The Walking Dead -- TV Series Thread - Page 26

Honolulu_Blue · 11-12-2012, 08:05 AM

The episode was full of some great stuff from the comic that I wasn't sure they'd put in the series like the Governor's daughter, the games and, of course, the telephone.

I feel like they've handled the Michonne/Andrea/Woodbury story a bit clumsily, but I was glad to see Michonne leave. It'd be stupid if she stayed after everything that went down. That said, I don't blame Andrea for wanting to stay either.

I recall the games from the comic, but forget the details. I think I liked the way they did it on the show better. It was more WWE with zombies than actual gladiator type fights, which makes sense. The way the Governor explained it - both a source of entertainment and a way to ease the fear of the walkers - made sense. I mean, other than books there really isn't any other outlet for people. The masses must need be entertained.

Oh, Darryl... You can't name the baby Little Asskicker. Though it does roll off the tongue a little easier than Sophia Anne-Carol-Andrea-Amy-Jackie-Lori Grimes.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-12-2012, 08:07 AM

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Nobody thought to grab some formula along the way?

When they were talking about going to find some, Maggie mentioned that the baby area of one store was cleaned out and that Lori had always asked them to keep an eye out for formula along they way, but they hadn't had any luck finding any.

stevew · 11-12-2012, 08:21 AM

I really don't get the nerd boners for Michonne. She's been fairly horrible to watch thus far.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-12-2012, 08:25 AM

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I really don't get the nerd boners for Michonne. She's been fairly horrible to watch thus far.

It's more based on the comic and her potential rather than the execution of the character thus far.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-12-2012, 08:25 AM

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I really don't get the nerd boners for Michonne. She's been fairly horrible to watch thus far.

I blame the writers on that one. The character has plenty of potential, they just seem determined on making her more one-dimensional than most walkers. Her katana has more personality at this point.

Swaggs · 11-12-2012, 08:29 AM

I thought it was interesting that Darryl ended up being the one to feed the baby. Since he is a TV-unique character, I wonder if he might have more of a family background than we may have considered? Otherwise, kind of an odd choice (out of the dozen or so folks there) to be the one to feed the baby.

BTW, am I crazy or have the walkers pulled people apart with the fingers before? Not too big of a deal, but just removing teeth seems like it misses some of the previous "powers" of the walkers.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-12-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I thought it was interesting that Darryl ended up being the one to feed the baby. Since he is a TV-unique character, I wonder if he might have more of a family background than we may have considered? Otherwise, kind of an odd choice (out of the dozen or so folks there) to be the one to feed the baby.

Remember the whole mistreated-as-a-kid aspect of Darryl's backstory? I'm thinking the baby thing (as with Sophia previously) is meant to establish some of his issues, most likely to set up him ultimately being less than thrilled to see his brother return to the scene.

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BTW, am I crazy or have the walkers pulled people apart with the fingers before? Not too big of a deal, but just removing teeth seems like it misses some of the previous "powers" of the walkers.

I think it's supposed to emphasize the declining condition of the walkers.

PackerFanatic · 11-12-2012, 08:53 AM

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When they were talking about going to find some, Maggie mentioned that the baby area of one store was cleaned out and that Lori had always asked them to keep an eye out for formula along they way, but they hadn't had any luck finding any.

I had mentioned that last night too, and my wife had thought that maybe she was planning to breast-feed (which seems to make sense given the situation).

PackerFanatic · 11-12-2012, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I thought it was interesting that Darryl ended up being the one to feed the baby. Since he is a TV-unique character, I wonder if he might have more of a family background than we may have considered? Otherwise, kind of an odd choice (out of the dozen or so folks there) to be the one to feed the baby.

BTW, am I crazy or have the walkers pulled people apart with the fingers before? Not too big of a deal, but just removing teeth seems like it misses some of the previous "powers" of the walkers.

Or they assume that they can more quickly get away from their grasp than their bite.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-12-2012, 08:56 AM

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I blame the writers on that one. The character has plenty of potential, they just seem determined on making her more one-dimensional than most walkers. Her katana has more personality at this point.

To be honest, there aren't that many more dimensions to her in the comic either. She was crazy for a little while, talking to herself, but that just disappeared. Beyond that, she's black lady with a katana.

Honolulu_Blue · 11-12-2012, 08:57 AM

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Or they assume that they can more quickly get away from their grasp than their bite.

They are generally fit, strong fellas who are doing the fighting, not some pudgy self-righteous old dude in a On Golden Pond hat.

Bad-example · 11-12-2012, 09:09 AM

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To be honest, there aren't that many more dimensions to her in the comic either. She was crazy for a little while, talking to herself, but that just disappeared. Beyond that, she's black lady with a katana.

That's a lady????

PackerFanatic · 11-12-2012, 09:51 AM

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They are generally fit, strong fellas who are doing the fighting, not some pudgy self-righteous old dude in a On Golden Pond hat.

Exactly :-D

Draft Dodger · 11-12-2012, 10:33 AM

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The episode was full of some great stuff from the comic that I wasn't sure they'd put in the series like the Governor's daughter, the games and, of course, the telephone.

I have to say, I've been very impressed with the way they've handled the adaptation from the comics. They've included so many things from the comics - helicopter, Woodbury, telephone, Lori's death, etc - but have integrated them differently. In most cases, I think they've improved the storyline.

DanGarion · 11-12-2012, 10:48 AM

And to think all these months no one tried to see if this POTS works with a POTS powered phone. See if everyone didn't have cordless or cellular phones things would have turned out so much better!

(POTS for those at home stands for plain old telephone service).

PackerFanatic · 11-12-2012, 10:49 AM

I hadn't even thought of that, Dan...my first thought was "how is the phone working?!" Duh...

Honolulu_Blue · 11-12-2012, 11:09 AM

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I have to say, I've been very impressed with the way they've handled the adaptation from the comics. They've included so many things from the comics - helicopter, Woodbury, telephone, Lori's death, etc - but have integrated them differently. In most cases, I think they've improved the storyline.

I agree, but, then again, I've been labeled as an "apologist" so take that for what it's worth.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-12-2012, 11:36 AM

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And too thing all these months no one tried to see if this POTS works with a POTS powered phone. See if everyone didn't have cordless or cellular phones things would have turned out so much better!

(POTS for those at home stands for plain old telephone service).

edit to add spoiler tag -- I thought I was subtle enough, apparently that may not be the case.

Spoiler

hawk4669 · 11-12-2012, 12:18 PM

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I'm pretty sure the telephone service Rick is getting would work just as well no matter what type it was.

Ahh, someone read the comic. ;-)

JonInMiddleGA · 11-12-2012, 12:24 PM

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Ahh, someone read the comic. ;-)

Nah, just the online summaries of the comics

Chief Rum · 11-12-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

The episode was full of some great stuff from the comic that I wasn't sure they'd put in the series like the Governor's daughter, the games and, of course, the telephone.

I feel like they've handled the Michonne/Andrea/Woodbury story a bit clumsily, but I was glad to see Michonne leave. It'd be stupid if she stayed after everything that went down. That said, I don't blame Andrea for wanting to stay either.

I recall the games from the comic, but forget the details. I think I liked the way they did it on the show better. It was more WWE with zombies than actual gladiator type fights, which makes sense. The way the Governor explained it - both a source of entertainment and a way to ease the fear of the walkers - made sense. I mean, other than books there really isn't any other outlet for people. The masses must need be entertained.

Oh, Darryl... You can't name the baby Little Asskicker. Though it does roll off the tongue a little easier than Sophia Anne-Carol-Andrea-Amy-Jackie-Lori Grimes.

This reminds me that Rick is Rick Grimes. Which makes me wonder why I haven't seen a "I'm Rick Grimes, bitch!" meme.

Really, this needs to happen.

Draft Dodger · 11-12-2012, 12:54 PM

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I agree, but, then again, I've been labeled as an "apologist" so take that for what it's worth.

oh, you still are.

Bad-example · 11-12-2012, 12:58 PM

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GoldenEagle · 11-12-2012, 02:01 PM

I thought it was a decent episode, but didn't really advance the plot forward by much.

I am assuming the three graves being filled back in is a bit in the future? They didn't really find any of the bodies to bury.

I am guessing it is someone from the town calling the prison, although according to the comics that is different?

Thomkal · 11-12-2012, 02:02 PM

So I still can't believe they just think Carol is dead and did nothing to try to find her or her body.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-12-2012, 02:04 PM

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Spoiler

I felt like it was subtle enough to not require the spoiler tags, I can come up with several possible meanings for it. Thought it would only be clearly identifiable to those who know the source material (or have seen it spelled out in some recent interview stuff online iirc).

If it actually spoiled anything for anybody then I apologize, definitely not my intention.

GoldenEagle · 11-12-2012, 02:25 PM

And the whole what happened to Lori thing does not make sense. Obviously, that zombie had just had a snack but what happened to Lori's bones? If Carl didn't finish the job and she woke up, wouldn't there be a trail of blood?

Nothing really made sense about that scene.

DanGarion · 11-12-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I agree, but, then again, I've been labeled as an "apologist" so take that for what it's worth.

I have been too, but that was for a completely different topic on this board.

JediKooter · 11-12-2012, 02:27 PM

Considering two zombies couldn't finish T-Dog, but, one completely devoured Lori? Odd.

DanGarion · 11-12-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

edit to add spoiler tag -- I thought I was subtle enough, apparently that may not be the case.

Spoiler

I know this. I've read up to 99 in the comics...

DanGarion · 11-12-2012, 02:29 PM

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So I still can't believe they just think Carol is dead and did nothing to try to find her or her body.

Considering her grave is already filled, I think they just didn't show the body...

DanGarion · 11-12-2012, 02:30 PM

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Considering two zombies couldn't finish T-Dog, but, one completely devoured Lori? Odd.

I always considered the fact that zombies consume people but then stop so the person can become a zombie odd, personally.

Considering they are creating a competing zombie for the scare amount of food in their world.

Bad-example · 11-12-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I felt like it was subtle enough to not require the spoiler tags, I can come up with several possible meanings for it. Thought it would only be clearly identifiable to those who know the source material (or have seen it spelled out in some recent interview stuff online iirc).

If it actually spoiled anything for anybody then I apologize, definitely not my intention.

Cool. I edited my post to add spoiler tag to what I quoted.

JediKooter · 11-12-2012, 02:35 PM

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I always considered the fact that zombies consume people but then stop so the person can become a zombie odd, personally.

Considering they are creating a competing zombie for the scare amount of food in their world.

I've never really noticed that. I've really only seen this: If you're caught your food. If you somehow get away, you will soon join the ranks of the....wait for it...walking dead.

GoldenEagle · 11-12-2012, 02:35 PM

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Considering her grave is already filled, I think they just didn't show the body...

Like I said, the grave digging and being filled in was just a bit of foreshadowing. I think eventually they find all three bodies.

Thomkal · 11-12-2012, 02:45 PM

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Considering her grave is already filled, I think they just didn't show the body...

Yeah but they go to great lengths to show every gory bit of people's bodies on the show-including T-Dog's. So why not do the same with Carol? And the promo for next week shows some doubt there doesn't it?

DanGarion · 11-12-2012, 03:00 PM

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Yeah but they go to great lengths to show every gory bit of people's bodies on the show-including T-Dog's. So why not do the same with Carol? And the promo for next week shows some doubt there doesn't it?

I was confused as anyone about it, because they didn't show her dead, but then they showed Daryl at the grave and it filled. So who knows.

Radii · 11-12-2012, 03:03 PM

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I blame the writers on that one. The character has plenty of potential, they just seem determined on making her more one-dimensional than most walkers. Her katana has more personality at this point.

+1. Nothing that has happened with her has had any meaning at all for me. They can keep her dark and mysterious and that's fine, but they can't do that and expect the scenes with her unlocking and killing the walkers, or her scene with the Governor, or her ultimatum to Andrea about leaving the compound mean anything at all. Those are all things that could be deeply interesting if they happened with a well developed character that we care about, but with someone that we know little about, who cares? Given Andrea's past, I don't trust her judgement or actions either, so the fact that she has an 8 month history with Michonne, without any more details past that, doesn't clear anything up for me. It could still easily go somewhere, but so far, its the least interesting part of an otherwise very strong season.

JonInMiddleGA · 11-12-2012, 03:11 PM

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Considering two zombies couldn't finish T-Dog, but, one completely devoured Lori? Odd.

Less filling, tastes great?

Butter · 11-12-2012, 03:16 PM

I don't know that Carol is dead, unless we are supposed to do some herculean inferring from the last episode. Just jumping to a filled grave with Daryl mourning seems a little too obtuse for this show. Combine that with the Exec Producer coming out and saying that she was dead on "Talking Dead", and I think we've just been thrown a red herring.

JediKooter · 11-12-2012, 03:35 PM

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Less filling, tastes great?

Haha! Good point.

Jas_lov · 11-12-2012, 03:53 PM

Carol is definitely not dead. They wouldnt kill off one of the team offscreen like that. Maybe she ran into another group or is hiding alone somewhere but I dont think she's dead. T dogg sacrificed himself so she could live.

PackerFanatic · 11-12-2012, 03:55 PM

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I don't know that Carol is dead, unless we are supposed to do some herculean inferring from the last episode. Just jumping to a filled grave with Daryl mourning seems a little too obtuse for this show. Combine that with the Exec Producer coming out and saying that she was dead on "Talking Dead", and I think we've just been thrown a red herring.

I have to give the writers some amount of credit...if she really IS dead, then they royally F'D it up. The filled-in grave seems very strange...because why even bother digging it if you have no body yet? The only body they did have was T-Dog's, yet they still dug 3 graves and they seemed to have them all filled (granted they assumed they could go back and get Lori's I suppose).

A lot of explaining to do yet...

GoldenEagle · 11-12-2012, 03:56 PM

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Carol is definitely not dead. They wouldnt kill off one of the team offscreen like that. Maybe she ran into another group or is hiding alone somewhere but I dont think she's dead. T dogg sacrificed himself so she could live.

To be fair, he already knew he was going to die.

CrimsonFox · 11-12-2012, 04:30 PM

'Walking Dead' Spoilers: Robert Kirkman on 'Say the Word' - Hollywood Reporter

DaddyTorgo · 11-12-2012, 04:31 PM

So this is a good show? I should catch up on it on Netflix?

Jas_lov · 11-12-2012, 04:35 PM

Season 1 was good. Season 2 kind of boring because they became stationary for too long. Season 3 good so far because there's more action and movement. Definitely worth watching.

Radii · 11-12-2012, 04:38 PM

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I have to give the writers some amount of credit...if she really IS dead, then they royally F'D it up.

+1, I don't have a problem with anything I've seen on screen so far around this, but hearing that an executive producer came out and said that she is dead throws a weird wrench into all of that. If someone on the show clears up information like this then I expect it to be accurate. IF she is dead, then they've handled it very strangely on the show so far. IF she isn't, ridiculously poor form outside of the show and completely unnecessary fucking with the audience. Just don't answer the question at all, leave the matter open.

stevew · 11-12-2012, 04:45 PM

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So this is a good show? I should catch up on it on Netflix?

I think it's one of those shows that is so culturally persuasive that someone might think that you were a little bit "off" if you don't at least have a baseline of familiarity with it.

stevew · 11-12-2012, 04:47 PM

If they lie about her being dead it is most certainly a betrayal of the audience/show relationship.

11-12-2012, 08:05 AM	#1251
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	The episode was full of some great stuff from the comic that I wasn't sure they'd put in the series like the Governor's daughter, the games and, of course, the telephone. I feel like they've handled the Michonne/Andrea/Woodbury story a bit clumsily, but I was glad to see Michonne leave. It'd be stupid if she stayed after everything that went down. That said, I don't blame Andrea for wanting to stay either. I recall the games from the comic, but forget the details. I think I liked the way they did it on the show better. It was more WWE with zombies than actual gladiator type fights, which makes sense. The way the Governor explained it - both a source of entertainment and a way to ease the fear of the walkers - made sense. I mean, other than books there really isn't any other outlet for people. The masses must need be entertained. Oh, Darryl... You can't name the baby Little Asskicker. Though it does roll off the tongue a little easier than Sophia Anne-Carol-Andrea-Amy-Jackie-Lori Grimes. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

11-12-2012, 08:29 AM	#1256
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I thought it was interesting that Darryl ended up being the one to feed the baby. Since he is a TV-unique character, I wonder if he might have more of a family background than we may have considered? Otherwise, kind of an odd choice (out of the dozen or so folks there) to be the one to feed the baby. BTW, am I crazy or have the walkers pulled people apart with the fingers before? Not too big of a deal, but just removing teeth seems like it misses some of the previous "powers" of the walkers. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-12-2012, 10:48 AM	#1265
DanGarion Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Great Northwest	And to think all these months no one tried to see if this POTS works with a POTS powered phone. See if everyone didn't have cordless or cellular phones things would have turned out so much better! (POTS for those at home stands for plain old telephone service). __________________ Los Angeles Dodgers Check out the FOFC Groups on Facebook! and Reddit! DON'T REPORT ME BRO! Last edited by DanGarion : 11-12-2012 at 02:26 PM.

11-12-2012, 02:01 PM	#1274
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	I thought it was a decent episode, but didn't really advance the plot forward by much. I am assuming the three graves being filled back in is a bit in the future? They didn't really find any of the bodies to bury. I am guessing it is someone from the town calling the prison, although according to the comics that is different? __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

11-12-2012, 02:25 PM	#1277
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	And the whole what happened to Lori thing does not make sense. Obviously, that zombie had just had a snack but what happened to Lori's bones? If Carl didn't finish the job and she woke up, wouldn't there be a trail of blood? Nothing really made sense about that scene. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

11-12-2012, 08:21 AM	#1253
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I really don't get the nerd boners for Michonne. She's been fairly horrible to watch thus far.

11-12-2012, 10:49 AM	#1266
PackerFanatic Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I hadn't even thought of that, Dan...my first thought was "how is the phone working?!" Duh...

11-12-2012, 02:02 PM	#1275
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	So I still can't believe they just think Carol is dead and did nothing to try to find her or her body.

11-12-2012, 02:27 PM	#1279
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	Considering two zombies couldn't finish T-Dog, but, one completely devoured Lori? Odd. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

11-12-2012, 03:16 PM	#1290
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	I don't know that Carol is dead, unless we are supposed to do some herculean inferring from the last episode. Just jumping to a filled grave with Daryl mourning seems a little too obtuse for this show. Combine that with the Exec Producer coming out and saying that she was dead on "Talking Dead", and I think we've just been thrown a red herring. __________________ My listening habits Last edited by Butter : 11-12-2012 at 03:16 PM.

11-12-2012, 03:53 PM	#1292
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Carol is definitely not dead. They wouldnt kill off one of the team offscreen like that. Maybe she ran into another group or is hiding alone somewhere but I dont think she's dead. T dogg sacrificed himself so she could live.

11-12-2012, 04:30 PM	#1295
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	'Walking Dead' Spoilers: Robert Kirkman on 'Say the Word' - Hollywood Reporter

11-12-2012, 04:31 PM	#1296
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	So this is a good show? I should catch up on it on Netflix?

11-12-2012, 04:35 PM	#1297
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Season 1 was good. Season 2 kind of boring because they became stationary for too long. Season 3 good so far because there's more action and movement. Definitely worth watching.

11-12-2012, 04:47 PM	#1300
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	If they lie about her being dead it is most certainly a betrayal of the audience/show relationship.

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