02-26-2011, 03:50 PM | #1301 | |
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Not sure I understand your question. If the user is coaching the game, then doesn't the user-controlled coach (meaning you) make all the game decisions? If the computer is set, then doesn't the computer make all the decisions while coaching the game? Seems like they would be clearly different things. I am probably not understanding your question correctly. |
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02-26-2011, 03:58 PM | #1302 |
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i think he means the option on the hot seat. There it merely determines if the game will pause when you try to sim over a game (say you want to sim ahead a month)
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02-26-2011, 04:06 PM | #1303 | |
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Since he mentioned it was under the "Team Control" options I thought he meant the other ones, but who knows |
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02-26-2011, 04:53 PM | #1304 |
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Yes, it's on the Hot Seat screen, listed under "Team Control" .
If you have it set there to USER coach games, if you "Sim Day" then it takes you to the screen to coach the game. I get that. BUT if you select "Sim Game", it will sim your game, even if you have the option set to human-coach the games. My question is, if you click to sim game when "user" is set, is it any different than clicking the toggle over to "CPU" and then simming the day? For example, does the sim always follow your "Game Plan" settings regardless of "how" you sim the game? Or are there certain settings where it follows your Game Plan settings, and others where it "does its own thing" and sets them itself? Here's a reason I'm asking... if I use the recommended settings for my team, the AI wants me to use a pretty high pace, and I think a more moderate pace fits my team better. I've played a couple of games out and simmed a few more. My team's possessions/game numbers when I look at the stats seems higher than what I'd expect for a "normal" pace (over 71 ppg). So I'm wondering if the AI selects its own pace when I sim, and so is actually ignoring my Game Plan settings. I don't know if this is even true... but if it is, I'm looking for a reason why it might, and the only thing I can see is if it perhaps is using an AI-recommended faster setting when I have it set to "CPU coach". I hope that clarifies my question. Brian may be the only one who can answer it, unless I'm missing a place where it's mentioned somewhere. Thanks again. Last edited by rtruesdell : 02-26-2011 at 05:09 PM. |
02-26-2011, 06:07 PM | #1305 | |
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Much clearer and your correct, Brian will likely need to explain |
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02-26-2011, 06:22 PM | #1306 |
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What's the lowest school you've been able to get to a title? A final four? How long did it take you?
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02-26-2011, 06:49 PM | #1307 | |
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I personally haven't started my career yet, still filling my way around and simming results. However, your question sparked another feature request for me On the conference tournament report screens for all the tournaments, would be great if a column would be added for prestige to show. This way we can track throughout history which teams were really long shots that ended up winning it all. |
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02-26-2011, 06:53 PM | #1308 | ||
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This is my school's record since I took over in 2003 (both in game years, and real life years!): Quote:
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02-26-2011, 06:56 PM | #1309 |
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Wow, Groundhog, stunningly impressive rise in 10 years! I wonder if the same will be possible in the newer version of the game.
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02-26-2011, 08:23 PM | #1310 | |
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The best way to describe CPU/USER here is it is the default for whether or not you want to watch your game with the option to make coaching changes. If the CPU is coaching at any point it does so using the settings you have selected on your depth chart and gameplan. If you want to watch/coach your games by default you should set it to user. The specific sim game/coach game options when the game is highlighted will override this choice.
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02-26-2011, 08:30 PM | #1311 | |
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The AI handles this during the game.
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02-26-2011, 08:33 PM | #1312 | |
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Can you explain exactly what you are looking for here? I can't say I've ever had a DDS game on my computer . Is it just the option to list the player performance by game?
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02-26-2011, 08:34 PM | #1313 | |
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Yeah, something got messed up with the editors in that build but it should be working for the next one.
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02-26-2011, 10:48 PM | #1314 |
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Another minor consistency item. I just noticed at the bottom of the screen you can click on the various portions of the task bar and it will take you to the corresponding screen. That is nice. However, it looks like only some of the bar items are mapped that way. For instance, you click on the various standings buttons and it takes you to the standings screen. You click on the approval button, takes you to AD. All makes sense. However, when you click on the depth or roster button, it does nothing. To be consistent, shouldn't they take you to the roster and depth chart screens? Same thing with budget. If you click on that probably should also take you to the AD screen.
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02-26-2011, 11:08 PM | #1315 |
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One thing I'd love to see is, in the Tournament Championships section, the team who lost the National Championship. You see the champion, and by going to another screen, who made the Final Four that year...but you don't see who lost in the title game unless you go to that team's history page. It's a bit cumbersome.
Lastly, would there be any way to add in the Final Top 25 ranking from each season? |
02-26-2011, 11:08 PM | #1316 |
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Few questions.
1) Under the coaches option, there is a screen called mentors. Not sure I exactly understand what that means. Does it mean you were an assistant for another coach at some point? 2) Why can't you see the mentor and past assistant options for retired coaches on the coaches screen? All the other options are there. It would be great to see what kind of people the great coaches were associated with over time. 3) On the coaches screen, there is a bonus point button. What does it do? I have never seen it active. How do you know when it is active? Do you get an email or some kind of notification? |
02-26-2011, 11:10 PM | #1317 | |
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Yep, I recommended the same thing a few posts back. You can also see the boxscore for that championship game by clicking on the score and then you can see the team. Still an extra mouse click and like you I would like to see that added. I would also like to see the presitge of the two teams playing in the championship to see if any lowe prestige schools ever make it. It would be interesting. |
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02-26-2011, 11:12 PM | #1318 |
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Ah, okay. I didn't know you could access the boxscore.
And sorry for the redundancy; I just got home from a miserable end to a poker tourney. |
02-26-2011, 11:14 PM | #1319 |
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02-26-2011, 11:26 PM | #1320 |
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I just finished my third season and all three years the NCAA champ was a 4th seed or higher. While I can't check exactly since the brackets aren't saved, I think maybe 1 or 2 #1 seeds made the final four. I think history says about 30-40% of #1 seeds make the final four.
It just seems the results might be a just a bit too random. I coach all my games and it seems sometimes either my team or the other can't miss at shoot over 55% or other times the other team is in the bonus in less than 5 minutes. Otherwise, I'm having lots of fun... just made my first tourney. All 5 starters will return although I graduated by top 3 reserves and haven't had deep recruiting classes. Usually 1 good player and a couple of scrubs.
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02-27-2011, 04:33 AM | #1321 | |
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That is a good point about seeding. Hard to tell though like you said without having the seeding tracked with history. That would be kind of nice too to see over the course of history the seeds of the winners and runner-ups. |
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02-27-2011, 05:04 AM | #1322 |
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FBBCA
If anyone is looking for a league to play in or to get in on the ground floor of a new league, we just opened up the doors to the FBBCA over on the fast break forums.
Fast Break Basketball Forum • View forum - Fast Break Basketball's College Association Feel free to stop on over and check us out. There is a huge history (already simmed 100 years) so people can look at all that before deciding on anything. The league website site is below FBBCA Last edited by muns : 02-27-2011 at 05:15 PM. |
02-27-2011, 08:21 AM | #1323 | |
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It would be much, much harder. I've made a few attempts at quick-sim careers in the new version, and haven't had nearly the same success.
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02-27-2011, 09:16 AM | #1324 |
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Perhaps a general "Defensive Pressure" option could be added to the GamePlan? Doesn't have to be position by position, but maybe something like "Sag", "Normal", and "Aggressive" for the team overall. Then the AI would tend to follow this as a general rule (while still making the tweaks by position). Or does the "Trap" setting essentially do this? Thanks in advance for the feedback, Brian. I'm really enjoying the game and like so many others, I'm super-impressed by the level of support you provide. Rod |
02-27-2011, 03:03 PM | #1325 |
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While I have definitely seen some Final Fours with lower-seeded teams in the many seasons I've simmed, it's a lot more frequent that #1 and #2 seeds are present from what I've observed.
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02-27-2011, 05:01 PM | #1326 | |
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Thanks for the info. I would defintely like to see the seeds on the history report since it would make it easier to notice trends over history. If I saw a bunch of 1 and 2 teams listed all the time, that would be concerning |
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02-27-2011, 05:21 PM | #1327 | |
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Same with individual game outcomes - there's definitely room in the sim for upsets, which is maddening when you're the one getting upset and encouraging when you're the one doing the upsetting. |
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02-27-2011, 06:39 PM | #1328 | |
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That is good to hear. So far, I have mostly just done fast simming to see how things turned out and have to agree, things look good. I am hoping after Brian releases the next update, I will finally have the time to start my career with a fresh new version. Just in case Brian happens to drop by, any eta on the next update and any hints as to what it might include |
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02-27-2011, 08:39 PM | #1329 |
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I'm going to try the 2.1.18 update and see if it fixes it, but I've been getting a number of "run-time error 360, object already loaded" crashes with the 2.1.17 .exe.
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02-27-2011, 08:48 PM | #1330 | |
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Not likely. What seems to cause it?
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02-27-2011, 09:45 PM | #1331 |
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I wish I had taken notes so I could give you specific repro steps. I'm pretty sure it has just been clicking between screens - having one screen open, then going to the menu to open another screen.
Pretty sure the last one I had was when I had the recruiting screen open, then I clicked on the roster link in the main menu. If I run into one again, I'll try to remember to write down the repro steps. |
02-28-2011, 01:38 AM | #1332 |
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Okay, I'm going to share something fun.
Indiana State, going into the MVC tournament, was 14-15. They started 0-4, and only had three wins against teams with winning records in the regular season (two against 17-14 Creighton); in fact, everyone in the MVC was weak (or deep, depending on how you look at it; Bradley won the regular season at 11-7 in-conference, 20-13 overall). Anyway, the Sycamores entered the conference tournament tied for second at 10-8, but took the #4 seed. They beat three other mediocre teams and got into the NCAA tournament, as a #15 seed facing 27-5 Arizona. The early exit expected was put on hold, as they upended the Wildcats 71-64. After beating #7 seed St. John's 88-81, they got to face fellow shocker, #14 Butler, in the Sweet Sixteen. ISU held off a late charge to advance to the Elite Eight, beating the Bulldogs 62-61. Their reward for such stellar hot play? Top seed Michigan State. That's right. It's Michigan State vs Indiana State. I just thought that was cool. Two of the brackets are chalk; the other is a 2-vs-4 matchup. Honestly, there are two games I wouldn't mind watching here: MSU/ISU and Virginia Tech vs. preseason #1 Mississippi State (a #1/#2 spot). MSU and Wake Forest (preseason #2) are both #2 seeds, and both could easily have been #1 seeds. It will be fun to watch it play out. |
02-28-2011, 06:21 AM | #1333 |
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Just had the best season yet with the new game only to see it end very disapointingly, loosing to a very beatable Richmond team in the Elite Eight ... Had my team play exactly the way i want and had a great season offensively despite starting 2 guys at PG and SF that were under 10 (on the 20 scale) for 3 point shooting.
Here´s the season Info : Code:
Just to add to the "can 1 or 2 star guys be stars" : a 2 star center as my main scoring threat. The guy can´t do anything but is a 19/20 inside scorer with 9 JPS and 9 handle, resulted in 20 PPG on 55%, 75% from the line and a 1,50 PPS on a 65 Prestige WCC team. Had him as my lone key player, scoring focus inside with only 4 for 3 pointers. Propably the most surprising player i ever had in all my time playing the original game and the 2nd version. Only recruited him because i missed out on everybody else, had still 3 scholarships in march and figured a guy scoring 38 a game in high school should at least be able to score some against undersized teams. Played sparingly as a freshman, than my 2 starting big men entered the draft for some reason and i just tried him out. overall i found that having a guy that can score inside (even if he does little else) and a great playmaker (even if he does little else) is allready half the blueprint to a good team. Here´s his profile after his sophomore season : Code:
a couple other reflecting on what type of guys i go after : 1)My starting PG that couldn´t shoot worth a lick but was a magical passer and lightning quick (which i guess is the reason for his high FG%) : Code:
2) an all around SG/SF that couldn´t shoot from deep but was very efficient elsewhere, good defender and passer : Code:
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02-28-2011, 06:27 AM | #1334 |
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Unfortunately now i loose 3 rotation guys and will have just 10 scholarship players after reaching too much and ending up only filling 3 of 6 available spots ...
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02-28-2011, 08:34 AM | #1335 | |
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That's really neat.
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02-28-2011, 12:56 PM | #1336 |
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A couple of seasons after we had the major upsets I spoke about a few posts back, I have the chalkiest tournament I've ever seen. There are two 1-2-3-4 brackets, with the other two being 1-2-3-5. There was only one seed lower than 9 to make it out of the first round.
I dig the variety. I think I'm going to try to do a small Cinderella dynasty, where I don't take a team, but monitor the low seeds and how they do each season. EDIT: Of course, I write the chalk up, and then watch three #1s lose in the Sweet Sixteen. Last edited by Comey : 02-28-2011 at 12:57 PM. |
02-28-2011, 02:24 PM | #1337 |
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In continuing to do some historical research, I've found a 3-team conference that played a 4-game schedule throughout the 50s -- the Western New York Little Three Conference, naturally!
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02-28-2011, 03:59 PM | #1338 |
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I'm not sure if anyone has asked this before but why does the CPU have timeouts set to 6 straight points by the opponent? It seems odd to me that I can be down 5-0 to start a game, hit 2 three pointers and the CPU takes a frantic timeout 2 minutes into the game. Is there any way to adjust this code in the game to maybe a 10 point run instead of a 6 point run? Or am I the only one who gets bugged by this?
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02-28-2011, 04:27 PM | #1339 |
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Maybe the momentum-stopping timeouts could be customizable for human teams. I like 3 made field goals, myself.
It also never made a lot of sense when the 6th point was scored at the front end of 2 FTs, the shooter missed the 2nd FT, and my team took a timeout after grabbing the rebound. Last edited by britrock88 : 02-28-2011 at 04:28 PM. |
02-28-2011, 04:32 PM | #1340 |
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That is a bit too global. Going from up 5-0 to down 6-5 is not really a need for a timeout. Going from up 55-50 to down 56-55 with a minute left could be.
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02-28-2011, 07:02 PM | #1341 |
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With 2.1.18, under the Current League editor, none of the assignments I make to team's divisions (from the Teams page) stick.
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02-28-2011, 07:29 PM | #1342 |
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So I'm tinkering with the demo -- I saw a color guide when I first started, but can't find it anymore. What do the colors mean? If it matters, I'm talking about recruiting, right after I evaluated each recruit.
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02-28-2011, 07:30 PM | #1343 |
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The problem was I was playing a game the other day and the CPU team had burned all it's timeouts with 3 mins left in the first half. That would never happen in "real life". Did I keep the starters in too long? Maybe but screw Columbia.
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02-28-2011, 07:40 PM | #1344 | |
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Can't remember off me head, but if you look in your email in the game when it first starts, there is a detailed email that explains it all. |
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02-28-2011, 07:52 PM | #1345 |
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Blue is best, red is worst; left side is current ability, right side is talent/potential. They are fairly rough indicators, though.
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02-28-2011, 07:54 PM | #1346 |
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Red / Orange / Yellow / Green / Blue
(worst to best)
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02-28-2011, 07:56 PM | #1347 |
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Blue-All American Candidate
Green-Starter/ Mid Major All Conference Yellow- Bench/ Mid Major Starter Orange- Bench/ Low Prestige Starter Red-Warm Body |
02-28-2011, 08:50 PM | #1348 |
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thx doods -- now for the next question, when I close my laptop, I hear a chime sound, then when I reopen it, the game is no longer open. My power options are set such that when I close it, it's supposed to do nothing.
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02-28-2011, 09:06 PM | #1349 | |
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Once players are on your roster, you are shown their true abilities, so you can start to get a sense of how far off your scouting can be if you are starting off with lower prestige schools and low-paid assistants with mediocre (or worse) scouting ratings. |
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03-01-2011, 08:03 AM | #1350 | |
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Obviously you never saw Pete Gillen coach a game.
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