Werewolf XXXIX: The Lady of La Rochelle–GAME OVER.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by BrianD

Sort of. I can see if people go out and who they deal with if they go out. I can't see what they do.

So you say you scanned hoops on night 1 as well, and your scan worked...who did you scan on day 2.

Dubb, if he is telling the truth too your role-killer sure seems to not kill a lot of roles lol

[DaddyTorgo]

showdown with me? what have i done/not done? if you notice...plenty of people (including Barkeep) voted for NTN on day 2? That's hardly damming evidence of anything.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

So you say you scanned hoops on night 1 as well, and your scan worked...who did you scan on day 2.

Dubb, if he is telling the truth too your role-killer sure seems to not kill a lot of roles lol

I was going to make the same comment, but didn't want to out myself.

I looked at DT on night 2 and he never left his room.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by BrianD

I was going to make the same comment, but didn't want to out myself.

I looked at DT on night 2 and he never left his room.

exactly. thank you brian. i never left my room...i havn't killed anyone. like i said...i sleep at night, nothing more, nothing less. well unless dubb sends me a sexy lady who i can charm with my wonderful tongue

[BrianD]

My list of complete unknowns is getting small at this point. I don't know that all of the "knowns" are good, but I'm going to vote for someone that hasn't had anyone speak on their behalf.

Vote Coffee Warlord

[DaddyTorgo]

that being said Brian...why is Fouts calling for a showdown between the two of us...?

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

that being said Brian...why is Fouts calling for a showdown between the two of us...?

Because we had nobody speak for us and have been fairly UTR. I figured I would get called out eventually, but I was hoping to have more information by the time it happened.

[DaddyTorgo]

Brian...would you at least entertain a vote for Fouts in the thinking that with him accusing the two of us who are good on top of the murder of alan that there may be something there?

note i'm not calling for fouts head, just asking if others would entertain the vote? there has been significant questions about fouts through the whole game...

[DaddyTorgo]

who has spoken for fouts?

[hoopsguy]

Brian, I just double-checked my PM to make sure I wasn't losing my mind and forgetting something. About the only comments I got direct in the PM from the woman on Night 1 had to do with my appearance (I'm not the worst she has had).

If BrianD is vouching that DaddyTorgo did not go out last night then I'll go ahead and vote for Tyrith. As I noted earlier, their votes have matched so far this game but neither lined up with SnDvls. That led me to believe that we had better odds of one of these people being a Muskateer than any other direction. If Tyrith did happen to show up as a Muskateer it would also help me solidify some potential trusts.

VOTE TYRITH

[DaddyTorgo]

all we know is that he is the high ranking officer. that doesn't mean that he MUST be good...

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by dubb93

Players we have no role information on;
3 DaddyTorgo - Vanilla villager, cleared by brian
4 Jonathan Ezarik
8 Tyrith
11 ntndeacon
14 BrianD - Partial seer, clears DT
15 Coffee Warlord

Assuming both are telling the truth, that leaves JE, Tyrith, NTN, and CW.

Tyrith claimed a role, JE claimed vanilla, and neither NTN or CW have claimed roles that i can tell.

I wouldnt mind seeing any of those 4 duel it out, but if i had to pick one id pick NTN who won his duel with swordsmanship and might be a musketeer. Weak, but its the best i got.

[LoneStarGirl]

What is the point of having duels if everybody chickens out? Who else should i challenge?

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Brian...would you at least entertain a vote for Fouts in the thinking that with him accusing the two of us who are good on top of the murder of alan that there may be something there?

note i'm not calling for fouts head, just asking if others would entertain the vote? there has been significant questions about fouts through the whole game...

I'm not really interested in voting for Fouts. I could be wrong, but I got the impression from the first night that he was ok.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Brian, I just double-checked my PM to make sure I wasn't losing my mind and forgetting something. About the only comments I got direct in the PM from the woman on Night 1 had to do with my appearance (I'm not the worst she has had).

If BrianD is vouching that DaddyTorgo did not go out last night then I'll go ahead and vote for Tyrith. As I noted earlier, their votes have matched so far this game but neither lined up with SnDvls. That led me to believe that we had better odds of one of these people being a Muskateer than any other direction. If Tyrith did happen to show up as a Muskateer it would also help me solidify some potential trusts.

VOTE TYRITH

interesting point. i know i'm good even if i did not happen to vote with SnDvls. And I'm not sure why my vote matched up with Tyrith honestly, Day One I was hoping as I said to get a duel and then when another one developed it didn't make sense to bandwagon onto one of those two, and on day 2 as I said before A LOT of people voted for ntn, including many others who are trusted and proved good.

I don't see it damming that my vote didn't line up with SnDvls, and although I admit that it is weird that my vote lined up with Tyrith, it's a very small sample-size to draw anything from, especially because I'm one of the good guys.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by BrianD

I'm not really interested in voting for Fouts. I could be wrong, but I got the impression from the first night that he was ok.

fair enough. question withdrawn for the moment. as i said earlier, i think that even though one of the two must have a different agenda we likely learn more from keeping them both alive still.

at least as long as one isn't after my cute lil head

[Fouts]

Nice waste of a vote hoops.

[Fouts]

current vote, correct me if I'm wrong;

3 CW - Tyrith(1140), dubb(1222), BrianD(1305)
2 Jonathan - Lathum(1120), CW(1262)
2 BrianD - blade(1271), LSG(1274)
1 DT - NTN(1127)
1 hoops - path(1134)
1 Tyrith - hoops(1310)

not voted: Jonathan, Fouts, DT
can't vote: st.cronin

[DaddyTorgo]

aside from me Fouts, who would you suggest that we vote for then?

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Assuming both are telling the truth, that leaves JE, Tyrith, NTN, and CW.

Tyrith claimed a role, JE claimed vanilla, and neither NTN or CW have claimed roles that i can tell.

I wouldnt mind seeing any of those 4 duel it out, but if i had to pick one id pick NTN who won his duel with swordsmanship and might be a musketeer. Weak, but its the best i got.

I had a decent feeling for JE and Tyrith from early in the game, but I feel like I have decent feelings about too many people...

[Fouts]

Last hour of the voting. I will be voting for someone that is in the running for a duel. I will not throw away my vote. We are trying to get the correct people in a duel here, and I prefer people not affiliated to be involved in a duel.

DT - Nice attempt to get the mob after me (again). Brian didn't vouch for you until after I had posted. You want to string me up because of something I said before all the information came out?

[DaddyTorgo]

NO I DON'T FOUTS. that's why i withdrew the question. and i don't understand the (again) part of it either.

[DaddyTorgo]

and sometimes reading through things I get muddied about when stuff gets posted before/after stuff and post before I go back and check timestamps.

okay?

and my point was fouts that with your vote and my vote we can propel someone into the duel...

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I would rather avoid a duel tonight and just get a straight lynch.

VOTE COFFEE WARLORD

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I would rather avoid a duel tonight and just get a straight lynch.

VOTE COFFEE WARLORD

When your the other person on the block of course you want to avoid a duel

[Fouts]

The again refered to other people, not you. There have been a few people in this game that would like to lynch the duke role. They will accept all the other roles, but boy is the duke suspicious.

Leaving for dinner soon, so I need to get a vote in.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

I said last night that I wanted a straight lynch today.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Fouts

The again refered to other people, not you. There have been a few people in this game that would like to lynch the duke role. They will accept all the other roles, but boy is the duke suspicious.

Leaving for dinner soon, so I need to get a vote in.

aaaah okay. i thought it was an attack on me.

[Blade6119]

UNVOTE BRIAND

Im not sure where im going to place this...i dont have a interest in seeing any of the 4 uncleared duel over the others, so ill likely just vote whoever is in 2nd and keep it close. That way maybe we can catch a wolf or two jockying for position

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE JONATHAN

i'm not opposed to a duel between the two

[Fouts]

current vote, correct me if I'm wrong;

4 CW - Tyrith(1140), dubb(1222), BrianD(1305), Jonathan(1324)
2 Jonathan - Lathum(1120), CW(1262)
2 BrianD - blade(1271), LSG(1274)
1 DT - NTN(1127)
1 hoops - path(1134)
1 Tyrith - hoops(1310)

not voted: Fouts, DT
can't vote: st.cronin

We need either 7 or 8 for a straight lynch. Whats the case on CW?

[Fouts]

current vote, correct me if I'm wrong;

4 CW - Tyrith(1140), dubb(1222), BrianD(1305), Jonathan(1324)
3 Jonathan - Lathum(1120), CW(1262), DT(1330)
1 BrianD - LSG(1274)
1 DT - NTN(1127)
1 hoops - path(1134)
1 Tyrith - hoops(1310)

not voted: Fouts, blade
can't vote: st.cronin

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I said last night that I wanted a straight lynch today.

3 hours ago is not last night...i just checked your posts, and this call for a straight lynch happened 3 hours ago. Thats a BIG difference from last night, noting.

[DaddyTorgo]

current vote, correct me if I'm wrong;

3 CW - Tyrith(1140), dubb(1222), BrianD(1305), Jon (1324)
2 Jonathan - Lathum(1120), CW(1262), DT (1330)
2 BrianD - , LSG(1274)
1 DT - NTN(1127)
1 hoops - path(1134)
1 Tyrith - hoops(1310)

not voted: Fouts, Blade
can't vote: st.cronin

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Fouts

We need either 7 or 8 for a straight lynch. Whats the case on CW?

The he hasnt done much..basically thats the argument..though the one for JE isnt any better, as its just that he claims to be normal when most people have some twist to their role at least.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Nice waste of a vote hoops.

I guess, but the top vote getter only had 3 votes. So with a lot of votes still to be counted I tried to put it on the person I thought was most likely to be a bad guy.

I'm up for changing it if we need to aggregate votes or if I want to try and keep someone out of a duel based on in-game info + gut. I should be around up to the deadline, so I'm certainly looking to discuss votes here.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

I'm with you on this. By allowing us to leave it up to a duel, the wolves are able to hide their votes too easily. Let's make some people come out and force them into making decisions.

This is from last night, Blade.

[Fouts]

Ok, looks like we are going for a duel.

vote Jonathan

Reasons: Doesn't want a duel, claims a vanilla role in a non-vanilla game, harassed me on night 1.

[Blade6119]

[b]VOTE NTNDEACON[/B

One of the 4 uncleareds, he won his duel with swordsmanship, and hasnt claimed a role that i can remember. I said earlier in my 4 uncleareds list post he was my top suspect now, and as such i must vote him unless the lynch/duel needs me.

[Fouts]

With that I'm out for a couple hours. Hope we get lucky here.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

This is from last night, Blade.

I missed that, sorry..3 hours ago you will note you called for a lynch. My mistake, but im not voting you anyways so it doesnt matter much

[Fouts]

blade and hoops, both voting for non-participants. VERY interesting. Back later.

[Blade6119]

grrrrr, typo

VOTE NTNDEACON

[Coffee Warlord]

So...which end of a sword do I use?

Yeah, I'm nice and screwed here.

[hoopsguy]

CW and Jonathan already have votes on each other, so there is no room for a late "self preservation" swing here.

It would take some heavy lifting to set up a majority vote at this point and I don't have a strong enough feeling on anyone right now to be overly moved to do this. Anyone have different thoughts?

[Coffee Warlord]

By the by, my rather pointless role (as it turns out) involves knowing certain secret passages within the fortress, allowing me a one time quick escape in the event I am attacked at night.

If Jonathan is as remotely as good as he claims at dueling, you'll be losing me, but you're not losing much of use.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by Fouts

Ok, looks like we are going for a duel.

vote Jonathan

Reasons: Doesn't want a duel, claims a vanilla role in a non-vanilla game, harassed me on night 1.

Yeah, because we learned so much from last night's duel didn't we. Let's do it again! We are wasting our time with duels. And I'm not just saying this because my neck is on the line. I felt this way last night. By going with duels, we are allowing the wolves to hide their votes. And somehow this makes people think that I'm bad.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

So...which end of a sword do I use?

Yeah, I'm nice and screwed here.

Well, I'm guessing you are not another seer. Based on your Day 1 questions I figured you had some kind of a role that you felt was useful but weak in duels - a big part of the reason I have shied away from you over the first couple of days despite you calling my activity levels into question. So, if your death is a foregone conclusion in a duel I would strongly encourage you to give the crowd reasons to vote for another.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

Yeah, because we learned so much from last night's duel didn't we. Let's do it again! We are wasting our time with duels. And I'm not just saying this because my neck is on the line. I felt this way last night. By going with duels, we are allowing the wolves to hide their votes. And somehow this makes people think that I'm bad.

Unfortunately the majority vote also allows people to hide their votes, at least in my opinion.

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Well, I'm guessing you are not another seer. Based on your Day 1 questions I figured you had some kind of a role that you felt was useful but weak in duels - a big part of the reason I have shied away from you over the first couple of days despite you calling my activity levels into question. So, if your death is a foregone conclusion in a duel I would strongly encourage you to give the crowd reasons to vote for another.

I came out firing at people early on day 2 in the hopes I could touch a nerve with the right people and force a nighttime deal. Not certain I'd get info out of it if I was attacked at night, but it was worth a shot.