It kind of makes me wonder if Darius Morris going pro didn't mean the team lost one of the players that helped the team achieve success last year beyond just the stats. They don't him to be a starting PG obviously, but a quality role player that helps you get through games like this. I have also given in to the idea that this team will be an early exit in the tourney some time ago. Frustrating really based on what they did last year.

[the_meanstrosity]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

It's the norm for most baskeball games I have watched.

That's what happens when there's nothing in place to truly make these officials accountable.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by the_meanstrosity

That's what happens when there's nothing in place to truly make these officials accountable.

It's a good old boys network. They get the same old retreads in for the conference games regardless of how bad it's become. It's similar to NFL coach hiring in that regard.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by the_meanstrosity

That's what happens when there's nothing in place to truly make these officials accountable.

It really sticks out in basketball to me for some reason.

[the_meanstrosity]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

It's a good old boys network. They get the same old retreads in for the conference games regardless of how bad it's become. It's similar to NFL coach hiring in that regard.

Exactly. And I'm sure it's the same in all of the college sports. There are just a lot of inept officials who seem to be happy with getting their face on a broadcast instead of actually making the correct calls **cough Hightower**.

[Lathum]

Huskies get a win we don't deserve in Pullman. Should handle USC easily enough but need a much better performance against UCLA to lock up a berth in the NCAAs

[Solecismic]

Originally Posted by Matthean

I wouldn't call a 5 point loss being blown out. I've adjusted to Hardaway Jr. just kind of being there, but when he and Burke shoot badly there's simply no way this team is winning. The lack of defense didn't help either. It kind of makes me wonder if Darius Morris going pro didn't mean the team lost one of the players that helped the team achieve success last year beyond just the stats. They don't him to be a starting PG obviously, but a quality role player that helps you get through games like this. I have also given in to the idea that this team will be an early exit in the tourney some time ago. Frustrating really based on what they did last year.

It was 14, and Purdue controlled the game most of the way, with the exception of late in the first half and early in the second half. Burke tried to do too much, as he is wont to do lately. I think Morris at PG, with Burke at shooting guard and as a second playmaker, would have made this team much more solid. But would they have known what they had in Burke if Morris had remained?

I look at this team, and then I see what Kansas, Michigan State, Kentucky, Duke and Syracuse did today and there's still a long way to go. This is one year when I'm picking all 1-seeds to go to the Final Four.