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View Poll Results: If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next
Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc. 5 5.56%
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration. 2 2.22%
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14") 30 33.33%
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed. 12 13.33%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration 6 6.67%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up an then we have a normal transition as per option 1. 30 33.33%
Other. (You know you gotta specify this one.) 5 5.56%
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Old 01-06-2021, 06:26 PM   #1301
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Old 01-06-2021, 06:27 PM   #1302
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Something I didn't think of, they should probably operate on the assumption that every computer in the Capitol is compromised.

It would be if this was Putin's plan all along.
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Old 01-06-2021, 06:28 PM   #1303
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There were literally thousands more being arrested at protests over the summer.

We let people go because there's too many to arrest sounds like a great way to police.

I don't agree with it and it shouldn't have even got to the point that it did, but, as we have seen far too many times in this country, as long as you are white, breaking the law isn't necessarily illegal.
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Old 01-06-2021, 06:30 PM   #1304
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This seems very poorly planned. Why wouldn't the rioters quickly declare it an autonomous zone? From what I understand, when you do that, you get to occupy a place for almost a month without any political or police intervention. These buffoons only made it a few hours. Something like the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or CHAZ 2.0.
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Old 01-06-2021, 06:33 PM   #1305
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This seems very poorly planned. Why wouldn't the rioters quickly declare it an autonomous zone? From what I understand, when you do that, you get to occupy a place for almost a month without any political or police intervention. These buffoons only made it a few hours. Something like the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or CHAZ 2.0.

Well, judging by some of the flags they were carrying around, you could say they were a confederacy of dunces.
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Old 01-06-2021, 06:34 PM   #1306
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This seems very poorly planned. Why wouldn't the rioters quickly declare it an autonomous zone? From what I understand, when you do that, you get to occupy a place for almost a month without any political or police intervention. These buffoons only made it a few hours. Something like the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone, or CHAZ 2.0.

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Old 01-06-2021, 06:36 PM   #1307
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Curfew not being enforced with the vigor they were over the Summer.
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Old 01-06-2021, 06:37 PM   #1308
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Rand Paul is saying there will be no more Senate objections. We will see.

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Old 01-06-2021, 06:38 PM   #1309
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Btw, Trump people on Twitter already claiming it was actually Antifa that stormed the capital.

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Old 01-06-2021, 06:42 PM   #1310
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Sen. Carper -

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This won't go away and if there's no penalty it will encourage the next coup.
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Old 01-06-2021, 06:43 PM   #1311
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This won't go away and if there's no penalty it will encourage the next coup.

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Old 01-06-2021, 06:44 PM   #1312
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Sen. Carper -

This won't go away and if there's no penalty it will encourage the next coup.

Dems never miss an opportunity to show they are gutless cowards.
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Old 01-06-2021, 06:46 PM   #1313
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Rand Paul is saying there will be no more Senate objections. We will see.

Reports are that Hawley refuses to drop his objection to PA vote. Though he's being heavily lobbied to do so.

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Old 01-06-2021, 06:46 PM   #1314
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I mean even Chuck Todd is saying something has to happen.
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Old 01-06-2021, 07:00 PM   #1315
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Sarah Palin on Fox also blaming Antifa for attacking the Capital.

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Old 01-06-2021, 07:00 PM   #1316
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Rand Paul is saying there will be no more Senate objections. We will see.

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Reports are that Hawley refuses to drop his objection to PA vote. Though he's being heavily lobbied to do so.

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Fuck that! Someone gave her life today so those brave senators to be able to make those objections. Have the stones to continue what you started cowards!
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Old 01-06-2021, 07:26 PM   #1317
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Guy had a gun and zip ties.

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Old 01-06-2021, 07:57 PM   #1318
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Old 01-06-2021, 07:59 PM   #1319
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Shouldn't law enforcement be giving briefings? Had a terrorist attack on the Capital today. Where is Homeland Security?
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Old 01-06-2021, 08:01 PM   #1320
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Lady killed during the coup attempt was career military.

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Old 01-06-2021, 08:03 PM   #1321
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Shouldn't law enforcement be giving briefings? Had a terrorist attack on the Capital today. Where is Homeland Security?

They were busy wishing the terrorists a nice day on their way out.

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Lady killed during the coup attempt was career military.

KUSI News confirms identity of woman shot and killed inside US Capitol -

You’d think she would know rioting in the Capitol would not end well. Darwin wins again.
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Old 01-06-2021, 08:05 PM   #1323
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Probably a sideshow trivia fact that will only register with like 2 people here, but it appears Jon Shaffer, lead guitarist and main member of metal band Iced Earth, was one of the people who stormed the Capitol today.
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Old 01-06-2021, 08:06 PM   #1324
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I wish congress would get past the grandstanding and make the electoral votes official.

Plenty of time for grandstanding later.
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Sure sounds to me like Christie is implying the Cabinet should be considering the 25th.
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Old 01-06-2021, 08:11 PM   #1326
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Man, listening to Loeffler talk is like what I'd imagine listening to a cold, wet, old dirty mop talk.
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Old 01-06-2021, 08:14 PM   #1327
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Man, listening to Loeffler talk is like what I'd imagine listening to a cold, wet, old dirty mop talk.

She is one of the worst public speakers I've ever seen in politics. The few commercials where she spoke were painful to watch.
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Man, listening to Loeffler talk is like what I'd imagine listening to a cold, wet, old dirty mop talk.

At least she dropped her objection. That little rat Hawley is still talking about Pennsylvania.
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Old 01-06-2021, 08:28 PM   #1329
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This one has the video of Margaret Brennan talking about it.

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Old 01-06-2021, 08:32 PM   #1332
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If you watched the ITV report with the cameraman sort of imbedded with the Rioters as they broke in to the building, there was a futile attempt by some officers to stop them. They were greatly outnumbered, and gave up after a few baton swings.

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At least she dropped her objection. That little rat Hawley is still talking about Pennsylvania.

Very true. Weird how a member of the party of states rights is trying to interfere with a state that is not his.
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Old 01-06-2021, 08:37 PM   #1334
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Nobodyhere, they legal have to argue for two hours because of the objection that had already happened. There is no way you shorten it.

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One takeaway is that the Capital Police should probably be dissolved. Can have the Secret Service take it over going forward.

It's also a good argument for why DC deserves statehood. All this happened in the backyard of people who have no representation in government. They are at the mercy of the federal government. A federal government that looked the other way today.
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Nobodyhere, they legal have to argue for two hours because of the objection that had already happened. There is no way you shorten it.

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I didn't realize that.

There have been a few good speeches but I've never been much for politicians hot air.
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One takeaway is that the Capital Police should probably be dissolved. Can have the Secret Service take it over going forward.

It's also a good argument for why DC deserves statehood. All this happened in the backyard of people who have no representation in government. They are at the mercy of the federal government. A federal government that looked the other way today.

Yeah. If those people really wanted to kill some liberals today they could have
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Did I imagine that Lindsey Graham, yes the same Lindsey Graham that made that speech, tried to get the GA Sec of State to disqualify votes to help Trump??
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Old 01-06-2021, 09:21 PM   #1339
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Keep on dreaming the wet dream about the 25th. There may be talk but never happen. And Pence won't do it.
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The average age of Members of the House at the beginning of the 116th Congress was 57.6 years; of Senators, 62.9 years.

As I get ready to go to sleep, how in the hell are these old people staying up to certify this damn vote?!
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Did I imagine that Lindsey Graham, yes the same Lindsey Graham that made that speech, tried to get the GA Sec of State to disqualify votes to help Trump??

Yes, he committed a crime but as we have seen today, some are above the law.
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The average age of Members of the House at the beginning of the 116th Congress was 57.6 years; of Senators, 62.9 years.

As I get ready to go to sleep, how in the hell are these old people staying up to certify this damn vote?!

Your body fills with adrenaline when you have to hide under your desk and then flee a violent threat.
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Lady killed during the coup attempt was career military.

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How can this be? The media (and some posters on this forum) have led me to believe that police only shoot and kill Black people.
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How can this be? The media (and some posters on this forum) have led me to believe that police only shoot and kill Black people.

Literally no one on this forum as ever said that. The narrative has always been against bad cops, how somehow manage to kill unarmed Black men at a much higher rate than unarmed (insert race here)

And I am not from the defund the police crowd, which is just plain stupid. I believe Police need more training better screening and more opportunity to better engage the communities they serve, so they can better do their jobs.
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Literally no one on this forum as ever said that. The narrative has always been against bad cops, how somehow manage to kill unarmed Black men at a much higher rate than unarmed (insert race here)

Uh maybe not literally but there has been several that went that direction.

Vast majority of cops are bad. Lot's of pithy statements about "gee, those white folks didn't get shot, we know why wink, wink" etc.

Obviously we take that with a grain of salt. Just like we take CB's statement with a grain of salt.
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1 person got shot today during an overthrow of our capitol building while our VP and senate were inside.

What do you think would have happened if they were black or muslim?
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A couple of people that I at one point considered good friends, the husband having coached my son in football and baseball for several seasons, and the wife having served as team mom those seasons, posted pictures this afternoon from the top steps of the Capitol.

Our friendship became strained after Trump was elected in 2016, as they were very vocal Trump supporters, and I was a very anti-Trump supporter. We were able to remain friendly, but it became even more strained in 2018 when I became a very vocal Beto O'Rourke supporter, while they supported Ted Cruz.

Things were starting to thaw up until the start of the pandemic. Then in May or June, I think, I went to the farmer's market where they sell their BBQ to pick up some ribs and brisket. It's an outdoor farmer's market, but I still wore my mask when I went up to get the food and chat with them. The husband made a comment about my mask, and I said that I would rather be overcautious than not cautious enough, and he responded that he chooses not live his life in fear. That kind of ended the friendly banter we had going on.

That was the last time I've seen them in person. We've had a few minor pleasant exchanges on FB over the past couple of months, and I was hoping that our chilled friendship could thaw again. But supporting Trump is one thing...storming the Capitol is an entirely different thing.

It's sad, but I'm done with them now. I don't know how I could ever see them in a different light than that of seditious traitors who participated in a coup attempt.
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How can this be? The media (and some posters on this forum) have led me to believe that police only shoot and kill Black people.

No one says this and I'm guessing you know how dumb that sounds.

Also pretty sure the person who shot her was Secret Service. While Capital Police were compliant in the attack, the Secret Service was not going to let someone breach the chamber where the VP is in.

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And I am not from the defund the police crowd, which is just plain stupid. I believe Police need more training better screening and more opportunity to better engage the communities they serve, so they can better do their jobs.

Seems like they know how to not beat up and kill people as long as they are white and have a MAGA hat on. Today showed that this isn't a training issue, it's a decision on when to use force and when to take selfies with terrorists.
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1 person got shot today during an overthrow of our capitol building while our VP and senate were inside.

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The initial trollish post was that people have claimed the police only shoot black people. Literally no one has claimed that. If you don't know the difference between "only" and "more likely to" then you're too stupid to be taken seriously.
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