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Old 04-20-2006, 09:53 PM   #1251
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Did Schmidty post a time that we should expect results tonight?
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Old 04-20-2006, 09:58 PM   #1252
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Old 04-20-2006, 09:59 PM   #1253
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:01 PM   #1254
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:07 PM   #1255
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Ok, I'm home again. I'm in the middle of cooking dinner, but expect the results in about a half an hour.

Thanks for your patience.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:08 PM   #1256
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Ok, I'm home again. I'm in the middle of cooking dinner, but expect the results in about a half an hour.

Thanks for your patience.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:09 PM   #1257
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I'd continue ripping on you guys, but I have beer, a 4 day weekend, and more beer. Screw ya'll.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:24 PM   #1258
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You know, i wouldnt have been so into you if you hadnt made the one comment about wanting to be tested after WVU and myself...that was a killer for me...if you truly are good, bodyguard gets to have some fun tonight playing chess with the others. Who to guard tonight, as im assuming he cant guard back-to-back.

Either way, productive vote if you ask me on the assumption cronin was good, which i dont know. This game went to hell today, and im sooo confused with soo many suspects my head hurts...damn you and your reveal CW
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:24 PM   #1259
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I'd continue ripping on you guys, but I have beer, a 4 day weekend, and more beer. Screw ya'll.
mmmmm, beer *drools*
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:26 PM   #1260
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You know, i wouldnt have been so into you if you hadnt made the one comment about wanting to be tested after WVU and myself...that was a killer for me...if you truly are good, bodyguard gets to have some fun tonight playing chess with the others. Who to guard tonight, as im assuming he cant guard back-to-back.

Either way, productive vote if you ask me on the assumption cronin was good, which i dont know. This game went to hell today, and im sooo confused with soo many suspects my head hurts...damn you and your reveal CW

It WAS a productive vote that hopefully should raise some serious questions on some people. In that, I am happy.

However, good god, one of these games, someone will fucking believe me.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:29 PM   #1261
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It WAS a productive vote that hopefully should raise some serious questions on some people. In that, I am happy.

However, good god, one of these games, someone will fucking believe me.
Outside of the fact you were trying to do good, you have to admit a seer reveal on day 2 just to clear 1 guy is a bit of a waste for the role...maybe you see it differently, but thats just ludicrous to me
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:31 PM   #1262
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Outside of the fact you were trying to do good, you have to admit a seer reveal on day 2 just to clear 1 guy is a bit of a waste for the role...maybe you see it differently, but thats just ludicrous to me

Any other game, yes.

This game, Seer role sucks. My views are invalid almost the moment I make them, and I can be converted just by HITTING on a Thing. I was hoping to do something useful while I still could.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:52 PM   #1263
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You all gather for the inevitable debate about who should be tested yet again. At first, there is a lot of heated conversation between Raiders Army and Blade. A few of you throw your two cents in here and there, and the suspicion is starting to swing toward Raiders Army. Before the arguments get out of hand, and RA is condemned, Coffee Warlord stands up.

"Look, I'm a geneticist, and I've been testing people at night as often as I can. Raiders Army was my last subject. He is totally and utterly clean."

Some of you take Coffee Warlord's word at face value, and some of you are beyond suspicious.

"If you really ARE telling the truth, then you won't be afraid to take the test, and then we can be sure that you and RA are telling the truth.", bellows Blade.

The majority of you give this idea support, and force Coffee Warlord to the table.

"What an unbelievable waste of time. Why don't we just give up right now?", Coffee Warlord sullenly utters.

Coffee Warlord sits down at the table, goes through the now familiar motions, and plunges the hot wire into the blood.

A sizzling sound faintly touches your ears, but nothing else happens and everyone is ready to act..........

Finally, a tiny wisp of steam slowly rises from the dish, and everyone breathes a sigh of relief.

Coffee Warlord is not a Thing.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:53 PM   #1264
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Fuck again. I wish I could have stuck around for another 10 minutes or so but I had a meeting that was starting. I couldn't find another vote though that I thought would be any better.

CW, if wrong, I apologize.
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Old 04-20-2006, 10:54 PM   #1265
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dola. I guess that "if" was unnecessary.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:00 PM   #1266
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So. I'm the only one any of you can trust for the next however many hours.

In the off chance I am both protected AND you actually believe me, who do you want me to scan?
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:04 PM   #1267
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These are the facts as I understand them right now.

1. JeeberD - clean day 1
2. st.cronin
3. tanglewood
4. Raiders Army - clean day 2, per CW
5. Blade6119
6. dubb93 - clean day 2
7. Swaggs
8. path12
9. saldana - Thing, killed day 2
10. Qwikshot - presumed Thing, killed day 1
11. Barkeep - presuman human assassin day 1
12. mckerney
13. Coffee Warlord - seer, cleared day 3
14. Anxiety
15. hoopsguy - cleared day 1
16. WVUFAN
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:08 PM   #1268
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Repost of the above list, with slight modification to distinguish between seer scans and blood tests:

1. JeeberD - clean blood test day 1
2. st.cronin
3. tanglewood
4. Raiders Army - clean day 2, per CW
5. Blade6119
6. dubb93 - clean blood test day 2
7. Swaggs
8. path12
9. saldana - Thing, killed day 2
10. Qwikshot - presumed Thing, killed day 1
11. Barkeep - presuman human assassin day 1
12. mckerney
13. Coffee Warlord - seer, cleared day 3
14. Anxiety
15. hoopsguy - cleared day 1, per CW
16. WVUFAN
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:10 PM   #1269
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So. I'm the only one any of you can trust for the next however many hours.

In the off chance I am both protected AND you actually believe me, who do you want me to scan?

Top of my list would be Barkeep. Other than him, anyone who has been quiet or skulking in the background i.e. likely conversion targets.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:13 PM   #1270
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I'm currently strongly considering looking at Dubb or St.Cronin.

And I will make a decision on who to view tonight, and make it public.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:19 PM   #1271
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Well... that didn't work out too well.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:20 PM   #1272
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I'm currently strongly considering looking at Dubb or St.Cronin.

And I will make a decision on who to view tonight, and make it public.

In addendum.

I almost guarantee you at least one of the people strongly and loudly disputing me is a Thing. Problem is, which one.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:21 PM   #1273
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Repost of the above list, with slight modification to distinguish between seer scans and blood tests:

1. JeeberD - clean blood test day 1
2. st.cronin
3. tanglewood
4. Raiders Army - clean day 2, per CW
5. Blade6119
6. dubb93 - clean blood test day 2
7. Swaggs
8. path12
9. saldana - Thing, killed day 2
10. Qwikshot - presumed Thing, killed day 1
11. Barkeep - presuman human assassin day 1
12. mckerney
13. Coffee Warlord - seer, cleared day 3
14. Anxiety
15. hoopsguy - cleared day 1, per CW
16. WVUFAN

I would add that Blade, RA, and I were simple scientists for at least the first day.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:24 PM   #1274
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I'm currently strongly considering looking at Dubb or St.Cronin.

And I will make a decision on who to view tonight, and make it public.

I would be in favor of either.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:29 PM   #1275
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Top of my list would be Barkeep. Other than him, anyone who has been quiet or skulking in the background i.e. likely conversion targets.
I'm a fucking waste of time but as always you asshole slurpers are welcome to fucking come and waste another day.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:31 PM   #1276
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wow... asshole slurpers. Wow.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:32 PM   #1277
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However, good god, one of these games, someone will fucking believe me.
If by someone you mean someone besides me, hoops, & mckerny for sure with anxiety and raiders right there as well, with path making the right sort of noises, then I wish you the best of luck as that's nearly half the game right there.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:33 PM   #1278
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I'm a fucking waste of time but as always you asshole slurpers are welcome to fucking come and waste another day.
Or scan
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:34 PM   #1279
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Cronin I would love to see at some point a response to your going hard fucking core after blade all day long only to pussy out and end up voting for dubb. What the fuck doing that again?
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:36 PM   #1280
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Coffee: I think publicly announcing who you're going to scan is a terrible idea and would urge you not to do it. Simply because it opens up another "obvious" conversion target. Now, if 9 AM eastern comes around and results aren't up? That might be an OK time to reveal in advance who you scanned.

That said, unless you're going to announce a shitface, I'm not sure that your scan will ahve any crediblity tomorrow. If it's a shitface result then I think you'd get some possible respect.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:36 PM   #1281
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If by someone you mean someone besides me, hoops, & mckerny for sure with anxiety and raiders right there as well, with path making the right sort of noises, then I wish you the best of luck as that's nearly half the game right there.

I was fairly sure that he was the seer too.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:38 PM   #1282
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If by someone you mean someone besides me, hoops, & mckerny for sure with anxiety and raiders right there as well, with path making the right sort of noises, then I wish you the best of luck as that's nearly half the game right there.


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Old 04-20-2006, 11:40 PM   #1283
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I was fairly sure that he was the seer too.
Yeah I'd put you in the making noise category with path as you expressed a willingness to do something different with your vote, but didn't despite the fact that you could have voted for anybody else except for dubb and guarenteed that you wouldn't have caused a tie.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:40 PM   #1284
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Would help to know what order your scan and the conversion are processed - yesterday I expected them to go after a low-post player to avoid the bodyguard. Tonight I think it is pretty wide open, as there is a good chance the bodyguard is stuck to you like glue.

I'm okay with wherever you want to go with your scan. It is almost inevitably going to be heated tomorrow no matter who it is an what the result is, so just take your best shot and we'll try to figure it out.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:41 PM   #1285
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Yup, I believed him


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So I understand if you don't want to do it now, but I would be very curious to see a circle of trust from you sometime soon as you've made some interesting general observations but besides figuring out that old WW maxim, that Blade is full of shit, it seems like it's been light on direct player commentary.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:41 PM   #1286
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Would help to know what order your scan and the conversion are processed - yesterday I expected them to go after a low-post player to avoid the bodyguard. Tonight I think it is pretty wide open, as there is a good chance the bodyguard is stuck to you like glue.

As I said. Scan comes before Conversion.

As I also said. Sucks.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:41 PM   #1287
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Would help to know what order your scan and the conversion are processed - yesterday I expected them to go after a low-post player to avoid the bodyguard. Tonight I think it is pretty wide open, as there is a good chance the bodyguard is stuck to you like glue.

I'm okay with wherever you want to go with your scan. It is almost inevitably going to be heated tomorrow no matter who it is an what the result is, so just take your best shot and we'll try to figure it out.
Hoops:

CW posted that he had asked Schmidty about the order and the scan comes before the conversion. With CW checking out I would think we'd have to believe that in terms of the order of things.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:49 PM   #1288
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Hoops:

CW posted that he had asked Schmidty about the order and the scan comes before the conversion. With CW checking out I would think we'd have to believe that in terms of the order of things.

Then we will almost need a bodyguard to verify what he is saying or we will go through the same crap again tomorrow.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:50 PM   #1289
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Yeah I'd put you in the making noise category with path as you expressed a willingness to do something different with your vote, but didn't despite the fact that you could have voted for anybody else except for dubb and guarenteed that you wouldn't have caused a tie.

None of the major candidates were people who I wanted to vote for and as I was the last to vote (2 hours before the deadline), I voted for the one I thought would be most helpful to come back Scientist. By the posibility of a group moving to someone I could get behind came, it was too late. CW had a 6-4 majority over Dubb, so even if I moved CW would still be tested. All it would've done was create the possibility of someone voting for dubb right at the buzzer and causing a tie.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:52 PM   #1290
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Ok, I'm out for the evening. I'm fairly certain that the bodyguard will protect CW, so I'm hopeful for tommorow.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:54 PM   #1291
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None of the major candidates were people who I wanted to vote for and as I was the last to vote (2 hours before the deadline), I voted for the one I thought would be most helpful to come back Scientist. By the posibility of a group moving to someone I could get behind came, it was too late. CW had a 6-4 majority over Dubb, so even if I moved CW would still be tested. All it would've done was create the possibility of someone voting for dubb right at the buzzer and causing a tie.
I'm not talking about changing the outcome tangle, I'm talking about establishing that track record.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:57 PM   #1292
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I'm changing the Night Action deadline to 11 AM EST since I generally don't wake up until 8-9 AM PST. Just a heads up.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:58 PM   #1293
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Sorry if this has been touched on and I missed it, but what are the terms for a win here? We need to eradicate all the Things, I presume, but what do the Things need to do? Get an even number probably?

I'm thinking that we are still in decent shape here, since a test does not kill a wrongly accused and lessen the overall pool and we have already presumably gotten two of the Things. So, right now it is probably something like 13-2.

Does anyone think there is any chance of them converting more than one person a night? I guess maybe CW can get infected while scanning?
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:58 PM   #1294
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Thanks for the clarification on the scan order, guys. In that case, publishing your intended scan before crashing for the evening is a terrible idea. Glad I could provide so much value here :o
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Old 04-21-2006, 12:01 AM   #1295
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Sorry if this has been touched on and I missed it, but what are the terms for a win here? We need to eradicate all the Things, I presume, but what do the Things need to do? Get an even number probably?
I think that is what most of us have been assuming. Now I'm going to throw out a new idea in a minute, which if true might make that a false assumption.

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I'm thinking that we are still in decent shape here, since a test does not kill a wrongly accused and lessen the overall pool and we have already presumably gotten two of the Things. So, right now it is probably something like 13-2.
By my count it's 12-2, to be 11-3 after the night ends. But I agree with have some limited breathing room.

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Does anyone think there is any chance of them converting more than one person a night? I guess maybe CW can get infected while scanning?
I believe a double conversion is unlikely, though not impossible. I believe CW said he could possibly get infected while scanning. Can you back this up CW?
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Old 04-21-2006, 12:02 AM   #1296
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Sorry if this has been touched on and I missed it, but what are the terms for a win here? We need to eradicate all the Things, I presume, but what do the Things need to do? Get an even number probably?

Actually, there need to be 1 more Thing than Scientist for the Things to win.
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Old 04-21-2006, 12:04 AM   #1297
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Ok so somoene with knowledge of the movie would have to answer this: But do the shitfaces communicate with each other?

As I see it the shitfaces will be virtually unbeatable come a time when they get 4 as we we have to hit 2 of them in a day in order just to keep pace. The odds of doing this on back to back days is slim. So to balance this out I am wondering if the shitfaces don't know who each other are. This would change the dynamics, and has been used as a mechanism in WW games before. In this case it could work especially well as the shitfaces "vote" on who to convert. This would make the sense of paronia, which Schmidty seems to cherish, equally a part of the shitfaces side.
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Old 04-21-2006, 12:05 AM   #1298
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Actually, there need to be 1 more Thing than Scientist for the Things to win.
This confirmation just makes me wonder all the more about my question.
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Old 04-21-2006, 12:05 AM   #1299
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I believe a double conversion is unlikely, though not impossible. I believe CW said he could possibly get infected while scanning. Can you back this up CW?

Correct. If I scan a Thing, there's a chance I am immediately converted.
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Old 04-21-2006, 12:06 AM   #1300
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Oh and cronin: 1 more question: What the fuck are the other powers I supposedly fucking have? I would so love to know.
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