Werewolf CLX - Atlantic City - GAME OVER

[Narcizo]

So what options are there?

a) The wolf can bid on more than one service. Implicating Coffee, Chief, Jackal and me
b) There's a cunning wolf - implicating Path or DV
c) There's been a conversion - implicating DV and another or Path and Jackal
d) Cookies Ladies didn't stop the hitman - implicating mau

[The Jackal]

N1 - $350 on creaky, won
N2 - $100 on casino mngr, lost
N3 - $450 on creaky, lost
N4 - $400 on mick, lost
N5 - $500 on mick, won
N6 - didn't get a bid in
N7 - $5 on donna, won

[Narcizo]

e) There were seven starting wolves - implicating DV and me

[Narcizo]

Can anyone think of something I'm missing?

[The Jackal]

Bets:

D1 - mau, lost
D2 - DT, lost
D3 - brit, lost
D4 - brit, lost
D5 - Danny, won $1,358
D6 - murrayyyyy, lost
D7 - murrayyyyy, lost (man this was a stupid one)

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Can anyone think of something I'm missing?

I think cunning or cookie's not working last night are the most likely options.

[The Jackal]

Could see there being a "mafia don" role, or some such.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I think cunning or cookie's not working last night are the most likely options.

The options that don't have your name next to them I might note.

[Coffee Warlord]

I didn't receive a confirmation message, but I did send the Ladies to mau.

[mauchow]

vote jackal

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

The options that don't have your name next to them I might note.

haha, fair enough

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I didn't receive a confirmation message, but I did send the Ladies to mau.

interesting, is there anyone else still left who has sent ladies?

[Coffee Warlord]

What about Chief?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

interesting, is there anyone else still left who has sent ladies?

just mau it looks like, that doesn't really help

[Narcizo]

I had been wondering about excessive use of the black market leading to the person using them being converted - which would be Path. I don't know if I'm ready to buy Jackal being a wolf though. Just seems an extremely reckless way for him to play as a wolf.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by mauchow

vote jackal

so you think me outing font was a long con?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

so you think me outing font was a long con?

and you think i could bid on two services last night?

[mauchow]

I didn't get a confirmation that I sent ladies to dt..

I however did have a blast with three chicks last night.

[The Jackal]

I think it's much more likely that cookies' ladies didn't work than someone was able to bid on two services, so I immediately look at mau over CR.

[Narcizo]

The bids on day Three and Five really make me think that mau isn't a wolf.

[Narcizo]

Bids and bets everyone and someone should put them together. If nothing else it's really going to make the wolf work to make sure their report matches. I remember the nightmare I had in the Rome game when I was a wolf trying to make sure that my bids were actually possible.

[The Jackal]

I also forgot to mention that brit transferred $452 to me before he was lynched, I never got confirmation from Autumn that went through (was a perk of the dating service), but there's a little extra cash.

[Narcizo]

At the moment I'm leaning towards DV or Path being a cunning or converted, either works.

[Narcizo]

Wonder if Path using the black market put him in debt to the mob and allowed them to force him to make a bid. Which opens the field for it being Chief, Coffee, Jackal or me.

[Coffee Warlord]

Hmm.

What day did DV get scanned?

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Wonder if Path using the black market put him in debt to the mob and allowed them to force him to make a bid. Which opens the field for it being Chief, Coffee, Jackal or me.

Well, I can vouch that you sent me a message, so you shouldn't be on that list.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Hmm.

What day did DV get scanned?

N3 by Narc

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

N3 by Narc

You know, we've been assuming that the crooked cop was used on brit to make him look bad, but what if the celebrity would always look fishy if scanned?

Isn't it more feasible that the crooked cop was used on DV the night Narc scanned him?

[Coffee Warlord]

I thought the crooked cop worked the other way - made someone look bad. I was actually trying to find the service that 'cleaned a record'.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

You know, we've been assuming that the crooked cop was used on brit to make him look bad, but what if the celebrity would always look fishy if scanned?

Isn't it more feasible that the crooked cop was used on DV the night Narc scanned him?

Plus, DV scanned brit as being bad right? So we don't even know if that was a legit scan, we just believed it because he was trusted.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Well, I can vouch that you sent me a message, so you shouldn't be on that list.

Well what I mean is that the wolf could make his own bid and use the service and then make another bid and use a service by proxy of Path, for one night. Because Path is indebted to the mob.

Of course, I shouldn't have mentioned this until Path reports on what he knows but I suck at this sort of thing.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I thought the crooked cop worked the other way - made someone look bad. I was actually trying to find the service that 'cleaned a record'.

Yeah - Trayvon Michaels, crooked cop - he doesn't mind helping make someone look dirty

Wonder if it could work both ways, but that's a reach I guess.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

so you think me outing font was a long con?

No I don't. Its me being illogical like you.

unvote jackal

C'mon don't start hatching silly ideas like ladies not working and being able to bid on two items as mafia when there are better ideas. Lets go the logical route and use cw and myself as a little higher on the cot totem pole today and get chief and whoever else needs looking at involved in the lynch today.

vote chief

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Plus, DV scanned brit as being bad right? So we don't even know if that was a legit scan, we just believed it because he was trusted.

The wording of the lynch message seems to indicate he was framed.

[The Jackal]

I still think it's very unlikely someone could have bid on two services. The indebted part makes more sense as a possibility, but it still means I am most likely picking from mau, DV, and path today.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

The wording of the lynch message seems to indicate he was framed.

True. I'll let that idea go for now.

[mauchow]

There was definitely a day where there was a judge who could clean up a record. I doubt the ceooked cop would have same effect as the judge if the judge is a character in this game.

My internet is extremely spotty right now so...

[Coffee Warlord]

Going through the old tried and true vote records. I'm working under the assumption we have 1 more Vegas mobster, to make it a 3-3 start.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by mauchow

No I don't. Its me being illogical like you.

unvote jackal

C'mon don't start hatching silly ideas like ladies not working and being able to bid on two items as mafia when there are better ideas. Lets go the logical route and use cw and myself as a little higher on the cot totem pole today and get chief and whoever else needs looking at involved in the lynch today.

vote chief

I'm not a huge fan of the way chief's early votes went, but if we are voting him then you have to believe that 1) he could bid on two things last night, 2) path was forced into a bid, or 3) there is more than one wolf left

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by mauchow

There was definitely a day where there was a judge who could clean up a record. I doubt the ceooked cop would have same effect as the judge if the judge is a character in this game.

My internet is extremely spotty right now so...

Yeah no one bought the judge though

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by mauchow

Lets go the logical route and use cw and myself as a little higher on the cot totem pole today and get chief and whoever else needs looking at involved in the lynch today.

I read this, and read this and I don't just see the logic in what you're saying.

Who put the bid in on the wire service if Chief made the hit?

[Narcizo]

Anyway, got to go now. See you laters.

[Coffee Warlord]

Mick "Stones" McGee - $2 - Claimed by Chief Rum
Donna Black Investigations - $5 - Claimed by Jackal
Cookie's Ladies - $1 - Claimed by Coffee
Sandy Back Messenger Service - $3 - Claimed by Narcizo

Coffee Warlord
Narcizo
Chief Rum
The Jackal
Mauchow

Darth Vilus
Path12

Unless someone comes forward and refutes the bid claims, we have 5 people who could not have used the NK last night. Out of 7. (Mau is in there because I sent him hookers).

It's path or DV.

[mauchow]

Okay. I see. Well I will try to see a more logical route then.

I understand me not bidding on anything yesterday makes me look bad but.. I didn't bid on anything. Not everyone has claimed a bid so we need to look at those people.

[Coffee Warlord]

Not everyone includes...path or DV.

[mauchow]

Yup I agree cw. Based on last nights scan I think we need to kill path tonight and scan dv again.

[Coffee Warlord]

Both would be equally likely, if it's a cunning role. Both have been scanned.

[mauchow]

Or vice versa I guess.

[mauchow]

unvote chief
Vote path

Well I'll go one of these two today then..

I didn't put a bet in today.

[The Jackal]

D1:

mau votes font as the first vote

path votes zinto as the second vote

DV votes JAG to make it 2-2 with CW, zinto and font both having 1

D2:

mau votes murrayyyyy with the first vote, switches to DV on the back of JAG, then font after my reveal

path votes mau to put him up 3-2 over DV, doesn't switch (maybe didn't check in after reveals)

DV votes mau to put him up 4-2 as self defense, doesn't switch either

D3:

mau votes brit to put him at 2, zinto has one vote at the time, stays there

path votes murrayyyyy to put him at 2, zinto has one vote at the time, switches to DT and stays

DV doesn't vote

D4:

mau and path both vote DT

DV doesn't vote