WW CXLIX SPAWN IV - GAME OVER (Post 3845) - Page 24

Danny · 06-20-2012, 01:44 AM

Not sure about Chubby and especially Julio at this point.

Abe Sargent · 06-20-2012, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

abe has been so quiet and mysterious, but he's been studying. Or he says he's studying in thread and is actually not studying. Is there proof of abe actually doing things?

I've been quiet? You've not seen proof of my studying? Are you maybe seeing a different game than the rest of us?

Julio Riddols · 06-20-2012, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Not sure about Chubby and especially Julio at this point.

Hey, my cooking aside, I'm doin' my part to get us off this rock. You'll keep me around if you know whats good for ya.. Not nutritionally- but I'll keep our shit in order.

Julio Riddols · 06-20-2012, 02:01 AM

now i'm gonna go patrol for the night. Don't let me catch any of you higher ups doing anything I don't approve of.

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I've been quiet? You've not seen proof of my studying? Are you maybe seeing a different game than the rest of us?

not "schmidty" quiet mind you, but most of your posts have been smartass comments and jokes. Mind you I really have no idea how you behave as a player either way in WW. Granted starting out as a miner there isn't much to say other than trying to add to conversations, but now that you're a trainer I at least expected you to let us know what was going on with it and how training works and what your ideas are about who to train for what.

But granted some people play this game with total secrecy as a villager. So as I said. I don't know much about you either way.

Danny · 06-20-2012, 02:12 AM

Just want to say good job to Autumn so far for your activity and organization.

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Just want to say good job to Autumn so far for your activity and organization.

probably means he'll be a lynch candidate soon

Abe Sargent · 06-20-2012, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

but most of your posts have been smartass comments and jokes.

ummm...I was one of the firs tones to push for no vote yesterday, and today when the vote seemed to be moving i na two man race, I moved to keep mauboy in it and keep things interesting. If that's your definition of "quiet" then you need to get a new dictionary. Might I suggest:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quiet?s=t

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

ummm...I was one of the firs tones to push for no vote yesterday, and today when the vote seemed to be moving i na two man race, I moved to keep mauboy in it and keep things interesting. If that's your definition of "quiet" then you need to get a new dictionary. Might I suggest:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quiet?s=t

that's my favorite definition sight! And it has a link to bible quotes!

Seriously, just want to hear more from you. Or maybe I expected to hear more as far as game-related planning. And granted I love a good smartass comment as much as the next guy. But I don't really call voting to mean "not quiet" though. BUt I'm glad you're answering my comments at least.

That's what being "not quiet" is to me.

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 02:44 AM

Man, Julio's potroast gave me the runs. I dedicate tonight's poop to Narcizo who should be here but isn't because he missed the spaceship.

I wonder if the roast was roast spawn.

Danny · 06-20-2012, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Narcizo who should be here but isn't because he missed the spaceship.

Or did he????

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Not sure about Chubby and especially Julio at this point.

Danny, why are you suspicious of Julio?
He's been here at least. Granted he's not had a lot to do just being a miner and having his orders given to him.

Hmmm I guess I'm doublestandarding abe as that's the same case for him.

Danny · 06-20-2012, 03:02 AM

Not suspicious of him, but not trusting either. Him and Chubby are in middle ground.

JAG · 06-20-2012, 04:49 AM

We should have one of the scientists help Abe with his studying tonight so he can complete his trainer studying.

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

We should have one of the scientists help Abe with his studying tonight so he can complete his trainer studying.

who are you talking to JAG?

Isn't it a little late to ask people for that? Or are you saying that's the orders you're giving them.

JAG · 06-20-2012, 05:31 AM

Night orders aren't due for a couple hours yet I believe, so I'm talking to whoever gets here first between Schmidty and Britrock, assuming one of them hopefully logs on before they are due. If they don't, Abe should probably just sleep tonight.

JAG · 06-20-2012, 05:33 AM

BK, was W3 successfully converted? I don't believe it was listed on the report.

Chubby · 06-20-2012, 05:38 AM

Off to work til 3. I think shit is going down at work today so not sure if ill be able to post when I go to the bank lr not

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Off to work til 3. I think shit is going down at work today so not sure if ill be able to post when I go to the bank lr not

chubby I think JAG can PM your orders to BK for you based on what our needs are. But of course always nice to see your smiling face.

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Night orders aren't due for a couple hours yet I believe, so I'm talking to whoever gets here first between Schmidty and Britrock, assuming one of them hopefully logs on before they are due.

dream on, high commander, dream on...

hoopsguy · 06-20-2012, 06:51 AM

JAG, since you are around and probably a bit more on top of things than me at this point - I'm looking to do some work on converting buildings this evening. Which one should I be targeting?

Any other engineers that arrive in time this morning - join me on a building and the two of us can get 6 points done.

hoopsguy · 06-20-2012, 06:53 AM

Dola - fell asleep last night (got one hour of sleep the night before) and missed the vote. Very unlike me, and it appears that it was a significant one. If we put together a vote/unvote chart from yesterday I get the sense that there may be some protection going on there. In particular, I want to see how big the Simbo lead got before it was dialed back down and Mauboy ended up on the receiving end.

JAG · 06-20-2012, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

JAG, since you are around and probably a bit more on top of things than me at this point - I'm looking to do some work on converting buildings this evening. Which one should I be targeting?

Any other engineers that arrive in time this morning - join me on a building and the two of us can get 6 points done.

I don't have a lot of time to look at this unfortunately, but I know Julio had a post with thoughts on a conversion order of things. I don't know that it's the most effective way to go, but it was one set of thoughts. I don't think we want to do crew quarters yet, we could maybe do one of the power facilities since we have a backup available. I wouldn't do the one that connects with the perimeter fence though.

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 07:10 AM

Hey guys. Was looking at things too. Why would we need to convert things that don't need converted? Do we need that stuff in space? I assumed that when the credits role during liftoff that we are home free! This isn't Aliens (2) after all!

hoopsguy · 06-20-2012, 07:17 AM

No, liftoff is not the end of the game. It just takes some options away from Spawn (and us) in terms of turning the game into a more standard WW game ... oversimplification, but that is what the lift-off means.

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

My proposed order of operations, even though I am not calling the shots:

Assuming we have 40 water backing us up:

1. Warehouse 3 (7 cycles)
2. Officer Offices (7 cycles)
--
3. Armory (4)
4. Brig (4)
5. Power Facility 5 (5)
--
6. Sci Lab (2)
7. Med Facilities (4)
8. Security HQ (2)
9. Power Facility 2 (5)
--
10. Water Plant (7)
11. Power Facility 1 (5)
--
12. Power Facility 4 (5)
13. Warehouse 5 (7)

We use 20 water from the warehouse to get through the day unscathed.
--
14. Crew Quarters (10) Going without water for a day to help weed out spawn.

Then we GTFO, hopefully with some added info as to who are spawn and who are not. We can get un-dehydrated when we get back on the ship.

This may be a flawed view of it, but this leaves everything requiring less work as time goes on, to try and compensate for any loss of workers. It also allows us to get on the ship with some added info once we get dehydrated on that last day.

Okay here was julio's list. okay the first problem with it is that taking the armory and brig they are unusable until the Security HQ gets there. But BK said that if we convert the Security HQ onto the ship, the armory AND the brig still work on the ground.

One thing the discussions seem to be missing is that the way I understand it, things that are converted to the ship are still usable to us. They just won't be in operation until they are COMPLETELY converted. It doesn't seem like you guys think that. I think that's how it works. BK please tell me if this is true.

JAG · 06-20-2012, 07:19 AM

BK, did the research Schmidty did use up any of our stores of crystlium?

JAG · 06-20-2012, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Hey guys. Was looking at things too. Why would we need to convert things that don't need converted? Do we need that stuff in space? I assumed that when the credits role during liftoff that we are home free! This isn't Aliens (2) after all!

We probably want things like the science lab and medical place on the ship at least even if they aren't necessary, since those facilities would be pretty useful to have (I think, though we don't know exactly what we can / can't do without them).

hoopsguy · 06-20-2012, 07:22 AM

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Lift-off
In order to lift-off, the Power Facilities must not be damaged, the Cargo Hold must have the required amount of Crystlium, and all required buildings must be converted. The Captain orders the lift-off by posting the order in the thread. Once all conditions are met lift-off takes place immediately.

After lift-off no new spawn may be planted (although Spawn may still evolve).

I guess I'm missing the part in the rules about what the required buildings are that must be converted.

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 07:22 AM

I think we definitely need to move the water during a time we have a LOT of extra water and we should expect it to take 2 days. (we will try for one and settle for two in case)

JAG · 06-20-2012, 07:23 AM

I think Julio revised that list at some point also CF. A couple times in fact, if you have time to look, only 40 mins til deadline.

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I guess I'm missing the part in the rules about what the required buildings are that must be converted.

It is listed in the description of each building. A couple of people summarized that. I'll try and find one of those.

hoopsguy · 06-20-2012, 07:24 AM

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The Ship
In this game the Survivors must construct the ship they will use to escape the planet. This will happen by converting Planet Facilities into Ship Modules. The following must be present for the ship to take off:

Power Facilities (at least 4 of the 5)
Water Processing
Cargo Holds 1-3
CrewQuarters
Officers’ Offices

It is optional as to whether the other Planet Facilities are converted. Once a facility is converted into a Ship Module, it provides no benefit, except where noted, until after Lift-Off.

So this tells me what not to convert, but I don't know (probably missing this) how much conversion needs to happen to make the ship we need to take off.

Does the conversion of Power Facilties turn the land-based power facility into a ship-based power facility?

hoopsguy · 06-20-2012, 07:27 AM

Since we have to have 4 of the 5 power facilities done, that seems like a decent place to go - I'm going to submit a PM to work on #2 (brig/armory/securityHQ). Crimson, if you join me we should get 6 cycles done.

hoopsguy · 06-20-2012, 07:29 AM

Order submitted, back on later this morning.

saldana · 06-20-2012, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Given that we could have an Empath in the game, perhaps you can cancel the 5th and answer the question.

coerced statements will always come back true...you cant make anyone say something to be tested

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Since we have to have 4 of the 5 power facilities done, that seems like a decent place to go - I'm going to submit a PM to work on #2 (brig/armory/securityHQ). Crimson, if you join me we should get 6 cycles done.

are you certain we can use 6 cycles split across 3 things like that? BK can we?

I will submit the conditional order however to help you Hoops.
Also tho will wait to make sure we can use all this stuff while it is on the ship while we are still here.

JAG · 06-20-2012, 08:33 AM

He means the power facility that controls those three areas.

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 08:43 AM

oh. but then we can't use the brig or armory or hq. Shit this sucks. DAMN YOU GODFORSAKEN ROCK! DAMN YOU TO HELLLLLLLLLLLLL!

hoopsguy · 06-20-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

oh. but then we can't use the brig or armory or hq. Shit this sucks. DAMN YOU GODFORSAKEN ROCK! DAMN YOU TO HELLLLLLLLLLLLL!

Well, we won't be finishing them yet - just near completion, right? So that leaves additional discussion for others today on when we should finish that building conversion.

I believe we could use the spare to power those buildings for now, if we want to go ahead and finish things up. That is why I didn't choose the spare - I wanted us to have greater flexibility. The other choices were water (that was a pretty quick no for me) and scientists (again, wanted discussion but this was "runner-up" for me).

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

ummm...I was one of the firs tones to push for no vote yesterday, and today when the vote seemed to be moving i na two man race, I moved to keep mauboy in it and keep things interesting. If that's your definition of "quiet" then you need to get a new dictionary. Might I suggest:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quiet?s=t

Dictionary.com does all sorts of tracking of visitors so I recommend getting a different dictionary than that

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 09:04 AM

hoops since it isn't day yet mwe probably have to wait until BK says it's day and posts night results.

JAG · 06-20-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Well, we won't be finishing them yet - just near completion, right? So that leaves additional discussion for others today on when we should finish that building conversion.

I believe we could use the spare to power those buildings for now, if we want to go ahead and finish things up. That is why I didn't choose the spare - I wanted us to have greater flexibility. The other choices were water (that was a pretty quick no for me) and scientists (again, wanted discussion but this was "runner-up" for me).

All that plus no power doesn't mean we can't use the buildings at all, just that "certain functions" are not allowed.

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

BK, was W3 successfully converted? I don't believe it was listed on the report.

It was. I had some problems with my GoogleDoc where I was doing the writeup. Thanks for pointing this out.

Barkeep49 · 06-20-2012, 09:10 AM

Any place requiring power will lose functionality when converted to the ship before liftoff. The power on the ship is an "all or nothing" situation. Once the 4 required power facilities are present on the ship anything requiring power will work again. The following places remain functional on the ship after conversion but before liftoff:
Officers Offices
Crew Quarters
Warehouses 1-5

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 09:14 AM

well shit we're fucked.

JAG · 06-20-2012, 09:15 AM

So crew quarters should be next if we do it all in one shot.

hoopsguy · 06-20-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

well shit we're fucked.

Not sure I follow ...

Autumn · 06-20-2012, 09:19 AM

So there's a bigger lag for anything that is powered. We would have to move it, anything else that's powered, and then move all the power facilities. That's rough.

CrimsonFox · 06-20-2012, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Not sure I follow ...

well, things that require power (aka anything useful) won't work until we get all FOUR power things converted PLUS each of the rooms themselves. Because while we are converting the power facilities, none of the shit hooked into it will work. So we're talking days and days of most of the useful buildings not working. And we haven't even gotten to needing repairs yet.

06-20-2012, 02:01 AM	#1154
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	now i'm gonna go patrol for the night. Don't let me catch any of you higher ups doing anything I don't approve of. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

06-20-2012, 01:44 AM	#1151
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Not sure about Chubby and especially Julio at this point.

06-20-2012, 02:12 AM	#1156
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Just want to say good job to Autumn so far for your activity and organization.

06-20-2012, 02:44 AM	#1160
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Man, Julio's potroast gave me the runs. I dedicate tonight's poop to Narcizo who should be here but isn't because he missed the spaceship. I wonder if the roast was roast spawn.

06-20-2012, 03:02 AM	#1163
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Not suspicious of him, but not trusting either. Him and Chubby are in middle ground.

06-20-2012, 04:49 AM	#1164
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	We should have one of the scientists help Abe with his studying tonight so he can complete his trainer studying.

06-20-2012, 05:31 AM	#1166
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Night orders aren't due for a couple hours yet I believe, so I'm talking to whoever gets here first between Schmidty and Britrock, assuming one of them hopefully logs on before they are due. If they don't, Abe should probably just sleep tonight.

06-20-2012, 05:33 AM	#1167
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	BK, was W3 successfully converted? I don't believe it was listed on the report.

06-20-2012, 05:38 AM	#1168
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	Off to work til 3. I think shit is going down at work today so not sure if ill be able to post when I go to the bank lr not

06-20-2012, 06:51 AM	#1171
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	JAG, since you are around and probably a bit more on top of things than me at this point - I'm looking to do some work on converting buildings this evening. Which one should I be targeting? Any other engineers that arrive in time this morning - join me on a building and the two of us can get 6 points done.

06-20-2012, 06:53 AM	#1172
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Dola - fell asleep last night (got one hour of sleep the night before) and missed the vote. Very unlike me, and it appears that it was a significant one. If we put together a vote/unvote chart from yesterday I get the sense that there may be some protection going on there. In particular, I want to see how big the Simbo lead got before it was dialed back down and Mauboy ended up on the receiving end.

06-20-2012, 07:10 AM	#1174
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Hey guys. Was looking at things too. Why would we need to convert things that don't need converted? Do we need that stuff in space? I assumed that when the credits role during liftoff that we are home free! This isn't Aliens (2) after all!

06-20-2012, 07:17 AM	#1175
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	No, liftoff is not the end of the game. It just takes some options away from Spawn (and us) in terms of turning the game into a more standard WW game ... oversimplification, but that is what the lift-off means.

06-20-2012, 07:19 AM	#1177
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	BK, did the research Schmidty did use up any of our stores of crystlium?

06-20-2012, 07:22 AM	#1180
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I think we definitely need to move the water during a time we have a LOT of extra water and we should expect it to take 2 days. (we will try for one and settle for two in case)

06-20-2012, 07:23 AM	#1181
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	I think Julio revised that list at some point also CF. A couple times in fact, if you have time to look, only 40 mins til deadline.

06-20-2012, 07:27 AM	#1184
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Since we have to have 4 of the 5 power facilities done, that seems like a decent place to go - I'm going to submit a PM to work on #2 (brig/armory/securityHQ). Crimson, if you join me we should get 6 cycles done.

06-20-2012, 07:29 AM	#1185
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Order submitted, back on later this morning.

06-20-2012, 08:33 AM	#1188
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	He means the power facility that controls those three areas.

06-20-2012, 08:43 AM	#1189
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	oh. but then we can't use the brig or armory or hq. Shit this sucks. DAMN YOU GODFORSAKEN ROCK! DAMN YOU TO HELLLLLLLLLLLLL!

06-20-2012, 09:04 AM	#1192
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	hoops since it isn't day yet mwe probably have to wait until BK says it's day and posts night results.

06-20-2012, 09:10 AM	#1195
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Any place requiring power will lose functionality when converted to the ship before liftoff. The power on the ship is an "all or nothing" situation. Once the 4 required power facilities are present on the ship anything requiring power will work again. The following places remain functional on the ship after conversion but before liftoff: Officers Offices Crew Quarters Warehouses 1-5

06-20-2012, 09:14 AM	#1196
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	well shit we're fucked.

06-20-2012, 09:15 AM	#1197
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	So crew quarters should be next if we do it all in one shot.

06-20-2012, 09:19 AM	#1199
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	So there's a bigger lag for anything that is powered. We would have to move it, anything else that's powered, and then move all the power facilities. That's rough.

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