Werewolf CXXVII -- The Godfather, VILLAGERS WIN - Page 26

JAG · 03-17-2011, 06:13 PM

So just the Connie scan you missed, 7 villagers. That probably would've been a demoralizing day.

Autumn · 03-17-2011, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Jackal

Hoops ran a marvel game where we all created new forum accounts, but I doubt the mods want us to do too many/any more of those.

Hoops and I talked about getting the mods to let us use those accounts again, perhaps. I think it would be fun.

Autumn · 03-17-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

IN fact he would kill me if I tried it.

That's the main thing that convinced me not to try to kill again. After Lathum, the captain, and Carlo went down, it was a 50-50 chance that even if I picked a wolf, that I would die. WHen we had ZERO wolves and no leads, that was a chance I was totally willing to take because it would have at least told us possibly who Captain and Vito were if I went down.

Well two things wrong here, I think. One is, I don't think you die any longer if you kill EF. The rules say that once McCluskey dies you're not in danger, and I think McCluskey died.

Second, I doubt we would have found out who Captain or Vito were if you had tried to kill them. You would have ended up dead in the morning and no one would know who you had tried to hit. That's why I think it was a crazy chance you took on Lathum.

CrimsonFox · 03-17-2011, 06:44 PM

Well with the Captain at least I would have hit paydirt. A wolf for a vilalger was acceptable to me. Especially since I was a big candidate for getting lynched.

Crazy? Crazy like a fox...

Or maybe just smart.

JAG · 03-17-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Well two things wrong here, I think. One is, I don't think you die any longer if you kill EF. The rules say that once McCluskey dies you're not in danger, and I think McCluskey died.

Second, I doubt we would have found out who Captain or Vito were if you had tried to kill them. You would have ended up dead in the morning and no one would know who you had tried to hit. That's why I think it was a crazy chance you took on Lathum.

Actually, I think you're mixing that up with Michael Corleone's hit (ooh, another villager kill I missed above), who would've been out of the game if Sollozzo or the Captain wasn't the kill target unless the Captain was already out of the game, in which case that risk was gone. I do agree with your other comment though.

Autumn · 03-17-2011, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Actually, I think you're mixing that up with Michael Corleone's hit (ooh, another villager kill I missed above), who would've been out of the game if Sollozzo or the Captain wasn't the kill target unless the Captain was already out of the game, in which case that risk was gone. I do agree with your other comment though.

Oh yeah, you're right. I did mix those up I guess.

CrimsonFox · 03-17-2011, 06:53 PM

I did too LOL!

CrimsonFox · 03-17-2011, 06:54 PM

JAG you played an awesome game btw. Your analysis was great and helped me work out my own doubts. Really glad you and tyke were the "better men" and stepped down off of me. I found when I stepped off of tyke and revealed the gun, the whole game kind of opened up for me.

mckerney · 03-17-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Hoops and I talked about getting the mods to let us use those accounts again, perhaps. I think it would be fun.

That would be awesome.

JAG · 03-17-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

JAG you played an awesome game btw. Your analysis was great and helped me work out my own doubts. Really glad you and tyke were the "better men" and stepped down off of me. I found when I stepped off of tyke and revealed the gun, the whole game kind of opened up for me.

Thanks CF. I'm a little more critical of my game because the only wolf I nailed was Jeff and had Lathum not gone down, I don't know that I would've pursued that. In the end, I think the best I did was using the gun on Jeff, fighting for mckerney not to be a lynch target after his reveal, and backing off you after your gun reveal, though I only went Jeff there because I thought there was only a low chance sal would be a wolf knowing he was neutral. I'm impressed you blocked a kill on me as I didn't think I was a likely target.

CrimsonFox · 03-17-2011, 07:17 PM

At first I protected Narcizo that day as he sounded like he was doing the most good vilalger analysis, then when you backup off on me when you didn't have to, I knew you had to be a villager and thus gave the gun to you. Then when you had the gun/canoli idea, I switched from protecting Narcizo to protecting you as you were the only 100% sure thing for me.

And even though you kept going back to Narcizo and tyketime, I think it was a team effort totally. All of us going with our acute hunches and taking chances that paid off that did it.

CrimsonFox · 03-17-2011, 07:17 PM

100% to me and I figured probably to the wolves as well. And since they always kill off trusted villagers...

EagleFan · 03-17-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Thanks CF. I'm a little more critical of my game because the only wolf I nailed was Jeff and had Lathum not gone down, I don't know that I would've pursued that. In the end, I think the best I did was using the gun on Jeff, fighting for mckerney not to be a lynch target after his reveal, and backing off you after your gun reveal, though I only went Jeff there because I thought there was only a low chance sal would be a wolf knowing he was neutral. I'm impressed you blocked a kill on me as I didn't think I was a likely target.

But I thought I nailed jeff, then I gave you darth... hmm, something doesn't seem right there.

As for Martin, come on that should have been obvious. Who ever heard of a goodfella with a british accent? "If you cross me old chap you'll be swimming with the fish and chips..."

Are you sure that you are making the right decision today?

mckerney · 03-17-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Thanks CF. I'm a little more critical of my game because the only wolf I nailed was Jeff and had Lathum not gone down, I don't know that I would've pursued that. In the end, I think the best I did was using the gun on Jeff, fighting for mckerney not to be a lynch target after his reveal, and backing off you after your gun reveal, though I only went Jeff there because I thought there was only a low chance sal would be a wolf knowing he was neutral. I'm impressed you blocked a kill on me as I didn't think I was a likely target.

I'm guessing that was part revenge, part hoping the only reason you were sure enough to kill Jeff is because you were seer.

mckerney · 03-17-2011, 07:23 PM

And also because the kill left you as q cleared villager.

Autumn · 03-17-2011, 09:06 PM

Come on now, Pass.

EagleFan · 03-18-2011, 12:14 AM

I probably will be too busy to check in much tomorrow. I am really expecting a close vote too.

Do you just want to be in another werewolf game or do you want to be in THE game. Lynch someone else, CF kills bhlloy tonight and we go from there. Why think small, think big. Memories are what make life fun why not create a werewolf memory?

For those of you that watch Survivor I'll ask this. Would anyone remember Francesqua

if it wasn't for Phillip? Why have the game end in the same old boring way?

CrimsonFox · 03-18-2011, 03:25 AM

"Hey! Remember that one Werewolf game where EF went mad and had to be committed?"
"Yeah I remember that one. That was awesome!"
"The guys in the white suits came and everything!"

JAG · 03-18-2011, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

"Hey! Remember that one Werewolf game where EF went mad and had to be committed?"
"Yeah I remember that one. That was awesome!"
"The guys in the white suits came and everything!"

This reminds me of his performance in the 24 game when he used similar reasoning to try and get the group to lynch Jack Bauer.

CrimsonFox · 03-18-2011, 04:12 AM

Now that I approve of.

"We gotta stop the bomb!"
"No, Jack, you ain't gonna stop nothin'!" *BLAM*

CrimsonFox · 03-18-2011, 04:13 AM

Wow 3 guests! Hi guests! Come on it! The water's fine.

CrimsonFox · 03-18-2011, 04:13 AM

IN, not it.

tyketime · 03-18-2011, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

JAG you played an awesome game btw. Your analysis was great and helped me work out my own doubts. Really glad you and tyke were the "better men" and stepped down off of me. I found when I stepped off of tyke and revealed the gun, the whole game kind of opened up for me.

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Originally Posted by tyketime

OK. Since I'm the one accused of starting this, I'll put myself in jeopardy for the sake of the argument:

UNVOTE CRIMSON FOX

Now by no means does this indicate I don't think you are acting very defensive. But before the vote gets completely out of reach and just a race between the two of us, let's have some conversation about other mauboy1 voters... or the other non-voters.

Anyone...???

Yeah, as I've looked back over the earlier sequence, I actually don't recall what it was that made me unvote you, CF. I really thought your reaction at the time was very overblown. Perhaps that was a signal you were sending, but since I'm rather new to this... I didn't get it. And for sure I thought this unvote was going to backfire on me. This "strategy" clearly put me right back in the spotlight. I'm sure I was going to put my vote back on you fairly quickly. But as our exchange went on, and your responses were much calmer, I did not get the sense I was being taken. And so the thought that you might be a villager became clearer in my mind. Phew... what a disaster it would have been otherwise...

tyketime · 03-18-2011, 07:02 AM

I haven't looked at yesterday's frantic last hour again, but I gotta tell you - I don't know what in the hell happened. That was the first time the entire game that I felt completely lost and out of place. I'm sure there were all types of signals I was missing. But constantly hitting refresh, trying to keep up with the winds of change, and a poor note-taking system I currently have didn't help me keep up with the veterans.

Passacaglia · 03-18-2011, 08:56 AM

Anyone have a vote count?

Passacaglia · 03-18-2011, 08:56 AM

The Family succeeds in taking out the head of another rival Family. EagleFan was Phillip Tattaglia and a traitor!

Passacaglia · 03-18-2011, 08:58 AM

Day 6 begins!

mckerney · 03-18-2011, 09:01 AM

Day 6?

Passacaglia · 03-18-2011, 09:01 AM

I think so, or is my count wrong?

mckerney · 03-18-2011, 09:02 AM

Just surprised, I was expecting we'd had them all. Now I'm not quite sure where to go today...

mckerney · 03-18-2011, 09:06 AM

Vote Autumn
Vote Nightfall

mckerney · 03-18-2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

The Family succeeds in taking out the head of another rival Family. EagleFan was Phillip Tattaglia and a traitor!

If EF is Tattaglia shouldn't one of us be dead?

tyketime · 03-18-2011, 09:09 AM

Veal. I'm on my phone. Looks like Autumn lied. And "The Turk" is still alive, right?

Autumn · 03-18-2011, 09:09 AM

Maybe you already are, Mckerney ;-)

Passacaglia · 03-18-2011, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

If EF is Tattaglia shouldn't one of us be dead?

Whoops! Thanks!

Passacaglia · 03-18-2011, 09:11 AM

Phillip Tattaglia takes out a good guy in retaliation, and it's mckerney. mckerney was Appolonia and a good guy!

(it was random, honest!)

mckerney · 03-18-2011, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

I don't have time to post much, I've tried to read in a hurry. It seems the reveals are coming out so I'll reveal that I'm Phillip Tattaglia, so a vote here is a bad idea for two reasons. I'm not sure who's left who hasn't revealed, but clearly it's time to just put the cards on the table and find the last two.

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

The Family succeeds in taking out the head of another rival Family. EagleFan was Phillip Tattaglia and a traitor!

For anyone just checking in that hasn't voted Autumn yet.

mckerney · 03-18-2011, 09:12 AM

Gah! Good luck good guys today.

tyketime · 03-18-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tyketime

Veal.

Oh no... dreaded autocorrect has struck again. lol
Veal = well

Autumn · 03-18-2011, 09:14 AM

I am strong with the Force, McKerney. Oops, wrong game.

mckerney · 03-18-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

I am strong with the Force, McKerney. Oops, wrong game.

Just shows me to never make the mistake of reminding the GM they need to kill someone again.

Autumn · 03-18-2011, 09:17 AM

I guess Luca can guard the same person twice in a row. Another bad rules read by me.

Oh well, nice game guys. Lynch me and find out how many more you've got to find.

tyketime · 03-18-2011, 09:19 AM

Vote Autumn
Vote Nightfall

Autumn · 03-18-2011, 09:21 AM

VOTE CRIMSON FOX
VOTE NIGHTFALL

The Jackal · 03-18-2011, 09:30 AM

VOTE AUTUMN
VOTE NIGHTFALL

JAG · 03-18-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JAG

That was why I voted Autumn actually. That would be the role I would expect a wolf to reveal as since a villager that comes forward to challenge it gives the wolves a bonus kill. But I agree, it looks like we've entered reveal-land and there's basically almost nowhere left to hide.

Right idea, wrong conclusion. I do feel a little better about my analysis now though.

Vote Autumn
Vote Nightfall

The Jackal · 03-18-2011, 09:41 AM

Since lynching sal on day 2 I don't think we've had a villager truly in our sights once, it's fairly impressive.

Autumn · 03-18-2011, 09:42 AM

You'll find out why that is ...

The Jackal · 03-18-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Good guys

Luca Brasi -- CrimsonFox
Tom Hagen -- bhlloy
Connie Corleone -- Zinto

Traitors

Victor "The Turk" Sollozzo -- Autumn?

Good guys or Traitors

Fredo Corleone -- j23
Peter Clemenza -- Jackal
Johnny Fontane -- JAG
Moe Greene -- tyketime

I'll be absolutely stunned if there are seven wolves, but even if there were we'd still have a pretty narrow group to choose from.

JAG · 03-18-2011, 09:52 AM

Reading over the neutral roles, the two that have come up traitor are the two I would've suspected to be bad if I had to guess (essentially a brutal and a slut with double vote).

03-18-2011, 12:14 AM	#1267
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I probably will be too busy to check in much tomorrow. I am really expecting a close vote too. Do you just want to be in another werewolf game or do you want to be in THE game. Lynch someone else, CF kills bhlloy tonight and we go from there. Why think small, think big. Memories are what make life fun why not create a werewolf memory? For those of you that watch Survivor I'll ask this. Would anyone remember Francesqua if it wasn't for Phillip? Why have the game end in the same old boring way? __________________ The EagleFan YouTube Channel - Reactions Soarin' & Scratchin' YouTube Channel - We react to music, videos, TV, we talk, we are planning some field trips Soarin' & Soothin' - Meditation, Relaxation, and Sleep Aid; mental health is important

03-17-2011, 06:13 PM	#1251
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	So just the Connie scan you missed, 7 villagers. That probably would've been a demoralizing day.

03-17-2011, 06:44 PM	#1254
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Well with the Captain at least I would have hit paydirt. A wolf for a vilalger was acceptable to me. Especially since I was a big candidate for getting lynched. Crazy? Crazy like a fox... Or maybe just smart.

03-17-2011, 06:53 PM	#1257
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I did too LOL!

03-17-2011, 06:54 PM	#1258
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	JAG you played an awesome game btw. Your analysis was great and helped me work out my own doubts. Really glad you and tyke were the "better men" and stepped down off of me. I found when I stepped off of tyke and revealed the gun, the whole game kind of opened up for me.

03-17-2011, 07:17 PM	#1261
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	At first I protected Narcizo that day as he sounded like he was doing the most good vilalger analysis, then when you backup off on me when you didn't have to, I knew you had to be a villager and thus gave the gun to you. Then when you had the gun/canoli idea, I switched from protecting Narcizo to protecting you as you were the only 100% sure thing for me. And even though you kept going back to Narcizo and tyketime, I think it was a team effort totally. All of us going with our acute hunches and taking chances that paid off that did it.

03-17-2011, 07:17 PM	#1262
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	100% to me and I figured probably to the wolves as well. And since they always kill off trusted villagers...

03-17-2011, 07:23 PM	#1265
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	And also because the kill left you as q cleared villager.

03-17-2011, 09:06 PM	#1266
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Come on now, Pass.

03-18-2011, 03:25 AM	#1268
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	"Hey! Remember that one Werewolf game where EF went mad and had to be committed?" "Yeah I remember that one. That was awesome!" "The guys in the white suits came and everything!"

03-18-2011, 04:12 AM	#1270
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Now that I approve of. "We gotta stop the bomb!" "No, Jack, you ain't gonna stop nothin'!" BLAM

03-18-2011, 04:13 AM	#1271
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Wow 3 guests! Hi guests! Come on it! The water's fine.

03-18-2011, 04:13 AM	#1272
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	IN, not it.

03-18-2011, 07:02 AM	#1274
tyketime College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	I haven't looked at yesterday's frantic last hour again, but I gotta tell you - I don't know what in the hell happened. That was the first time the entire game that I felt completely lost and out of place. I'm sure there were all types of signals I was missing. But constantly hitting refresh, trying to keep up with the winds of change, and a poor note-taking system I currently have didn't help me keep up with the veterans.

03-18-2011, 08:56 AM	#1275
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Anyone have a vote count?

03-18-2011, 08:56 AM	#1276
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	The Family succeeds in taking out the head of another rival Family. EagleFan was Phillip Tattaglia and a traitor!

03-18-2011, 08:58 AM	#1277
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Day 6 begins!

03-18-2011, 09:01 AM	#1278
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Day 6?

03-18-2011, 09:01 AM	#1279
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I think so, or is my count wrong?

03-18-2011, 09:02 AM	#1280
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Just surprised, I was expecting we'd had them all. Now I'm not quite sure where to go today...

03-18-2011, 09:06 AM	#1281
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Vote Autumn Vote Nightfall

03-18-2011, 09:09 AM	#1283
tyketime College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	Veal. I'm on my phone. Looks like Autumn lied. And "The Turk" is still alive, right?

03-18-2011, 09:09 AM	#1284
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Maybe you already are, Mckerney ;-)

03-18-2011, 09:11 AM	#1286
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Phillip Tattaglia takes out a good guy in retaliation, and it's mckerney. mckerney was Appolonia and a good guy! (it was random, honest!)

03-18-2011, 09:12 AM	#1288
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Gah! Good luck good guys today.

03-18-2011, 09:14 AM	#1290
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I am strong with the Force, McKerney. Oops, wrong game.

03-18-2011, 09:17 AM	#1292
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I guess Luca can guard the same person twice in a row. Another bad rules read by me. Oh well, nice game guys. Lynch me and find out how many more you've got to find.

03-18-2011, 09:19 AM	#1293
tyketime College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2003	Vote Autumn Vote Nightfall

03-18-2011, 09:21 AM	#1294
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	VOTE CRIMSON FOX VOTE NIGHTFALL

03-18-2011, 09:30 AM	#1295
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	VOTE AUTUMN VOTE NIGHTFALL

03-18-2011, 09:41 AM	#1297
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Since lynching sal on day 2 I don't think we've had a villager truly in our sights once, it's fairly impressive.