Werewolf CXXVII -- The Godfather, VILLAGERS WIN

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

So let me get this straight...you are both the Seer AND Luca?
That's quite impressive. Best role ever.

??? Luca?

[Autumn]

Wow, this game is proving hard to keep up with, lol.

The first reveal is almost always the real one. A reveal after getting scanned .. doubtful.

vote eaglefan
vote nightfall

[EagleFan]

It was already said in thread that the bodyguard protected me on night three from a kill. If that isn't enough to show that bhlloy is lying I really don;t know what else I can do.

[CrimsonFox]

Except that the one who was protected night 3 was JAG. Fact.

[Autumn]

So EF is suggesting McK and Bhlloy are wolves. Well, that should be easy. Who did hte bodyguard guard on that night he's talking about?

[CrimsonFox]

I just said. JAG.

[EagleFan]

Dammit, I knew I should have killed CF today...

[JAG]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Except that the one who was protected night 3 was JAG. Fact.

Pshhh, one minor detail in the story. Don't slow him down, let him finish.

[EagleFan]

Good job bhlloy, bring this one home for us. They have no idea that the seer isn't really in the game.

[CrimsonFox]

My name is Luca. I live on the second floor...

[EagleFan]

Oh well, gotta go. Already spent more time on herre than I shouuld have.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Because I haven't been paying attention enough. My time is crunched and I am truly burnt out from last game. I already appologized to Pass for not doing enough in thread and for playing poorly.

Night One I scanned tyke, conditional with mau who came up good.
Night Two I scanned darth (picked from a non voter) who came up bad.
Night Three I scanned Narc (had no idea how he played and he was playing out front quite a bit) who came up good.
Night Four I scanned mckerney who came up wolf, now I understand the jeff thing.

I hoped for one more night scan as I knew if I was night killed you guys would be able to nail bhlloy next.

Good one.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Dammit, I knew I should have killed CF today...

Never underestimate my power to try and clear wolves and implicate villagers to keep me from getting nightkilled.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by Autumn

So EF is suggesting McK and Bhlloy are wolves. Well, that should be easy. Who did hte bodyguard guard on that night he's talking about?

Or we could just wait for nightfall.

[CrimsonFox]

bhlloy just in case, please enter a scan tonight. I so hope there aren't 6 wolves.

[JAG]

So there was only one wolf on mau after all. I should've given Lathum more credit.

[JAG]

Only missing Zinto for unanimous nightfall.

[J23]

Can I just say how nerve wracking it is being a villager where your vote counts double on other villagers?

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Except that the one who was protected night 3 was JAG. Fact.

Nice work on the night kill. What was the reason you had for going after Lathum?

[mckerney]

Nightfall Zinto, nightfall!

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by J23

Can I just say how nerve wracking it is being a villager where your vote counts double on other villagers?

About as much as making yourself look like a wolf with your horrible voting decisions for the first half of the game?

[Zinto]

Sorry guys walked away from my computer with the window open so I was just catching up. Does everyone have their night stuff done since I do not want to run the risk that there are 6 wolves.

[J23]

I seem to make the horrible voting decisions for the majority of the game when I play.

[CrimsonFox]

Here's where we are.

Good guys

Vito "Don" Corleone -- Narcizo
Luca Brasi -- CrimsonFox
Michael Corleone -- mauboy
Tom Hagen -- bhlloy
Connie Corleone -- unknown


Kay Adams -- Chief Rum
Salvatore Tessio -- Danny


Traitors

Victor "The Turk" Sollozzo -- EF?
Captain McCluskey -- DV
Emilio Barzini -- MartinD
Carlo Rizzi -- Jeff061


(extra) Sonny Corleone -- Lathum


Good guys or Traitors

Fredo Corleone -- j23
Peter Clemenza -- ?
Johnny Fontane -- ?
Jack Woltz -- saldana
Moe Greene -- tyketime
Appollonia Vitelli -- mckerney
Phillip Tattaglia -- Autumn

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by mckerney

About as much as making yourself look like a wolf with your horrible voting decisions for the first half of the game?

yeah mckerney it's a great thing you revealed. That's why JAG and I kept arguing against you.

[The Jackal]

Seems you missed my subtle reveal, CF, but you already theorized it pretty early, I am indeed Clemenza.

[The Jackal]

And JAG is pretty obviously Fontane, with his hint about not liking horse heads.

[The Jackal]

And Zinto revealed as Connie

[CrimsonFox]

I think JAG is Connie (since he said i could pass him the horsehead and I'm guessing he wouldn't have been able to use the gun/canoli if he were Peter)

and I'll guess Jackal is Peter and Zinto is Johnny.

[J23]

fixed

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Here's where we are.

Good guys

Vito "Don" Corleone -- Narcizo
Luca Brasi -- CrimsonFox
Michael Corleone -- mauboy
Tom Hagen -- bhlloy
Connie Corleone -- unknown


Kay Adams -- Chief Rum
Salvatore Tessio -- Danny


Traitors

Victor "The Turk" Sollozzo -- EF?
Captain McCluskey -- DV
Emilio Barzini -- MartinD
Carlo Rizzi -- Jeff061


(extra) Sonny Corleone -- Lathum


Good guys or Traitors

Fredo Corleone -- j23
Peter Clemenza -- The Jackal
Johnny Fontane -- JAG
Jack Woltz -- saldana
Moe Greene -- tyketime
Appollonia Vitelli -- mckerney
Phillip Tattaglia -- Autumn

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

And JAG is pretty obviously Fontane, with his hint about not liking horse heads.

Oh that's what that meant. I thought he said I COULD pass it to him.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

yeah mckerney it's a great thing you revealed. That's why JAG and I kept arguing against you.

I pretty much had to after switching off of Jeff. I probably would've voted for me if I hadn't known for sure that I wasn't a villager. The day one talk that Apolina got mau and Danny killed didn't help, thankfully you killed Lathum as a neutral roled wolf and I had the canoli pass.

[Zinto]

Vote Eagle
Vote Nightfall

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

And Zinto revealed as Connie

missed that. hard to keep up with all these reveals.

[J23]

oops, forgot Zinto as Connie.

[The Jackal]

well, hopefully this is all irrelevant and the game is over, but we'll see

[CrimsonFox]

That's right. The canoli pass. I figured you wouldn't say that AND pass it to a pretty certain villager (JAG) if you were a wolf. No way a wolf would lose that item.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Seems you missed my subtle reveal, CF, but you already theorized it pretty early, I am indeed Clemenza.

Ah, just went back and saw that. Was about to ask if the pass was indeed random. Were you informed who the items went to though?

[The Jackal]

My mistake of forgetting to pass one of the items to Danny ended up leading to 3 people being mostly cleared. Works for me!

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by mckerney

Ah, just went back and saw that. Was about to ask if the pass was indeed random. Were you informed who the items went to though?

Nope

[JAG]

Originally Posted by J23

Can I just say how nerve wracking it is being a villager where your vote counts double on other villagers?

I fretted all game about the horse head. I had ideas of how to deal with it, but no one brought it up so I wasn't going to.

[CrimsonFox]

That's true. That could have screwed us a bit as you were my main ally and doing a large part of the analysis.

[mckerney]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

My mistake of forgetting to pass one of the items to Danny ended up leading to 3 people being mostly cleared. Works for me!

You forgetting was probably the best thing that could've happen with everything getting to JAG day 3. Gave us a kill and a very useful vote that punched a wolf.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

My mistake of forgetting to pass one of the items to Danny ended up leading to 3 people being mostly cleared. Works for me!

That's true Jackal. Thanks to the gun I was able to reveal THAT instead of having to reveal I was Luca. So thanks for not showing up!

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by mckerney

You forgetting was probably the best thing that could've happen with everything getting to JAG day 3. Gave us a kill and a very useful vote that punched a wolf.

That was so amazingly lucky, although really he was my only choice then of who I thought was definitely a villager, with Narcizo being a close second. tyke third

[mckerney]

Stupid auto correct. I guess it works though.

[JAG]

All in all, we had some pretty good luck on our side. The random passes by Jackal worked out well but obviously could've been disastrous. If CF didn't reveal he had the gun (and he may not have been passed it by Jackal), maybe I wouldn't have unvoted him and he would've been forced to reveal. Then the Luca kill and EF's comment that was part of the factor in my decision to kill Jeff.

[CrimsonFox]

The other thing is day 2. I was swapping between killing Lathum and killing Autumn several times. Good thing I went with my first choice or this game would have gone the complete opposite direction. (Would have been a 4 villager kill day, pending that Autumn is a villager)

[The Jackal]

Was a hell of a ballsy move to kill Lathum. What was it based on? He's gonna be pissed at the risk you took

[CrimsonFox]

Of all the people Lathum was acting the LEAST like himself, at least as far as the games I've played with him. What I often see Lathum do in the games I"ve played with him is first day analyze the rules out loud and start picking out the unique rules for that game and coming up with some scheme or plan to out wolves with it and try to get everyone in the village according to this plan. I never was able to put it into words until the last two games (Vegas Baby and Amazing Race). In Vegas, he did it with the money, telling everyone to vote for him and then then saying everyone should vote for the people that bet on him. HE was also a big proponent for revealing money. In Amazing Race he led the stampede over Jackal based on the PMing trap he was trying to set. Thing is, he only has done this stuff as a vilalger that I've seen him. I've never seen him be a wolf to my memory. And here was a game with more rules than we've ever seen before and an entire weekend to analyze them and NOTHING. Not a peep from Lathum. And when he does show up his posts are very small and concise. That was very weird. The icing on the cake was the last comment he made further implicating me and other nonvoters day one.