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Old 06-03-2008, 10:57 AM   #1251
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I was hoping for someone not on the chopping block to respond to hoops, but thanks Heinz.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:57 AM   #1252
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At this point I'm not all that worried about my survival - I think good guys are winning this game with or without me. I would like the individual win, but I don't see a reason to move a vote between one guy I lean towards distrust over to a guy I consider neutral in my reads.

The movement of another uncleared guy from candidate 1 to candidate 2 makes me think there is a decent chance we have either two villagers or two wolves in the mix. In which case it wouldn't matter what I do here.


As much as I don;t have a real bad feeling about you right now hoops, this post bothers the shit outta me for some reason. reading this feels like that scene in the mystery movie when they finally give away the bad guy. its creepy.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:57 AM   #1253
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I see my name mentioned a lot in th eposts but not enough time to reply to them now. Had a brief couple minutes to look at the thread but have to go to another office shortly.

If I am still alive when I get back online I will try to give some defense to myself (not really sure what I need defended for accept my unvote of PB on day 1, though that was before the real mess started).

I will defend one thing that stood out, which is my playing style I guess. I was called out, again by heiz, for ruffling feathers early with some comments about a few players which I made in jest. I only mention 4 names with serious implication and the other posts were made jokingly (you need to shake the tree a little to see what falls out) but I never said that I truly suspect the people in those posts at that time. In this he keeps mentioning my calling out oliegirl, which I never did. I only made the joke vote on her for the Sex in the City thing but never intended on that vote remaining on her. She had no action on her at that time and was not in any danger (if that were the case I would not have made that vote).


Oh, one other thing. Not setting up for any kind of reveal. One thing that has been a pattern, other than always being on opposite sides as PB, is that I have either been a vanilla villager or the brutal. And neither would lend themselves to a reveal.


Damn, getting called and have to go. Will be back later (not sure how later).

FTR, the olie one I get, but not all of the people that you named that weren't in the 4 of your main post were necessarily made in jest. Or at least not as overtly as maybe you meant them to be.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:57 AM   #1254
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I was hoping for someone not on the chopping block to respond to hoops, but thanks Heinz.

Just tryin' to help!
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:57 AM   #1255
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We could let the Duke do his Duke thing, and cement him as trusted.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:57 AM   #1256
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:57 AM   #1257
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we have more cleared villager than wolves left, even by the most pessimistic estimates, right? If so, we keep voting uncleared and win a prolonged game so long as we don't give them unnecessary villagers along the way. Like the bodyguard, for example.

for nighttime, we still have the bodyguard around to potentially avert a kill. We've seen a LOLcat avoid a night kill. It isn't 100% that the dogs get kitties at night.

We go into tomorrow with one more cleared person if the BG locks up Olie today. Even if we are down another kitty, we are up in terms of the ratio of known vs unknown. That isn't the case if we miss today and the dogs get a lynch tonight.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:57 AM   #1258
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The I DO, I DO thing set off an alarm in my head. Plus going to have to vote with my wife after thinking about it.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:57 AM   #1259
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I'm going to go smoke, but I will NOT let there be a tie...




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Old 06-03-2008, 10:58 AM   #1260
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The I DO, I DO thing set off an alarm in my head. Plus going to have to vote with my wife after thinking about it.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:58 AM   #1261
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Bah, poor choices Pass and SL. Have fun dodging bullets tomorrow Seolian.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:58 AM   #1262
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Well then. Two last second movers.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:59 AM   #1263
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:59 AM   #1264
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I'm going to go smoke, but I will NOT let there be a tie...




...I kid! I kid!

I thought about saying that ten minutes ago!
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:59 AM   #1265
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We could let the Duke do his Duke thing, and cement him as trusted.

Why do you think I'm grilling hoops on the positives of a no lynch?

Looks like there have just been some switches.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:00 AM   #1266
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interesting indeed.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:00 AM   #1267
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:00 AM   #1268
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Do it Jackal. This isn't a villager-beneficial result
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:00 AM   #1269
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:00 AM   #1270
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As much as I don;t have a real bad feeling about you right now hoops, this post bothers the shit outta me for some reason. reading this feels like that scene in the mystery movie when they finally give away the bad guy. its creepy.

Then ask Olie to scan me tonight. She is BG protected. The cunning wolf is dead. If I'm a dog I'll show as one, right?

I'm OK being uncleared for as long as it is good for the villagers, and I get being questioned along the way. But I think I'm taking a pretty logical approach to the vote here. I think I normally play for the team win over the individual win. If there are flaws with the approach I'm outlining then let's talk about them rather than my creepiness.

I hear enough of that from my neighbors, co-workers, etc
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:00 AM   #1271
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Sorry Heinz. Been thinking about it hard. Hope you're a dog.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:00 AM   #1272
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FTR I'm not a fan of no lynch, I just think Heinze is a kitty
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:01 AM   #1273
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That SL vote seems really staged. If Heinz is based, you have to think that was a set-up for SL to be the one to off him, since they had to know I was going to change my vote.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:01 AM   #1274
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Medium version:

we have more cleared villager than wolves left, even by the most pessimistic estimates, right? If so, we keep voting uncleared and win a prolonged game so long as we don't give them unnecessary villagers along the way. Like the bodyguard, for example.

for nighttime, we still have the bodyguard around to potentially avert a kill. We've seen a LOLcat avoid a night kill. It isn't 100% that the dogs get kitties at night.

We go into tomorrow with one more cleared person if the BG locks up Olie today. Even if we are down another kitty, we are up in terms of the ratio of known vs unknown. That isn't the case if we miss today and the dogs get a lynch tonight.

My line of thinking. Even if we missed today, we clear 2 people from the unknown list, assuming Olie survives the night. That gives us a MUCH better pool to look at tomorrow than a no lynch today.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:01 AM   #1275
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:01 AM   #1276
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Sorry Heinz. Been thinking about it hard. Hope you're a dog.

'fraid not amigo.

Off to find my lolcat.

Anyone have any images of a cat hanging from the rafters?
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:01 AM   #1277
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Then ask Olie to scan me tonight. She is BG protected. The cunning wolf is dead. If I'm a dog I'll show as one, right?

I'm OK being uncleared for as long as it is good for the villagers, and I get being questioned along the way. But I think I'm taking a pretty logical approach to the vote here. I think I normally play for the team win over the individual win. If there are flaws with the approach I'm outlining then let's talk about them rather than my creepiness.

I hear enough of that from my neighbors, co-workers, etc

I'd rather you don't scan hoops, olie -- I trust him, based on PB's Day 1 late vote to try to lynch him.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:02 AM   #1278
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I think Pass is a dog. I realize he voted for PB late but that could be an attempt to gain early trust and the chiwawa isn't all that valuable to the dogs.

If Heinze comes up kitty I think Olie needs to scan one of the late switchers
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:02 AM   #1279
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Scan SL, pretty please. I'd rather not waste my day tomorrow gunning after him if I don't have to.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:02 AM   #1280
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That SL vote seems really staged. If Heinz is based, you have to think that was a set-up for SL to be the one to off him, since they had to know I was going to change my vote.

If Heinz is based? I think I meant bad.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:03 AM   #1281
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I think Pass is a dog. I realize he voted for PB late but that could be an attempt to gain early trust and the chiwawa isn't all that valuable to the dogs.

If Heinze comes up kitty I think Olie needs to scan one of the late switchers

Scanning me is fine, too, if people think it's necessary.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:04 AM   #1282
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Pass - why did they "have to know" you were going to switch?
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:04 AM   #1283
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That SL vote seems really staged. If Heinz is based, you have to think that was a set-up for SL to be the one to off him, since they had to know I was going to change my vote.

I agree on the vote over to KWhit, but the Heinz vote back (when he may or may not have known of your switch) just confuses me.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:04 AM   #1284
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ok this sucks, I can no longer get my pics to post!



after a ton of discussion the kitteh herd decides jheinze is a dog..


you drag him off to the lake, and toss him in, he sinks like cat in the water.

iimagine a pic of a kitty with a nintendo controller sayin I no can haz cheezburger?

jehineze is dead, he was a lolcat



night actions due by 1.



One comment, you all are assuming alot.... never assume!
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:05 AM   #1285
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Hi Mccollins! I'm back!
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:05 AM   #1286
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:06 AM   #1287
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I should've duked it to KWhit. Meh.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:07 AM   #1288
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Pass - why did they "have to know" you were going to switch?

This whole game, I've been placing my vote on one person, and switching it near the end -- the only exception was Day 2, where I decided I might as well switch to my top suspect once it became obvious he was getting lynched and there was no saving him. Also, I spent all of Day 3 grilling jeheinz, with my vote on someone else -- basically the same philosophy as I had Day 1.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:07 AM   #1289
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I think Pass is a dog. I realize he voted for PB late but that could be an attempt to gain early trust and the chiwawa isn't all that valuable to the dogs.

If Heinze comes up kitty I think Olie needs to scan one of the late switchers

The cunning wolf isn't valuable? Dude - I think that is the most valuable of the dog roles. Brutal still gets his kill on the way out, random dogs have zero protection from scans. If I was a wolf I would protect that dog at all costs.

If you make the argument that the wolves knew tie conditions (I consider it a weak argument) then that is at least rational. But the cunning wolf being weak makes zero sense.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:08 AM   #1290
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hmm.

so if heinze is a lolcat then what the hell happened the other night...?
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:08 AM   #1291
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I'm thinking clap wouldn't make two lolcats that couldn't be night killed. Maybe Heinz had some sort of different power, like a conversion utility or something?
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:10 AM   #1292
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The cunning wolf isn't valuable? Dude - I think that is the most valuable of the dog roles. Brutal still gets his kill on the way out, random dogs have zero protection from scans. If I was a wolf I would protect that dog at all costs.

If you make the argument that the wolves knew tie conditions (I consider it a weak argument) then that is at least rational. But the cunning wolf being weak makes zero sense.

I was looking at it from the angel of performing night kills.

The way I see it is he can't do kills and doesn't count towards their victory condition
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:11 AM   #1293
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Lolcats can be lynched, but from what I know we only find out our role when we're nightkilled otherwise Heinze would have revealed.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:11 AM   #1294
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:11 AM   #1295
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The Lolcat is a wildcard, you know nothing of them, their powers. The lolcat might not even know…

Okay, so that them tells me there CAN be more than one.

Bye mccollins, I'll leave you alone again!
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:11 AM   #1296
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The LOLCAT- U can haz cheezburger. (yes that’s all you get)



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the rules say THE LOLCAT.

Not Lolcats....
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:12 AM   #1297
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I'm thinking clap wouldn't make two lolcats that couldn't be night killed. Maybe Heinz had some sort of different power, like a conversion utility or something?

I have multiple powers that I have chosen not to disclose yet. I'm hoping to have something substantive after the next deadline.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:13 AM   #1298
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All I have to say is this game is crazy.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:13 AM   #1299
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Crap!

Alright...who to scan??? Hoops? Pass? SeaLion? KWhit?

Help!!!!!!
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:13 AM   #1300
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Anyway.

Olie? I reiterate my request again. Scan SeaLion.
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