Werewolf LVIII: Clash of the Gods (GAME OVER) - Page 26

DaddyTorgo · 10-25-2007, 09:26 PM

that's hugely game-unbalancing IMO. I hope somebody has a "kill 2 badguys automatically" action or something to rectify it.

DaddyTorgo · 10-25-2007, 09:26 PM

okay...i don't want to hijack the game with my bitterness. I'm done with it for now.

DaddyTorgo · 10-25-2007, 09:27 PM

VOTE RACER

no reason...just a placeholder.

hoopsguy · 10-25-2007, 09:27 PM

Lathum, one thing I was working through with posts as the deadline popped - you seemed to join RendeR on the Telle vote. He made a comment about following voices in his head.

Anything that I should make out of this? He isn't around to answer it, and I believe that Chief's later vote was survival-driven. So that leaves you to ask.

hoopsguy · 10-25-2007, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

VOTE RACER

no reason...just a placeholder.

Good idea to get it in early

Lathum · 10-25-2007, 09:31 PM

OK, well one conclusion we can draw is that the bad guys don't know who the monsters are.

hoopsguy · 10-25-2007, 09:34 PM

Scorecard:
Down four Olympians, one Titan, one Monster

Still out there:
Hades
Poseidon
Ares (Anxiety)
Hephaestus (Arlington)
Asclepius (Telle)
Heracles (Lathum)
Apollo (per Telle, other suggestions)
Achilles (per Telle)
Medusa (assumed, as Neon was stoned)
Atlas (assumed to be pounding Olympians at night)

That is ten identities for thirteen remaining players.

hoopsguy · 10-25-2007, 09:36 PM

Is there a published tie-breaker?

We can pretty safely assume that the players on Chief and Telle were being truthful with their one point each since Schmidty bit the dust. Certainly no one spent more than two points or else our Minotaur would still be alive.

hoopsguy · 10-25-2007, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

OK, well one conclusion we can draw is that the bad guys don't know who the monsters are.

This implies that you believe that Telle is bad, correct?

Lathum · 10-25-2007, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Lathum, one thing I was working through with posts as the deadline popped - you seemed to join RendeR on the Telle vote. He made a comment about following voices in his head.

Anything that I should make out of this? He isn't around to answer it, and I believe that Chief's later vote was survival-driven. So that leaves you to ask.

He seemed so certain about her, I wanted to see if he had any inside information.

Lathum · 10-25-2007, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

This implies that you believe that Telle is bad, correct?

I think she is bad, yes.

Lathum · 10-25-2007, 09:44 PM

assuming it isn't an every other night action it may be time for the person who visited me night 1 to reveal so we can start a CoT but it is totaly up to them

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 09:44 PM

I hope whoever the seer is (if there's still a seer) scanned either me or hoops tonight.

Poli · 10-25-2007, 09:45 PM

Fight over. Sigh. Had it anyhow. What have I missed?

hoopsguy · 10-25-2007, 09:45 PM

Telle, did you get a new vision today?

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Telle, did you get a new vision today?

I think it would depend on how many points she had to use to get her visions. She spent all four on Schmidty for the vote, right?

hoopsguy · 10-25-2007, 09:48 PM

Neon, it isn't nice to answer the trap question for the intended target.

Poli · 10-25-2007, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

You all stand there, scratching your heads for a bit.. No one is quite sure what exactly is happening. The sun has set, but where is Uranus.... Finally he appears at the normal time, without any great answers himself... "Who gave permission for the sun to depart so early? Everything has its time and place... "

Uranus clearly looks quite troubled by the event , and finally points at Schmidty while saying," Very well, You don't belong here.. SCRAM!" As Uranus points to him, Schmidty explodes in what is best described as Cow chunks.... everywhere... Schmidty has been killed! He was the Minotaur, a monster!

As several of you wipe the gross remains of Schmidty off of your clothes, the table, the walls... well everywhere... One of you suddenly point to the crumpled up body that lies where Render used to be. Just like Zeus was, Render is crushed almost beyond recognition! Render has been killed! Render was Hermes, an Olympian!

Day 4 has started. Day 4's deadline will be 10:00pm EST Friday night (or so we think......)

Game note: I will be away alot of the day tommorrow, so anything I receive will be responded to in late afternoon. If you have any urgent needs, please PM them in the next 2 hours tonight!

OMG

Lathum · 10-25-2007, 09:50 PM

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Neon, it isn't nice to answer the trap question for the intended target.

Doh.

Poli · 10-25-2007, 09:57 PM

What the heck happened?? You've got to be flipping kidding me. All I can say is this, I'd have gone all Daddy Torgo as well.

hoopsguy · 10-25-2007, 09:57 PM

So I'm working through the early deadline and trying to make sense of it.

If we had gotten a Titan, then I would suggest we got lucky as only one person voted for them and they couldn't max their vote and pull off that power, right?

However, if the bad guys don't know who the monsters are, then they may have been trying to save one of their own when they knew Telle had maxed out her vote on Schmidty. The problem with this is that it doesn't seem like a lock that the other candidates would all just cast one vote - seems risky.

So I don't know what to take from this. Do other people have thoughts on it?

Poli · 10-25-2007, 09:57 PM

VOTE TELLE

Just my placeholder.

Telle · 10-25-2007, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I think it would depend on how many points she had to use to get her visions. She spent all four on Schmidty for the vote, right?

Yeah but you have one for your action, remember? And yes I had a vision, but not as useful.. learned a role that is NOT in the game. Should I keep it in my back pocket to counter a potential fake reveal, or do you all want to know it now?

Poli · 10-25-2007, 09:59 PM

I have no clue what to think of all this. Gaw dang. I've got to re-read what went on.

Racer · 10-25-2007, 10:02 PM

Wow. What a power.

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

So I'm working through the early deadline and trying to make sense of it.

If we had gotten a Titan, then I would suggest we got lucky as only one person voted for them and they couldn't max their vote and pull off that power, right?

However, if the bad guys don't know who the monsters are, then they may have been trying to save one of their own when they knew Telle had maxed out her vote on Schmidty. The problem with this is that it doesn't seem like a lock that the other candidates would all just cast one vote - seems risky.

So I don't know what to take from this. Do other people have thoughts on it?

The above reasoning actually leads me to believe that Telle, Chief Rum, and AC as are likely to be good, and Telle/AC are telling the truth with their role reveals. Or that the wolves were going to orchestrate something close to deadline, and were foiled by the early deadline tonight.

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telle

Yeah but you have one for your action, remember? And yes I had a vision, but not as useful.. learned a role that is NOT in the game. Should I keep it in my back pocket to counter a potential fake reveal, or do you all want to know it now?

I would not reveal the role that doesn't exist, Telle.

Lathum · 10-25-2007, 10:04 PM

So I think whoever used the power needs to step up, it would answer alot of questions about what was happening.

Plus I can protect them tomorrow night.

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

So I think whoever used the power needs to step up, it would answer alot of questions about what was happening.

Plus I can protect them tomorrow night.

Why would ask him to reveal?

Whoever used the deadline-altering power today, don't reveal.

Too many reveals already, we're risking cutting down the number of candidates for the Titans to pick off Hades or Poseidon.

path12 · 10-25-2007, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I have to say I admire that game mechanic... I vote we make Alan run all the WW games here.

+1

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 10:18 PM

1) Render - Killed Day 3 Hermes / Olympian
2) Barkeep - Killed Day 2 Zeus / Olympian
3) Chief Rum
4) PurdueBrad
5) St.Cronin
6) Neon_Chaos
7) Lathum - (Claims to be Heracles)
8) ntndeacon - Lynched Day 2 Dionysus / Olympian
9) ArlingtonColt - (Claims to be Hephaestus)
10) Passacaglia - Killed Day 1 Athena / Olympian
11) Telle - (Claims to be Ascelipus)
12) Hoopsguy
13) Path12 - Lynched Day 1 Cronus / Titan
14) Anxiety - (Claims to be Ares)
15) Ardent_Enthusiast
16) Racer
17) DaddyTorgo
18) Raiders Army
19) Schmidty - Lynched Day 3 Minotaur / Monster

We need to concentrate on those who haven't revealed.

I am assuming that there are 4 starting Titans (considering 19 players), there should be 3 left. Which means 3 of 9 unrevealed players are Titans.

So they have an existing pool of 6 non-titan unrevealed players to bag Hades and Poseidon. That's a 1/3 chance of them nailing one of the big two. We don't want to cut those odds even further by having more reveals.

Lathum · 10-25-2007, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Why would ask him to reveal?

Whoever used the deadline-altering power today, don't reveal.

Too many reveals already, we're risking cutting down the number of candidates for the Titans to pick off Hades or Poseidon.

Because we need to for some COT's here.

If the person who had that power reveals, plus the person who visited me night 1 and the other 2 people who they visited we could get a nice COT going.

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 10:19 PM

Right now, we have a 1/3 chance of nailing a Titan, most likely, if we go into the pool of unrevealed players. And yes, that includes myself.

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 10:20 PM

Those calculations above discount the possibility of non-evil Titans in the game as well.

Lathum · 10-25-2007, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Right now, we have a 1/3 chance of nailing a Titan, most likely, if we go into the pool of unrevealed players. And yes, that includes myself.

you are also assuming that there are no fake reveals in there. A big assumotion to make

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

you are also assuming that there are no fake reveals in there. A big assumotion to make

So you want to go after the guys who revealed their roles, then? I think we're wasting our time. I could be wrong of course, but then we have different views as to how to go about weeding out the Titans.

It's going to be easier to determine the alliegances of those who revealed their roles if they participate in the scrutiny of the unrevealed ones.

Lathum · 10-25-2007, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

So you want to go after the guys who revealed their roles, then? I think we're wasting our time. I could be wrong of course, but then we have different views as to how to go about weeding out the Titans.

.

I never said that, but it would be remiss to not factor in the possibility of a false reveal.

Poli · 10-25-2007, 10:42 PM

I'm going to bed soon. I'm heading to Illinois early in the morning.

I'm hoping to be home some time around 3-4pm central. If I am, I can probably stick around till 5pm before I head to the wedding rehearsal. I'll be gone through most of the night for that.

Raiders Army · 10-25-2007, 10:42 PM

Damn. Every time someone gets in my CoT, they die. Somebody protect DaddyTorgo. I will back Neon, Telle, and DaddyTorgo.

I think we need to look at cronin.

VOTE ST. CRONIN

Even if I do not have internet access tomorrow morning I will be around at lunch.

Raiders Army · 10-25-2007, 10:42 PM

I am telling you that if you vote for DT, Neon, or Telle, you are voting wrongly. Of course, I should be in that list as well.

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 10:43 PM

Anxiety, any idea on how you can confirm yourself to be Ares?

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Damn. Every time someone gets in my CoT, they die. Somebody protect DaddyTorgo. I will back Neon, Telle, and DaddyTorgo.

I think we need to look at cronin.

VOTE ST. CRONIN

Even if I do not have internet access tomorrow morning I will be around at lunch.

All up for that. He was part of my distrust list anyway.

Vote St.Cronin

Abe Sargent · 10-25-2007, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Anxiety, any idea on how you can confirm yourself to be Ares?

Yes. Ask the person I visited on Day One.

Abe Sargent · 10-25-2007, 11:03 PM

Based on my action last night, I beleive I know who st cronin, is and he ain;t aligned with the bad guys.

Abe Sargent · 10-25-2007, 11:04 PM

I will not say more right now. Hope you can understand that. And oh, by teh way, AlanT:

That was a seriously awesome mechanic! You get props.

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 11:14 PM

Unvote st.cronin

Let's see where this goes then.

DaddyTorgo · 10-25-2007, 11:41 PM

what about someone like purduebrad or racer?

Abe Sargent · 10-25-2007, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

You all stand there, scratching your heads for a bit.. No one is quite sure what exactly is happening. The sun has set, but where is Uranus.... Finally he appears at the normal time, without any great answers himself... "Who gave permission for the sun to depart so early? Everything has its time and place... "

Uranus clearly looks quite troubled by the event , and finally points at Schmidty while saying," Very well, You don't belong here.. SCRAM!" As Uranus points to him, Schmidty explodes in what is best described as Cow chunks.... everywhere... Schmidty has been killed! He was the Minotaur, a monster!

As several of you wipe the gross remains of Schmidty off of your clothes, the table, the walls... well everywhere... One of you suddenly point to the crumpled up body that lies where Render used to be. Just like Zeus was, Render is crushed almost beyond recognition! Render has been killed! Render was Hermes, an Olympian!

Day 4 has started. Day 4's deadline will be 10:00pm EST Friday night (or so we think......)

Game note: I will be away alot of the day tommorrow, so anything I receive will be responded to in late afternoon. If you have any urgent needs, please PM them in the next 2 hours tonight!

Uranus was killed in the first post. How is he still alive?

Neon_Chaos · 10-25-2007, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Uranus was killed in the first post. How is he still alive?

I have no idea, but apparently, he's the one mopping at the end of each day.

10-25-2007, 09:44 PM	#1263
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	I hope whoever the seer is (if there's still a seer) scanned either me or hoops tonight. __________________ Come and see.

10-25-2007, 09:45 PM	#1264
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Fight over. Sigh. Had it anyhow. What have I missed? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-25-2007, 09:50 PM	#1269
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	lmao

10-25-2007, 09:57 PM	#1271
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	What the heck happened?? You've got to be flipping kidding me. All I can say is this, I'd have gone all Daddy Torgo as well. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-25-2007, 09:57 PM	#1273
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	VOTE TELLE Just my placeholder. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-25-2007, 09:26 PM	#1251
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	that's hugely game-unbalancing IMO. I hope somebody has a "kill 2 badguys automatically" action or something to rectify it.

10-25-2007, 09:26 PM	#1252
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	okay...i don't want to hijack the game with my bitterness. I'm done with it for now.

10-25-2007, 09:27 PM	#1253
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	VOTE RACER no reason...just a placeholder.

10-25-2007, 09:27 PM	#1254
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Lathum, one thing I was working through with posts as the deadline popped - you seemed to join RendeR on the Telle vote. He made a comment about following voices in his head. Anything that I should make out of this? He isn't around to answer it, and I believe that Chief's later vote was survival-driven. So that leaves you to ask.

10-25-2007, 09:31 PM	#1256
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	OK, well one conclusion we can draw is that the bad guys don't know who the monsters are.

10-25-2007, 09:34 PM	#1257
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Scorecard: Down four Olympians, one Titan, one Monster Still out there: Hades Poseidon Ares (Anxiety) Hephaestus (Arlington) Asclepius (Telle) Heracles (Lathum) Apollo (per Telle, other suggestions) Achilles (per Telle) Medusa (assumed, as Neon was stoned) Atlas (assumed to be pounding Olympians at night) That is ten identities for thirteen remaining players.

10-25-2007, 09:36 PM	#1258
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Is there a published tie-breaker? We can pretty safely assume that the players on Chief and Telle were being truthful with their one point each since Schmidty bit the dust. Certainly no one spent more than two points or else our Minotaur would still be alive.

10-25-2007, 09:44 PM	#1262
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	assuming it isn't an every other night action it may be time for the person who visited me night 1 to reveal so we can start a CoT but it is totaly up to them

10-25-2007, 09:45 PM	#1265
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Telle, did you get a new vision today?

10-25-2007, 09:48 PM	#1267
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Neon, it isn't nice to answer the trap question for the intended target.

10-25-2007, 09:57 PM	#1272
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	So I'm working through the early deadline and trying to make sense of it. If we had gotten a Titan, then I would suggest we got lucky as only one person voted for them and they couldn't max their vote and pull off that power, right? However, if the bad guys don't know who the monsters are, then they may have been trying to save one of their own when they knew Telle had maxed out her vote on Schmidty. The problem with this is that it doesn't seem like a lock that the other candidates would all just cast one vote - seems risky. So I don't know what to take from this. Do other people have thoughts on it?

10-25-2007, 09:59 PM	#1275
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I have no clue what to think of all this. Gaw dang. I've got to re-read what went on. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-25-2007, 10:02 PM	#1276
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Wow. What a power.

10-25-2007, 10:04 PM	#1279
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So I think whoever used the power needs to step up, it would answer alot of questions about what was happening. Plus I can protect them tomorrow night.

10-25-2007, 10:18 PM	#1282
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	1) Render - Killed Day 3 Hermes / Olympian 2) Barkeep - Killed Day 2 Zeus / Olympian 3) Chief Rum 4) PurdueBrad 5) St.Cronin 6) Neon_Chaos 7) Lathum - (Claims to be Heracles) 8) ntndeacon - Lynched Day 2 Dionysus / Olympian 9) ArlingtonColt - (Claims to be Hephaestus) 10) Passacaglia - Killed Day 1 Athena / Olympian 11) Telle - (Claims to be Ascelipus) 12) Hoopsguy 13) Path12 - Lynched Day 1 Cronus / Titan 14) Anxiety - (Claims to be Ares) 15) Ardent_Enthusiast 16) Racer 17) DaddyTorgo 18) Raiders Army 19) Schmidty - Lynched Day 3 Minotaur / Monster We need to concentrate on those who haven't revealed. I am assuming that there are 4 starting Titans (considering 19 players), there should be 3 left. Which means 3 of 9 unrevealed players are Titans. So they have an existing pool of 6 non-titan unrevealed players to bag Hades and Poseidon. That's a 1/3 chance of them nailing one of the big two. We don't want to cut those odds even further by having more reveals. __________________ Come and see.

10-25-2007, 10:19 PM	#1284
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Right now, we have a 1/3 chance of nailing a Titan, most likely, if we go into the pool of unrevealed players. And yes, that includes myself. __________________ Come and see.

10-25-2007, 10:20 PM	#1285
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Those calculations above discount the possibility of non-evil Titans in the game as well. __________________ Come and see.

10-25-2007, 10:42 PM	#1289
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm going to bed soon. I'm heading to Illinois early in the morning. I'm hoping to be home some time around 3-4pm central. If I am, I can probably stick around till 5pm before I head to the wedding rehearsal. I'll be gone through most of the night for that. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

10-25-2007, 10:42 PM	#1290
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Damn. Every time someone gets in my CoT, they die. Somebody protect DaddyTorgo. I will back Neon, Telle, and DaddyTorgo. I think we need to look at cronin. VOTE ST. CRONIN Even if I do not have internet access tomorrow morning I will be around at lunch.

10-25-2007, 10:42 PM	#1291
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I am telling you that if you vote for DT, Neon, or Telle, you are voting wrongly. Of course, I should be in that list as well.

10-25-2007, 10:43 PM	#1292
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Anxiety, any idea on how you can confirm yourself to be Ares? __________________ Come and see.

10-25-2007, 11:03 PM	#1295
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Based on my action last night, I beleive I know who st cronin, is and he ain;t aligned with the bad guys. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-25-2007, 11:04 PM	#1296
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I will not say more right now. Hope you can understand that. And oh, by teh way, AlanT: That was a seriously awesome mechanic! You get props. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-25-2007, 11:14 PM	#1297
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Unvote st.cronin Let's see where this goes then. __________________ Come and see.

10-25-2007, 11:41 PM	#1298
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	what about someone like purduebrad or racer?

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