WW United -- GAME OVER

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Does anyone have any sort of defense for Schmidty and/or Lorena?

Schmidtys Day 3 vote for Js23 looks pretty good. He could have went with Lerriuqs there.

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I considered that, but LSG has had to vote early every day. Now this could be a way to hid, but for now I am willing to give her the benefit of doubt based on her schedule

OK. I don't think switching to lerriuqs is a good move though, I think his voting should give him some benefit of the doubt. If you look at how he had us ranked when he was coming out with his trust lists, it looks like he was trying to figure out how to sort you and I.

I'm actually thinking about coming to PB based on your reasoning and that I think he hasn't seemed like his usual self this game. It would also give some clarification to the D1 voting for myself, because then I'd know 100% that there were no wolves on no lynch D1.

[PurdueBrad]

I hate casting the "retaliatory" vote but Lathum has cast a suspicious eye at most of us and little has stuck. I also don't like the idea of starting a run on lerriuqs and think that suggestion is pretty misleading. I was between GE and Lathum for today so

vote Lathum

[KWhit]

Lathum has been skeeving me out with wolf vibes from day one. In fact, I voted for him briefly the other day until it was pointed out to me that the "seer" Jackal had cleared him. Well, I backed off then in case Jackal really was the seer, but now we know different.

There are a couple of other suspicious folks that I'd be happy to vote for as well, but today I think the best play is to:

Vote Lathum

[Lathum]

sigh, well, pretty sure a wolf is probably on me, so look there tomorrow.

[PurdueBrad]

Lathum, since there is about twenty minutes before I have to go teach, are you usually an early voter? For some reason I thought in most games you held your vote pretty late but your D2 and D3 votes were pretty early. Am I mistaken in that? Weird question I know, but I don't want to go searching through past games at this point.

[Schmidty]

Good morning.

[Lathum]

Kwit, what have I done that is "wolfy"

PB< would you consider a shift to another candidate, GE maybe if I switch off you?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Lathum, since there is about twenty minutes before I have to go teach, are you usually an early voter? For some reason I thought in most games you held your vote pretty late but your D2 and D3 votes were pretty early. Am I mistaken in that? Weird question I know, but I don't want to go searching through past games at this point.

I usually am all over the place, but my parents were in town so I had to vote early most days.

[Lathum]

Unvote PB
Vote GE

[GoldenEagle]

I think there are better candidates than Lathum today.

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Unvote PB
Vote GE

Why?

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Kwit, what have I done that is "wolfy"

PB< would you consider a shift to another candidate, GE maybe if I switch off you?

You didn't even want to consider going for soccer wins as a way to win the game, pushing for lynches of anyone without any regard to their playing ability.

Obviously, it's likely too late now to win the game through the soccer aspect, but early on we had no way to know that, and I think a wolf would want to remove every possible avenue of victory for the village - especially if it meant we lynched a villager instead of going with a no-lynch vote early on.

[PurdueBrad]

A Lathum-GE run off would be tough. No offense GE, I did vote you earlier, although mainly vibe/gut-based and Lathum has a RL explanation for what was bothering me about his votes.

GE, where would you have us vote, if you had your choice?

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Kwit, what have I done that is "wolfy"

PB< would you consider a shift to another candidate, GE maybe if I switch off you?

Do we really have to go down this road again? Did you not pay attention when clap did not switch his vote to me?

I don't think you are a wolf, but you are really reaching here.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Why?

self preservation. You seem the most likely to get votes.

Allthough I will switch to LSG or Lorena.

All I know is me and KWhit are not wolves.

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

A Lathum-GE run off would be tough. No offense GE, I did vote you earlier, although mainly vibe/gut-based and Lathum has a RL explanation for what was bothering me about his votes.

GE, where would you have us vote, if you had your choice?

Lorena, at this point. No voting record to back her up and no one clearing her.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by KWhit

You didn't even want to consider going for soccer wins as a way to win the game, pushing for lynches of anyone without any regard to their playing ability.

Obviously, it's likely too late now to win the game through the soccer aspect, but early on we had no way to know that, and I think a wolf would want to remove every possible avenue of victory for the village - especially if it meant we lynched a villager instead of going with a no-lynch vote early on.

Well I was right about not trying to win through games, wasn't I?

[Lathum]

Unvote GE
Vote LSG

other candidate who is on me.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by Lathum

PB< would you consider a shift to another candidate, GE maybe if I switch off you?

Lathum, my vote wasn't there necessarily because you voted me but it was an encouragement. Actually, your voting timing compared to others struck me. I tend to look for quick, early votes for wolves or late swaying or late throw away votes and you just had a lot of earlier votes. Your explanation does have me consider moving on that. GE's list is actually intriguing to me because his read of Lorena's votes, which I want to look back at. But if I switch, it won't be because you moved off of me. Does that make any sense in that rambling?

[JAG]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

I think there are better candidates than Lathum today.

+1

[Lathum]

ok, well I can get behind anyone but me or KWhit at this point

[JAG]

PB, what's your current view of people? I don't think you've been very forthcoming with your thoughts, at least publicly.

[GoldenEagle]

Lathum is turning into clap all of the sudden.

[GoldenEagle]

I am going to get this party started and we will see where it goes...

Vote Lorena

[PurdueBrad]

Hey JAG, I've felt like a bystander, some of which is my own fault, so here are my current reads:

Lerriuqs and KWhit are the two I most trust.

Lathum concerns me simply because he is an outstanding wolf but I hate voting him out for that because he's a great villager. His votes rubbed me wrong.

Lorena's votes, if GE is right, definitely needs looked at.

LoneStarGirl gives me no read, just because I haven't been on when she is.

GoldenEagle has lingered, despite a good amount of pressure at times. I don't think it was the result of a wolf save. He would be on my short list of where to look though.

Schmidty is mildly like Claph to me, I feel like I can never get a read on how he plays. That usually keeps me from voting for him because I prefer, when possible, to have something to go on. D3 right now is what keeps him off my short list.

Telle, for whatever reason, seems to always draw my suspicion. She has a RL reason for missing votes (which I, the hypocrit, then did later as well) which took that reason away. I always suspect her, and I think I've been right 2/3 times we've played.

So my short list right now:
Lathum
GoldenEagle
Lorena

Sort of distrust
Telle
Schmidty

Neutral
JAG
LoneStarGirl

Trust
Lerriuqs
KWhit

[Lathum]

unvote LSG
vote Lorena

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Do we really have to go down this road again? Did you not pay attention when clap did not switch his vote to me?

The clap no vote for you is the only thing that is keeping me from voting for you, GE. It's the only indication we got from our seer as to who might be good and who might be bad. So for now, I'm taking heed of it and think we should vote elsewhere.

[PurdueBrad]

I *should* be able to check in a couple times before deadline, neither time for very long as I'm teaching, but I'll make sure I do.

I guess there are five I would be willing to vote for today (which is great since there are only ten of us left) but my vote will go to one of them.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by KWhit

The clap no vote for you is the only thing that is keeping me from voting for you, GE. It's the only indication we got from our seer as to who might be good and who might be bad. So for now, I'm taking heed of it and think we should vote elsewhere.

KWhit, can you remind me what the "Clap no vote" refers to? Sorry.

[Telle]

vote LoneStarGirl

I'm good with voting for her or Lathum, but I didn't want to join the pile-on. Schmidty and Lorena are also two possibilities I'd consider.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Lathum is turning into clap all of the sudden.

HERESY!!!

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

KWhit, can you remind me what the "Clap no vote" refers to? Sorry.

Clap was our seer, and it was down to him and GE as lynch candidates that day. However, Clap never put his vote on GE to try to keep himself from being lynched. I'm reading into that a lot, but believe slightly that it was possibly and indicator that clap scanned GE and saw that he was good.

But, I know that's kind of a reach, so I don't put TOO much stock in it.

[Lathum]

I am pretty sure all of the people Clap scanned were probably dead, otherwise he would have told us something.

Who did Clap have PM privledges with the day he died?

[Telle]

Votes as of post #1234:

2 - LoneStarGirl - JAG (1144), Telle (1231)
1 - GoldenEagle - Lorena (1177)
4 - Lathum - LoneStarGirl (1185), Lerriuqs (1191), PurdueBrad (1203), Kwhit (1204)
2 - Lorena - GoldenEagle (1225), Lathum (1227)

[Schmidty]

I still can't understand why people are even mentioning me at all. My day 3 vote should just about seal my place as a villager. Day one, I voted for Martin, which isn't good, but my vote was the second on him, and don't think a wolf would jump on a villager that quickly. The only reason I voted GE (other than gut) was because I was adamant about not going with a no-vote, as people can see if they read around that day. My worst vote was Day four, but even then I had to be convinced to vote clap.

I just think that people bandying my name about can find a better target. Also, I'm pretty sure that one of them is a wolf, other than GE. I feel pretty sure he's ok.

[Telle]

Sorry Schmidty but I don't think your Day 3 vote seals you as being a villager. I've seen more daring votes by wolves in the past. You're not #1 on my list of possible wolves, but you're still in the running.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Telle

Sorry Schmidty but I don't think your Day 3 vote seals you as being a villager. I've seen more daring votes by wolves in the past. You're not #1 on my list of possible wolves, but you're still in the running.

If I hadn't put my vote there, there could have been all kinds of chaos with vote switching. Not only that, but who knows if the last two votes would have happened if I hadn't voted there.

Anyway, you're on my list too.

[GoldenEagle]

Schmidty, I think the biggest mark against you is pushing me for a lynch over clap. If you were a wolf in this game, would you want the secret that clap was the seer to come out?

[Lathum]

unvote Lorena
Vote LSG

[PurdueBrad]

Lathum, in order, what is your distrust list? I know I'm the highest but who are your second and third choices?

[Passacaglia]

Vote count:

LoneStarGirl 3 -- JAG (1144) Telle (1231) Lathum (1240)
Telle 0 --
GoldenEagle 1 -- Lorena (1177)
Lathum 4 -- LoneStarGirl (1185) lerriuqs (1191) PurdueBrad (1203) Kwhit (1204)
PurdueBrad 0 --
Lorena 1 -- GoldenEagle (1225)

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Lathum, in order, what is your distrust list? I know I'm the highest but who are your second and third choices?

I would say it is pretty close between you, Lorena and LSG.

[Schmidty]

Well, I've got a decision to make. Lathum or LSG.

[Schmidty]

Vote LSG

[Schmidty]

Does someone happen to have a vote history that's up to date?

[Lathum]

LoneStarGirl 3 -- JAG (1144) Telle (1231) Lathum (1240) Schmidty (1245)
GoldenEagle 1 -- Lorena (1177)
Lathum 4 -- LoneStarGirl (1185) lerriuqs (1191) PurdueBrad (1203) Kwhit (1204)
Lorena 1 -- GoldenEagle (1225)

[Lathum]

LoneStarGirl 4 -- JAG (1144) Telle (1231) Lathum (1240) Schmidty (1245)
GoldenEagle 1 -- Lorena (1177)
Lathum 4 -- LoneStarGirl (1185) lerriuqs (1191) PurdueBrad (1203) Kwhit (1204)
Lorena 1 -- GoldenEagle (1225)

fixed

[Schmidty]

We absolutely can not have a no-vote today.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

We absolutely can not have a no-vote today.

Well you tied it up, dude.