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Lathum · 07-20-2007, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

So were you just told it was Cronin? Not the character name?

Though now that I think of it, it was Cronin who mentioned the person and character name, so I guess that whole lead might have been a red herring.

I didn't learn who Cronin was.

I also don't want to go into detail about what happened because I don't want a wolf to be able to use those details.

Telle · 07-20-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Swaggs is the bodyguard, you're suggesting? If so how does that reconcile with getting an identical dream with ardent.

Simple.. ardent was the last player to sign up.. at the last minute as Tangle was already finalizing things. It's certainly within the realm of reason that Tangle may have repeated a dream to him instead of making a new one.. and may have even thought that it would be fun to see if that led us on a wild goose chase.

twothree · 07-20-2007, 02:47 PM

Well, with Lathum's information out there. Here is my reveal. Because, I see myself doing more harm than good if I don't do my reveal.

I am Deckard.

I can only scan on even numbered nights. (I scanned Telle on night 2).

And, I can only attempt to kill on odd numbered nights, starring with last night. Barkeep49 description of what happened last night does not match my description.

I attemped to kill st. cronin last night. Yeah, that's right. Stupid me. Stupid reasoning. (Since I knew Telle is a human and thought Telle and st. cronin had the same dream. I thought st. cronin was Priss not Holden.) However, I never got a chance to kill st. cronin. Two replicants were in the process of killing st. cronin when I got there. And, they manged to drive me off and kill him. (So, I know at least 2 replicants remain.)

That doesn't mean Barkeep49 is a replicant, since I was unable to identify any of the replicants. I still don't know who they are. But Barkeep49's story is wrong.

If I am not voted off, then whoever Lathum or Telle wants me to scan tonight I will, because I have messed up this game.

And, now I have to leave for work. Which sucks.

Telle · 07-20-2007, 02:49 PM

And yes, I can verify that twothree was the Bladerunner that scanned me.

path12 · 07-20-2007, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I didn't learn who Cronin was.

I also don't want to go into detail about what happened because I don't want a wolf to be able to use those details.

Fair enough.

Lathum · 07-20-2007, 02:52 PM

umm, did we just lose?

Telle · 07-20-2007, 02:53 PM

Problem is, unless we still have a bodyguard (and can trust whoever speaks up about it) if you scan someone tonight and get killed tonight you won't have a chance to tell us what you found out.

Lathum · 07-20-2007, 02:53 PM

dola- I don't see why barkeeps story is wrong.

path12 · 07-20-2007, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

umm, did we just lose?

I don't know that was a time to reveal. Not blaming twothree, but I think the replicants just got a big break.

path12 · 07-20-2007, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telle

Problem is, unless we still have a bodyguard (and can trust whoever speaks up about it) if you scan someone tonight and get killed tonight you won't have a chance to tell us what you found out.

Unless he can protect himself from attack since Deckard is good with a gun.

Telle · 07-20-2007, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Unless he can protect himself from attack since Deckard is good with a gun.

True... twothree, do you have any reason to believe that you can fight off an attempted attack on you?

Lathum · 07-20-2007, 02:57 PM

So the rules say the replican'ts win when they discover Deckard and Holden.

If we send twothree to mars then technicaly they didn't "discover" him.

Plus this could be an attempt by twothree to get the real Deckard to reveal.

VOTE TWOTHREE

Telle · 07-20-2007, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

So the rules say the replican'ts win when they discover Deckard and Holden.

If we send twothree to mars then technicaly they didn't "discover" him.

Plus this could be an attempt by twothree to get the real Deckard to reveal.

VOTE TWOTHREE

No no! They win when they discover Tyrell and Sebastian.

path12 · 07-20-2007, 02:59 PM

Yeah, Deckard and Holden are our seers.

Barkeep49 · 07-20-2007, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twothree

Well, with Lathum's information out there. Here is my reveal. Because, I see myself doing more harm than good if I don't do my reveal.

I am Deckard.

I can only scan on even numbered nights. (I scanned Telle on night 2).

And, I can only attempt to kill on odd numbered nights, starring with last night. Barkeep49 description of what happened last night does not match my description.

I attemped to kill st. cronin last night. Yeah, that's right. Stupid me. Stupid reasoning. (Since I knew Telle is a human and thought Telle and st. cronin had the same dream. I thought st. cronin was Priss not Holden.) However, I never got a chance to kill st. cronin. Two replicants were in the process of killing st. cronin when I got there. And, they manged to drive me off and kill him. (So, I know at least 2 replicants remain.)

That doesn't mean Barkeep49 is a replicant, since I was unable to identify any of the replicants. I still don't know who they are. But Barkeep49's story is wrong.

If I am not voted off, then whoever Lathum or Telle wants me to scan tonight I will, because I have messed up this game.

And, now I have to leave for work. Which sucks.

You can only verify Telle then?

Telle · 07-20-2007, 03:03 PM

I'm also not convinced that Barkeep's story is wrong.. the two could fit together.

Barkeep49 · 07-20-2007, 03:05 PM

I just reread my PM. I don't see anything in it to suggest that my story conflicts with twothrees so I am inclined to believe twothree, especially with telle's vouch.

My question is has anyone been scanned by the wolf's seer?

Telle · 07-20-2007, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I just reread my PM. I don't see anything in it to suggest that my story conflicts with twothrees so I am inclined to believe twothree, especially with telle's vouch.

My question is has anyone been scanned by the wolf's seer?

And why did you have a gun? You said you got into a gun fight with the replicants. Those who know the book/movie.. did most people in this setting carry weapons?

Barkeep49 · 07-20-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

And why did you have a gun? You said you got into a gun fight with the replicants. Those who know the book/movie.. did most people in this setting carry weapons?

I didn't know I had a gun until last night. My initial PM never said I had one.

I think the best thing to do is this:

twothree scans me tonight. The bodyguard protects twothree. In this way come tomorrow we'll have a COT of Lathum, me, and telle. Even if the wolfs get one of us, we're well on our way to having a nice COT.

Telle · 07-20-2007, 03:18 PM

But the bodyguard can only protect for one night, right? So this'll be twothree's last scan. Is it worth it to spend the scan on building a COT rather than trying to identify a replicant?

Lathum · 07-20-2007, 03:22 PM

Unvote twothree
VOte Swaggs

my bad, it seemed a little strange to me.

Lathum · 07-20-2007, 03:22 PM

I see what BK is saying but I fully expect me or Telle to die tonight.

Telle · 07-20-2007, 03:24 PM

I think right now Swaggs and Alan are my top 2. My recommendation is that we send Swaggs off to Mars and then twothree tries to kill Alan tonight.

I think I already voted for Swaggs, but just to be sure...
Vote Swaggs

LoneStarGirl · 07-20-2007, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

dola- I also think one of the bad guys is a very expierienced player to see right through cronin.

I say either Path or Barkeep.

I am more than happy to jump on a barkeep bandwagon

path12 · 07-20-2007, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telle

I think right now Swaggs and Alan are my top 2. My recommendation is that we send Swaggs off to Mars and then twothree tries to kill Alan tonight.

I think I already voted for Swaggs, but just to be sure...
Vote Swaggs

I thought twothree said he could only scan/kill on alternating nights. So he couldn't kill tonight.

LoneStarGirl · 07-20-2007, 03:30 PM

I am wicked confused... although I kind of like it. I think I have already voted swaggs so I am going to stick with that for now... we still have plenty of time

LoneStarGirl · 07-20-2007, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

I thought twothree said he could only scan/kill on alternating nights. So he couldn't kill tonight.

He does it on even numbered nights... today is night 4

Telle · 07-20-2007, 03:32 PM

I'm saying he should kill instead of scanning. I think we're in a pretty bad spot right now and so I think we need to take more drastic action than just building a circle of trust.

But this is my first werewolf game, so my gaming-theory may not be up to par with the rest of you.

Lathum · 07-20-2007, 03:33 PM

I agree twothree should kill Alan at first oppritunity.

Telle · 07-20-2007, 03:33 PM

Unless he can only kill on the nights he isn't scanning?? And of course he's gone and can't answer.

Ok.. if he can kill, I say he should take out Alan. If he can only scan tonight, then scan Barkeep. Sound good?

Lathum · 07-20-2007, 03:33 PM

I am out untill after the deadline.

Lathum · 07-20-2007, 03:34 PM

dola- if he can only do one I would rather he scan barkeep. I think it is more valuable to get another person cleared rather then take a shot in the dark.

path12 · 07-20-2007, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twothree

I can only scan on even numbered nights. (I scanned Telle on night 2).

And, I can only attempt to kill on odd numbered nights, starring with last night.

He scans tonight. He can attempt a kill tomorrow night.

path12 · 07-20-2007, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telle

But this is my first werewolf game, so my gaming-theory may not be up to par with the rest of you.

I think you're doing fine.

Telle · 07-20-2007, 03:49 PM

Well I'm out of here for a bit. Not sure if I'll be back before the deadline or not.

ntndeacon · 07-20-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

We're also missing Cheif Rum (said he'd be away most of the day) and NTN.

I have not been scanned as of yet.

path12 · 07-20-2007, 04:11 PM

I better put in a vote. Looks like a Swaggs runaway, though with no info I'm not sure exactly what this is telling us.

VOTE SWAGGS

Barkeep49 · 07-20-2007, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

I better put in a vote. Looks like a Swaggs runaway, though with no info I'm not sure exactly what this is telling us.

VOTE SWAGGS

???

It seems fairly clear that either AE or Swaggs had a dream implanted in them. We'll have thus done a 1 for 1 trade. Sucks if you're the villager between Swaggs and AE, but seems like a solid move for us to do. I'm really not sure what information you wanted to have.

Barkeep49 · 07-20-2007, 04:52 PM

Ok I'm leaving shortly for Harry Potter. I'm hoping I can snag a hot spot someone and connect back, but otherwise I'll be out until after deadline.

Swaggs · 07-20-2007, 05:48 PM

It stinks that you won't learn anything from this vote (particularly that I am a human), but I think it is a fair trade to get both AE and me out. I feel pretty good that he was a replicant.

In case I am not around at the deadline, good luck villagers.

Alan T · 07-20-2007, 06:00 PM

Checking in from canada, on a stupid 31k phone connection. i like how the instance I leave the country everyone jumps at me.

Twothree, do me a favor and scan me tonight, so you can set these people straight.

Anyhows, Yeah, I was in a rush this morning. You try getting three kids ready for a weekend trip while working and doing other stuff. So I didnt get a chance to analyze everything that happened fully. I definitly think there are some wolves in the bunch who saw a chance to take me out once I left.

Unvote Lathum
Vote Swaggs

Anyways, I likely wont get another chance to check in until sunday night.

Twothree scan me tonight, trying to kill me is foolish as it just kills a cleared villager and gets nothing done. Scanning me at least would clear me and not do their work for them.

LoneStarGirl · 07-20-2007, 06:01 PM

just in case i didn't do it earlier...

vote swaggs

Lorena · 07-20-2007, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

You try getting three kids ready for a weekend trip while working and doing other stuff.

It ain't easy

ntndeacon · 07-20-2007, 07:29 PM

I have questions. does 23's seeing of the two replicant means that is all that is there? have we killed one? I expect either one replicant or all of them. so seeing two makes me 1st hopeful that one is shipped off already, and 2nd apprehensive about either 23 or Barkeep or both.

ntndeacon · 07-20-2007, 07:43 PM

By the way I am not neccesarily advocating a change today. I am going to vote for Swaggs as well. The one for one strategy makes sense. However there is a discrepency between Barkeep and twothree's stories. Barkeep on retrospection saw st. cronin and ONE other figure....Twothree saw TWO other figures beside cronin. this sounds sketchy.

ntndeacon · 07-20-2007, 07:44 PM

Vote Swaggs

RendeR · 07-20-2007, 07:51 PM

unvote twothree

vote alan t

I feel good about AE being one of the replicants, no-one has admitted being scanned by the replicant Priss at all. I think we got one and both were in on killing Cronin.

tanglewood · 07-20-2007, 08:01 PM

Voting closed.

tanglewood · 07-20-2007, 08:01 PM

Day 4 Vote Count

Swaggs 9 - Barkeep49, LoneStarGirl, twothree, Jonathan Ezarik, Lathum, Telle, path12, Alan T, ntndeacon
twothree 1 - Swaggs
Alan T 1 - RendeR

Did not vote: Chief Rum

Today it is Swaggs who must take the regreftful one way journey to Mars. Don't worry, I hear the cold is great for your metabolism.

Night 4 actions in by 9pm EST SUNDAY

LoneStarGirl · 07-20-2007, 08:12 PM

so Chief didn't vote and we still have 11 players this.... this will be a long weekend.

07-20-2007, 02:59 PM	#1264
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Yeah, Deckard and Holden are our seers. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-20-2007, 04:11 PM	#1287
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I better put in a vote. Looks like a Swaggs runaway, though with no info I'm not sure exactly what this is telling us. VOTE SWAGGS __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-20-2007, 05:48 PM	#1290
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	It stinks that you won't learn anything from this vote (particularly that I am a human), but I think it is a fair trade to get both AE and me out. I feel pretty good that he was a replicant. In case I am not around at the deadline, good luck villagers. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

07-20-2007, 07:51 PM	#1297
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	unvote twothree vote alan t I feel good about AE being one of the replicants, no-one has admitted being scanned by the replicant Priss at all. I think we got one and both were in on killing Cronin. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

07-20-2007, 08:01 PM	#1299
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Day 4 Vote Count Swaggs 9 - Barkeep49, LoneStarGirl, twothree, Jonathan Ezarik, Lathum, Telle, path12, Alan T, ntndeacon twothree 1 - Swaggs Alan T 1 - RendeR Did not vote: Chief Rum Today it is Swaggs who must take the regreftful one way journey to Mars. Don't worry, I hear the cold is great for your metabolism. Night 4 actions in by 9pm EST SUNDAY Last edited by tanglewood : 07-20-2007 at 08:02 PM.

07-20-2007, 02:47 PM	#1253
twothree College Prospect Join Date: May 2005	Well, with Lathum's information out there. Here is my reveal. Because, I see myself doing more harm than good if I don't do my reveal. I am Deckard. I can only scan on even numbered nights. (I scanned Telle on night 2). And, I can only attempt to kill on odd numbered nights, starring with last night. Barkeep49 description of what happened last night does not match my description. I attemped to kill st. cronin last night. Yeah, that's right. Stupid me. Stupid reasoning. (Since I knew Telle is a human and thought Telle and st. cronin had the same dream. I thought st. cronin was Priss not Holden.) However, I never got a chance to kill st. cronin. Two replicants were in the process of killing st. cronin when I got there. And, they manged to drive me off and kill him. (So, I know at least 2 replicants remain.) That doesn't mean Barkeep49 is a replicant, since I was unable to identify any of the replicants. I still don't know who they are. But Barkeep49's story is wrong. If I am not voted off, then whoever Lathum or Telle wants me to scan tonight I will, because I have messed up this game. And, now I have to leave for work. Which sucks.

07-20-2007, 02:49 PM	#1254
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	And yes, I can verify that twothree was the Bladerunner that scanned me.

07-20-2007, 02:52 PM	#1256
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	umm, did we just lose?

07-20-2007, 02:53 PM	#1257
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Problem is, unless we still have a bodyguard (and can trust whoever speaks up about it) if you scan someone tonight and get killed tonight you won't have a chance to tell us what you found out.

07-20-2007, 02:53 PM	#1258
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	dola- I don't see why barkeeps story is wrong.

07-20-2007, 02:57 PM	#1262
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So the rules say the replican'ts win when they discover Deckard and Holden. If we send twothree to mars then technicaly they didn't "discover" him. Plus this could be an attempt by twothree to get the real Deckard to reveal. VOTE TWOTHREE

07-20-2007, 03:03 PM	#1266
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	I'm also not convinced that Barkeep's story is wrong.. the two could fit together.

07-20-2007, 03:05 PM	#1267
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I just reread my PM. I don't see anything in it to suggest that my story conflicts with twothrees so I am inclined to believe twothree, especially with telle's vouch. My question is has anyone been scanned by the wolf's seer?

07-20-2007, 03:18 PM	#1270
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	But the bodyguard can only protect for one night, right? So this'll be twothree's last scan. Is it worth it to spend the scan on building a COT rather than trying to identify a replicant?

07-20-2007, 03:22 PM	#1271
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Unvote twothree VOte Swaggs my bad, it seemed a little strange to me.

07-20-2007, 03:22 PM	#1272
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I see what BK is saying but I fully expect me or Telle to die tonight.

07-20-2007, 03:24 PM	#1273
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	I think right now Swaggs and Alan are my top 2. My recommendation is that we send Swaggs off to Mars and then twothree tries to kill Alan tonight. I think I already voted for Swaggs, but just to be sure... Vote Swaggs

07-20-2007, 03:30 PM	#1276
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	I am wicked confused... although I kind of like it. I think I have already voted swaggs so I am going to stick with that for now... we still have plenty of time

07-20-2007, 03:32 PM	#1278
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	I'm saying he should kill instead of scanning. I think we're in a pretty bad spot right now and so I think we need to take more drastic action than just building a circle of trust. But this is my first werewolf game, so my gaming-theory may not be up to par with the rest of you.

07-20-2007, 03:33 PM	#1279
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I agree twothree should kill Alan at first oppritunity.

07-20-2007, 03:33 PM	#1280
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Unless he can only kill on the nights he isn't scanning?? And of course he's gone and can't answer. Ok.. if he can kill, I say he should take out Alan. If he can only scan tonight, then scan Barkeep. Sound good?

07-20-2007, 03:33 PM	#1281
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I am out untill after the deadline.

07-20-2007, 03:34 PM	#1282
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	dola- if he can only do one I would rather he scan barkeep. I think it is more valuable to get another person cleared rather then take a shot in the dark.

07-20-2007, 03:49 PM	#1285
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Well I'm out of here for a bit. Not sure if I'll be back before the deadline or not.

07-20-2007, 04:52 PM	#1289
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ok I'm leaving shortly for Harry Potter. I'm hoping I can snag a hot spot someone and connect back, but otherwise I'll be out until after deadline.

07-20-2007, 06:00 PM	#1291
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Checking in from canada, on a stupid 31k phone connection. i like how the instance I leave the country everyone jumps at me. Twothree, do me a favor and scan me tonight, so you can set these people straight. Anyhows, Yeah, I was in a rush this morning. You try getting three kids ready for a weekend trip while working and doing other stuff. So I didnt get a chance to analyze everything that happened fully. I definitly think there are some wolves in the bunch who saw a chance to take me out once I left. Unvote Lathum Vote Swaggs Anyways, I likely wont get another chance to check in until sunday night. Twothree scan me tonight, trying to kill me is foolish as it just kills a cleared villager and gets nothing done. Scanning me at least would clear me and not do their work for them.

07-20-2007, 06:01 PM	#1292
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	just in case i didn't do it earlier... vote swaggs

07-20-2007, 07:29 PM	#1294
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I have questions. does 23's seeing of the two replicant means that is all that is there? have we killed one? I expect either one replicant or all of them. so seeing two makes me 1st hopeful that one is shipped off already, and 2nd apprehensive about either 23 or Barkeep or both.

07-20-2007, 07:43 PM	#1295
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	By the way I am not neccesarily advocating a change today. I am going to vote for Swaggs as well. The one for one strategy makes sense. However there is a discrepency between Barkeep and twothree's stories. Barkeep on retrospection saw st. cronin and ONE other figure....Twothree saw TWO other figures beside cronin. this sounds sketchy.

07-20-2007, 07:44 PM	#1296
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Vote Swaggs

07-20-2007, 08:01 PM	#1298
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Voting closed.

07-20-2007, 08:12 PM	#1300
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	so Chief didn't vote and we still have 11 players this.... this will be a long weekend.

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