Werewolf XXXIII: To Crown a King 2 (Game Over) - Page 25

kingfc22 · 10-01-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

I am quite possibly one of the most vouched for without anyone vouching for me. I have the two people from the PM snafu plus my guild.

That would make you a perfect convesion target wouldn't you say?

Why would the assassins try to convert me. I have been on the chopping block for 2-3 days to go to jail, that would make no sense for them to go after me.

BrianD · 10-01-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

If there was some way to be sure that king had not been converted, I would agree with releasing him. But we know SOMEBODY has been converted.

Well we don't KNOW, but I think it is a fair assumption.

LoneStarGirl · 10-01-2006, 10:16 PM

Well it wont hurt to keep king in jail until we see a night action.

st.cronin · 10-01-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

That would make you a perfect convesion target wouldn't you say?

Why would the assassins try to convert me. I have been on the chopping block for 2-3 days to go to jail, that would make no sense for them to go after me.

Remember, the conversion happened on night 1. So, this defense means nothing.

ntndeacon · 10-01-2006, 10:17 PM

we will have a better idea after the next execution too, since doesn't the converted one's points go to the assassins faction?

Abe Sargent · 10-01-2006, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

That would make you a perfect convesion target wouldn't you say?

Why would the assassins try to convert me. I have been on the chopping block for 2-3 days to go to jail, that would make no sense for them to go after me.

There is no "conversion target" there are just a handful of predetermined oases.

st.cronin · 10-01-2006, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

Well we don't KNOW, but I think it is a fair assumption.

No, we know that. See post 1072. 4 fast talking nobles, then 3 fast talking nobles, after a night with no kill.

LoneStarGirl · 10-01-2006, 10:28 PM

So we know there was a fast talking noble, the bad guys tried to kill him, and instead he got converted. And he is still lurking around in his faction and nobody knows except the other 2 assassins. Brilliant!

st.cronin · 10-01-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

So we know there was a fast talking noble, the bad guys tried to kill him, and instead he got converted. And he is still lurking around in his faction and nobody knows except the other 2 assassins. Brilliant!

That's why I think we need to execute, regardless of vouching.

LoneStarGirl · 10-01-2006, 10:41 PM

I acn easily change my vote St Cronin, just tell me why you think King was the one that got converted?

ntndeacon · 10-01-2006, 10:43 PM

Bullet or Brian,
Assuming that one of you know your fourth member, do your points add up. if not by how much if you don't mind revealing that info. would the 1.5 points that I think that King recieved after day one make you closer to or farther away from your total of 6?

st.cronin · 10-01-2006, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I acn easily change my vote St Cronin, just tell me why you think King was the one that got converted?

I don't have any idea whether he was converted or not. But nobody has said "I scanned him night 2 and he was clean." Absent that, if he's suspicious enough to get tossed in jail, he should be executed.

bulletsponge · 10-01-2006, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Bullet or Brian,
Assuming that one of you know your fourth member, do your points add up. if not by how much if you don't mind revealing that info. would the 1.5 points that I think that King recieved after day one make you closer to or farther away from your total of 6?

cant help ya there

Fouts · 10-01-2006, 11:10 PM

Lets think about who the assassins would have targeted to kill on night 1, and hit a fast talking noble. They are killing off the most vocal veterans in the game. Who might they target before blade and hoops? My guess is Lathum, Anxiety or Brian. Not Qwik or King.

Change No Execute to Free King

Fouts · 10-01-2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Bullet or Brian,
Assuming that one of you know your fourth member, do your points add up. if not by how much if you don't mind revealing that info. would the 1.5 points that I think that King recieved after day one make you closer to or farther away from your total of 6?

I don't think King voted on day one.

st.cronin · 10-01-2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Lets think about who the assassins would have targeted to kill on night 1, and hit a fast talking noble. They are killing off the most vocal veterans in the game. Who might they target before blade and hoops? My guess is Lathum, Anxiety or Brian. Not Qwik or King.

Change No Execute to Free King

Or you.

Lathum · 10-01-2006, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Lets think about who the assassins would have targeted to kill on night 1, and hit a fast talking noble. They are killing off the most vocal veterans in the game. Who might they target before blade and hoops? My guess is Lathum, Anxiety or Brian. Not Qwik or King.

Change No Execute to Free King

i think that's a compliment

ntndeacon · 10-01-2006, 11:23 PM

Unvote No Execution
Vote Free King

ntndeacon · 10-01-2006, 11:40 PM

Dola
We almost had Grey in the slammer before. No one claimed him and all of us that were on him got off of him the next day.
Vote Jail Grey

Abe Sargent · 10-01-2006, 11:59 PM

I've voted Grey twice, no reason not to continue that trend now, ntndeacon.

Vote Jail Greyroofoo

st.cronin · 10-02-2006, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

Lets think about who the assassins would have targeted to kill on night 1, and hit a fast talking noble. They are killing off the most vocal veterans in the game. Who might they target before blade and hoops? My guess is Lathum, Anxiety or Brian. Not Qwik or King.

Change No Execute to Free King

King is actually an experienced player as well, and I don't think it inconceivable that the assasins would have targeted him night 1. We've gotten in trouble in other games by suggesting that such and such a player is experienced, therefore the bad guys would have targeted him. I don't find your argument compelling enough to release him.

Fouts · 10-02-2006, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

King is actually an experienced player as well, and I don't think it inconceivable that the assasins would have targeted him night 1. We've gotten in trouble in other games by suggesting that such and such a player is experienced, therefore the bad guys would have targeted him. I don't find your argument compelling enough to release him.

I'm not arguing to release him, I think bullet and brian are. I'm just posting my thoughts on who could have been converted on night 1.

bulletsponge · 10-02-2006, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I'm not arguing to release him, I think bullet and brian are. I'm just posting my thoughts on who could have been converted on night 1.

im just trying to keep him from getting killed

Chief Rum · 10-02-2006, 07:30 AM

All right, after a week of vacation, I had back to the slave mines today. I will be out all day today working both jobs (and tomorrow, and Wednesday, sheesh...).

So I need to put in a vote now, as I won't be able to get back in until well after deadline, sometime later tonight.

Unfortunately, there is not really a lot for me to go on right now. So I will have tp continue to go on gut.

VOTE NO EXECUTE
VOTE JAIL GREYROOFOO

BrianD · 10-02-2006, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

No, we know that. See post 1072. 4 fast talking nobles, then 3 fast talking nobles, after a night with no kill.

You are right, I forgot about that. I knew there was a reason I thought we were looking for 4 people to add up to the assassin total, but I forgot where the 4th came from.

BrianD · 10-02-2006, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Bullet or Brian,
Assuming that one of you know your fourth member, do your points add up. if not by how much if you don't mind revealing that info. would the 1.5 points that I think that King recieved after day one make you closer to or farther away from your total of 6?

I know our fourth member, and our points add up to exactly 6...including the 1.5 points that King received.

I would just like to state for the record that I think my whole faction is insane.

Lathum · 10-02-2006, 08:25 AM

VOTE JAIL GREYROOFOO

more preservation then anything else. Also

unvote execute kingfc22

I guess if enough people are willing to vouch for him i doesn't make sense to kill a noble, but I think we are kind of spinning our wheels.

BrianD · 10-02-2006, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

VOTE JAIL GREYROOFOO

more preservation then anything else. Also

unvote execute kingfc22

I guess if enough people are willing to vouch for him i doesn't make sense to kill a noble, but I think we are kind of spinning our wheels.

We are spinning our wheels, and that is partly my fault. If I had been around when the vote turned against King, I would have worked to get him cleared. For now I'll join the Grey vote. He isn't on the top of my list, but he is on my list.

Free Kingfc22
Jail Greyroofoo

ntndeacon · 10-02-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I don't think King voted on day one.

Sory idid not respond to this last night. You are right he did not vote on day one, but that -0.5 would have been with your group regardless if king was turned or not. That is why iasked about the 1.5 points King would have gotten since the 1st night (jailing and executing Qwik) if he was converted those points would have been the assassins points not points for Faction D.

ntndeacon · 10-02-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

I know our fourth member, and our points add up to exactly 6...including the 1.5 points that King received.

I would just like to state for the record that I think my whole faction is insane.

Thanks Brian,

I had that sort of figured out, but wanted verification of my findings. This makes me even more sure that king has not been turned into an assassin.

BrianD · 10-02-2006, 10:47 AM

I just had a thought. Since Blade was a leader and has been killed, if one of his faction had been turned, that person wouldn't get messages from the new leader (if I read the rules right). You guys might want to send through another code to make sure everyone on your team is still really on your team. Of course my guess is that there are only 2 members left in that faction, so maybe this wouldn't work too well...

ntndeacon · 10-02-2006, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

I just had a thought. Since Blade was a leader and has been killed, if one of his faction had been turned, that person wouldn't get messages from the new leader (if I read the rules right). You guys might want to send through another code to make sure everyone on your team is still really on your team. Of course my guess is that there are only 2 members left in that faction, so maybe this wouldn't work too well...

Blade was not in the faction of anyone else who had died.

bulletsponge · 10-02-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

I know our fourth member, and our points add up to exactly 6...including the 1.5 points that King received.

I would just like to state for the record that I think my whole faction is insane.

is he (or she) one of the peeps i suspected in earlier messages?

whatever you do keep it a secret, dont spill it in the open

BrianD · 10-02-2006, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

is he (or she) one of the peeps i suspected in earlier messages?

whatever you do keep it a secret, dont spill it in the open

Nope. I won't mention who it is, but you should be able to figure it out.

BrianD · 10-02-2006, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Blade was not in the faction of anyone else who had died.

Ok, I wasn't sure which faction he was in. Apparently I was wrong with my guess. I'm assuming that either he was in your faction, or the other two that died were?

Barkeep49 · 10-02-2006, 06:14 PM

Wow. Lots of stuff yesterday and then nothing in the last two hours? I will be back home around lynch, perhaps a bit after.

Fouts · 10-02-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

Ok, I wasn't sure which faction he was in. Apparently I was wrong with my guess. I'm assuming that either he was in your faction, or the other two that died were?

I think he meant that blade was in his faction. How else would he know?

If the people in blade's faction do not dispute NTN's claim, he should be ok.

Fouts · 10-02-2006, 07:13 PM

Anyone with a current vote? I believe Grey or Lathum are leading. This is about the time that people should be vouching for them.

LoneStarGirl · 10-02-2006, 07:14 PM

anybody have an uptodate vote count? I can't even remember who i voted for it was so long ago.

Fouts · 10-02-2006, 08:10 PM

This is what I have;

King (who can't vote)

execute (1) - st.cronin
free (7) - bullet, LSG, Anxiety, Fouts, NTN, Brian, Lathum
No Execute (2) - realdeal, Chief Rum

No vote - Grey, WVU, Schmidty

Jail

Anxiety (1) - st.cronin
Lathum (4) - bullet, Fouts, realdeal, LSG
Grey (5)- NTN, Anxiety, Chief Rum, Lathum, Brian

No vote - Grey, WVU, Schmidty

Fouts · 10-02-2006, 08:12 PM

Oops, forgot. Nothing from SnDvls yet, either.

Fouts · 10-02-2006, 08:29 PM

Hmm, nobody cares eh? I wish I were an assassin in this one, would be like shooting fish in a barrell.

Mr. Wednesday · 10-02-2006, 08:30 PM

I care.

BrianD · 10-02-2006, 08:32 PM

3 no-votes? Disappointing.

Fouts · 10-02-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

3 no-votes? Disappointing.

I think Grey is going to be executed tomorrow, unless somebody speaks up for him. Even then, his faction will take a lot of heat for letting him be jailed.

BrianD · 10-02-2006, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fouts

I think Grey is going to be executed tomorrow, unless somebody speaks up for him. Even then, his faction will take a lot of heat for letting him be jailed.

He should be for inactivity. Is it just me, or has this game been particularly bad for participation?

Lathum · 10-02-2006, 08:42 PM

I am wondering if the fact that the game is somewhat complicated is discouriging people to participate. This is by ne means a knock on barkeeps game it's just something I was thinking about.

Lathum · 10-02-2006, 08:43 PM

dola- I also agree grey is probably a goner tomorrow.

BrianD · 10-02-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I am wondering if the fact that the game is somewhat complicated is discouriging people to participate. This is by ne means a knock on barkeeps game it's just something I was thinking about.

It isn't really that bad though. There is some interesting strategy with the points, but it is still just a hunt for werewolves. Maybe it is just the fact that I'm so intrigued by this game design that I find it disappointing that we won't really get to see how well it works.

Barkeep49 · 10-02-2006, 08:45 PM

I think it's hard to seperate out the game being complicated and the switch to the new forum. I think it's going to take a while for the games to build back up.

10-01-2006, 11:59 PM	#1220
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10-02-2006, 07:30 AM	#1224
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	All right, after a week of vacation, I had back to the slave mines today. I will be out all day today working both jobs (and tomorrow, and Wednesday, sheesh...). So I need to put in a vote now, as I won't be able to get back in until well after deadline, sometime later tonight. Unfortunately, there is not really a lot for me to go on right now. So I will have tp continue to go on gut. VOTE NO EXECUTE VOTE JAIL GREYROOFOO __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

10-02-2006, 08:30 PM	#1243
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10-01-2006, 10:16 PM	#1203
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Well it wont hurt to keep king in jail until we see a night action.

10-01-2006, 10:17 PM	#1205
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	we will have a better idea after the next execution too, since doesn't the converted one's points go to the assassins faction?

10-01-2006, 10:28 PM	#1208
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	So we know there was a fast talking noble, the bad guys tried to kill him, and instead he got converted. And he is still lurking around in his faction and nobody knows except the other 2 assassins. Brilliant!

10-01-2006, 10:41 PM	#1210
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	I acn easily change my vote St Cronin, just tell me why you think King was the one that got converted?

10-01-2006, 10:43 PM	#1211
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Bullet or Brian, Assuming that one of you know your fourth member, do your points add up. if not by how much if you don't mind revealing that info. would the 1.5 points that I think that King recieved after day one make you closer to or farther away from your total of 6?

10-01-2006, 11:10 PM	#1214
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Lets think about who the assassins would have targeted to kill on night 1, and hit a fast talking noble. They are killing off the most vocal veterans in the game. Who might they target before blade and hoops? My guess is Lathum, Anxiety or Brian. Not Qwik or King. Change No Execute to Free King

10-01-2006, 11:23 PM	#1218
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Unvote No Execution Vote Free King

10-01-2006, 11:40 PM	#1219
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Dola We almost had Grey in the slammer before. No one claimed him and all of us that were on him got off of him the next day. Vote Jail Grey

10-02-2006, 08:25 AM	#1227
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	VOTE JAIL GREYROOFOO more preservation then anything else. Also unvote execute kingfc22 I guess if enough people are willing to vouch for him i doesn't make sense to kill a noble, but I think we are kind of spinning our wheels.

10-02-2006, 10:47 AM	#1231
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I just had a thought. Since Blade was a leader and has been killed, if one of his faction had been turned, that person wouldn't get messages from the new leader (if I read the rules right). You guys might want to send through another code to make sure everyone on your team is still really on your team. Of course my guess is that there are only 2 members left in that faction, so maybe this wouldn't work too well...

10-02-2006, 06:14 PM	#1236
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Wow. Lots of stuff yesterday and then nothing in the last two hours? I will be back home around lynch, perhaps a bit after.

10-02-2006, 07:13 PM	#1238
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Anyone with a current vote? I believe Grey or Lathum are leading. This is about the time that people should be vouching for them.

10-02-2006, 07:14 PM	#1239
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	anybody have an uptodate vote count? I can't even remember who i voted for it was so long ago.

10-02-2006, 08:10 PM	#1240
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	This is what I have; King (who can't vote) execute (1) - st.cronin free (7) - bullet, LSG, Anxiety, Fouts, NTN, Brian, Lathum No Execute (2) - realdeal, Chief Rum No vote - Grey, WVU, Schmidty Jail Anxiety (1) - st.cronin Lathum (4) - bullet, Fouts, realdeal, LSG Grey (5)- NTN, Anxiety, Chief Rum, Lathum, Brian No vote - Grey, WVU, Schmidty

10-02-2006, 08:12 PM	#1241
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Oops, forgot. Nothing from SnDvls yet, either.

10-02-2006, 08:29 PM	#1242
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Hmm, nobody cares eh? I wish I were an assassin in this one, would be like shooting fish in a barrell.

10-02-2006, 08:32 PM	#1244
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	3 no-votes? Disappointing.

10-02-2006, 08:42 PM	#1247
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I am wondering if the fact that the game is somewhat complicated is discouriging people to participate. This is by ne means a knock on barkeeps game it's just something I was thinking about.

10-02-2006, 08:43 PM	#1248
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	dola- I also agree grey is probably a goner tomorrow.

10-02-2006, 08:45 PM	#1250
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I think it's hard to seperate out the game being complicated and the switch to the new forum. I think it's going to take a while for the games to build back up.

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