07-09-2007, 09:48 AM | #1201 |
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Anyway, when Pass threw that potion at me yesterday we became bonded. We were allowed to message one another and talk. We were afraid that the wolves would try to kill one of us in hopes of killing us both... Well thank goodness that didn't work. So when Pass died I got everything he found in the library last night, an acid knife recipe and a mind control recipe... Also, I when Pass died I could feel his pain and there was only one name that popped into my head...
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07-09-2007, 09:50 AM | #1202 |
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Ahh. Excellent. That is indeed good news.
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07-09-2007, 09:51 AM | #1203 |
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BTW, my night PM indicated that the holy water watched over me last night. So it's a shame, in many ways, that they attacked Pass instead of me. However, we will be able to do a 1-1 trade here, it seems, so that's not bad at all.
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07-09-2007, 09:51 AM | #1204 |
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But there is another wolf out there, and I have 4 spells that could really help the village out, but I need some ingredients
I would love vitroil, invisible powder, newt tail (I know somebody has this) dark tea leaves and a ceremonial dagger. If anybody sends me these you would definitely be cleared in my book |
07-09-2007, 10:05 AM | #1205 | |
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No offense LSG, but was this actually IN your PM or are you making this leap of understanding based on the fact that you already had me as a target today? |
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07-09-2007, 10:28 AM | #1206 |
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RendeR, it is going to be hard to sway people from trusting LSG today given that Pass cleared her with his last post before dying.
As a villager, why would she make something up? Congrats on your first time as a wolf after an early run of villager games. VOTE RENDER |
07-09-2007, 10:30 AM | #1207 |
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Also, I found a potion last night that could probably be equally helpful to both sides. The ingredients are parsley and lizard tail. If someone feels like moving those in my direction I would be grateful.
Alternatively, I can pass the potion to someone else to make use of it if there are any concerns about how I'm presenting info here. |
07-09-2007, 10:34 AM | #1208 |
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I'm jsut trying to verify that she was actually told that information and not simply infering it on her own. No need for her to lie about anything, she just believes I'm a wolf and because of her clearance by pass she can easily influence everyone.
Just want calrification. I'm not dead yet, I may still find a way to vindicate myself! |
07-09-2007, 10:35 AM | #1209 |
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07-09-2007, 10:36 AM | #1210 |
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Anyway, I have a job interview, so I will be back in a couple of hours. If anybody has any of those ingredients I mentioned before, please send them my way!
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07-09-2007, 10:47 AM | #1211 |
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No ingredients here, just two potions. I held onto the one that NTN had passed me (had a conditional to pass it if I was lynched) yesterday. Sorry I can't help here, LSG.
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07-09-2007, 10:53 AM | #1212 |
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Probably just some reaction to a bad pepper or something |
07-09-2007, 11:04 AM | #1213 |
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Wow, the early part of this game was just brutal for us.
Day 1 - no lynch Day 2 - no wolves in mix (think this is a small assumption at this point) Day 3 - no wolves in mix (again, small assumption) Day 4 - extended weekend play, very late run to get our first wolf |
07-09-2007, 11:08 AM | #1214 |
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Sounds pretty clear.
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07-09-2007, 11:19 AM | #1215 | |
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I was in the great hall again last night and that was what I ended up researching. It is definitely a potion you want to throw at someone you trust.
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07-09-2007, 11:21 AM | #1216 | |
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I'm not. Pass was the one person that most everyone trusted. Folks like you and I are still in the mix (or you were until Pass cleared you), so are not as appealing a night target.
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07-09-2007, 11:22 AM | #1217 |
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Alan, are you playing with the nightfall option?
If this is in play, do people see a benefit to extended conversation on LSG vs RendeR today in lieu of voting nightfall? |
07-09-2007, 11:23 AM | #1218 |
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Actually, if the wolves didn't know what the Eternal Bond did then they may have been hoping for a two-for-one play by killing Pass. Probably not expecting, but the possibility made me think that it was almost a sure thing that Pass was going down last night.
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07-09-2007, 11:25 AM | #1219 | |
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My thought is that we very well could have been wolf/wolf yesterday since it's no secret that hoops remains very high on my radar due to his uncharacteristic mistatements. However, if I take the tack that hoops is a villager, then I'm not sure what to think now that LSG is cleared and I know I'm good. Possibly one of the early votes on Ardent didn't expect the run that developed. I don't think there was a reason to toss him under the bus unless it was a move designed to gain trust.
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07-09-2007, 11:26 AM | #1220 | |
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If everyone votes nightfall, I can accelerate that, however there is obviously more that can go on today than just the vote. |
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07-09-2007, 11:27 AM | #1221 | |
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Well! Nice. VOTE RENDER
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07-09-2007, 11:28 AM | #1222 |
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Here's a history of the votes. I think Render's late switch onto hoops should have been the nail in the coffin (giving hoops a two vote lead) and is further proof that he is bad. I also think it would strongly suggest that the bad guys did concentrate their votes on hoops meaning we should be looking at path, not hoops tomorrow. I want to make that point again and again in case I go down tonight: go after path, not hoops tomorrow.
842 --Path votes for hoopsguy (hoopsguy 1) 911 – hoopsguy votes for path (hoopsguy 1, path 1) 925 – LSG votes for hoopsguy (hoops 2, path 1) 939 – BK votes for LSG (hoops 2, path 1, LSG 1) 940 – Render votes for LSG (hoops 2, LSG 2, path 1) 941 – Pass votes for hoops (hoops 3, LSG 2, path 1) 967 – ntn votes for LSG (hoops 3, LSG 3, path 1) 973 – AE votes for hoops (hoops 4, LSG 3, path 1) 980 – BK unvotes LSG, votes for path (hoops 4, LSG 2, path 2) 986 – CR votes for path (hoops 4, path 3, LSG 2) 1006 – CR unvotes path, votes AE (hoops 4, path 2, LSG 2, AE 1) NOTE: In 1009 ntn claims his vote is on path not LSG, though I did not find that vote and hoops also had that vote recorded incorrectly 1014 – hoops unvotes path, votes AE (hoops 4, LSG 2, AE 2, path 1) 1015 – ntn votes for AE (hoops 4, AE 3, LSG 1, path 1) 1026 – Render unvotes LSG, votes hoops (hoops 5, AE 3, path 1) 1069 – bk unvotes path, votes ardent (hoops 5, AE 4) 1071 – Pass unvotes hoops, votes AE (AE 5, hoops 4) |
07-09-2007, 11:29 AM | #1223 | |
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07-09-2007, 11:29 AM | #1224 | |
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There is no way that I would have, as a wolf, tried to set up wolf vs wolf. If I was in that position, I would take one for the team and try to obscure everyone else while taking as many villagers with me as possible. You've been on my team when I've done exactly that (Schmidty's "Thing" game). |
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07-09-2007, 11:29 AM | #1225 |
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I don't see the value in nightfall as all that would mean is an extended night and I'm not sure the night does us any better than day.
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07-09-2007, 11:30 AM | #1226 | |
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07-09-2007, 11:33 AM | #1227 |
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I understand that, Barkeep. However, your analysis is wrong. I am absolutely clueless about your and hoops' suspicions of me. I do not understand it at all based on what I've done and said (not to mention the fact that I was one of the people Pass trusted due to our interactions), and the simple fact that you continue to push towards me really seems wolfish.
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07-09-2007, 11:34 AM | #1228 |
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By the way LSG, the only ingredient I have is sour milk.
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07-09-2007, 11:35 AM | #1230 |
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I won't vote nightfall anyway, obviously =)
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07-09-2007, 11:41 AM | #1231 |
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07-09-2007, 11:43 AM | #1232 |
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I may well end up lynched, but I may also have something else to do during the day and who knows, I might just save my own arse. One never knows until the gallows calls =)
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07-09-2007, 11:47 AM | #1233 |
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This concerns me. It appears that the wolves might be able to do something with a potion. I ask again if anyone needs either of the ingredients I have.
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07-09-2007, 11:50 AM | #1234 | |
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I might just be talking out my ass too, but only the shadow knows.... |
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07-09-2007, 11:55 AM | #1235 | |
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I applaud the effort and hope that you bring something to the table that makes us think about the decision. Or at least entertains us. From personal experience, it isn't much fun being in your spot if you don't have an audience (guilty or innocent). But if you do have an audience, it can be a really rewarding part of WW to change hearts and minds. |
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07-09-2007, 12:00 PM | #1236 | |
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Negative. Neither potion that I have calls for a cactus bulb or yellow flower. I'm looking for the following: - mushrooms - chamomile (to combine with mushrooms) - parsley - lizard tail (to combine with parsley) I believe both of these potions could have value to either side going down the stretch. I also know that some people should know what the first one is, but I don't believe the second one has been discussed yet. |
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07-09-2007, 12:03 PM | #1237 |
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LoneStarGirl, it sounds like you had a mini-arsenal at your disposal last night. Do we have any synergies between potions/ingredients based on what you have and what BK (cactus bulb, yellow flower), Path (sour milk) and I have presented today?
NTN, do you have any stuff that we can use, or need any of the above stuff? |
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Well, it appears I have nothing to lose, true?
So lets look at the facts: There is more than one potion that can/should protect or heal someone. We've already seen the results of the holy water. There are obviously enough items to make more than one potion of any given type and as others have worked out, there is more than one way to make any given potion. I almost feinted a few pages back when someone mentione me in one post and then posted later about a wolf or wolves hoarding items. I'll state it clearly, I've got almost 2 dozen items, some of which are already mixed into potions some are awaiting the proerp time to be passed or used as needed. I have any number of options: I can take someone with me, probably not something you villagers will be bothered by. I can protect myself from harm, thereby wasting your lynch altogether tonight. I can heal myself, thereby wasting your lynch altogether tonight. I can convert someone, thereby utterly screwing up your CoT and setting you back to square 1 with a still 5-2 ratio. and 2 completely uknown wolves. There are a couple other options which , for now, I'll keep under my cloak. Go ahead, Lynch away. I'll get my pound of flesh. |
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Ah, the taunting wolf. That is an oldie but a goodie
If you could go ahead and tell us the rest of your master plan, and how you would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for us meddling kids that would be icing on the cake. |
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07-09-2007, 12:25 PM | #1242 |
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I think if you could really do all that stuff you'd just do some of it. There appears to be no value in telling us all those options if you truly could do all of them.
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07-09-2007, 12:26 PM | #1243 |
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And I'll admit that even if half those things are true that Redner just said to being frustrated with this game.
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07-09-2007, 12:26 PM | #1244 |
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Hi Telle! You should consider joining in this fun.
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only thing I have in addition to that is another spell ...but we already know it. |
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07-09-2007, 12:54 PM | #1247 |
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I would need newt tail and ground up glass fiber for the new potion I recieved
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07-09-2007, 12:55 PM | #1248 | |
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I THINK I understood this, but it came out very confusing =) |
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07-09-2007, 01:00 PM | #1249 |
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If there is no found synergy between the items we have available does it make sense to try and mix them anyway and then attempt to research them?
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07-09-2007, 01:05 PM | #1250 | |
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Ok we'll try this again, with commas: I'll admit that, even if half those things are true that Render just said, to being frustrated with this game. Does that work better Render? |
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