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Old 01-27-2008, 09:54 AM   #1151
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I thought you were all terrible, but what do know.

not like I play poker for a living

Hmmm, looks like someone is getting my Day 1 votes for a few games.
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:29 AM   #1152
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Hmmm, looks like someone is getting my Day 1 votes for a few games.

heh
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:36 AM   #1153
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I see bsak hanging around.

Why are you se sure I am the fish?
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:37 AM   #1154
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The fact that BSak tried to get me to admit if I have a role and actually asked me to name my role screams bad guy to me.

You and Pass seem kind of chummy lately. Just saying.

You keep saying that you aren't the fish. Fine, prove it. That's all I am saying. If you give me some good proof, I would leave you alone. I don't see what is so bad about that.

The fact that you seem so push and make accusations with little or no backings is just strange. You are relying solely on your past history in these games.
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:43 AM   #1155
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You and Pass seem kind of chummy lately. Just saying.

huh?
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Old 01-27-2008, 11:13 AM   #1156
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You keep saying that you aren't the fish. Fine, prove it. That's all I am saying. If you give me some good proof, I would leave you alone. I don't see what is so bad about that.

How on eartch could I possibly prove that?

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funny because you are doing the exact same thing. I have repeatedly asked you why you think I am the fish and you have dodged the question.

As for my baseless accusations. I voted BS day one for the obvious reason. Day 2 I was on fink early and he was a wolf, which if I am the fish like you are claiming I would have no way of knowing that. Day 3 it was a runaway on Farrah so I voted for you instead, and I gave a plausable reason. Day 4 it was a runaway on Mau for obvious reasons.

All you have done is say "VOTE LATHUM" I KNOW he is the fish when you couldn't possibly know that.

I told you it has me believing you have an ulterior motive.
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Old 01-27-2008, 11:48 AM   #1157
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Im about to head out to NYC so i wont be checking in again till monday evening.....
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Old 01-27-2008, 01:38 PM   #1158
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Im about to head out to NYC so i wont be checking in again till monday evening.....

You could have at least got a vote in today then!
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Old 01-27-2008, 01:43 PM   #1159
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Anyway, the surprise party for lurker went great. It was hard to get her to the starbucks where everyone was waiting for her, and when I kept telling her I wanted to go there, she was pretty pissed that we had to do that instead of all the other stuff she wanted to do that day. But when we got there and she saw everyone, she was REALLY surprised.

And by the way, this whole thing was her friends' idea, not mine, so no fair suspecting me of being a wolf because of my surprising capabilities (though past games have probably helped ).
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Old 01-27-2008, 02:43 PM   #1160
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I voted Pass yesterday, and I'd be inclined to do so again today, but all the analysis from him and Alan has me confused.
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:31 PM   #1161
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I'm beginning to think you're all wolves and I'm the only regular office worker left....
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Old 01-27-2008, 05:52 PM   #1162
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I don't know who the remaining wolves are, but I know that I'm not one of them.
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Old 01-27-2008, 07:43 PM   #1163
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Ugh. AlanT and Pass have traded votes, and Lathum and BSak have traded votes...NTN is MIA this game it seems - and all 5 of you have fooled me in previous games, with maybe the exception of BSak, I don't remember playing with him before. End result of this is that I really don't have a good feeling about any of you, it's completely possible you are all wolves.


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Old 01-27-2008, 07:55 PM   #1164
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then why pick me Olie?
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Old 01-27-2008, 08:06 PM   #1165
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Current Vote Count

PAssacaglia 1 ( AlanT 1126, )
AlaNT 1 ( Passacaglia 1132)
BSak 2 ( Path12 1135, Lathum 1138)
Lathum 2 ( Bsak 1136, OlieGirl 1163)


not voted yet claphamsa, JeHeinze, ntndeacon, MrWednesday, Schmidty, Render, TheJackyl)

as you can see still lots of non votes.
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Old 01-27-2008, 08:07 PM   #1166
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Ultimately, I feel like my reason for voting for Passacaglia yesterday still holds today, so I'm going to put my vote there again today. I'll be interested in looking a little more closely at Alan tomorrow.

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Old 01-27-2008, 09:01 PM   #1167
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then why pick me Olie?

I've been suspicious of you for a while, I voted for you previously (maybe day 2???) and the reasons for suspecting you haven't been resolved. If you want to try to convince me why I should move my vote onto someone else, I'm willing to read it and give it consideration.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:03 PM   #1168
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I've been suspicious of you for a while, I voted for you previously (maybe day 2???) and the reasons for suspecting you haven't been resolved. If you want to try to convince me why I should move my vote onto someone else, I'm willing to read it and give it consideration.

well what do you make of bsaks persistence?
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:14 PM   #1169
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lemme ask you this olie, you don't find it a little suspiscous that bsak asked me to reveal my role?
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:15 PM   #1170
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well what do you make of bsaks persistence?

I don't know what to make of anyone in this game...having 2 wolf factions is very difficult b/c it's not just villager/wolf, and no matter who you cast a vote for, you can look suspicious...even if that person ends up being a wolf.

No one has come out and given conclusive reasoning/evidence of their innocence. Lot's of "I'm not a wolf, I'm not the fish", etc. I've played with you enough times to know that you are a good player, and are experienced playing a wolf...so are AlanT and Pass. I've played a couple times with NTN, and he is unusually quiet this game which is definitely pinging my radar. But he has no votes on him and with as many people who haven't voted yet, I don't want to "waste" a vote on him...right now you and BSak are tied at 2, me voting for NTN would only create a 3 way tie for 2nd in votes...

I'm babbling, which Mau can attest is bad for WW play I'm around for a while, watching the awards and winding down after a busy weekend...
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:39 PM   #1171
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I'm babbling, which Mau can attest is bad for WW play I'm around for a while, watching the awards and winding down after a busy weekend...

*Cries*

You can talk just don't do dumb talk. lol

/talk from the grave
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:44 PM   #1172
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Well it's getting later and I can see a potential for some votes to go my way.

Since I am dead in the night phase anyway I may as well reveal that I am the bodyguard.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:48 PM   #1173
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I honestly don't see a really valid target out there at this point, however, Lathum, as ha been pointed out by numerous people, has been acting rather strange this game, sometimes his normal"make an argument for the sake of arguing" self and sometimes turning on his head and agreeing with someone.

I guess what it really comes down to is when all else Fails to provide strong evidence, some players are always good choices for elimination. Lathum is one of those players because he is both and excellent player no matter his role and he is a constant point of contention which is generally best eliminated before it destroys us all.

VOTE LATHUM


This was good when I posted it before and it still stands now.

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Old 01-27-2008, 09:49 PM   #1174
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God Damnit.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:49 PM   #1175
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Damn you Lathum, damn you to hell.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:50 PM   #1176
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UNVOTE LATHUM



Damnit. DAMNIT....damnit.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:52 PM   #1177
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lol

I knew as soon as I saw Render in the thread he was gonna vote for me
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:53 PM   #1178
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Well it's getting later and I can see a potential for some votes to go my way.

Since I am dead in the night phase anyway I may as well reveal that I am the bodyguard.

Who did you guard which nights? If someone you were guarding was attacked, would they have been told? Trying to see if there is anyone who can vouch for you. Have you already BG'd yourself this game?


RendeR...what do you think? Is he telling the truth?

We need the Moment of Truth guy here to interrogate Lathum!!!!
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:54 PM   #1179
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I protected myself last night, I find it odd there was still a night kill.

Bsak would know that if he was a wolf.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:57 PM   #1180
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Who did you guard which nights? If someone you were guarding was attacked, would they have been told? Trying to see if there is anyone who can vouch for you. Have you already BG'd yourself this game?

Night 1- oliegirl
Night 2-Lathum
Night 3 -Bsak
Night 4- Lathum

Day 4 I was hoping they would think I was the fish and they would go for me that night. They apparently did since they came for me, but for some reason still got a kill.
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:58 PM   #1181
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by that night I mean night 4
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:59 PM   #1182
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I don't see how he could reveal as the BG if he's lying it comes out almost immediately and he gets lynched. if he's not lying they kill him tonight anyway.

He's screwed.

its enough for me to let him be for at least one more night. We have until 7am for someone to counter his reveal but I really don't see that happening.

So lets take the opposites attract tack on this one and:

VOTE BSAK
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Old 01-27-2008, 09:59 PM   #1183
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I protected myself last night, I find it odd there was still a night kill.

Bsak would know that if he was a wolf.

Like I said before, I showed where I felt you unlikely to be a wolf from the start based on people's voting, and since you are the bodyguard, that means you can't be the fish either. So without anyone arguing against that, I trust Lathum. (He already was on my fairly trusted list anyways for a few days as I've mentioned).

One thing I don't get Lathum, if there was night kills every night, obviously the wolves didn't hit anyone you have protected. How would bsak know you were the bodyguard if he was a wolf if they didn't target you? I haven't been sure what to think of you vs Bsak for a few days now so perhaps you can help me here understand this.
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:00 PM   #1184
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Night 1- oliegirl
Night 2-Lathum
Night 3 -Bsak
Night 4- Lathum

Day 4 I was hoping they would think I was the fish and they would go for me that night. They apparently did since they came for me, but for some reason still got a kill.

Why did you guard Bsak when you've been suspicious of him and are calling him a wolf? I'm a little puzzled by that...though I am touched that you guarded me night 1

So you've guarded yourself twice, and can't guard yourself 2 nights in a row, right? What to do, what to do???

RendeR??? Any thoughts?
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:01 PM   #1185
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I don't see a reason not to believe it.

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Old 01-27-2008, 10:01 PM   #1186
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:01 PM   #1187
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Look up two posts
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:02 PM   #1188
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:03 PM   #1189
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I agree with Render, I dont see Lathum making this play as a wolf, if he was lying, the real bodyguard is still out there.

Unvote Passacaglia
Vote bsak


I still don't understand what happened last night though. Did you get a message that you were attacked? Is there some role in the game that has a night kill ability? (I'll have to go back and re-read through). Just trying to understand the play involved here.
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:05 PM   #1190
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Look up two posts

Yeah, we must have been posting at the same time

OK, my head is about to explode from trying to figure all this out...'night everyone!!!!
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:08 PM   #1191
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Looking back through the rules and roles, I don't see any other role that has a kill action that I missed. I'll trust Lathum's reveal though and just wait for Chief to explain what happened after the game.
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:09 PM   #1192
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One thing I don't get Lathum, if there was night kills every night, obviously the wolves didn't hit anyone you have protected. How would bsak know you were the bodyguard if he was a wolf if they didn't target you? I haven't been sure what to think of you vs Bsak for a few days now so perhaps you can help me here understand this.

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Why did you guard Bsak when you've been suspicious of him and are calling him a wolf? I'm a little puzzled by that...though I am touched that you guarded me night 1

So you've guarded yourself twice, and can't guard yourself 2 nights in a row, right? What to do, what to do???


To answer these questions.

I protected myself night 4 and received a PM along the lines that someone tried to get the boss to fire me. That led me to believe I protected myself, yet Arles was killed.

I protected bsak night 3 ( a wolf vs. wolf night) thinkink he may be a wolf. I figured this increased my chances. I was hoping if I had a succesfull block I may learn some info.

Bsak would know I was protected last night. I think he may be trying to get me lynched so they could pick another night target
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:14 PM   #1193
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I spent the better part of the weekend trying to wrap my brain around how the night kills work and is there anyway they wouldn't know I protected myself last night.

I decided it would be better to not take info to the grave and if I got lynched tonight it would hurt us bad.

A least we have a shot at a wolf tonight then tomorrow night it will be wolf vs. wolf.
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:41 PM   #1194
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Old 01-27-2008, 11:23 PM   #1195
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I just caught up and was already going to vote for bsak, then out comes this reveal. Interesting.

vote bsak
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Old 01-28-2008, 12:38 AM   #1196
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UNVOTE RENDER

VOTE BSAK

I'm going to assume you meant to unvote Lathum here.
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Old 01-28-2008, 12:44 AM   #1197
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Day 5 Count (as of Post 1196)

bsak16 (7)-- path12 (1135), Lathum (1138), Render (1182), Passacaglia (1185), oliegirl (1186), Alan T (1189), The Jackal (1195)
Lathum (1)-- bsak16 (1136)
Passacaglia (1)-- Mr. Wednesday (1166)

Not Voted: claphamsa, ntndeacon, Schmidty, jeheinz72


Here's a vote count to this point. Want to be ready for the morning when I get up.
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Old 01-28-2008, 12:57 AM   #1198
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Old 01-28-2008, 01:31 AM   #1199
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Ugh. AlanT and Pass have traded votes, and Lathum and BSak have traded votes...NTN is MIA this game it seems - and all 5 of you have fooled me in previous games, with maybe the exception of BSak, I don't remember playing with him before. End result of this is that I really don't have a good feeling about any of you, it's completely possible you are all wolves.


VOTE LATHUM

no it is just the weekend and I forgot to post.
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Old 01-28-2008, 01:36 AM   #1200
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interesting...
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