Mixed Martial Arts Thread (UFC and others) - Page 26

DaddyTorgo · 11-16-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

tarry poo Ill bet! I hope he gets better cuz I hated that!

yeah wtf was up with that?

AlexB · 11-16-2009, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

Winner shouldve NOT thrown those punches. That guy was in Cuba.

Maybe, but you fight until the ref stops you. Much the same like Henderson did to Bisping.

And to Mike Goldberg - Leicester is pronounced the same as in Frank LESTER godammit!!! Somebody should have told you after TUF!

Good night for most of the English fighters, but Hardy's gonna get slaughtered next time out.

Not sure what to make of Bisping: 2nd round wa great, but he got stunned again - has Henderson left him with a poor punch resistance now?

Flasch186 · 11-16-2009, 03:19 PM

well I think you have a choice right then to be able to market yourself as 'merciful' and get all the talk about that afterwards, headlines, etc. OR you get to look like Hendo afterwards. Id think 'merciful' and capitalizing on it would be good

DaddyTorgo · 11-16-2009, 03:28 PM

bisping's a punk

EagleFan · 11-16-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

Maybe, but you fight until the ref stops you.

Not when your opponent is obviously out cold as he hits the ground. It's not like he was just stunned, he was out cold. Nothing good can come from those extra punches.

EagleFan · 11-16-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

bisping's a punk

+1

PilotMan · 11-16-2009, 09:22 PM

What the hell? Did I just step into the twilight zone? Didn't we have this exact conversation a little while back?

EagleFan · 11-16-2009, 10:48 PM

Groundhog Day...

dervack · 11-17-2009, 06:41 PM

I think part of the blame is on the ref. You watch that Winner match and you can see that not only is he backing away from the action, he's almost on the other side of the octagon when that punch lands. I guess we should be happy that the first punch landed on the shoulder because that was the more powerful of the two he threw after the guy was out.

DeToxRox · 11-17-2009, 09:19 PM

Looks like Brock went under the knife with a minor surgery and is already feeling better. Seems like he'll be on track to be back this year to fight the winner of the inevitable Cain/Carwin fight. If he's out a full year then he'll fight whoever wins that fight vs Big Nog I assume.

Flasch186 · 11-17-2009, 09:23 PM

Buyer beware, that is the type of illness that can rear its ugly head at any time....

wishing the Monster the best and hope he gets well so he can get whooped in the cage.

DeToxRox · 11-18-2009, 02:34 AM

Wow. Randy vs Mark Coleman at 109. I actually love that fight as both guys still can go.

That is also the targeted show for Anderson vs Vitor.

Add in Hughes vs Renzo Gracie and Frank Trigg vs Matt Serra already on there, and you have one star studded, albeit old, show.

DaddyTorgo · 11-18-2009, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Wow. Randy vs Mark Coleman at 109. I actually love that fight as both guys still can go.

That is also the targeted show for Anderson vs Vitor.

Add in Hughes vs Renzo Gracie and Frank Trigg vs Matt Serra already on there, and you have one star studded, albeit old, show.

is that UFC 109 or a typo and it was the old UFC 79 show?

With the exception of Anderson/Vitor it could be either one.

PilotMan · 11-18-2009, 07:29 AM

You got it with old. Man, really freakin' old. It really doesn't excite me all that much. Silva/Vitor could be interesting, but I don't really see much for Couture or Coleman to gain.

For Randy, it would seem a win over Vera would have moved him further up the food chain than that, and Coleman is just never going to contend again, sort of like Wanderlei, he's just an old name that can sell tix, but in the end a win for either guy, just doesn't do much for the division.

DaddyTorgo · 11-18-2009, 07:31 AM

how long has it been since Trigg fought and was smoked by Matt Hughes anyways? That's pretty much the last time he's been in a cage in an actual fight right?

Calis · 11-18-2009, 11:32 AM

Trigg has a couple of quality wins over Misaki and Mayhem since getting beat by Hughes the 2nd time, but those were both in rings and not cages. He is a solid 2nd tier fighter still, the fight between him and Serra is the only one of those three that sounds even mildly appealing or competitive.

Couture vs. Coleman is absolutely terrible and I hope that doesn't happen. Couture is coming off a win over a legit 205'er, keep him moving up the chain or at least put him against a guy who has a fair amount to gain by beating him. This makes no sense to me.

Hughes vs. Renzo is more interesting than the Royce matchup but not by much. I haven't seen Renzo fight in a long time, and while he is definitely more well rounded, he shouldn't be a problem for Hughes at all.

These all sound pretty bad though, and none should above a card opener.

Can't wait for Aldo and Brown tonight.

AlexB · 11-18-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

What the hell? Did I just step into the twilight zone? Didn't we have this exact conversation a little while back?

We did, I was trying to ironically make the reverse point to the Bisping situation, thinking that that I had being vocal against Henderson doing it to the Count last time - just checked and I actually didn't post on the subject, so the irony might not have been lost: it might have needed a GPS to be found!

The point is neither were right, but apparently it's OK if it's the American hero doing it to the Brit who is clearly playing up to the cameras to sell PPVs. Meh - not worth an argument over it.

DaddyTorgo · 11-18-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jari Rantanen's Shorts

We did, I was trying to ironically make the reverse point to the Bisping situation, thinking that that I had being vocal against Henderson doing it to the Count last time - just checked and I actually didn't post on the subject, so the irony might not have been lost: it might have needed a GPS to be found!

The point is neither were right, but apparently it's OK if it's the American hero doing it to the Brit who is clearly playing up to the cameras to sell PPVs. Meh - not worth an argument over it.

i think it's more because people feel that whatever his nationality may be, Bisping is a cocky asshole.

i could care less if he's from America, Poland, Nigeria...it doesn't matter worth a shit to me. What pisses me off about him is his cocky attitude and the disrespect that he showed to Matt Hamill, who for chrissakes is a deaf guy doing MMA during TUF.

thesloppy · 11-18-2009, 07:19 PM

If you're like me and never know what the fuck is going on in the WEC, here's a heads up that Brown vs. Aldo is live tonight, with the card starting in ~40 minutes.

Flasch186 · 11-18-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i think it's more because people feel that whatever his nationality may be, Bisping is a cocky asshole.

i could care less if he's from America, Poland, Nigeria...it doesn't matter worth a shit to me. What pisses me off about him is his cocky attitude and the disrespect that he showed to Matt Hamill, who for chrissakes is a deaf guy doing MMA during TUF.

couldnt

DaddyTorgo · 11-18-2009, 08:36 PM

yeah yeah...good point. that's what i get for rushing a post at work

DeToxRox · 11-18-2009, 08:58 PM

Dana said May 1st in Montreal will be Machida/Shogun II.

EagleFan · 11-18-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186

couldnt

couldn't

DeToxRox · 11-18-2009, 10:08 PM

What a fucking performance in the ME of WEC tonight. Just amazing.

PilotMan · 11-18-2009, 10:10 PM

Really nice finishing there. Total victory.

thesloppy · 11-18-2009, 10:35 PM

Aldo is nuts. His combos are so fluid, hands, knees, super snappy kicks.

MacroGuru · 11-21-2009, 05:24 PM

Just ordered 106 to watch tonight...My 9 year old has been getting into watching it and asking about the moves and styles over the past year with me.

He currently practices Capoeira and we found an MMA center near us I might get him into for the training so when he gets older if he wants to continue he can.

EagleFan · 11-21-2009, 08:44 PM

Saunders is an asshole. I know we've debated punching after someone is out but that last punch he threw was not only after Davis was done but while the ref was between them stopping the fight.

EagleFan · 11-21-2009, 09:15 PM

What was that shitty enterance music Saddolah entered to?

dervack · 11-21-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Saunders is an asshole. I know we've debated punching after someone is out but that last punch he threw was not only after Davis was done but while the ref was between them stopping the fight.

Yeah, that was brutal. He looked like he went over to apologize to someone cageside. Maybe Dana? But nevertheless, not a cool move. Almost on par with Babalu and definitely on par with BJ/

EagleFan · 11-21-2009, 09:20 PM

Baroni might want to stop trying to block those knees with his face.

Recoil · 11-21-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

What was that shitty enterance music Saddolah entered to?

Tiger Army

MacroGuru · 11-21-2009, 09:48 PM

Little Nog showed his power right off the bat.

DeToxRox · 11-21-2009, 10:37 PM

Every fight aired so far has been exciting. Lots of good finishes, but Rumble Johnson vs Koscheck is about to go on, and I cannot fucking wait.

EagleFan · 11-21-2009, 10:49 PM

I have never seen Koscheck fight, why is he hated by the crowd?

EagleFan · 11-21-2009, 10:49 PM

That could be a sucky way for this fight to end.

Calis · 11-21-2009, 10:49 PM

Damn it, I think Rumble just ended this fight early with that.

Edit: Hmm, obviously an illegal shot, but doesn't look like it landed the way it originally looked. Almost would like to see Kos pull this off now.

DeToxRox · 11-21-2009, 10:52 PM

BS. That knee was all forearm. Yes he should be docked a point for the knee but that was a finger to the eye.

MacroGuru · 11-21-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

BS. That knee was all forearm. Yes he should be docked a point for the knee but that was a finger to the eye.

Yeah but it's the wrong eye he is complaining about from the poke.

DeToxRox · 11-21-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

Yeah but it's the wrong eye he is complaining about from the poke.

Yeah I dunno wtf happened. The post round replay looks like it clearly shows the knee missed his face. I think he was milking it from an earlier shot.

DeToxRox · 11-21-2009, 10:57 PM

And now we're even on the eye pokes.

DeToxRox · 11-21-2009, 10:58 PM

And Koscheck goes up on the eye pokes 2-1.

EagleFan · 11-21-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

I have never seen Koscheck fight, why is he hated by the crowd?

I think I got my answer...

DeToxRox · 11-21-2009, 11:11 PM

Nice sub for Koscheck but I wish we didn't have those stoppages. I'd rather see a rematch from tonight then Koscheck vs Hardy. I want Hardy vs GSP.

Calis · 11-21-2009, 11:12 PM

Most of the hatred comes from his time on TUF when he came across as a pretty stereotypical jock asshole. He has milked that ever since.

Guy is a solid fighter though, and I still can't believe why Rumble was actually favored in that fight.

To be honest though, what he said was pretty accurate and I'd rather see Koscheck vs. Hardy then Hardy vs. GSP, but you have to throw someone to the slaughter, so it might as well be Hardy.

Calis · 11-21-2009, 11:33 PM

Been a really solid night of fights considering it looked rather lackluster on paper.

Forrest is impressing me here. Tito still has the elbows that he always has.

EagleFan · 11-21-2009, 11:37 PM

Dominant round by Griffin

DeToxRox · 11-21-2009, 11:39 PM

I think this will go to Tito but it should probably be a split decision to Forrest.

EDIT: Mid edit but it was a SD to Forrest.

Calis · 11-21-2009, 11:42 PM

Good decision, was afraid that this would be another screwjob.

Tito had nothing to offer in that last round. Good fight until that point.

DeToxRox · 11-21-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Calis

Good decision, was afraid that this would be another screwjob.

Tito had nothing to offer in that last round. Good fight until that point.

Yep.

I would hope we get a 3rd fight between them before the end of 2010. Neither fight was dominating by either fighter, just two good fights and one more will sell itself well enough.

11-16-2009, 03:19 PM	#1253
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	well I think you have a choice right then to be able to market yourself as 'merciful' and get all the talk about that afterwards, headlines, etc. OR you get to look like Hendo afterwards. Id think 'merciful' and capitalizing on it would be good __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

11-16-2009, 03:28 PM	#1254
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	bisping's a punk __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

11-16-2009, 09:22 PM	#1257
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11-17-2009, 06:41 PM	#1259
dervack College Prospect Join Date: Jun 2005	I think part of the blame is on the ref. You watch that Winner match and you can see that not only is he backing away from the action, he's almost on the other side of the octagon when that punch lands. I guess we should be happy that the first punch landed on the shoulder because that was the more powerful of the two he threw after the guy was out. __________________ Semi-updated with my ramblings. Semi. But more recently, updated lots. Please check it out and let me know what you think The Year That Wasn't: My Chicago Cubs 2003 Replay Blog

11-17-2009, 09:23 PM	#1261
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Buyer beware, that is the type of illness that can rear its ugly head at any time.... wishing the Monster the best and hope he gets well so he can get whooped in the cage. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

11-16-2009, 10:48 PM	#1258
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Groundhog Day...

11-17-2009, 09:19 PM	#1260
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Looks like Brock went under the knife with a minor surgery and is already feeling better. Seems like he'll be on track to be back this year to fight the winner of the inevitable Cain/Carwin fight. If he's out a full year then he'll fight whoever wins that fight vs Big Nog I assume.

11-18-2009, 02:34 AM	#1262
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Wow. Randy vs Mark Coleman at 109. I actually love that fight as both guys still can go. That is also the targeted show for Anderson vs Vitor. Add in Hughes vs Renzo Gracie and Frank Trigg vs Matt Serra already on there, and you have one star studded, albeit old, show. Last edited by DeToxRox : 11-18-2009 at 02:36 AM.

11-18-2009, 07:29 AM	#1264
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	You got it with old. Man, really freakin' old. It really doesn't excite me all that much. Silva/Vitor could be interesting, but I don't really see much for Couture or Coleman to gain. For Randy, it would seem a win over Vera would have moved him further up the food chain than that, and Coleman is just never going to contend again, sort of like Wanderlei, he's just an old name that can sell tix, but in the end a win for either guy, just doesn't do much for the division. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

11-18-2009, 07:31 AM	#1265
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	how long has it been since Trigg fought and was smoked by Matt Hughes anyways? That's pretty much the last time he's been in a cage in an actual fight right? __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

11-18-2009, 11:32 AM	#1266
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Trigg has a couple of quality wins over Misaki and Mayhem since getting beat by Hughes the 2nd time, but those were both in rings and not cages. He is a solid 2nd tier fighter still, the fight between him and Serra is the only one of those three that sounds even mildly appealing or competitive. Couture vs. Coleman is absolutely terrible and I hope that doesn't happen. Couture is coming off a win over a legit 205'er, keep him moving up the chain or at least put him against a guy who has a fair amount to gain by beating him. This makes no sense to me. Hughes vs. Renzo is more interesting than the Royce matchup but not by much. I haven't seen Renzo fight in a long time, and while he is definitely more well rounded, he shouldn't be a problem for Hughes at all. These all sound pretty bad though, and none should above a card opener. Can't wait for Aldo and Brown tonight.

11-18-2009, 07:19 PM	#1269
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	If you're like me and never know what the fuck is going on in the WEC, here's a heads up that Brown vs. Aldo is live tonight, with the card starting in ~40 minutes.

11-18-2009, 08:36 PM	#1271
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	yeah yeah...good point. that's what i get for rushing a post at work __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

11-18-2009, 08:58 PM	#1272
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Dana said May 1st in Montreal will be Machida/Shogun II.

11-18-2009, 10:08 PM	#1274
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	What a fucking performance in the ME of WEC tonight. Just amazing.

11-18-2009, 10:10 PM	#1275
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Really nice finishing there. Total victory. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

11-18-2009, 10:35 PM	#1276
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Aldo is nuts. His combos are so fluid, hands, knees, super snappy kicks.

11-21-2009, 05:24 PM	#1277
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	Just ordered 106 to watch tonight...My 9 year old has been getting into watching it and asking about the moves and styles over the past year with me. He currently practices Capoeira and we found an MMA center near us I might get him into for the training so when he gets older if he wants to continue he can. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

11-21-2009, 08:44 PM	#1278
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Saunders is an asshole. I know we've debated punching after someone is out but that last punch he threw was not only after Davis was done but while the ref was between them stopping the fight.

11-21-2009, 09:15 PM	#1279
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	What was that shitty enterance music Saddolah entered to?

11-21-2009, 09:20 PM	#1281
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Baroni might want to stop trying to block those knees with his face.

11-21-2009, 09:48 PM	#1283
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	Little Nog showed his power right off the bat. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

11-21-2009, 10:37 PM	#1284
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Every fight aired so far has been exciting. Lots of good finishes, but Rumble Johnson vs Koscheck is about to go on, and I cannot fucking wait.

11-21-2009, 10:49 PM	#1285
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I have never seen Koscheck fight, why is he hated by the crowd?

11-21-2009, 10:49 PM	#1286
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	That could be a sucky way for this fight to end.

11-21-2009, 10:49 PM	#1287
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Damn it, I think Rumble just ended this fight early with that. Edit: Hmm, obviously an illegal shot, but doesn't look like it landed the way it originally looked. Almost would like to see Kos pull this off now. Last edited by Calis : 11-21-2009 at 10:54 PM.

11-21-2009, 10:52 PM	#1288
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	BS. That knee was all forearm. Yes he should be docked a point for the knee but that was a finger to the eye.

11-21-2009, 10:57 PM	#1291
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	And now we're even on the eye pokes.

11-21-2009, 10:58 PM	#1292
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	And Koscheck goes up on the eye pokes 2-1.

11-21-2009, 11:11 PM	#1294
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Nice sub for Koscheck but I wish we didn't have those stoppages. I'd rather see a rematch from tonight then Koscheck vs Hardy. I want Hardy vs GSP.

11-21-2009, 11:12 PM	#1295
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Most of the hatred comes from his time on TUF when he came across as a pretty stereotypical jock asshole. He has milked that ever since. Guy is a solid fighter though, and I still can't believe why Rumble was actually favored in that fight. To be honest though, what he said was pretty accurate and I'd rather see Koscheck vs. Hardy then Hardy vs. GSP, but you have to throw someone to the slaughter, so it might as well be Hardy. Last edited by Calis : 11-21-2009 at 11:13 PM.

11-21-2009, 11:33 PM	#1296
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Been a really solid night of fights considering it looked rather lackluster on paper. Forrest is impressing me here. Tito still has the elbows that he always has.

11-21-2009, 11:37 PM	#1297
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Dominant round by Griffin

11-21-2009, 11:39 PM	#1298
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I think this will go to Tito but it should probably be a split decision to Forrest. EDIT: Mid edit but it was a SD to Forrest. Last edited by DeToxRox : 11-21-2009 at 11:40 PM.

11-21-2009, 11:42 PM	#1299
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Good decision, was afraid that this would be another screwjob. Tito had nothing to offer in that last round. Good fight until that point.