2015 MLB thread - Page 26

JeeberD · 07-27-2015, 12:45 PM

Probably an older team whose window is closing, rather than a young team just entering that window.

MizzouRah · 07-27-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JeeberD

Probably an older team whose window is closing, rather than a young team just entering that window.

You might be right.. but Houston could use a SP like him for the next few years.

Chief Rum · 07-27-2015, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

You might be right.. but Houston could use a SP like him for the next few years.

Keuchel, McCullers, McHugh is a good, young base and they just added Kazmir. They have a lot of talent in their system, too. I suspect the Astros are comfortable with their rotation right now, and for the foreseeable future.

MizzouRah · 07-27-2015, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Keuchel, McCullers, McHugh is a good, young base and they just added Kazmir. They have a lot of talent in their system, too. I suspect the Astros are comfortable with their rotation right now, and for the foreseeable future.

What does adding Hamels do?

I'd like to see him go to Texas - or anywhere other than the Dodgers!

cartman · 07-27-2015, 02:28 PM

I think if Hamels is dealt to Texas, then Gallardo will be moved to the Dodgers.

BillJasper · 07-27-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

I think if Hamels is dealt to Texas, then Gallardo will be moved to the Dodgers.

So completely dooming the Dodgers chances?

I'm wondering where Mike Leake ends up...

Vince, Pt. II · 07-27-2015, 04:38 PM

Rumor has it the Giants are seriously interested in Hamels. Not sure they really have the horses to get the deal done (their farm system is deep, but doesn't have an impact name), but they're still working on it.

It also sounds like if they can't get an ace-type arm (Hamels, Price) that they probably won't make a move. Which makes sense, but is sort of atypical for the Giants.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-27-2015, 04:42 PM

Cueto's first start for the Royals will be on Friday.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-27-2015, 04:46 PM

dola

Looks like Royals may not be done with trades.

Royals pursuing Ben Zobrist - Royals Review

kingfc22 · 07-27-2015, 11:32 PM

Tulo to the Jays. Never thought he'd get out of Colorado.

Atocep · 07-27-2015, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Tulo to the Jays. Never thought he'd get out of Colorado.

Interested to see what combination of Pompey, Norris, and Hoffman they got.

Scoobz0202 · 07-27-2015, 11:43 PM

Are the Blue Jays going to convert him to a pitcher??

Atocep · 07-27-2015, 11:50 PM

Reyes and "minor league pieces" going to Colorado.

Johnny93g · 07-28-2015, 12:42 AM

Very excited to see Tulo coming to Toronto. Looks like Castro is going to the Rockies in addition to Reyes. He's a very young, but talented kid, whose got great stuff, throws really hard, but was rushed up to the show this year.

Doesn't effect pitching needs, but a chance to upgrade with a player like Tulo is an easy decision. Can still upgrade the pitching many many other ways. Donny and Tulo playing together now...WOW!!

stevew · 07-28-2015, 03:01 AM

I figured Alex was a sunk cost and might not even break camp, but he's having a helluva season. He won't win any awards, not will he deserve any respect, but IF he's doing this legit I tip my cap to him. Happy 40th, Alex

Mota · 07-28-2015, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny93g

Very excited to see Tulo coming to Toronto. Looks like Castro is going to the Rockies in addition to Reyes. He's a very young, but talented kid, whose got great stuff, throws really hard, but was rushed up to the show this year.

Doesn't effect pitching needs, but a chance to upgrade with a player like Tulo is an easy decision. Can still upgrade the pitching many many other ways. Donny and Tulo playing together now...WOW!!

I'm on the other side of the fence. They traded away two of their top 5 prospects (both pitchers) and got more offense. They are already leading the league in offense. Maybe they'll win a few extra games 11-9 instead of losing 9-8.

MikeVic · 07-28-2015, 08:00 AM

Yeah, not sure I like it unless there are more deals to come. They need pitching, especially if they trade major prospects.

Ramzavail · 07-28-2015, 08:26 AM

the defensive help at SS should help the pitching. I think its a steal and I wish the Mets had the stones to do something like that.

Johnny93g · 07-28-2015, 08:55 AM

I'm not sure why trading for an ELITE player has anything to do with wether they acquire a pitcher at a later date. The cupboard aint bare.

Players like Tulo do not get traded very often, and don't sign in Toronto. It's an opportunity to get an ELITE position player, much in the same way Josh Donaldson was acquired.

This was a opportunity to get better today, and tomorrow.

I don't believe they are done. Trading Jeff Hoffman stings, but at least he doesn't go for a rental.

molson · 07-28-2015, 09:36 AM

Does a great hitter help a weak hitting/great pitching team more than a great hitting/weak pitching team? I would think the impact would be the same, or would depend only on the difference in production at the position being upgraded.

panerd · 07-28-2015, 10:27 AM

Isn't he another in a long line of Coors Field superstars? Dont get me wrong his away statistics are solid (.817 OPS) but not sure they are worth the haul the Blue Jays gave up.

rowech · 07-28-2015, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by panerd

Isn't he another in a long line of Coors Field superstars? Dont get me wrong his away statistics are solid (.817 OPS) but not sure they are worth the haul the Blue Jays gave up.

I agree. His numbers are down this year and he hasn't been hurt yet this year either.

Arles · 07-28-2015, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd

Isn't he another in a long line of Coors Field superstars? Dont get me wrong his away statistics are solid (.817 OPS) but not sure they are worth the haul the Blue Jays gave up.

They said the same about Holliday and he did pretty well in St. Louis. In the last 3 seasons, Tulu's had these splits (Home/Away):1.046/.848. But, Like Holliday, a lot of that is Dodger Stadium (.470 OPS) and Petco (.762). I think his numbers will be fine in Toronto. My bigger concern is all the wear on his knees from that turf there.

Logan · 07-28-2015, 11:13 AM

I think the injury risk is big, and why I was against the Mets pursuing him especially with what it would have cost. And that's because I know that if he went to shit, the franchise would be screwed for a long time with this ownership group.

That being said, getting out from Reyes' contract is huge considering his declining skills. I hadn't realized there was such discussion on moving him to the OF because of his defense but the numbers are pretty rough.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-28-2015, 11:33 AM

How quickly things change. There was good races in all three AL divisions at the break. Now it's the Yankees, Royals, Angels, Astros.........and everyone else.

cartman · 07-28-2015, 11:36 AM

How quickly things change. I seem to remember a certain poster obsessed over the AL wild card race last season. I guess now the wild card doesn't matter.

BillJasper · 07-28-2015, 11:41 AM

Wait, the Rockies are eating $6 of Tulowitzki’s contact? Can this possibly be true? | HardballTalk

$6.

Grover · 07-28-2015, 11:46 AM

So I heard on the radio this morning that Wade Boggs was the ONLY player in the 20th century to record 7 straight 200+ hit seasons.

That makes Ichiro the only player in MLB history with 10 straight 200+ hit seasons.

cartman · 07-28-2015, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BillJasper

Wait, the Rockies are eating $6 of Tulowitzki’s contact? Can this possibly be true? | HardballTalk

$6.

Is that because of FanDuel?

Logan · 07-28-2015, 01:30 PM

Zobrist to KC.

Grover · 07-28-2015, 02:03 PM

Disappointed to see Manaea go, but if it results in a World Series it will be more than worth it.

I am still not used to seeing the club being so aggressive near the deadline. It's a nice change.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-28-2015, 02:14 PM

I'm not a huge fan of the Zobrist trade. We've got the division race in a great spot, so what you're really doing is getting a player that you believe can help you in the postseason. Makes perfect sense with Cueto. Not so sure about Zobrist given his previous postseason stats.

Grover · 07-28-2015, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I'm not a huge fan of the Zobrist trade. We've got the division race in a great spot, so what you're really doing is getting a player that you believe can help you in the postseason. Makes perfect sense with Cueto. Not so sure about Zobrist given his previous postseason stats.

Cueto's postseason statistics aren't exactly eye-popping either.

I get the argument you're trying to make, but you picked a poor comparison for postseason success.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-28-2015, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Grover

Cueto's postseason statistics aren't exactly eye-popping either.

I get the argument you're trying to make, but you picked a poor comparison for postseason success.

Fair enough. Probably a better way of putting it is that Cueto was a clear need with no other options. I think we'd be fine without Zobrist. We've got options there.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-28-2015, 03:09 PM

dola

Rumors on local radio that the Royals are still working on yet another trade. Not sure what else they have to trade that wouldn't hurt.

Grover · 07-28-2015, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Fair enough. Probably a better way of putting it is that Cueto was a clear need with no other options. I think we'd be fine without Zobrist. We've got options there.

I agree with this.

Granted, Cueto had ONE bad appearances in the NLCS that heavily skews his numbers, but we need a front end rotation guy. I don't know if we'll get him longterm, think he wants too much money, but winning a WS would be worth the rental.

Atocep · 07-28-2015, 05:27 PM

Jenrry Mejia is a fucking idiot.

SackAttack · 07-28-2015, 05:29 PM

LOLOLMets

BillJasper · 07-28-2015, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

Jenrry Mejia is a fucking idiot.

+1

tucker rocky · 07-28-2015, 06:06 PM

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/139231...athan-papelbon

tucker rocky · 07-28-2015, 06:11 PM

Angels Acquire David Murphy from Indians

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/0...e-indians.html

Angels Acquire David DeJesus from Rays

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/0...d-dejesus.html

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-28-2015, 06:57 PM

Looks good in blue!

panerd · 07-28-2015, 10:00 PM

Reds fans:

Does it bother you that Mike Leake has decided in the last month or so to start pitching well to sell himself to other teams?

rowech · 07-28-2015, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by panerd

Reds fans:

Does it bother you that Mike Leake has decided in the last month or so to start pitching well to sell himself to other teams?

No data to back this but he always feels to me to be a super streaky pitcher. Might just be good timing for a nice streak to get better return.

BillJasper · 07-28-2015, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd

Reds fans:

Does it bother you that Mike Leake has decided in the last month or so to start pitching well to sell himself to other teams?

No. Should get more back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowech

No data to back this but he always feels to me to be a super streaky pitcher. Might just be good timing for a nice streak to get better return.

He has always been streaky.

JeeberD · 07-29-2015, 09:00 AM

Tuves!

JeeberD · 07-29-2015, 10:08 AM

Delayed dola -

It sounds like MizzouRah was more on the right page than me and the Astros are all-in on a Hamels offer. Peter Gammons doesn't seem to think he'll OK the trade, though...

Arles · 07-29-2015, 10:39 AM

Looks like Latos finally found a taker. Depending on the prospects of course, but I think both are solid pickups for LA:

Source: Latos, Morse to Dodgers for prospects. At least one competitive balance pick also to Dodgers. W/ Latos off board Haren still in play
— Gordon Wittenmyer (@GDubCub) July 29, 2015

cartman · 07-29-2015, 10:44 AM

What a bizarre game last night between the Rangers and Yankees. Started off strange when the Yankees leadoff hitter reached base on catcher's interference. The Rangers scored 5 runs in the bottom of the first, then the Yankees scored 11 in the top of the second, and 10 more runs unanswered.

cartman · 07-29-2015, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince, Pt. II

So Eric Byrnes and the Pat Tillman Foundation are running a charitable event at the end of July where a pair of minor league games will have balls and strikes called by a robot umpire.

The San Rafael Pacifics will be using a Fremont based company's video system (Pitch F/X) to call balls and strikes, and Eric Byrnes will relay the calls to the players and fans.

It happened last night.

For the first time, sensors and a computer play umpire in a pro baseball game | Ars Technica

07-27-2015, 12:45 PM	#1251
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Probably an older team whose window is closing, rather than a young team just entering that window. __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

07-27-2015, 02:28 PM	#1255
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I think if Hamels is dealt to Texas, then Gallardo will be moved to the Dodgers. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

07-27-2015, 11:32 PM	#1260
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Tulo to the Jays. Never thought he'd get out of Colorado. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-28-2015, 12:42 AM	#1264
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	Very excited to see Tulo coming to Toronto. Looks like Castro is going to the Rockies in addition to Reyes. He's a very young, but talented kid, whose got great stuff, throws really hard, but was rushed up to the show this year. Doesn't effect pitching needs, but a chance to upgrade with a player like Tulo is an easy decision. Can still upgrade the pitching many many other ways. Donny and Tulo playing together now...WOW!! __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML Last edited by Johnny93g : 07-28-2015 at 12:42 AM.

07-28-2015, 08:55 AM	#1269
Johnny93g College Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto	I'm not sure why trading for an ELITE player has anything to do with wether they acquire a pitcher at a later date. The cupboard aint bare. Players like Tulo do not get traded very often, and don't sign in Toronto. It's an opportunity to get an ELITE position player, much in the same way Josh Donaldson was acquired. This was a opportunity to get better today, and tomorrow. I don't believe they are done. Trading Jeff Hoffman stings, but at least he doesn't go for a rental. __________________ FOOL- Toronto Marlboros FOOL Classic Champions 2073, 2078, 2079, 2114, 2116, 2117, 2129, 2152, 2155, 2169, 2192 46 35 FOOL H- New York Giants World Champions 1914, 1928 BBCF: Notre Dame TML

07-27-2015, 04:38 PM	#1257
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Rumor has it the Giants are seriously interested in Hamels. Not sure they really have the horses to get the deal done (their farm system is deep, but doesn't have an impact name), but they're still working on it. It also sounds like if they can't get an ace-type arm (Hamels, Price) that they probably won't make a move. Which makes sense, but is sort of atypical for the Giants.

07-27-2015, 04:42 PM	#1258
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Cueto's first start for the Royals will be on Friday.

07-27-2015, 04:46 PM	#1259
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	dola Looks like Royals may not be done with trades. Royals pursuing Ben Zobrist - Royals Review

07-27-2015, 11:43 PM	#1262
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Are the Blue Jays going to convert him to a pitcher??

07-27-2015, 11:50 PM	#1263
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Reyes and "minor league pieces" going to Colorado.

07-28-2015, 03:01 AM	#1265
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I figured Alex was a sunk cost and might not even break camp, but he's having a helluva season. He won't win any awards, not will he deserve any respect, but IF he's doing this legit I tip my cap to him. Happy 40th, Alex

07-28-2015, 08:00 AM	#1267
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	Yeah, not sure I like it unless there are more deals to come. They need pitching, especially if they trade major prospects.

07-28-2015, 08:26 AM	#1268
Ramzavail College Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Strong Island, NY	the defensive help at SS should help the pitching. I think its a steal and I wish the Mets had the stones to do something like that.

07-28-2015, 09:36 AM	#1270
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Does a great hitter help a weak hitting/great pitching team more than a great hitting/weak pitching team? I would think the impact would be the same, or would depend only on the difference in production at the position being upgraded.

07-28-2015, 10:27 AM	#1271
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	Isn't he another in a long line of Coors Field superstars? Dont get me wrong his away statistics are solid (.817 OPS) but not sure they are worth the haul the Blue Jays gave up.

07-28-2015, 11:13 AM	#1274
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I think the injury risk is big, and why I was against the Mets pursuing him especially with what it would have cost. And that's because I know that if he went to shit, the franchise would be screwed for a long time with this ownership group. That being said, getting out from Reyes' contract is huge considering his declining skills. I hadn't realized there was such discussion on moving him to the OF because of his defense but the numbers are pretty rough. Last edited by Logan : 07-28-2015 at 11:15 AM.

07-28-2015, 11:33 AM	#1275
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	How quickly things change. There was good races in all three AL divisions at the break. Now it's the Yankees, Royals, Angels, Astros.........and everyone else.

07-28-2015, 11:36 AM	#1276
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	How quickly things change. I seem to remember a certain poster obsessed over the AL wild card race last season. I guess now the wild card doesn't matter. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

07-28-2015, 11:41 AM	#1277
BillJasper Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Kentucky	Wait, the Rockies are eating $6 of Tulowitzki’s contact? Can this possibly be true? \| HardballTalk $6. __________________ The Confederacy lost, it is time to dismantle it.

07-28-2015, 11:46 AM	#1278
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	So I heard on the radio this morning that Wade Boggs was the ONLY player in the 20th century to record 7 straight 200+ hit seasons. That makes Ichiro the only player in MLB history with 10 straight 200+ hit seasons. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

07-28-2015, 01:30 PM	#1280
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	Zobrist to KC.

07-28-2015, 02:03 PM	#1281
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	Disappointed to see Manaea go, but if it results in a World Series it will be more than worth it. I am still not used to seeing the club being so aggressive near the deadline. It's a nice change. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

07-28-2015, 02:14 PM	#1282
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	I'm not a huge fan of the Zobrist trade. We've got the division race in a great spot, so what you're really doing is getting a player that you believe can help you in the postseason. Makes perfect sense with Cueto. Not so sure about Zobrist given his previous postseason stats.

07-28-2015, 03:09 PM	#1285
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	dola Rumors on local radio that the Royals are still working on yet another trade. Not sure what else they have to trade that wouldn't hurt.

07-28-2015, 05:27 PM	#1287
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Jenrry Mejia is a fucking idiot.

07-28-2015, 05:29 PM	#1288
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	LOLOLMets

07-28-2015, 06:06 PM	#1290
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Papelbon to Nationals http://m.mlb.com/news/article/139231...athan-papelbon

07-28-2015, 06:11 PM	#1291
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Angels Acquire David Murphy from Indians http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/0...e-indians.html Angels Acquire David DeJesus from Rays http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/0...d-dejesus.html

07-28-2015, 06:57 PM	#1292
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Looks good in blue!

07-28-2015, 10:00 PM	#1293
panerd Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis	Reds fans: Does it bother you that Mike Leake has decided in the last month or so to start pitching well to sell himself to other teams?

07-29-2015, 09:00 AM	#1296
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Tuves! __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

07-29-2015, 10:08 AM	#1297
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Delayed dola - It sounds like MizzouRah was more on the right page than me and the Astros are all-in on a Hamels offer. Peter Gammons doesn't seem to think he'll OK the trade, though... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

07-29-2015, 10:39 AM	#1298
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Looks like Latos finally found a taker. Depending on the prospects of course, but I think both are solid pickups for LA: Source: Latos, Morse to Dodgers for prospects. At least one competitive balance pick also to Dodgers. W/ Latos off board Haren still in play — Gordon Wittenmyer (@GDubCub) July 29, 2015 __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

07-29-2015, 10:44 AM	#1299
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	What a bizarre game last night between the Rangers and Yankees. Started off strange when the Yankees leadoff hitter reached base on catcher's interference. The Rangers scored 5 runs in the bottom of the first, then the Yankees scored 11 in the top of the second, and 10 more runs unanswered. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

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