2017 College Football Season thread - Page 24

JonInMiddleGA · 10-31-2017, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.co...609884945.aspx

And what is lost sometimes about that explanation is, like, the placement of the commas. All those specific items only come into play to separate similarly ranked teams.

The committee can have 3 teams who fare poorly in some of those metrics ahead of 4 teams all clustered at #4 if that's how they judge the on-field performance (note that it doesn't say on field results)

jbergey22 · 10-31-2017, 11:29 PM

Agree!

The wording of it all just magnifies the confusion of what they are actually looking for.

Most deserving and better arent always the same thing. Trying to eliminate 1 loss teams based on their performance in likely their extreme worst performance of the year creates a lot of difficulty.

Chief Rum · 10-31-2017, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

http://www.collegefootballplayoff.co...609884945.aspx

You realize what you posted supported exactly what I said, and not what you said, right?

They judge the four best teams based on performance on field and there is nothing in there about picking the four best teams, regardless of performance.

jbergey22 · 10-31-2017, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

You realize what you posted supported exactly what I said, and not what you said, right?

They judge the four best teams based on performance on field and there is nothing in there about picking the four best teams, regardless of performance.

What is the difference? The four best teams are the four teams that perform the best on the field. (I am not understanding the dis-connect here.)

The four best teams according to S&P+ are Ohio St, Alabama, Georgia, Washington which is a semi unbias way of ranking teams by their on field play. But there is absolutely no way the committee will evolve into a system like this so results are going to ultimately matter.

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S&P+ rating: Using the five-factors concept above, the S&P+ ratings take into account efficiency (Success Rates), explosiveness (IsoPPP), and factors related to field position and finishing drives. It is now presented in two forms: the first is a percentile, and the second is an adjusted scoring margin specific for this specific season's scoring curve.

If they are basing it on "performance" on the field how can you take a team that has looked as vulnerable as Oklahoma lately over teams that have looked dominant the majority of the season? If they are doing their jobs correctly they need to be judging the entire body of work and not just 1 game.

EagleFan · 11-04-2017, 02:29 PM

Must be some crazy weather going on in Michigan. Not restarting until 5.

EagleFan · 11-04-2017, 02:48 PM

WTF is going on Fox? Game gets tied with seconds left and now they put a different game on. They have a "program alert" that says something about the game being on Fox Business. They have the same game on Fox Business that they have on Fox now (Stanford/Washington State).

You get me interested in the Texas Tech game, I want to see how it ends now.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-04-2017, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

WTF is going on Fox? Game gets tied with seconds left and now they put a different game on. They have a "program alert" that says something about the game being on Fox Business. They have the same game on Fox Business that they have on Fox now (Stanford/Washington State).

You get me interested in the Texas Tech game, I want to see how it ends now.

My money would be on "contractual obligation"

EagleFan · 11-04-2017, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

My money would be "contractual obligation"

I get that for the main channel, but why have the game "moved to Fox Business" and then have the same game on that channel as what they changed the main channel to. I think they screwed up on that part.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-04-2017, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

I get that for the main channel, but why have the game "moved to Fox Business" and then have the same game on that channel as what they changed the main channel to. I think they screwed up on that part.

Oh yeah, I musta missed that part. Yes, that sounds like a screwup in master control.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-04-2017, 03:28 PM

There should be a Vegas line on the number of facepalms endured by GT fans every Saturday.

Bet the over, retire young.

General Mike · 11-04-2017, 03:51 PM

RU up 17-7 on Maryland. Feeling better about the future right now, especially with our big QB commit the other day.

lungs · 11-04-2017, 04:18 PM

Where is tarcone today?

tarcone · 11-04-2017, 04:19 PM

At a marathon gaming charity event. I’m watching. Holy crap!

tarcone · 11-04-2017, 04:21 PM

Iowa is terrible at half time adjustments. We will see what happens in the 2nd half.

lungs · 11-04-2017, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tarcone

At a marathon gaming charity event. I’m watching. Holy crap!

Go Iowa!

HerRealName · 11-04-2017, 04:52 PM

I'm not sure Greg Schiano has figured out that TEs are eligible receivers.

Thomkal · 11-04-2017, 05:06 PM

Coastal Carolina, having a horrible season with just one win, has some how just gone ahead in the 3rd quarter at Arkansas. Would certainly be the biggest win in team history if they can hold on.

HerRealName · 11-04-2017, 05:11 PM

Sometimes it's just not your day. I'm not even sure how that guy was an eligible receiver so I guess Schiano and I are in the same boat.

Eaglesfan27 · 11-04-2017, 05:14 PM

Wow. I never thought I would root so much for Iowa

tarcone · 11-04-2017, 05:26 PM

Ohio State who?

JonInMiddleGA · 11-04-2017, 05:33 PM

GT doing GT things.
#smdh

Edward64 · 11-04-2017, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

Coastal Carolina, having a horrible season with just one win, has some how just gone ahead in the 3rd quarter at Arkansas. Would certainly be the biggest win in team history if they can hold on.

The razorbacks are doing poorly this year.

But I think we have the future QB in Cole Kelley.

I would like to see a new coach next year.

NobodyHere · 11-04-2017, 05:44 PM

Tonight the role of "Ohio State" will be played by the Cleveland Browns. Let's watch what happens.

Brian Swartz · 11-04-2017, 05:46 PM

Don't remember the last time the Big Ten was this unpredictable. Wisconsin has a couple of very interesting home games coming up.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-04-2017, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

I would like to see a new coach next year.

Today seems rather likely to increase the chances of that. I mean, holy hell.

Edward64 · 11-04-2017, 05:47 PM

I am enjoying watching OSU get beat though. Maybe it really wasn't Urban's coaching but more like the SEC environment and available talent

Edward64 · 11-04-2017, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

The razorbacks are doing poorly this year.

But I think we have the future QB in Cole Kelley.

I would like to see a new coach next year.

Oh, still not quite as bad as 92 when we lost to The Citadel. Just that the BB era has not met expectations.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-04-2017, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Oh, still not quite as bad as 92 when we lost to The Citadel. Just that the BB era has not met expectations.

I dunno. That Citadel team wasn't half bad (won the SoCon, also beat Army).

Today might actually be a case of losing to a worse team than that one.

hollmt · 11-04-2017, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Tonight the role of "Ohio State" will be played by the Cleveland Browns. Let's watch what happens.

This made me laugh out loud...or as the internets nerds say, lol.

I dont have espn, so I knew I'd miss the game. Just got home and sat down to eat like 15 minutes ago and saw the score. At least now I can live the rest of the college fball season stress free and will give 2 shits less what happens.

OSU doesnt desereve to be in the college football playoff conversation for at least the next 3 years after this.

General Mike · 11-04-2017, 06:03 PM

haven't been this excited about a Rutgers win in a long time.

tarcone · 11-04-2017, 06:13 PM

55 on OSU. Largest margin of victory against an urban Meyer team.

Go Hawks!

Buccaneer · 11-04-2017, 06:19 PM

I love the Iowa stomping!! It was such an enjoyable to watch after it was 17-17.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-04-2017, 06:22 PM

Among the days bigger winners (big picture) overall has to be Clemson. The outcomes elsewhere feel like they solidify their situation a fair bit.

tarcone · 11-04-2017, 06:24 PM

Iowa starring in the spoiler role.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-04-2017, 06:33 PM

Okay, not sure anybody outside of Arkansas that doesn't feel a little bit bad for Coastal Carolina right now has a functional heart.

That's gotta suck.

Edward64 · 11-04-2017, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I dunno. That Citadel team wasn't half bad (won the SoCon, also beat Army).

Today might actually be a case of losing to a worse team than that one.

Whew, we pulled it off.

A win is a win but boy was it fugly.

Edward64 · 11-04-2017, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Okay, not sure anybody outside of Arkansas that doesn't feel a little bit bad for Coastal Carolina right now has a functional heart.

That's gotta suck.

AR definitely didn't deserve to win.

BTW what are you doing watching the AR game? There were better games going on ... are you a fan?

cuervo72 · 11-04-2017, 06:44 PM

Not sure there were.

/flipped around, settled on hockey

Buccaneer · 11-04-2017, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

Not sure there were.

/flipped around, settled on hockey

Um, there's that fantastic show between the two best QBs Mayfield and Rudolph - Okla vs Okla State??

MrBug708 · 11-04-2017, 06:47 PM

Tarcone needs to spend less time on watching Iowa for better results!

This call a for another extension

Thomkal · 11-04-2017, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Okay, not sure anybody outside of Arkansas that doesn't feel a little bit bad for Coastal Carolina right now has a functional heart.

That's gotta suck.

Sure does suck, but Coastal had no business even being close in this game. But both teams were clean I think-no INT's or fumbles, maybe Arkansas under estimated them. Maybe Coastal can build on this for next season when (hopefully) their head coach returns from his illness, and they are at full scholarships.

bhlloy · 11-04-2017, 07:09 PM

Looks like the refs screwed this up pretty bad in the OK - State game

JonInMiddleGA · 11-04-2017, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

AR definitely didn't deserve to win.

BTW what are you doing watching the AR game? There were better games going on ... are you a fan?

Keeping track, not watching per se.

cuervo72 · 11-04-2017, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Um, there's that fantastic show between the two best QBs Mayfield and Rudolph - Okla vs Okla State??

When I sat down I noticed on ESPN that Oklahoma had just gone up 55-45. Probably shouldn't have figured that a ten-point lead in the 4th was safe, but then again I don't really care much about either OK team, or the Big 12. Or for football games with college basketball scores.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-04-2017, 09:51 PM

I don't know that anyone is more grieved over the notion I'm about to present but, truth is truth, Georgia looks equipped to give Bama a legit game.

If they get 10 yards or less on half their possessions against Georgia, they might just be in deep trouble. That offense hasn't done a ton of scoring against anyone remotely worth a damn all season so far, if they don't fix that ... well, I can't even bring myself to say it.

Edward64 · 11-04-2017, 09:53 PM

Alabama looks to continue their domination.

I'll root for GA in the SEC championship game but AL is still king of the mountain until a team is more than just a speed bump.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-04-2017, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Alabama looks to continue their domination.

I'll root for GA in the SEC championship game but AL is still king of the mountain until a team is more than just a speed bump.

The offense just feels like it's incredibly pedestrian this year, more than past years. The lack of a dominant breakout back, the seemingly casual play of Hurts.

jbergey22 · 11-04-2017, 10:00 PM

How can Oklahoma have such a great offense and such an awful defense? I dont know what to make of that team. Are they going to have to try to score 60 on Alabama to beat them if they make the playoffs?

I just wish they would show some sign of having even an average defense and reward that spectacular offense with a playoff spot.

tarcone · 11-05-2017, 12:56 AM

2 weeks ago FKF tiold the press our offense was close to a break out. Then we put 17 up against minny. Who would have thought the break out would come against OSU?

mauchow · 11-05-2017, 07:48 AM

That offense can revert back to what it was vs Wisconsin next week, k thanks.

11-04-2017, 02:29 PM	#1155
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11-04-2017, 02:48 PM	#1156
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	WTF is going on Fox? Game gets tied with seconds left and now they put a different game on. They have a "program alert" that says something about the game being on Fox Business. They have the same game on Fox Business that they have on Fox now (Stanford/Washington State). You get me interested in the Texas Tech game, I want to see how it ends now. __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important Last edited by EagleFan : 11-04-2017 at 02:49 PM.

11-04-2017, 03:28 PM	#1160
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	There should be a Vegas line on the number of facepalms endured by GT fans every Saturday. Bet the over, retire young. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-04-2017, 04:19 PM	#1163
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	At a marathon gaming charity event. I’m watching. Holy crap! __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

11-04-2017, 04:21 PM	#1164
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Iowa is terrible at half time adjustments. We will see what happens in the 2nd half. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

10-31-2017, 11:29 PM	#1152
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Agree! The wording of it all just magnifies the confusion of what they are actually looking for. Most deserving and better arent always the same thing. Trying to eliminate 1 loss teams based on their performance in likely their extreme worst performance of the year creates a lot of difficulty.

11-04-2017, 03:51 PM	#1161
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	RU up 17-7 on Maryland. Feeling better about the future right now, especially with our big QB commit the other day.

11-04-2017, 04:18 PM	#1162
lungs Pro Rookie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Prairie du Sac, WI	Where is tarcone today?

11-04-2017, 04:52 PM	#1166
HerRealName College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	I'm not sure Greg Schiano has figured out that TEs are eligible receivers.

11-04-2017, 05:06 PM	#1167
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Coastal Carolina, having a horrible season with just one win, has some how just gone ahead in the 3rd quarter at Arkansas. Would certainly be the biggest win in team history if they can hold on. __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

11-04-2017, 05:11 PM	#1168
HerRealName College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2002	Sometimes it's just not your day. I'm not even sure how that guy was an eligible receiver so I guess Schiano and I are in the same boat.

11-04-2017, 05:14 PM	#1169
Eaglesfan27 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey	Wow. I never thought I would root so much for Iowa __________________ Retired GM of the eNFL 2007 Super Bowl Champion Philadelphia Eagles (19-0 record.) GM of the WOOF 2006 Doggie Bowl Champion Atlantic City Gamblers. GM of the IHOF 2019 and 2022 IHOF Bowl Champion Asheville Axemen.

11-04-2017, 05:26 PM	#1170
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Ohio State who? __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

11-04-2017, 05:33 PM	#1171
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	GT doing GT things. #smdh __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-04-2017, 05:44 PM	#1173
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Tonight the role of "Ohio State" will be played by the Cleveland Browns. Let's watch what happens. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

11-04-2017, 05:46 PM	#1174
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	Don't remember the last time the Big Ten was this unpredictable. Wisconsin has a couple of very interesting home games coming up.

11-04-2017, 05:47 PM	#1176
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	I am enjoying watching OSU get beat though. Maybe it really wasn't Urban's coaching but more like the SEC environment and available talent

11-04-2017, 06:03 PM	#1180
General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	haven't been this excited about a Rutgers win in a long time.

11-04-2017, 06:13 PM	#1181
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	55 on OSU. Largest margin of victory against an urban Meyer team. Go Hawks! __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

11-04-2017, 06:19 PM	#1182
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I love the Iowa stomping!! It was such an enjoyable to watch after it was 17-17.

11-04-2017, 06:22 PM	#1183
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Among the days bigger winners (big picture) overall has to be Clemson. The outcomes elsewhere feel like they solidify their situation a fair bit. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-04-2017, 06:24 PM	#1184
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	Iowa starring in the spoiler role. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

11-04-2017, 06:33 PM	#1185
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Okay, not sure anybody outside of Arkansas that doesn't feel a little bit bad for Coastal Carolina right now has a functional heart. That's gotta suck. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-04-2017, 06:44 PM	#1188
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Not sure there were. /flipped around, settled on hockey __________________ null

11-04-2017, 06:47 PM	#1190
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Tarcone needs to spend less time on watching Iowa for better results! This call a for another extension

11-04-2017, 07:09 PM	#1192
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Looks like the refs screwed this up pretty bad in the OK - State game

11-04-2017, 09:51 PM	#1195
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	I don't know that anyone is more grieved over the notion I'm about to present but, truth is truth, Georgia looks equipped to give Bama a legit game. If they get 10 yards or less on half their possessions against Georgia, they might just be in deep trouble. That offense hasn't done a ton of scoring against anyone remotely worth a damn all season so far, if they don't fix that ... well, I can't even bring myself to say it. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

11-04-2017, 09:53 PM	#1196
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Alabama looks to continue their domination. I'll root for GA in the SEC championship game but AL is still king of the mountain until a team is more than just a speed bump.

11-04-2017, 10:00 PM	#1198
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	How can Oklahoma have such a great offense and such an awful defense? I dont know what to make of that team. Are they going to have to try to score 60 on Alabama to beat them if they make the playoffs? I just wish they would show some sign of having even an average defense and reward that spectacular offense with a playoff spot.

11-05-2017, 12:56 AM	#1199
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	2 weeks ago FKF tiold the press our offense was close to a break out. Then we put 17 up against minny. Who would have thought the break out would come against OSU? __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

11-05-2017, 07:48 AM	#1200
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	That offense can revert back to what it was vs Wisconsin next week, k thanks. Last edited by mauchow : 11-05-2017 at 07:48 AM.

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