Official 2010-11 College Basketball Thread

[Ryno]

Originally Posted by Logan

BTW, the three refs have "voluntarily withdrawn" from the rest of the BE tourney. Which is complete horseshit because it gets the league out of handing out any formal, official punishment.

Noooooooooo! That probably means that they'll be working the Big Ten tournament instead. There's pretty much a consensus that Burr is the worst ref in the conference.

[whomario]

Great game between UConn and Pitt right now. Not allways pretty but very intense.

[Swaggs]

Wow! Kemba Walker just hit a dagger to win it at the buzzer.

UConn knocks out Pitt by 2.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Ryno

Noooooooooo! That probably means that they'll be working the Big Ten tournament instead. There's pretty much a consensus that Burr is the worst ref in the conference.

[jbergey22]

I think it would be safe to say the Big East tournament is bringing it again this year. Every year their tournament is just a joy to watch. Kind of the mini NCAA tourny.

And I agree with what has been said about that Rutgers/St Johns game. What an absolutely brutal job of controlling the final seconds of that game by the refs.

[whomario]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Wow! Kemba Walker just hit a dagger to win it at the buzzer.

UConn knocks out Pitt by 2.

yeah, that was an amazing shot/move. I am certainly not his biggest fan, but that was just beautiful to watch, kind of the ideal game winning shot you make up in your dreams, loosing the defender on a crossover and then hitting the jump shot while everyone can only watch.

Pitt propably should have double teamed there, it´s not like Walker would give up the ball there (he did try to last game and it became a TO, won´t do it again this year i´d guess)

holy hell, did anyone see the end of regulation in the UVA-MIA game ? Virginia blew a 10 point lead in like the last minute, wow (not high scoring either, Miami had 43 points prior to that). Miami goes on to win in OT.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by whomario

yeah, that was an amazing shot/move. I am certainly not his biggest fan, but that was just beautiful to watch, kind of the ideal game winning shot you make up in your dreams, loosing the defender on a crossover and then hitting the jump shot while everyone can only watch.

Pitt propably should have double teamed there, it´s not like Walker would give up the ball there (he did try to last game and it became a TO, won´t do it again this year i´d guess)

Yeah, McGhee on Walker with under 5-seconds left is not the match up that Pitt wants there.

Kind of funny that they were mentioning that the Pitt folks felt like McGhee should have been DPOY in the East and he got eaten up like that (not that it was his fault -- I assume it was a bad switch).

In any case, that sequence is going to be part of BE Tourney highlights for quite some time, I imagine.

[Radii]

Originally Posted by whomario

holy hell, did anyone see the end of regulation in the UVA-MIA game ? Virginia blew a 10 point lead in like the last minute, wow (not high scoring either, Miami had 43 points prior to that). Miami goes on to win in OT.

It was pretty insane. Miami made only two field goals in the first 18 minutes of the second half...

42 seconds to go, Virginia makes it 53-43 at the fT line
35 seconds to go, Miami hits a 3, 53-46
32 seconds, UVA misses two free throws
23 seconds, Miami hits another 3, 53-49
21 seconds to go, Virginia inbounds the ball, then throws it out of bounds
19 seconds to go, easy dunk off inbounds pass, 53-51
14 seconds, UVA inbounded the ball, got trapped and burned a timeout. On their next inbounds pass they threw it away under the basket, Miami recovered and hit a layup

10-0 run in 28 seconds.

[molson]

That was a very entertaining first two games today at MSG. It's been a great run at the end of the season for Syracuse, and Fab Melo picked a great time to have his best game of the season (and Jim Boeheim picked a great time to rely on him - seemingly out of nowhere). The fact that Boeheim hasn't killed Melo's confidence with the quick hooks all year is a great sign for Melo's future there.

[sterlingice]

Crap- was watching the Michigan State-Iowa game on ESPN3 and forgot that was happening a couple of blocks from where I work in Indy

I should try to get tickets for one of the sessions tomorrow night. Again, have always wanted to go to a major conference tournament so, saving that, there's the Big 10 here

SI

[Ragone]

Damnit.. sooner michigan state is eliminated.. the sooner they can't wreck my bracket as they do every year..

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Ragone

Damnit.. sooner michigan state is eliminated.. the sooner they can't wreck my bracket as they do every year..

They have to play Purdue next and only a win will guarantee them being in. If they lose, it's a coin flip. This isn't a team that's end putting in an end run that makes you believe that if they get into the tourney they can make a run. They are still 3-9 against the top 50. Their biggest road win I think is Northwestern. As nice of a story Michigan is, State still went 0-2 against them. It would be a triumph if they made it to the Sweet 16. I can understand dealing with colds, injuries, and various things, but this team hasn't ever really shown it has the mental make up to live up to it's hype, or be anything, but a .500 Big 10 team.

[Swaggs]

As a fan of a probable 5-6 seed, I really, really do not want to have to play Michigan State in the opening round of the tournament.

No matter how bad/mediocre their team has been, you know they have a ton of talent and one of (if not "the") the best coaches in all of basketball.

[Scoobz0202]

That crossed my mind earlier this afternoon, Swaggs. Every year when filling out brackets there are a small number of teams that I tend to ponder giving them that extra round or two for different "intangibles." Michigan State is pretty much example #1 of that factor. If I were to pick a coach that I want to lead my team in March there is a strong case for Tom Izzo. When filling out this years bracket it's going to be tough to place them. They very well could be a first round exit.... but it's Izzo.

[Ragone]

Thats why i said i want michigan state out.. they are impossible and always a bracket buster team..

Meanwhile, apparently the big east sent in their call everything refs for the Louisville/Marquette game.. this is insane..

[digamma]

I've met Paul Hewitt a few times and he's a very nice man. But, bad luck, bad coaching, bad management or recruiting, I really hope his time is done.

Now it is on to more important things, like the Ivy League Play in Game.

[Lathum]

Huskies playing like we want to lose the game. Everytime we take the lead we get sloppy and undisciplined.

Klay Thompson is easily the best player on the court tonight

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Crap- was watching the Michigan State-Iowa game on ESPN3 and forgot that was happening a couple of blocks from where I work in Indy

I should try to get tickets for one of the sessions tomorrow night. Again, have always wanted to go to a major conference tournament so, saving that, there's the Big 10 here

SI

How dare you!

Go root on Coach B and the boys at 2:30 tomorrow. Win gets us in. Don't screw it up SI!

[sterlingice]

I don't think I can sneak out before work, tho. I'd probably have to settle for the 6:30/9:00 set of games. We'll see, tho- I'm still a bit under the weather.

SI

[Butter]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

How dare you!

Go root on Coach B and the boys at 2:30 tomorrow. Win gets us in. Don't screw it up SI!

At least there is no Evan Turner to beat them this year.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Really hope Coach Anderson starts the most worthy five players in our tournament game. Pretty embarrassing effort by Mizzou last night. Practice is going to be BRUTAL.

[Butter]

All 3 of the teams I follow are tipping in the next couple of hours.

Dayton gets the chance to be knocked out of the A10 tournament in 4 of the last 5 years by Xavier. I can't honestly say I'm pumped for this game, I expect UD to stay close yet find a way to lose in the end, much like they have many games this season.

Ohio State shouldn't have a problem with Northwestern.

Clemson needs a win over Boston College to get in the NCAA tournament. Despite Lunardi having them safely in the bracket (or at least above the "Last 4 In"), I have looked at their numbers and I am not so sure. RPI is at 60, SOS is between 50 and 100. Top 50 record is something like 2-5. I don't have the same faith he does that they are in.

Bonus of them being one of the last 4 in to me, would be a chance to see them in the First 4 here in Dayton... so I am almost rooting for them to just scrape in so I can get tix for this next week.

[MJ4H]

Welp. Another end of the season collapse should spell the end for Pelphrey. The word was he was done barring a miracle run through the SEC tournament.

Yeah, that didn't happen.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Really hope Coach Anderson starts the most worthy five players in our tournament game. Pretty embarrassing effort by Mizzou last night. Practice is going to be BRUTAL.

They must have LOVED their draw in the tourney too much.

[Butter]

Mizzou won't have to worry about that next year when Anderson goes off to coach Arkansas.

[DataKing]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Mizzou won't have to worry about that next year when Anderson goes off to coach Arkansas.

But then Coach K is going to leave Duke and go to Columbia, right?

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Really hope Coach Anderson starts the most worthy five players in our tournament game. Pretty embarrassing effort by Mizzou last night. Practice is going to be BRUTAL.

Bottom line.. this team just isn't that good.

[jbergey22]

Athough they are currently off to a poor start against Dayton does anyone else see Xavier as a possible sleeper final 4 team this year?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Logan

They must have LOVED their draw in the tourney too much.

That's why they play the games.

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Bottom line.. this team just isn't that good.

If 23 wins and a top 30 RPI/NCAA bid is bad in a building year, give me more of that. How quickly we forget what 'not good' really is.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

dola

BIG news for Mizzou fans this morning. Local KC sports radio is reporting that Otto Porter and Ben McLemore have both verbally committed to Mizzou. Landing two of the top 50 nationally ranked recruits on the same weekend, both from Missouri, is a nice consolation prize for what happened last night. Taking a kid that was considered a huge KU lean is even sweeter.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Athough they are currently off to a poor start against Dayton does anyone else see Xavier as a possible sleeper final 4 team this year?

Short answer, no. If you shut down Holloway, they have no other scorers.

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

That's why they play the games.



If 23 wins and a top 30 RPI/NCAA bid is bad in a building year, give me more of that. How quickly we forget what 'not good' really is.

I'm a big Mizzou homer, but their wins this year just don't impress me much. I can count 5 or 6 good ones, but they look horrible on the road and shouldn't be losing as bad as they have to teams like Texas A&M.

Put it this way.. I would be happy to play against them in the tourney if I was the fan of another team who drew them in the first round.

[Swaggs]

Another good Nate Silver sports article. : In N.C.A.A. Tournament, Overachievers Often Disappoint - NYTimes.com

Talking about how teams that overachieve (begin the season unranked and end the regular season in the top 10) almost always have trouble in the postseason. This portion really stands out:

Since the tournament field expanded to 64 teams in 1985, there have been 41 cases in which a school that was unranked to start the season entered the tournament ranked in the A.P. top 10 (excluding a couple of cases where the team was ineligible for tournament play). These schools, as you might expect, were seeded highly: eight were No. 1 seeds and another 17 were seeded No. 2.

Absolutely none of these teams have made the Final Four, however: they are 0-for-41.

And, a little tidbit for sleepers to watch for this season:

This year’s set of underachieving schools — like Gonzaga, Butler, Kansas State and particularly Michigan State — need to be taken on a case-by-case basis, but they are plausible picks to pull off a surprise or two.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by DataKing

But then Coach K is going to leave Duke and go to Columbia, right?

Maybe once Gill flames out you guys can get Duke's football coach.

[molson]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Another good Nate Silver sports article. : In N.C.A.A. Tournament, Overachievers Often Disappoint - NYTimes.com

Talking about how teams that overachieve (begin the season unranked and end the regular season in the top 10) almost always have trouble in the postseason. This portion really stands out:

And, a little tidbit for sleepers to watch for this season:

Very interesting. I would have thought Syracuse in 2003 would have been an exception there but they just missed - unraked in the pre-season, and then up to #13 before the tournament and then winning it as a 3 seed.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Taking a kid that was considered a huge KU lean is even sweeter.

Probably knows at Mizzou he can play right away instead of being stuck behind a stable of All Americans.

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Probably knows at Mizzou he can play right away instead of being stuck behind a stable of All Americans.

He also has no desire to win anything in his collegiate career.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Another good Nate Silver sports article. : In N.C.A.A. Tournament, Overachievers Often Disappoint - NYTimes.com

Talking about how teams that overachieve (begin the season unranked and end the regular season in the top 10) almost always have trouble in the postseason. This portion really stands out:



And, a little tidbit for sleepers to watch for this season:

I must admit I am having a good week of finding interesting things on the internet. This is one of the things that I found interest in. A poll tracker that has the weekly rankings in motion from week to week.

1988-1989 College Basketball AP Poll in Motion - StatSheet.com

Secondly for any baseball historians with help from my friends in the OOTP baseball forum I found this neat little website that does play by play for any game you can imagine.

Back To Baseball - Take me back to the ballgame! Re-live your favorite baseball games of the past

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Probably knows at Mizzou he can play right away instead of being stuck behind a stable of All Americans.

As opposed to picking up the leftover recruits in Missouri like UW.

[Radii]

I don't have any idea what to make of the UNC game today. The turned it over 11 times in the first 10 minutes and fell behind by 19... then came roaring back and won on a last second layup by Tyler Zeller, their only lead of the game. Roy pulled the starters, then pulled the backups and let the walkons play a couple minutes in the first half in disgust at the awful performance.

For about 30 minutes I would have thought Larry Drew was running the team, shades of the Ga Tech debacle a couple months back.

Miami really let Carolina come back, they started running clock way too early and there were like 5 possessions in a row where Miami had shot clock violations or put up awful, awful shots with 2 seconds left on the shot clock.

[Matthean]

Michigan comes back from down 12 in the second half to beat Illinois and lock up a bid to the Big Dance. OSU is next and they played into OT, so it will be interesting to see what OSU has in the tank. Michigan has been close with them so something small like them playing an extra long game might be enough for the upset. It would likely get Michigan a better seed, and who knows, maybe they could pull off something in the 8-9 seed area and that's good enough to give them a decent chance at a first round win. Michigan at one point was a 12 seed lock. Even if the 5-12 match up is known for the 12th seed winning, I would rather not count on it.

[Izulde]

Solid win for UNLV over Air Force last night. Our rebounding and post play continue to be problems overall, though. We really need our perimeter game and defense to be on if we want to win in the Big Dance.

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

As opposed to picking up the leftover recruits in Missouri like UW.

The only player the UW has picked up in Missouri in recent years is Scott Suggs, who was Mr. Basketball and Mr. "Show-Me State" for the Missouri as a senior, 1st-team All-State and the highest-rated prospect in the state that year. Which probably explains why Mizzou offered him a scholarship - too bad they lost out.

Thanks for playing though, always entertaining to hear your own unique brand of ridiculousness.

[molson]

Geez, express a like of any team around here and there's no shortage of people willing to bring you down.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by molson

Geez, express a like of any team around here and there's no shortage of people willing to bring you down.

That's what you guys from, uh, (throw me a bone here- I'm not even sure who to insult... heck, I'll just make something up) North Dakota State would say!

SI

[Young Drachma]

Louisville, Syracuse And Marquette Top Big East In Men’s Basketball Revenue - SportsMoney - news on the business of sports - Forbes

Very interesting.

[Young Drachma]

Dola

Providence fires Keno Davis after 3 years.

Providence Friars say Keno Davis won't return as coach - ESPN

[General Mike]

Earl Walton (one of the 3 refs from the RU-StJohns contraversy) is officiating the Michigan St-Purdue game right now.

[dawgfan]

USC coach Kevin O'Neill has been suspended for the remainder of the Pac-10 Tournament by the school after getting into a heated verbal altercation with an Arizona booster he feels spearheaded his ouster from the Wildcats a few years back:

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=6206993

Money quote:

"We have met with various parties who have knowledge of the incident," USC athletic director Pat Haden said Friday in a statement. "Based on the information we have gathered, I am immediately suspending Coach O'Neill for the balance of the Pac-10 Conference Tournament. We also have set forth additional discipline that will remain private."

You mean like requiring O'Neill to refrain from getting drunk in public immediately following his games?

[Scoobz0202]

Nolan Smith for Duke just went down. Looks to be foot/ankle. Hopefully it's just a minor injury. He was putting very little pressure on said foot, but he was at least limping off on his own.