11-23-2016, 02:29 PM | #1251 |
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11-29-2016, 01:37 PM | #1252 |
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Cespedes back to the Mets: 4 years, $110 million.
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11-29-2016, 01:43 PM | #1253 |
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Not bad. The price per year is high, but only 4 years works for me.
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11-29-2016, 01:51 PM | #1254 | |
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Yeah, keeping it to 4 years was important and probably cost an extra million or so annually. He's getting $22.5MM next year and $29MM after that. Guess he was willing to go light in year one after pulling in $27.5MM last season. |
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12-01-2016, 07:27 AM | #1255 |
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12-01-2016, 08:05 AM | #1256 |
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Thankfully, the ASG will no longer determine WS home field. It will go to the team with the better record (ingenius!).
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12-01-2016, 09:25 AM | #1257 |
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Well with ubiquitous interleague, I guess there was no reason to not go to that (in the past it was because they didn't play each other enough to know if a team with a better record was actually better or did they play in a weaker league).
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12-01-2016, 09:33 AM | #1258 |
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A thought... is there is a contingency for when both teams have the same record in the WS?
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12-01-2016, 09:58 AM | #1259 | |
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Will surely be some kind of tiebreaker to determine it, as they usually do with other ties. But there isn't an official reporting of what will happen yet. Last edited by Young Drachma : 12-01-2016 at 09:58 AM. |
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12-01-2016, 10:29 AM | #1260 |
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12-01-2016, 10:33 AM | #1261 | |
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I fail to see why what you wrote about the past matters unless your only aim is a perfect solution. If interleague play goes away tomorrow, they should still base it on record. I'll take my chances that over a 162 game season, the team that ends up with the best record will be the optimal solution to awarding home field compared to the ASG crap or simply alternating years. |
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12-01-2016, 10:57 AM | #1262 |
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I'm glad they got rid of the AS game determining home field. I'm actually surprised they did as IT MAKES SENSE
Having said that as a Cubs fan that idiotic rule helped the Cubs by giving Cleveland home field advantage. It allowed Schwarber to play in 4 games |
12-01-2016, 11:01 AM | #1263 |
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Some other stuff from the agreement:
-the luxury tax threshold goes up, but teams will pay a much higher tax if they go over it. -Teams that sign a premium free agent will no longer have to give up a first-round draft pick to the team that lost that player. However, teams with payrolls higher than the luxury-tax threshold have to surrender a second-and fifth-round pick. All other teams would be required to forfeit their third-round pick. (Teams that lose a player still get the between-rounds compensatory pick - how high that pick is depends on whether you're in the top or bottom half of markets by size, and whether you're over the luxury tax threshold). -Smokeless tobacco ban - Hard salary cap on the total annual dollars that each club can spend to sign foreign-born amateur players. -4 more off-days during the season for each team -Increased drug testing including for HGH -And a bunch of other stuff that isn't known yet involving revenue sharing, pace of game. Last edited by molson : 12-01-2016 at 11:01 AM. |
12-01-2016, 11:06 AM | #1264 |
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wow smokeless tobacco ban seems like a big change.
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12-01-2016, 11:08 AM | #1265 |
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Will this force Markus to implement "Tobacco Withdrawal Syndrome" like we saw in FOF?
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12-01-2016, 11:11 AM | #1266 |
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Oh, and the smokeless tobacco thing will be grandfathered in, it only applies to new players. So in 15 years or so we'll have the random old-guy clinging to the old ways, just like when I was a kid and there was a handful of hockey players who still didn't wear helmets.
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12-01-2016, 11:16 AM | #1267 | |
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That seems like a step in the right direction, but also seems needlessly complicated.
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12-01-2016, 11:19 AM | #1268 |
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Ya, it sounds like a compromise, where they're basically moving numerous sliders back and forth to get to an agreeable spot. But I think that's cool that the union and owners are communicating well these days. Fewer lines that one side or the other just refuse to cross, like the players once did with drug testing and payroll restrictions.
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12-01-2016, 11:26 AM | #1269 |
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Cutch possibly getting traded to the Nationals. Seems like it would be a good move for the Pirates cause Marte in Center really needs to happen.
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12-01-2016, 11:31 AM | #1270 | |
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As a Mets fan, I hope the Nats give up a ton for him and give him a nice expensive long term deal. Maybe last year was just a blip for him but when I see steals going down like that and strikeouts going up, seems like a good indicator of a guy whose best days are on the path of being way behind him. |
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12-01-2016, 11:36 AM | #1271 | |
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If he can play defense and be better than Ben Revere at the plate, that's all that matters. Lets the Nats put Turner back in the infield where he belongs as well. |
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12-01-2016, 11:38 AM | #1272 |
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Didn't catch that he has a team option for 2018 and won't be a FA like I originally thought so that changes it a bit.
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12-01-2016, 11:39 AM | #1273 | |
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Depending on the price. Defense and below replacement level production doesn't usually cost $14MM plus prospects. |
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12-01-2016, 11:43 AM | #1274 |
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Whew, they finally got rid of the stupid All Star Game gimmick.
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12-01-2016, 11:44 AM | #1275 |
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Pretty sure his defense is bad to awful by the advanced metrics. Doesn't seem to be that great at the plate right now either.
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12-01-2016, 11:46 AM | #1276 | |
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Players don't usually completely lose it at age 29 after 5 years of being a great player. I'd be willing to bank on him not being the bad player he was last season for a package built around Ross, Fedde, and a position prospect other than Robles. |
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12-01-2016, 11:49 AM | #1277 | |
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He has been pretty bad in the field recently, but still not Ben Revere bad, and his bat was great for 5 years before falling off a cliff last year. I'm okay with buying low with only one year guaranteed remaining on his contract. The much bigger deal is what they give up to get Chris Sale. |
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12-01-2016, 11:54 AM | #1278 | |
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That just doesn't make any sense to me if the teams from the leagues don't play each other. It's like having a series between the MLB champ and Japan's league champ and having it based on which team had the better record.
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12-01-2016, 12:24 PM | #1279 | |
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I'll still take something earned on the field, by the teams actually competing in the World Series, and not based on a coin flip or something as dumb as other players not actually participating in the WS driving the outcome. Again, not looking for perfect. Just optimal. |
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12-01-2016, 12:27 PM | #1280 | |
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FTR, "defense and below replacement level production" was a reference to Revere, not McCutcheon. I doubt he's as bad as last year either, but like I said, when a guy's SBs steadily fall off a cliff as his strikeout numbers steadily rise, those are ominous signs. |
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12-01-2016, 12:30 PM | #1281 | |
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Usually? No, but it does happen and he hits every red flag with age related decline there is. Walks are down, defense fell off a cliff, and hard contact down. Looks more like the makings of Matt Kemp 2.0 than a 1 year blip. |
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12-01-2016, 12:33 PM | #1282 | |
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They play 144 games in Japan. We also call it a world series when it isn't quite that inclusive either. |
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12-01-2016, 03:32 PM | #1283 | |
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And, like I said, if the leagues didn't play each other at all, to me, optimal wouldn't be giving it to the team with the best record because there is no real point of comparison. I'd argue in that case an odd/even or coin flip may be more optimal when lacking knowledge of the relative strength of each league.
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12-01-2016, 08:51 PM | #1284 |
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Best record for WS home field is no different than a coin flip; when the teams don't play anywhere close to the same schedules. Maybe if they eliminate two teams, go back to 28 teams and play each team 6 games (3 home/3 away). There is your 162 games and a level field.
The people wanting it will complain the first time a team playing in a weak division hosts it because they had 1 more win, thanks to bulking up on division wins, than a team that was clearly the better team but was playing in the toughest division. |
12-01-2016, 09:14 PM | #1285 |
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the asking price for mccutcheon is insane, hes not 25 and cheap anymore....I understand the window is small...but this just seems like a bad deal.
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12-02-2016, 08:54 AM | #1286 | |
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I doubt it. It's been banned now in the minor leagues for several years. The Tony Gwynn situation scared a lot of players. Also, there's a good chunk of ML cities that already have banned smokeless tobacco sales. If anything, I think baseball is doing it because most of the work has already been done and it's not too tough to implement at this point. Smokeless tobacco might be far less common among big league newcomers | Fox News Last edited by Mizzou B-ball fan : 12-02-2016 at 08:54 AM. |
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12-02-2016, 02:08 PM | #1287 | |
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Yep exactly. It may not have mattered all that much this year (the Cubs played a weaker division, but had far more wins than Cleveland), but can anyone really tell me, when looking at their divisions, that Washington was a better team than Boston even though they won 2 more games?
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12-02-2016, 05:44 PM | #1288 |
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Bye bye Jamie!
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12-02-2016, 05:57 PM | #1289 |
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That guy was frustrating. So much potential. Always hurt.
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12-02-2016, 08:54 PM | #1290 |
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12-05-2016, 08:32 AM | #1291 | |
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12-05-2016, 11:07 AM | #1292 | |
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Shohei Otani eyeing move to MLB after 2017 season
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12-05-2016, 12:07 PM | #1293 |
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Supposedly the Cubs have been monitoring him for a while now.
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12-06-2016, 12:18 PM | #1294 |
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Sale to Boston for Moncada, Kopech, and two other prospects.
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12-06-2016, 01:16 PM | #1295 |
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Looks like Basabe & Victor Diaz, so not the Armageddon of including Swihart/Devers/Groome I wouldn't put past Dombrowski.
I think Moncada is overrated due to having a sexy game (like Devers better at 3B & it's not like we should need any OF'ers or a 2B for a few years) and Kopech could still easily flame out or end up in the bullpen, so I like this trade in a vacuum. It's just terrible when you combine it with trading Espinoza for Pomeranz and Margot/Asuaja/Allen for Kimbrel (and not reversing the Pomeranz deal when we had a chance due to Preller's shadiness.) Team should be fun to watch the next 3-4 years because it'll be carried by the young core, but I really enjoyed using our financial muscle to have the best player development system in baseball and a homegrown core instead of trying to chase super teams. Because those always work out so well |
12-06-2016, 04:55 PM | #1296 | |
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Getting Sale is big. It's going to come down to whether or not his arm slot leads to significant shoulder/elbow problems sometime soon. I watch him pitch and it just looks like a ticking time bomb ready to blow. Healthy he's a true ace and gives the Red Sox a really nice rotation. I think Moncada is #1 prospect in baseball good. He has an advanced approach for his age, has developing power, and the upside is off the charts. Kopech was the best pitcher in the AFL this year, but he has to show he has at least some command and the ability to throw more than 100 innings per year. All in all I think it's a good risk for the Red Sox and a hell of a return by the White Sox for a player they desperately needed to move for prospects like this. |
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12-06-2016, 06:46 PM | #1298 |
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I think it's a good trade for both teams. White Sox got the best possible haul they could ask for from a team. Red Sox got a true ace under control for a few years.
Assuming now that the Sox move Frazier, Robertson and maybe Quintana. A Quintana/Robertson deal to the Nationals would make a lot of sense. |
12-06-2016, 09:37 PM | #1299 |
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Sounds like the Wade Davis trade rumors are heating up. Looks like the Cubs and Nationals are the main suitors. Would think that the Nationals would be able to provide a better deal for the Royals.
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12-06-2016, 10:53 PM | #1300 |
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I've wanted Sale for like 3 years, so I'm just going to rubber stamp this one.
This is one of those rare fan moments (personally) when there's a guy you love to watch play the game and he suddenly lands on your team. Probably the only thing that would have made me happier would have been a bizarro-universe deal that brought Kershaw to the Red Sox. |
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