01-28-2008, 12:38 AM | #1201 |
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question do we know if the fish knows he is a fish? or is it given to an ordinary worker, without thier knowledge?
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01-28-2008, 12:59 AM | #1202 |
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I figure my vote doesn't count for much either way with the stampede on bsak, so I'll let it stand on Passacaglia as a continuing statement.
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01-28-2008, 01:14 AM | #1203 |
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I plan on voting with you tomorrow, Mr. Wednesday
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01-28-2008, 06:05 AM | #1204 |
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01-28-2008, 06:06 AM | #1205 |
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Day 5 Final Count
bsak16 (9)-- path12 (1135), Lathum (1138), Render (1182), Passacaglia (1185), oliegirl (1186), Alan T (1189), The Jackal (1195), Schmidty (1198), ntndeacon (1200) Lathum (1)-- bsak16 (1136) Passacaglia (1)-- Mr. Wednesday (1166) Not Voted: claphamsa, jeheinz72
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01-28-2008, 06:25 AM | #1206 |
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Short and sweet today, guys. I have to get ready for work.
Bsak16 has been FIRED! He was a WOLF (The Crew)! Shortly afterwards... Lathum was FIRED by wolf influence! He was The Veteran! Today is an all-day workday for me, as noted. From now forward, please reach me at [email protected] until 3:30 p.m. PDT, after which just send it here, and I will get back to you when I return late tonight. Deadline is 10 P.M. EST/7 A.M. PDT (still). I will process the day when I return around 2-3 hours later.
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01-28-2008, 06:28 AM | #1207 |
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Today is a WOLF vs WOLF day!
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01-28-2008, 06:34 AM | #1208 |
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Nothing really changes my opinion from yesterday about who to vote for. Obviously Lathum made a reveal and like 4-5 people all voted with him at the same time. I actually didn't think bsak was a wolf, so am a little suprised this morning. I guess I'll have to wait till after the game for someone to explain what happened the previous night between bsak and lathum.
So bsak being a crew either means there are 4 wolves per side, or I'll have to re-evaluate my thoughts on a couple of people I felt could possibly be a wolf. One question Chief before you go, if the fish is converted, and then killed do they show up as a wolf or a fish? Maybe Lathum was right that bsak was the fish afterall. Either way, I notice mr.w still didn't vote for bsak, which once again has him voting in the interests of the crew. (Farrah, fink, bsak) even though it didn't matter for this vote. I still don't think its a good idea to go after him today. I'm sticking with my vote from yesterday for the same reasons I've given the past three days. Vote Passacaglia |
01-28-2008, 07:37 AM | #1209 |
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01-28-2008, 08:32 AM | #1210 |
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Oy, sorry for not getting a vote in over the weekend. Got some bad news that made me basically ignore getting online.
Chief, is there any penalty for not voting? Just want to be sure before I get goin' too much. Got caught up on the thread for the most part (gotta admit there was some skimmage). So are we thinking that there were FOUR wolves per side? If so that's insane. Or would we just not know that one side has been killed off? That really impacts how I'll vote tonight, though I think either way we need to see what we can do to get a cougar today. |
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I was looking for where Alan first started planting the seeds of his case against me -- this is post 486, 494, and 499. I don't think Alan was intending to go after me at this point, but I think he was waiting to see what would happen in the RendeR/fink vote, not really caring if a wolf or villager went (assuming RendeR is a villager). I also wonder if Alan had realized that cronin might have scanned Farrah the day before everyone else did, and that's why cronin died -- the team opposite Farrah killed him, in hopes of exposing Farrah as a wolf. And when I took the bait, Alan was there to start the campaign to "even the score" by pushing me. |
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01-28-2008, 08:45 AM | #1212 |
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Oh, heh, and by the way....
VOTE ALAN T |
01-28-2008, 08:59 AM | #1213 |
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I love being right. ( I knew bsak smelled funny, allthough I have zero knowledge if he was the fish or a wolf from the start)
GL guys, at least something good came from my death. |
01-28-2008, 11:33 AM | #1214 |
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Here's the situation, as far as I can tell.
If each faction had three wolves, there are two cougars left (+ possible fish) If each faction had four wolves, there are three cougars, one crew, and the possibility of the fish. So, it's a wolf vs wolf day. Does that mean there is definitely one member of the crew left? Will we know if we eliminate one of the factions entirely? |
01-28-2008, 11:34 AM | #1215 |
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Yeah I'd like to know if we find out when one group is gone.
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01-28-2008, 11:45 AM | #1216 |
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ps claphamsa has been unusually quiet in this game
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01-28-2008, 12:00 PM | #1217 |
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Vote Pass
He has been someone of note for the last few days. |
01-28-2008, 12:33 PM | #1218 |
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01-28-2008, 12:43 PM | #1219 |
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OK - why should we not vote for you? Save me the trouble of going through pages and pages of posts...tell me why a vote on you is wrong at this point...something other than "I'm a regular worker". And who do you think we should be voting for tonight? |
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olie, this is post 1131 by me (with some bad formatting as I tried to get the post I was replying to in there). I think it might have got lost in the weekend shuffle, but I think it answers your questions. |
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This is Alan pushing me further (post 1148), followed by my response (post 1149). I voted Alan yesterday, until Lathum's reveal caugh bsak for us, then I voted for him today as well, and that's where I think you should vote. |
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01-28-2008, 01:28 PM | #1222 |
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Thanks Pass...I'm not ready to put a vote in yet, need to think on some things...
AlanT, any response/defense to what Pass has posted? |
01-28-2008, 01:30 PM | #1223 |
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I'm not really liking either of the two leaders here at this point (Alan or Pass), and Jackal raises a good point about someone who has just been bothering me with his lack of even his typical mindless posts...
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01-28-2008, 01:31 PM | #1225 |
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Yeah I'd like to hear what Alan has to say about that. It's tough for me missing out on the timing of things to see what Lathum's reveal really interrupted...
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Here's post 1150, in reply to the stuff I said. |
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01-28-2008, 01:36 PM | #1227 |
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01-28-2008, 01:44 PM | #1228 |
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jerk! I havent been quiet I was in NY all weekend!
And I thought I voted.... opppes
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01-28-2008, 01:46 PM | #1229 |
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Oh that's right clap, I did see that note about you being in NY now that I think about it. Nevermind..
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ok i just fgot back from NYC. God that city is filthy!!!! And if somoene couted, I am cruising along with my mindless post count as usual! That being said both Heinze and jackall have comented on this, which means A they are setting me up (both cougars) B they havent read the thread! No one seems to have put any heat on either of them! vote jackall
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still think jackall might be bad, he hasnt said anythign. and thats not him. what do yout hink hainze?
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I guess I can't help but think about the group of people that I don't think is really talking and wonder "Ok, if there might be 4 wolves, then surely some are hiding in the tumbleweeds too"
This group meaning Mr. Wednesday, Schmidty, NTN... I'm leaning towards a vote in that direction today. |
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NTN has been the one of this group that has stood out to me...I'm currently debating on if I want to vote for Pass, AlanT, or NTN, just having a very difficult time deciding where my vote should go... |
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01-28-2008, 01:51 PM | #1234 |
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I am not quite sure what there is for me to respond that Passacaglia has been trying to push off on me. I'm not actually sure what his reason for me being a wolf is. I was around the entire time Fink was on the line and could have moved my vote in a way that likely would have saved him (when he was up by 1 vote already, and only Schmidty left to vote before people flipped their votes around at the deadline), I likewise could have moved my vote in a way to condemn him there as well.
The difference being, I didn't know enough about either Render or Fink that day to make the call, and chose instead to watch where people committed themselves (as Pass even quoted some of that dialogue even though he left out other posts). On that day you saw some make moves to condemn Fink (Such as Sndvls, Passacaglia and mauboy) and others make moves to try to save him (such as Mr.Wednesday and Farrah). We have since learned that Sndvls and Farrah were bad, mauboy is good and the jury is still out on Passacaglia and mr.W. The next day my arguement was that I felt it likely that Farrah and Mr.W were both wolves but on the same side as Fink, I felt we should try to balance up the sides and go after one of the guys who were heavily responsible for Fink's death, as those were highly probably choices of the opposite team's wolves. The people who conversed all seemed pretty opposed to the idea and just wanted to get any wolf they could, to which I said fine, and went that way while strongly saying that I think it would be a mistake that at the end of the game people would come back and agree with me on. I made the vote on Farrah that passacaglia described as "starting" the run on Farrah at that time even though I wasn't the one pushing Farrah for the lynch that day, even though I stated I felt she was a wolf, I wanted to go after the other team. For the record, I was not the only one stating this point. Arles pretty much sided with me completely and made alot of the same cases about the same people. The main difference between Arles and myself was that Arles argued that he felt Path was his #1 wolf choice followed by Passacaglia, while I felt Pass was my #1 after the way he responded following Fink's death. I guess the bottom line is that every step along the way, we still have been unable to push into the block of people who seemed to side with Sndvls (like Passacaglia), and unless there is another reveal today to make me change my mind, I would like to see what Passacaglia's allegience is. |
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Something is definitely up with Jackal. Not sure I can put my finger on it. I actually haven't played with him much (we both ran like all the games at TSW for awhile so we rarely both played, if ever) I could entertain that thought. |
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For some reason I'm getting a good vibe off of you olie. I could see voting NTN if you do. The others I'm just too confused by, I can't sort out fact from fiction in their arguments since I was gone for so long. |
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Dola, and Pass is trying really hard to turn this into a Pass vs Alan arguement. Remember I'm not the only one that has been arguing these things about Pass for days. He just doesn't have much room to stand on pushing it back on Arles since its known that Arles was good, so I'm the only one he has left to strike back at. I don't have any desire to get in a pissing contest here.. heck I might be wrong about Pass too.. I'll let everyone vote how they think is best. I've done so and likely will keep my vote here. There are others who I feel have been just as fishy as Pass this game, but both have done so along the lines of Farrah/Fink/bsak's team and I'm more interested in finding Sndvls's allies at this point.
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I disagree that I'm trying really hard to turn this into a Pass vs. Alan argument. You're the one who voted for me. If you get off my back, I'm less likely to go after you. After all, my whole argument is predicated on the fact that you're trying to kill a villager. Yes, you're not the only one arguing about me -- generally the wolves are a little more organized in their arguments. I don't know exactly what you mean about pushing it back on Arles, but most of Arles actual analysis linked me with mauboy, and his decision to go after me was pretty much a coin flip based on his scan showing mauboy as good -- a scan which we know was random. For those of us that have played a lot, we know that's a red herring. By the way, it's quite gracious of you to let everyone vote how they think is best! We are all very grateful for your permission! |
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You can knock off the sarcasm at any time. It doesn't make me feel you are any less innocent.
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guess I mean it doesn't make me feel you are any less or more likely to be a wolf. It's just dumb. I hate when I try to make analysis and people turn it into personal attacks.
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Sorry if I'm being difficult to understand. Is anyone else having trouble understanding my reason that Alan is a wolf, or is it just him? Yes, you were around the entire time fink was on the line -- but I think at that point in the game, a wolf on the opposite team from him would be equally happy lynching a villager or an opposing wolf. You didn't have your vote on either one of them. That was the day that you said to cronin that you like to keep it close, so we can see where allegiances lie. Your lie with...someone so insignificant I don't even remember who it is. Quote:
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Yes, and Arles is gone now. Like I've said before, I think that does more to push blame on me, and I think that was the design. |
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Again, I really didn't mean to make into a personal attack. Sorry if it came out that way -- if it's about the "permission" comment, I was just poking a little fun at your phrasing. No offense was meant. |
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Sorry clap, I missed that post. And I never actually voted for you...
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I'm not sure I'm going to try and figure out the Pass/Alan thing right now. I can't figure out if they are both good (least likely to my mind), one good and one bad (also a little less likely because why would whichever was the wolf be pushing so hard against the other one?), or both bad (in which case they just might take care of the problem tonight since it's a wolf vs wolf night).
I want to go back and look through the votes of some of the other names that have been bandied around today. I bet we've got a wolf coasting under the radar somewhere.....
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I'm still torn on the Pass/AlanT debate, I just don't know what to think. Everything either of them has said could vouch for them being good, or it could be that they are wolves on opposite teams and are trying to off each other. Since I can't decide which of them I trust, I'm going to just go with my gut and vote on someone I know I don't trust at this point...NTNDeacon. He's been way too quiet throughout the whole game, and we are a week into it at this point...he's a good player, but not as "well known" as RendeR/Path/Pass/Alan/Lathum...I'm worried that he's letting them take the heat and battle things out, and he's just laying low and letting them fight while he is behind the scenes.
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Frankly, I'm tired of the alan VS Pass argument, they're both wolves as far as I can see. neither has any evidence clearing them and both have enough circumstantial stuff to get votes on the other.
I'm not going to choose between them because then I just look like another wolf out to protect someone. Which I am not. However, NTN has indeed been totally under the radar this game. Scheduling issues? maybe, just laying low? probably. Vote NTN |
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