WW LXVII - Heroes (GAME OVER! HEROES WIN!)

[Lathum]

OK, I have some info coming

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Lathum

OK, I have some info coming

Sweet nectar.

[Thomkal]

well I chose to spy on grey last night as he was the other person in danger of being voted out at the time I sent my order in. Unfortunately I believe I am the victim of the same person who sent Alan that Viagra ad. It wasn't a Viagra ad, but something to increase their sexual sensations in bed. Then it went on to some other weird stuff. I have no idea if it means anything in the game or not. Probably not I guess, just a quirky way of saying my power was blocked. There is a chance of my powers failing, and its possible that could have happened here too.

[The Jackal]

So, let me get this straight.

Alan targeted hoops, and Thomkal targeted GRF, and you got similar messages?

[Lathum]

I am Micah. One of my abilities is every other night I can talk to someones computer and basicly get the last PM they sent.

I spoke to nfg22's, something just didn't feel right about his reveal. Without a direct quote of his PM it basicly said

The GRF plan backfired bigtime, the way things are going it looks like you are on your own.

If this is too close I'm sorry JeHeinze.

I wasn't told who the pm was sent to I was just able to look at a copy of it basicly.

[Thomkal]

It appears that way Jackal from what I got.

[Lathum]

vote nfg22

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I am Micah. One of my abilities is every other night I can talk to someones computer and basicly get the last PM they sent.

I spoke to nfg22's, something just didn't feel right about his reveal. Without a direct quote of his PM it basicly said

The GRF plan backfired bigtime, the way things are going it looks like you are on your own.

If this is too close I'm sorry JeHeinze.

I wasn't told who the pm was sent to I was just able to look at a copy of it basicly.

I didn't do a great job seperating what he said from the rest. The jist of the PM is bolded.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I am Micah. One of my abilities is every other night I can talk to someones computer and basicly get the last PM they sent.

I spoke to nfg22's, something just didn't feel right about his reveal. Without a direct quote of his PM it basicly said

The GRF plan backfired bigtime, the way things are going it looks like you are on your own.

If this is too close I'm sorry JeHeinze.

I wasn't told who the pm was sent to I was just able to look at a copy of it basicly.

Hmmm. NG and CR on the same team, possibly?

[claphamsa]

vtoe ngf

[The Jackal]

At this point, I'm willing to believe what Lathum has said. Plenty of hours left in the day for discussion.

Vote NFG

[claphamsa]

and its officially a runnaway.. woooooo

[Narcizo]

Well this all seems to be too good to be true.

With two company men down is it too soon to start talking about a name reveal to flush out Sylar? I remember somebody mentioning that it was a path we might want to go down if we had got some people in the Company. On the other hand with 19 people left in the game I guess it's not something we have to hurry into at the moment.

Maybe Sylar's reformed and is sitting somewhere repairing watches.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I am Micah. One of my abilities is every other night I can talk to someones computer and basicly get the last PM they sent.

I spoke to nfg22's, something just didn't feel right about his reveal. Without a direct quote of his PM it basicly said

The GRF plan backfired bigtime, the way things are going it looks like you are on your own.

If this is too close I'm sorry JeHeinze.

I wasn't told who the pm was sent to I was just able to look at a copy of it basicly.

Hello son!

[Thomkal]

VOTE NFG22

[claphamsa]

huh?

[claphamsa]

That huh was for the son post

[The Jackal]

Is DL Hawkins the father of Micah Sanders? Hell if I know.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Is DL Hawkins the father of Micah Sanders? Hell if I know.

Yes he is sorry should have been more clear for the Heroes uneducated.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

In terms of reveals, here are the people I have in my notes. Am I missing anyone?


Cronin - Mohinder
SnDvls - Ando
NFG - Dad Parkman
Chief - Son Parkman
Hoops - Claire Bennet

Thomkal - DL Hawkins
Lathum - Micah Sanders

I didn't see if you updated for Thomkal, hoops, but I think this is up to date.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Is DL Hawkins the father of Micah Sanders? Hell if I know.

yes

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Well this all seems to be too good to be true.

With two company men down is it too soon to start talking about a name reveal to flush out Sylar? I remember somebody mentioning that it was a path we might want to go down if we had got some people in the Company. On the other hand with 19 people left in the game I guess it's not something we have to hurry into at the moment.

Maybe Sylar's reformed and is sitting somewhere repairing watches.

I agree it's pretty lucky, but we got very lucky lynching Cronin and Ardent with no real info.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Yes he is sorry should have been more clear for the Heroes uneducated.

Figured.

I want to clarify some things with CR. You may have already answered this, but let's get it back out here on day 4:

Olie told you she was in contact with two people, yes? And did she tell you if GRF was in fact one of them?

[The Jackal]

Now that I'm thinking about my above post, I'm just confusing myself even more. If you could lay out the exact situation between you/olie/nfg/grf for us again, CR, that would be helpful.

Or if someone else remembers what they had said, that works too. I guess I could go and look for quotes..

[mauchow]

This game is completely falling apart for the Company if this is true. If it isn't true, we don't lose much as far as time goes since we could just axe lathum if this doesn't work out. It'd be a silly move from a wolves perspective so I'm happy to give this a whirl.

vote nfg

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I am Micah. One of my abilities is every other night I can talk to someones computer and basicly get the last PM they sent.

I spoke to nfg22's, something just didn't feel right about his reveal. Without a direct quote of his PM it basicly said

The GRF plan backfired bigtime, the way things are going it looks like you are on your own.

If this is too close I'm sorry JeHeinze.

I wasn't told who the pm was sent to I was just able to look at a copy of it basicly.

Well this is all going swimmingly then. One question that I don't understand though.

This looks like a private message between two wolves. How would JeHeinze have access to that PM? The time I played wolf we only directed questions and orders to the GM, if we had to cc every bit of dialogue we had with each other the GM's inbox would have exploded. And why would nfg think that whoever else it is would be on their own.

Happy to join the lynch bandwagon but I just find this a bit odd is all.

[Alan T]

Lathum, I wasn't going to reveal my info until something like your reveal came out..

For whatever its worth, I spied on Schmidty last night.. He was very interested in someone that was in an internet cafe checking "email".

I'm assuming that you were the one in the internet cafe, which means Schmidty chose to do something in relations to you last night. No idea what.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Well this is all going swimmingly then. One question that I don't understand though.

This looks like a private message between two wolves. How would JeHeinze have access to that PM? The time I played wolf we only directed questions and orders to the GM, if we had to cc every bit of dialogue we had with each other the GM's inbox would have exploded. And why would nfg think that whoever else it is would be on their own.

Happy to join the lynch bandwagon but I just find this a bit odd is all.

That's a good point.

[The Jackal]

I can't find the whole nfg/CR thing and I've been on the forum for almost two hours now so it's all starting to blend together. I'll let someone else quote it up or just let one of those two people remind me exactly what the links were, as it may help shine some light on who NFG was talking to.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Lathum, I wasn't going to reveal my info until something like your reveal came out..

For whatever its worth, I spied on Schmidty last night.. He was very interested in someone that was in an internet cafe checking "email".

I'm assuming that you were the one in the internet cafe, which means Schmidty chose to do something in relations to you last night. No idea what.

Certainly increases your suspicion on Schmidty, doesn't it.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Certainly increases your suspicion on Schmidty, doesn't it.

Well.. call it the conspiracy theorist in me here.. but the thought running through my head is this:

1) Schmidty converts Lathum
2) Lathum and them decide that I'm already gunning for NFG, so time to sell him down the river to build trust..
3) Lathum's reveal that seems to have some holes regarding the wolf to wolf PMs.



Like I said though, it might be time for people to stop listening to my hunches.. I'm just giving my thoughts about what happened last night.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Narcizo

Well this is all going swimmingly then. One question that I don't understand though.

This looks like a private message between two wolves. How would JeHeinze have access to that PM? The time I played wolf we only directed questions and orders to the GM, if we had to cc every bit of dialogue we had with each other the GM's inbox would have exploded. And why would nfg think that whoever else it is would be on their own.

Happy to join the lynch bandwagon but I just find this a bit odd is all.

It's not at all unheard of for a GM to be cc'd on wolf PM's.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Well.. call it the conspiracy theorist in me here.. but the thought running through my head is this:

1) Schmidty converts Lathum
2) Lathum and them decide that I'm already gunning for NFG, so time to sell him down the river to build trust..
3) Lathum's reveal that seems to have some holes regarding the wolf to wolf PMs.



Like I said though, it might be time for people to stop listening to my hunches.. I'm just giving my thoughts about what happened last night.

Well, even going by this, NFG would have to be bad, yes? So if we take care of him, we can keep this post in our minds so that Lathum isn't necessarily cleared.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Well, even going by this, NFG would have to be bad, yes? So if we take care of him, we can keep this post in our minds so that Lathum isn't necessarily cleared.

Good point. I cant argue with going for NFG. Of course a run away on NFG doesn't really tell us much, but at this point with Lathum's reveal I think that is inevitable.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Well.. call it the conspiracy theorist in me here.. but the thought running through my head is this:

1) Schmidty converts Lathum
2) Lathum and them decide that I'm already gunning for NFG, so time to sell him down the river to build trust..
3) Lathum's reveal that seems to have some holes regarding the wolf to wolf PMs.



Like I said though, it might be time for people to stop listening to my hunches.. I'm just giving my thoughts about what happened last night.

This may be a little meta-gaming but I don't think it's possible to coordinate that since I know I wasn't online at the deadline, I was in spanish class and schmidty usualy is asleep this time of day.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Good point. I cant argue with going for NFG. Of course a run away on NFG doesn't really tell us much, but at this point with Lathum's reveal I think that is inevitable.

Who else would you like to put pressure on?

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Good point. I cant argue with going for NFG. Of course a run away on NFG doesn't really tell us much, but at this point with Lathum's reveal I think that is inevitable.

It's hard to imagine a scenario in which NFG as a villager would have a role that was worth sacrificing another wolf for so, yes, I don't really see any reason not to lynch NFG. Unless he has some explanation for why he would be worth a sacrifice.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Who else would you like to put pressure on?

I don't think I have a good answer for that. I'm probably going to be voting NFG today, and don't really want to see anyone else lynched to be honest. I think NFG being bad fits really nicely in the big scheme picture in my head of what all is going on here, so I'm hoping that is true.

[Narcizo]

Pretty bad play by the wolves all to try and get something going with the Alan-Pass argument if NFG is bad.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

This may be a little meta-gaming but I don't think it's possible to coordinate that since I know I wasn't online at the deadline, I was in spanish class and schmidty usualy is asleep this time of day.

I can't help but chuckle as I picture Alan in my head all mad scientist trying to come up with a possible answer for this.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I can't help but chuckle as I picture Alan in my head all mad scientist trying to come up with a possible answer for this.

I actually had an answer for it that I decided not to reply with as I don't know if I'm convinced yet that this is what happened.. its just the crazy theory I came up with.

If you are honestly curious to what my reply was going to be that I chose not to say is:

Clearly you are a great wolf in past games and it would be something that you would do all on your own if you felt it was the only way to get out of a poor situation (ie: the other two wolves being NFG and Schmidty)...

I don't think we really need to go down this path just yet today.. its clear NFG is our target today for good or bad, and it gives everyone with powers another chance to choose targets for tonight to look into before we have to make the next tough call.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I was joking, of course your family is more important.

Oh I know man, just foolin' with ya

[RendeR]

Ok, I'm around. just FYI in case anyone has questions.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by RendeR

Ok, I'm around. just FYI in case anyone has questions.

If I'm driving through space in my space-car at the speed of light and turn my headlights on, what happens?

[Mr. Wednesday]

Well, I don't really see any point to not voting nfg at this point. Even if it's some sort of setup by Lathum (which I don't really believe, but it wouldn't be unheard-of), the upside (taking out another Company member) is much greater than the downside (taking out an innocent sacrifice who may have a useful power).

VOTE nfg22

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

a 4-way tie? what a fustercluck

in other news - games with 1pm deadlines are horrible for my work-productivity

Originally Posted by Alan T

If I'm driving through space in my space-car at the speed of light and turn my headlights on, what happens?

If viewed from the exat point of the lighting elements you would see them glow.

If viewed from in front of the car, nothing would change.

If viewed from behind the car nothing would change because you can't see the headlights anyway. You might see a discernable light trail eminating from the tail/parking lights.

[SnDvls]

vote nfg22

[The Jackal]

Fustercluck is a fun word.

[Barkeep49]

I agree that Lathum could definitely throw NFG under the bus and hope to make it on his own. Especially with no kill last night, and no one stepping up with the block, a conversion is possible. Possibly even someone who had been in our mild CoT. That said seems like NFG is the smart way to go today.

Vote NFG

[RendeR]

Is voting nightfall an option heiney?