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Old 09-10-2020, 10:34 AM   #1301
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...and by the way, if you want to attack me for the backwards logic in the KRB stat, please peruse an old thread somewhere on this message board where we worked through this and, I think, pretty definitively unlocked this. A KRB does not (as you would intuitively assume) indicate a successful intermediate step where a certain blocker did a good job, and enabled a better outcome. It is 100% correlated with the play itself satisfying a numeric outcome, period.

I think it's still a useful metric, but learning this has sometimes been a pull-the-curtain-back moment for some FOFers.

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Old 09-10-2020, 11:01 AM   #1302
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BLOCKING
NAME
G
GS
KRB
KRBO
KRB%
PNK
SKA
SK%
RPLY
PPLY
PEN
C Anthony Fitzgerald
16
16
25
85
29.4
3
1
0.1
308
764
2
LT Shane Lyons
16
16
13
57
22.8
2
19
2.5
308
764
5
RG Morris Mauriello
16
16
14
46
30.4
0
11
1.4
308
764
5
LG Neil Randle
16
16
16
43
37.2
0
5
0.7
308
764
5
RT Dashawn Dawson
16
16
8
41
19.5
0
6
0.8
308
764
4


For reference, here (WAS above due to sloppy pasting, and BAL below) are the comparable stats for the OL blockers on my GML teams, where I clearly don't have the key to the gameplanning kingdom in any way:


NAME
G
GS
KRB
KRBO
KRB%
PNK
SKA
SK%
RPLY
PPLY
PEN
RT O.J. Sheldon
16
16
22
62
35.5
0
15
2.1
329
707
8
C Shaun Cook
16
16
14
52
26.9
1
6
0.8
329
707
7
LG Josh Gaines
16
16
17
50
34.0
0
9
1.3
329
707
8
LG Roosevelt Carpenter
16
16
13
43
30.2
0
8
1.2
314
694
5
LG Blaine Emmons
16
16
14
36
38.9
1
4
0.6
329
707
12
BLOCKING
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Old 09-10-2020, 11:04 AM   #1303
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...and damn that feels like a lot of penalties against the Ravens OL. What gives? We pushed the group into the high intelligence triad specifically to cut down on this. Wonder if that's a fluke, or a serious problem?


Int ratings for the 5 starters:

LT Gaines 99
LG Emmons 76 (12 penalties, playing guard!)

C Cook 90

RG Carpenter 94
RT Sheldon 91


Harumph
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Old 09-10-2020, 11:05 AM   #1304
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prior year (with T O'Donnell who was a numbskull):


NAME
G
GS
KRB
KRBO
KRB%
PNK
SKA
SK%
RPLY
PPLY
PEN
C Shaun Cook
16
16
15
65
23.1
1
9
1.4
362
626
11
RT O.J. Sheldon
16
16
22
60
36.7
1
13
2.1
362
626
2
LG Blaine Emmons
16
16
13
48
27.1
0
8
1.3
358
623
9
LG Roosevelt Carpenter
16
16
8
41
19.5
0
7
1.1
358
623
8
LT Miguel O'Donnell
16
16
10
40
25.0
1
9
1.4
362
626
19
BLOCKING
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Old 09-10-2020, 05:09 PM   #1305
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If I were granted a window of spare time and restricted to only FOF use, I might really dig into the current tzack StL gameplan... he's already seemingly mastered the super-pass-heavy attack, and with this team has seemingly built up an unstoppable running game...


NAME
G
GS
KRB
KRBO
KRB%
PNK
SKA
SK%
RPLY
PPLY
PEN
C Michael Barringer
16
16
45
105
42.9
5
2
0.3
483
607
16
RG Brenden Parson
16
16
39
92
42.4
1
4
0.7
483
607
10
RG Gabe Meyer
16
16
32
79
40.5
3
5
0.8
508
607
20
LT Freezer Talley
16
16
32
77
41.6
6
0
0.0
508
607
12
LT Dakota Lichtenberg
16
16
22
53
41.5
0
5
0.8
500
607
13
BLOCKING


Getting 40% key run blocks is quite good for a lineman. And every guy on that team is posting that level. They're all good, I get that, but there's witchcraft involved here and it theoretically can't be as hard to uncork as the high-end passing game...right?


still no aunt jemima award, that's a failure
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Old 09-11-2020, 07:02 AM   #1306
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he mocks us littles
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Old 09-11-2020, 07:03 AM   #1308
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Well, no cigar for us, but not a terrible season all told.
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Old 09-11-2020, 09:33 AM   #1309
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:34 AM   #1310
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Yeah, I'm okay with it. But have the nagging sense that with these two star WRs in Baltimore, and a good-enough QB to go with them, a legit gameplanner probably would have an elite team going. And I don't. So that's kinda humbling.

In Washington, I'm fine where we are - we are a borderline elite team, and are benefiting (I think) from my willingness to add key non-affinity players there (I have two at LB right now). That's a solid team, maybe one click away from being in the top tier conversation every season now. The #2 seed behind tzach two years running... yeah, I'm okay with that as my station.
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:41 AM   #1311
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Ravens Reset - 2125 Offseason

We lost CB Maas to retirement, no shock, but did not yet lose our DB leader in CB Bernardino - an 11th year guy now, on a $35m expiring contract. It will happen soon enough. But right now, we are very strong there chem-wise... though performance-wise we left a lot on the field last season for some reason(s).

Code:
Front Office Football Eight Baltimore Ravens Roster, Scout Overview Player # Pos Start Exp Current Estimate Future Estimate Cntrct Lyle, Austin 109 QB 6 45 45 1 yr. Justin, Evan 114 QB 8 24 24 --- Gilliland, Marco 105 QB 2 9 27 1 yr. Allegretti, Jeffrey 233 RB 6 55 55 2 yrs. Joyner, Donnie 223 RB 6 46 46 1 yr. Hillhouse, Kristopher 349 FB 7 65 65 3 yrs. Bryant, Nate 346 FB 6 14 14 1 yr. Gilbertson, Johnnie 440 TE 3 53 53 2 yrs. Hartman, Marcus 484 TE 5 37 37 2 yrs. Huffman, Alexander 481 TE 4 32 38 --- VanCaeyzeele, Parker 511 FL 7 67 67 2 yrs. Webster, Christopher 512 FL 2 41 58 3 yrs. McCormick, Phil 583 FL 3 32 45 2 yrs. Schlafly, B.J. 588 FL 7 26 26 --- Olman, J.J. 516 FL 3 24 41 1 yr. Bridges, Buddy 585 FL 8 23 23 1 yr. Behne, Warren 518 SE 7 81 81 2 yrs. Collins, William 580 SE 7 42 42 1 yr. Dupont, Ivan 582 SE 2 28 37 3 yrs. Hanley, Rodolfo 586 SE 5 22 33 --- Cook, Shaun 663 C 7 55 55 1 yr. Gaines, Josh 775 LG 10 79 79 2 yrs. Emmons, Blaine 762 LG 3 78 87 2 yrs. Carpenter, Roosevelt 779 LG 4 57 57 1 yr. Paullin, Terry 866 LT 14 1 1 --- Sheldon, O.J. 871 RT 7 45 45 1 yr. Hillenmeyer, Daniel 872 RT 2 18 36 --- Moore, Reggie 902 P 6 83 83 1 yr. Thomas, Mario 1003K 11 83 83 1 yr. Turnbull, Kevin 1191LDE 7 60 60 1 yr. Espinosa, Joey 1193LDE 3 47 47 --- Baump, Jackson 1198RDE 5 66 66 3 yrs. Douglas, Kim 1294NT 8 37 37 --- Middleton, Tucker 1297NT 10 33 33 1 yr. Crawford, Parker 1292NT 6 32 32 1 yr. Rhodes, Carlos 1357SILB 7 57 57 --- Crawford, Tyler 1354WILB 8 49 49 2 yrs. Dawson, Dave 1352WILB 9 44 44 --- Schenk, Rich 1356WILB 9 43 43 1 yr. Sorota, Tyrus 1415SLB 10 58 58 1 yr. Gardner, Anthony 1453WLB 9 52 52 1 yr. Thomas, Burt 1447WLB 8 40 40 2 yrs. Boyd, Ernest 1526LCB 6 63 63 3 yrs. Kindred, Matt 1532LCB 5 43 43 1 yr. Bernardino, Shaun 1507RCB 11 63 63 1 yr. Logan, Bennett 1534RCB 7 47 47 2 yrs. Wiggins, Les 1542RCB 9 45 45 2 yrs. Stone, Ken 1645FS 3 50 51 1 yr. O'Neal, Dylan 1630FS 2 34 44 3 yrs. Spangler, Doug 1627FS 3 32 39 2 yrs. Padilla, Dustin 1625FS 10 27 27 1 yr. Moore, Luke 669 LS 3 16 16 --- $$ - player is suspended, ## - player is inactive, ** = player is injured, %% - player is on IR. Players Under Contract: 41 Inactive: 0 On Active Roster: 41 Salary Cap: $724,500,000 Cap Room: $128,220,000 Maximum for New Player: $104,640,000 Cap Room Lost (to old contracts): $810,000 Cap Room Lost Next Year (to old contracts): $0 Cap Room Required Next Year: $383,620,000

So, we have work to do... cap space with which to do it...and a bit of urgency as our receivers are in their absolute prime with no hardware to show for it, other than PVC being among the league leaders in the non-absurd-offense division.

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Old 09-12-2020, 12:15 PM   #1312
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LB Rhodes gave us two good years at $32m per... now wants a raise in free agency, I doubt we do that. I am pretty content with passable cheap LB I can get anywhere, including the FA bargain bin.

DE Espinosa is a RFA, wants $8-9m, and likely will get it. I like him, and 8 sacks in limited duty is good bang for the buck.

TE Huffman wants a RFA deal for $7m/yr, will be a tough call.

WR/KR Hanley wants $10m, unlikely. 26.8 yards per kickoff? A hobo can do that for us.

...no major commitments from our current crop of free agents.

For our expiring guys... P Moore $5m if we want to extend him...K Thomas $10...DE Turnbull maybe 15...C Cook $8...LB Gardner $15...

And then there's QB Lyle. 45/45 non-star, but apparently the best fit we will get at that critical position. So... we pay up on his roughly $70m/yr request? I guess so. I'd probably have to pay that much next year in open free agency, I suppose, with the risk that he might just walk.

I go ahead and put in a first big offer to Lyle, gotta do it, I reckon. But that will eat up a nice chunk of this year's theoretical "play with" money.
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Old 09-12-2020, 12:26 PM   #1313
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Ravens LB planning, thinking through typing:

If we decide not to re-sign either of our free agents, and sign nobody at all, the lineup looks like this with letter grades for my satisfaction:

Base
ILB Schenk B, Crawford B
OLB Sorota A-, Gardner A-

3WR
ILB Crawford C
OLB Sorota A-, Thomas B

So...we're not in bad shape with only 5 guys, but ideally would benefit from a coverage-inclined guy to patrol the deep middle in passing situations. Rhodes was my guy for this last year, but his zone is under 50, so still not ideal and he's very pricey. Is this possibly a target spot for, say, a 2nd round draft pick? Perhaps. A free agent? Perhaps.

Not a gaping need... but it's a passing league, and we aspire to be a team holding the lead a lot. So, we'll keep it in mind
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Old 09-12-2020, 04:28 PM   #1314
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Made one trade inquiry for a veteran LB who would have filled our need nicely...was politely declined.
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Old 09-12-2020, 04:39 PM   #1315
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Okay, let's head down I-95 a ways, shall we?

Code:
Front Office Football Eight D.C. United Roster, Standard View Player # Pos Start HT WT Exp Birthdate Draft College Matlosz, Winston 102 QB 6-1 202 2 08/31/2099 5 (25) Southern Method Clancy, Rondell 109 QB 6-0 213 11 09/22/2091 1 (4) Mississippi Sta Rister, Bobby 225 RB 5-11 214 10 08/05/2092 --- Tennessee Reed, Ruben 226 RB 6-2 237 3 12/05/2100 --- Kansas State Clements, Herb 231 RB 5-10 204 4 09/13/2098 --- Iowa Wheeler, Renaldo 232 RB 6-0 218 2 11/24/2099 --- Michigan Rastok, Caiden 329 FB 6-2 252 5 07/27/2097 --- Tennessee Hackney, Brandon 344 FB 5-10 245 8 11/29/2096 --- Boston College Dawkins, Neil 441 TE 6-5 250 7 10/17/2097 --- Louisiana - Mon Wells, Weston 448 TE 6-4 254 2 09/14/2100 3 (25) Northern Illino Corbett, Luis 487 TE 6-4 257 9 08/12/2095 --- Arizona Clancy, Bruce 515 FL 6-0 188 6 09/22/2096 --- Miles Roach, Barry 522 FL 5-9 196 7 11/27/2097 3 (22) Duke Everhart, William 580 FL 6-2 192 6 09/18/2096 1 (32) Alabama - Birmi Malone, Damon 582 FL 6-0 193 10 09/23/2091 1 (13) Nebraska Carrubba, David 504 SE 5-7 187 5 09/09/2096 1 (4) Virginia Duncan, Javier 510 SE 5-11 186 2 09/07/2103 4 (25) Colorado Robbins, Lester 589 SE 5-11 187 8 11/29/2095 4 (18) Virginia Milita Fitzgerald, Anthony 660 C 6-3 292 8 01/14/2095 1 (15) Notre Dame Holsey, Branden 661 C 6-3 282 5 01/08/2098 7 (20) Syracuse Randle, Neil 770 LG 6-4 317 8 01/07/2096 5 (14) Brigham Young Mauriello, Morris 776 RG 6-3 314 8 10/13/2095 3 (19) West Liberty St Lyons, Shane 873 LT 6-6 317 7 10/19/2096 1 (22) Buffalo Rodier, Donovan 874 LT 6-5 315 3 01/19/2101 1 (28) Wake Forest Dawson, Dashawn 877 RT 6-7 325 11 12/28/2091 1 (26) Texas Burton, Dennis 914 P 6-5 224 2 07/10/2101 --- Florida Wijaya, Joel 1003K 6-4 210 6 06/01/2097 5 (32) Georgia Tech Jacobs, Timothy 1192LDE 5-10 292 6 06/04/2097 2 (32) Ashland Ogden, Thurman 1193LDE 6-4 292 6 11/20/2098 2 (26) Nebraska Wolfe, Riddick 1196LDE 6-3 315 8 10/30/2096 3 (15) Arizona Gillespie, Samuel 1197LDE 6-4 308 2 11/06/2102 7 (25) Auburn Pascal, Roderick 1290NT 6-3 316 11 03/29/2093 2 (20) Indiana Sweeney, Aiden 1291NT 6-0 317 3 11/19/2100 3 (28) Rice Ruddick, Paul 1340SILB 6-1 245 2 06/19/2101 1 (25) Texas O'Neill, Ronald 1354SILB 6-2 265 8 11/16/2094 7 (15) Wake Forest Jones, Jumbo 1357SILB 6-0 232 8 06/20/2095 2 (20) Mississippi Antonick, A.J. 1355WILB 6-0 238 10 11/06/2092 3 (11) Mississippi Duda, Terrance 1451SLB 5-10 238 9 07/22/2094 1 (21) Florida State Welch, Max 1453SLB 6-1 243 6 03/20/2098 1 (20) Stanford Sinclair, Alan 1449WLB 6-0 241 7 06/07/2096 7 (22) Southern Method Shedd, Landon 1452WLB 6-0 238 11 11/13/2092 2 (8) East Carolina Jasper, Francisco 1456WLB 6-3 264 2 11/07/2099 --- Minnesota Peterson, Cesar 1523LCB 5-11 192 5 09/03/2096 --- Southern Califo Junker, Josiah 1527LCB 5-9 182 2 08/02/2102 2 (25) Ohio State Franz, Taylor 1520RCB 5-9 178 3 08/04/2100 --- Indiana Rice, Clifton 1538RCB 5-10 197 7 07/28/2094 --- Texas Christian Jeffrey, Colton 1547RCB 5-8 184 7 09/04/2095 4 (11) Florida Reese, Miles 1642SS 6-0 209 7 09/05/2096 3 (12) North Carolina Chiba, Tyler 1643SS 5-7 188 6 07/27/2097 --- Assumption Scott, Tom 1630FS 5-10 183 2 09/20/2102 6 (25) Oklahoma Sampson, Carter 1633FS 6-0 210 6 08/30/2096 --- Illinois Trippi, Caiden 665 LS 6-3 243 4 09/20/2098 --- Illinois $$ - player is suspended, ## - player is inactive, ** = player is injured, %% - player is on IR. Players Under Contract: 36 Inactive: 0 On Active Roster: 36 Salary Cap: $724,500,000 Cap Room: $208,740,000 Maximum for New Player: $182,830,000 Cap Room Lost (to old contracts): $1,330,000 Cap Room Lost Next Year (to old contracts): $0 Cap Room Required Next Year: $348,190,000

36 players signed, a bit more cap space than up in crabtown, let's see what we have cooking here in the capital city.

RB/FB is going to take some untangling... RB Clements has the one breakout year but bars look awful, to be honest... RB Reed looks the part (59 Brk, 77/90 HoleRec) but endurance void they say is poison... RB Wheeler got a look last year, posting just 4.06 ypc but he's got the three key ratings all pretty good (41/74/78), a +7 move in last year's preseason and overall suggests a non-fumbler. I reckon we keep two of these fellas.

At FB, I have been semi-happy with Hackney and his 72 Run Blocking and 94 special teams. If we let the new guy Rastok take the chem leadership (and that's the plan here) then he'll settle right in. Will take some money to bring Hackney back, though - we'll see if AVAILABLE nabs him away, I don't think I'll lose to a human owner.


As for contract stuff... some of that cap space will indeed be occupied by guys we really want to re-sign (or RFAs we likely re-up with before they get freed up).

We probably have cap room for one or two meaningful signings... have to look through the field and see if there's someone who comes in and looks to make an impact right away. Replacing our high dollar, non-affinity TE would be nice, but we're willing to plod him back out there to grind out his 7 ypt - compared to recent seasons, that's wayyyyyy in the black.

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Old 09-14-2020, 09:10 AM   #1316
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oops just realized i posted the wrong DC roster grab but who cares
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Old 09-14-2020, 10:47 AM   #1317
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So, FA stages 1:2-3 pass and nothing happens in the Baltimore timeline. Seriously. We didn't sign anyone, didn't lose out on anyone, nothing.

We're in the lead on 8 free agents, that's fine - maybe a click fewer then normal. (By the way, I'm still a "fewer" guy, the AP can go eat a bag of dicks)

Draft is moving along, time for me to go dig into our choices with our late-ish 1st rounder... a trade out is always in play, I just haven't really looked much.
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Old 09-14-2020, 11:56 AM   #1318
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As for the other team...also no major movement. We signed a no-risk DB, I'll detail him later if he looks like he will stick. I hope he doesn't - it would mean other things haven't worked out the way I want them to.

Leaders on 11 pending free agents, and in the mix on two more. That's a standard offseason kickoff for my teams. We'll see. No huge offers in the mix, for what it's worth.
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Old 09-14-2020, 02:37 PM   #1319
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So my draft conundrum is this - I have a player available who looks pretty good, at a need position, and in the right triad for my team chemistry. So, no brainer, right?

Well... I'm amidst some possible shifting of chemistry. And that might render the player a neutral, rather than an affinity - at least short term. And if the free agency play (to be sorted out soon) goes my way, then my "need" at the position becomes far less acute, short term. So... is he still the best fit?

Maybe so. No trade down/out offers, and I don't really love anyone else. I have my standard "best affinity impact position player available" as my Plan B here- he's a WR who projects to me as a WR3, at best. So... what to do?
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Old 09-14-2020, 02:52 PM   #1320
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I would not go with the WR... you have the 2, then the Webster investment last year... take the gamble.

Just my 2 cents,
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Old 09-14-2020, 03:01 PM   #1321
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Yup. Done.




Baltimore: QuikSand takes T T.J. Caver with the 1.25 pick.

Run Blocking49<->77
Pass Blocking72<->100
Blocking Strength10<->37
Endurance50<->78

HT
WT
RAW
ADJ
DASH
SOL
BENCH
AGI
BRJU
POS
%DEV
79
328
6.1
6.7
5.08
46
26
7.34
104
-
46



that look is basically the same as mine - max protect LT with meh run blocking


he's a 3-4 chem guy, and we might be switching our lead to a 3-4 guy, but I think this makes sense to stick with him...
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Old 09-14-2020, 04:58 PM   #1322
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..speaking of my "I guess I could take him" receiver... oh, he just gets grabbed by...




Atlanta: Ben E Lou takes WR Marlon Stevenson with the 1.26 pick.

Avoid Drops41<->69
Getting Downfield34<->62
Route Running73<->100
Third Down Catching48<->75
Big-Play Receiving73<->100
Courage12<->39
Adjust to Ball41<->68
Punt Returning0<->27
Kick Returning0<->27
Endurance20<->48
Special Teams
30<->58

HT
WT
RAW
ADJ
DASH
SOL
BENCH
AGI
BRJU
POS
%DEV
71
187
5.6
5.8
4.40
24
11
7.08
105
47
48



oh.
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Old 09-14-2020, 05:04 PM   #1323
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And from the DC BUREAU...




Washington: KickStand takes OLB Manuel Brew with the 1.29 pick.

Run Defense68<->95
Pass Rush Technique0<->27
Pass Rush Strength73<->100
Man-to-Man Defense64<->91
Zone Defense70<->97
Bump-and-Run Defense27<->53
Play Diagnosis59<->85
Punishing Hitter37<->64
Endurance29<->56
Special Teams55<->81

HT
WT
RAW
ADJ
DASH
SOL
BENCH
AGI
BRJU
POS
%DEV
74
248
6.2
5.9
4.88
40
25
7.22
118
37
61



If we can overlook the lack of pass rushing (and i most definitely can) he looks pretty complete. I am persuaded (in part, i think, buoyed by Ben's comments in a recent VideoChat) that having a dedicated coverage-strong LB to play MLB in pass situations is important, and I'm hopeful this will be that guy. Don't love taking LB in round one two straight years, but the silver lining argument is basically that I do want to be drafting late enough in round one that all the "key position" guys are basically exhausted and BPA types come more reasonably into play. So, there's that, I guess.



Anyhow, for now a boring linebacker. Maybe one day he'll be a 12 pass defenses guy, but for now, just a piece in the background puzzle of tryna build up a good overall roster. (It's not far from my mind that I am paying big money to two veteran non-affinity LBs here, so drafting teo good fit guys who can maybe turn into Thing 1 and Thing 2 would be a way out of that)
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Old 09-14-2020, 07:06 PM   #1324
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I like the look of that LB... is his ST good enough that he'll be helping there as well, or is DC a ST crazy strength as well?
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Old 09-14-2020, 08:56 PM   #1325
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He should play special teams in DC, yes. I think our threshold there is roughly 60, and I'm hopeful he'll be higher than that. I think Endurance is his most important rating, just as a limit on how much we can play him, I'm hoping it's 42 rather than 24.
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Old 09-15-2020, 12:34 AM   #1326
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BTW, a key run block works like this in FOF:

-each designed run play has one blocker selected as the key blocker
-that selected blocker will be credited with one key run block opporutnity in-game
-the play gets run, presumably with that guy having extra influence in blocking dice rolls
-if the play is deemed a success, the key blocker is awarded a successful key run block

The determination of "success" seems to be based on some formula from Football Outsiders... I cannot recall it directly, but it's close to this:

On 1st down, get 5 yards
On 2nd down, get half (or maybe 40% of?) the distance for a 1st down
On 3rd/4th down, get the 1st down
The FO success formula is 40% of available yardage on 1st down, 60% on 2nd & the 100% on 3rd.
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Many thanks, I suspected my details were off. Appreciate the fill-in.
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Old 09-15-2020, 09:53 AM   #1328
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...FWIW, I seem to recall testing this way back when, and I have a vague recollection that Jim's FOF success metric for a 1st down run was pinned to a number of yards, rather than a percentage of the distance to go. Like, it needed to get 4 yards (40% of 10) even if it was 1st and 20 due to a penalty or something. Can't swear to that, but there's a grain of salt.
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Old 09-15-2020, 11:46 AM   #1329
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Ravens update still boring AF. We pursued but lost out on a lineman.

We have a chem problem among our D7 - we are built around an 11-12 leader, the rest of the group is split fairly evenly between 7-8 and 8-9 guys, so no easy transition within. And now our 11-12 leader has been eclipsed so it looks like I will have to cut a decent starter to keep the chem intact. No free agent out there solves my problem.

I probably need to put a "lean" into my D7 players now, anticipating that before too long I'll need to go with a 7-8 or 8-9 leader. Just no good 11-12 guys on the horizon.
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Old 09-15-2020, 12:00 PM   #1330
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Ravens draft update, round two:



Baltimore: QuikSand takes ILB Wayne Lang with the 2.25 pick.

Run Defense56<->83
Pass Rush Technique36<->64
Pass Rush Strength
36<->64
Man-to-Man Defense
22<->50
Zone Defense49<->77
Bump-and-Run Defense42<->70
Play Diagnosis0<->28
Punishing Hitter34<->62
Endurance
64<->92
Special Teams
59<->87

HT
WT
RAW
ADJ
DASH
SOL
BENCH
AGI
BRJU
POS
%DEV
74
247
5.0
4.9
4.85
18
26
7.34
113
36
35


Scouts liked him as VU, so I moved in, reaching a bit. Looks like a jack of all trades, and about as dumb as a bag of hammers. Count me in.
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So, we re-signed our TE chem leader, nothing shocking but glad it wasn't difficult. He's unhappy but not angry, in FOF that makes all the difference.


And that's it. That's the udpate.


Oh, a draft pick in late round two... for some reason I am optimistic about this draft (for both teams) - knowing somewhere in the back of my mind that rarely ends well.


Anyway...




Washington: KickStand takes OLB Andrew Kinney with the 2.29 pick.

Run Defense31<->58
Pass Rush Technique72<->99
Pass Rush Strength5<->32
Man-to-Man Defense58<->84
Zone Defense25<->52
Bump-and-Run Defense47<->74
Play Diagnosis58<->84
Punishing Hitter24<->51
Endurance61<->87
Special Teams73<->99

HT
WT
RAW
ADJ
DASH
SOL
BENCH
AGI
BRJU
POS
%DEV
73
252
5.3
5.1
4.46
37
17
7.28
115
24
46




Our roster is awfully thin on actual dedicated pass rushers. DT Pascal played some DE last year and racked up 11 sacks, LB Welch played DE nearly full time and was great, and LB Sinclair is one of those one-trick-pony types, I'm not sure I want to trot him out there in more than the most obvious pass situations. (And Sinclair has a chem problem looming, he might be a force-cut due to his upside down #weakleader chemistry profile) Thus, we invest here in a guy who... well, might turn out to be a young Sinclair, hopefully a little more useful than that. And he's from Syracuse, so a homer pick.
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Ravens sign a rotation-worthy RB, he'll fit into the mix for this year, I think - has a good bar profile.

Our pursuit of game-changer OL free agents now seems to be behind us, without bearing fruit. With our first round OT in the fold, we should be okay short term - and I have a few more depth guys in the draft queue, though I don't think I can help myself with upcoming round four pick from taking a weird player at a non-need position...
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So, why draft this guy? We don't really need a WR. He has apparently rotten ratings. And the void at Route Running, the uber-rating for WR now in my book, appears to be a void.



Baltimore: QuikSand takes WR Tracy Tatum with the 4.25 pick.

Avoid Drops42<->71
Getting Downfield41<->69
Route Running0<->28
Third Down Catching31<->59
Big-Play Receiving20<->48
Courage21<->50
Adjust to Ball45<->74
Punt Returning19<->47
Kick Returning23<->51
Endurance15<->43
Special Teams23<->51

HT
WT
RAW
ADJ
DASH
SOL
BENCH
AGI
BRJU
POS
%DEV
72
200
4.2
4.3
4.45
25
14
6.96
128
68
14

Well, I see a guy who blew out the combines. Kept coming up atop my searches and lists. Have been watching him since round two. No clue what good he might be. Have a fantasy that he's just a scrappy, hard-working, tough-as-nails football player who will do whatever it takes to be our WR4 forever. (i.e. a white guy that the commentator likes)

We'll see.
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So, why draft this guy? We don't really need a WR. He has apparently rotten ratings. And the void at Route Running, the uber-rating for WR now in my book, appears to be a void.

http://gml.fof-belco.com/small/helmet2.png

Baltimore: QuikSand takes WR Tracy Tatum with the 4.25 pick.

Avoid Dropshttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/bluepic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.png42<->71
Getting Downfieldhttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/bluepic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.png41<->69
Route Runninghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/bluepic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.png0<->28
Third Down Catchinghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/bluepic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.png31<->59
Big-Play Receivinghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/bluepic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.png20<->48
Couragehttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/bluepic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.png21<->50
Adjust to Ballhttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/bluepic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.png45<->74
Punt Returninghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/bluepic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.png19<->47
Kick Returninghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/bluepic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.png23<->51
Endurancehttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/bluepic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.png15<->43
Special Teamshttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/bluepic.pnghttp://gml.fof-belco.com/greypic.png23<->51

HT
WT
RAW
ADJ
DASH
SOL
BENCH
AGI
BRJU
POS
%DEV
72
200
4.2
4.3
4.45
25
14
6.96
128
68
14

Well, I see a guy who blew out the combines. Kept coming up atop my searches and lists. Have been watching him since round two. No clue what good he might be. Have a fantasy that he's just a scrappy, hard-working, tough-as-nails football player who will do whatever it takes to be our WR4 forever. (i.e. a white guy that the commentator likes)

We'll see.


intriguing guy. if that 0 is not a 0 he's got a chance to climb to 50. i'll probably interview him for future reference
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Old 09-16-2020, 10:27 AM   #1335
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I am 100% down to waste a 4th round pick on a guy who registers as "intriguing" by big hitters. Even if he completely fails, it's interesting, and that is supposed to be a goal here.
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fwiw he was on my list right after the RB Ben took at 4.27. with both gone i had to get a....punter


at the very least the wr looks good as KR/PR/ST, 128 is not bad for BrJ
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he's gritty
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we signed a RB, in the mix

life intervenes, not sure when i'll get a real update
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:04 PM   #1339
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We missed out on S Chiba, let AVAILABLE outbid us, a classic no-no. Thought I had loaded up enough bonus to beat him, alas.

Still have work to do here and there.


My day got in the way of FOF today... so I let the drafting continue from my lists, no clue who we got for either team. I'll post stuff if anyone seems worthwhile. Meh.
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Another loaded day here. Tired and tipsy.

BAL - nothing exciting

WAS - had to go fat 1yr deal to re-sign FB Hackney but did; re-up S Reese and some moves to help DB group; signed WR/PR Snyder (89 PR)

meh

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Old 09-19-2020, 09:36 AM   #1341
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Okay, early free agency in the books, and drafted players are peekable...

Baltimore crowned as the 32nd best draft, that's really great. Conceptually, I felt okay keeping my picks, we'll see if that turned out to be the usual mistake...

32
BAL
QuikSand
1(25) RT T.J. Caver 31/62
2(25) MLB Wayne Lang 24/50
5(25) RT Ricky Garcia 19/43
7(25) RDE Giovanni Truong 17/41
1(25) RT T.J. Caver 31/62
2(25) MLB Wayne Lang 24/50
5(25) RT Ricky Garcia 19/43
7(25) RDE Giovanni Truong 17/41
50.9


...so, that's the BenBot assessment. Worthy of consideration.


For us, here's what I see on sneak peek:


6th round combine skipper QB Archie Bridges looks, to me, like a true find. Interesting bar profile. He doesn't even rate above, and that's worrisome, but he could be a viable run-around starter if what I see were legit. Must be an absolute pick machine.


WR Tatum looks okay, the RR is a true void so that's a ceiling, but he does look like a guy who might stick around and get some targets for a long time, if his personality merits it. He'd need to bump that RR off zero to be better than a WR4, though, and in a zero-injury league, little value there - even if he pops +10 from these ratings.


T TJ Caver looks as advertised, not an all-around stud, but an elite pass protector. I'm okay with that if he holds. Not maxed-out, though, but 44/98 should develop well enough. I'm okay with what I see now, even for a late first round pick.


T Garcia is pocket lint, correctly excluded from the "list of players" used for the analysis. 5th round pick dissolved.


DE Truong is an end-of-roster candidate, I actually prefer my DL to be 10/90 or 90/10 than 50/50, he projects to something like that last slot. Meh.


LB Wayne Lang looks like what I expected - solid but unspectacular at nearly everything, a void in play diagnosis. My scout said VU, and if that translates to a bump in preseason, this guy likely becomes an inside LB for us forever. Satisfied, even though he was a mild reach.




Nothing startling here... the most interesting angle is that the BenBot didn't even register my QB as a functioning human, while my scouts see him as pretty legit. Learning opportunity, I'll be prepared for bad news.
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Hrm, in clearing the chemistry path for our D7 group, I'd need to cut both DT Crawford and LB Thomas to get our chem anchor guy (DT Middleton) to reclaim the group lead. That sucks, I knew about part one, not part two.


...


drat
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Okay, a few free agent moves in the late stages - re-signed LB O'Neill and DE Wolfe, grabbed an OL chem factor (details TBA), and another would-be backup QB.


As for the rookie draft, BenBot is slightly kinder than with BAL, but really only mildly so...


24
WAS
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1(29) SLB Manuel Brew 38/59
2(29) SLB Andrew Kinney 26/50
3(29) RDT Julio Ackerman 27/51
5(29) RDT Erik Amari 19/55
1(29) SLB Manuel Brew 38/59
2(29) SLB Andrew Kinney 26/50
3(29) RDT Julio Ackerman 27/51
5(29) RDT Erik Amari 19/55
58.6



What I see with my scout's peeking is:


LB Brew looks as expected - should be a solid ILB from the get-go, with strong coverage skills and hopefully enough endurance to really be a 3-down guy, but at the least he's a solid asset


LB Kinney was grabbed as a pass rusher, I suspect he will be fine there, but might end up as a tweener slotted at OLB and playing there some, too. 37/82 PRTech is good but not great. End & ST strong. Real asset.


DT Ackerman is a single-skill guy, but looks like what I need there - adequate run-stopping NT. PH and PRStr say maybe he'll creep, that would of course be welcome. Okay with this as a 3rd rounder.


OT Poston looks like a T3 type of guy, in a normal league with injuries that's a fairly important position, here not so much. Unlikely to really break into a lineup for us. Meh.


DL Amari is a two-bar guy, right at the top: RD 13/62, PRTech 22/90. Hoping he develops like Espinosa from my Ravens, he has a very similar initial bar profile. Jury's out, need to see preseaon movement I think.


G Gunther looks like a longshot to make the team


S Cassell has a little bit to like, but getting starts seems hard, bubble at best




Not awful, but like BAL, no barn-burners.
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Old 09-19-2020, 01:26 PM   #1344
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WR Tatum looks okay, the RR is a true void so that's a ceiling, but he does look like a guy who might stick around and get some targets for a long time, if his personality merits it. He'd need to bump that RR off zero to be better than a WR4, though, and in a zero-injury league, little value there - even if he pops +10 from these ratings.


yep, he also looks like RR=0 to me. i think he'll pop, but he's certainly a package player that needs dedicated plays
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Chem dilemma in DC, with our DB group. Leader retired, no good options out there to replace him in his same sign, so I'm more or less resigned to switching to either a 7-8 or 8-9 leader. Both candidates are on the roster, but one needs a weight change and position switch, but I won't know until pre-camp (Monday's stage) whether it has a shot to work. If it does, he should be a really good 7-8 group leader for a long time. If not, then... he gets cut and we likely stick with S Reese (8-9 group, 82 Ldr, 91 Pers), who is not Grade A but is a solid B and talented enough to not be a roster drag.


With that said... approaching DB free agents is tough, as I think it's close to 50/50 whether we'll want 7-8 guys or 8-9 guys. Ugh.
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yep, he also looks like RR=0 to me. i think he'll pop, but he's certainly a package player that needs dedicated plays

i have plenty of weak sauce teams out there, past and present, where a "package player that needs dedicated plays" is a viable thing (for lack of real opportunity cost) but this team, right now... bad fit for him
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Chem dilemma in DC, with our DB group. Leader retired, no good options out there to replace him in his same sign, so I'm more or less resigned to switching to either a 7-8 or 8-9 leader. Both candidates are on the roster, but one needs a weight change and position switch, but I won't know until pre-camp (Monday's stage) whether it has a shot to work.

Fun twist... I opened up FOF this morning with a sense "I don't recall clicking to make that one guy on my DC team lose weight... oh dammit I fucked it up AGAIN..." - only to now realize that the league didn't do camp today, just the late free agency stage. I need to make him lose weight in today's stage. Hope writing this makes me remember...
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Ravens late free agency, some moves as always:


LG Roosevelt Carpenter
Late FA Stage 1
released


LT T.J. Caver
Late FA Stage 1
Changed position from RT to T


NT Kim Douglas
Late FA Stage 1
turned down a contract offer: 3yrs, $14,130,000.


RDE Broderick Bruce
Late FA Stage 1
signed as an unrestricted free agent from Kansas City: 2yrs, $8,020,000.


LS Brad McNeil
Late FA Stage 1
signed as a free agent: 2yrs, $5,500,000.


LS Marquis Bush
Late FA Stage 1
signed as a free agent: 1yrs, $3,000,000.


MLB Alonzo DiGiacomo
Late FA Stage 1
signed as a free agent: 2yrs, $5,460,000.


LDT Elias Dritlein
Late FA Stage 2
signed as an unrestricted free agent from Kansas City: 2yrs, $9,970,000.


QB Bo Wilhite
Late FA Stage 2
signed as a free agent: 2yrs, $6,670,000.


LS Evan Downs
Late FA Stage 2
signed as a free agent: 2yrs, $5,030,000.


RG Micah Coulter
Late FA Stage 2
turned down a contract offer: 1yrs, $3,400,000.


LCB Quentin Atkins
Late FA Stage 2
signed as a free agent: 2yrs, $5,030,000.


SE Rodolfo Hanley
Late FA Stage 3
re-signed as an unrestricted free agent


TE Alexander Huffman
Late FA Stage 3
re-signed as an unrestricted free agent


SILB John Duran
Late FA Stage 3
signed as a free agent: 2yrs, $10,000,000.


LS Jordan Henson
Late FA Stage 3
signed as a free agent: 2yrs, $5,500,000.


LT Mitch Boldin
Late FA Stage 3
signed as a free agent: 2yrs, $5,030,000.


LDE Jermaine Covey
Late FA Stage 3
signed as a free agent: 2yrs, $5,460,000.


Cutting G Carpenter was necessary evil - that poisonous mix of high leadership and low personality, not resolvable for him. Not sure what was the best thing to do, just cut him right away, or play him for three years and then do so. Alas, he gone, and our OL chem is now a glittering prize. (T Douglas as leader, 3x Exceptional, everyone clicking save the rookie Boldin as a potential)

Quick perusal through the remainder... we needed a long snapper, we signed four, natch... LB DiGiacomo has a promising bar profile... same for CB Atkins... QB Wilhite is yet another possible QB2 on a team with no need for one (much less four)...WR Hanley is back for $6m after I said it wouldn't happen...I exposed TE Huffman but got him back also for way less than his RFA request...LB Duran is the most immediate impact guy here, solid LB w standout ST skills and great chem

Cutdown starts with three long snappers, heh.
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Basically the same routine down here...


RB Ruben Reed
Late FA Stage 1
re-signed as an unrestricted free agent


TE Ted Norris
Late FA Stage 1
signed as a free agent: 2yrs, $5,030,000.


P Miles Kimsey
Late FA Stage 1
signed as a free agent: 1yrs, $8,000,000.


LCB Garrett Figures
Late FA Stage 1
signed as a free agent: 1yrs, $4,500,000.


RG Morris Mauriello
Late FA Stage 2
re-signed as an unrestricted free agent


WLB Desmond Villasenor
Late FA Stage 2
turned down a contract offer: 3yrs, $18,000,000.


RCB Rondell Boyer
Late FA Stage 2
signed as a free agent: 2yrs, $6,670,000.


SLB Tito Bray
Late FA Stage 2
signed as an unrestricted free agent from Carolina: 2yrs, $5,920,000.


P Antonio Roberts
Late FA Stage 2
signed as a free agent: 1yrs, $13,000,000.


RCB Taylor Franz
Late FA Stage 3
re-signed as an unrestricted free agent


RB Renaldo Wheeler
Late FA Stage 3
turned down a contract offer: 1yrs, $5,500,000.


RCB Demetrius Joseph
Late FA Stage 3
signed as an unrestricted free agent from Kansas City: 1yrs, $5,500,000.


RB Corbin Coates
Late FA Stage 3
signed as a free agent: 1yrs, $6,000,000.


So, I made a major mistake and left CB Franz to try free agency - fortunately we got him back with $9m/yr but that was more than the RFA deal required, dumbass oversight here... we also let RB Wheeler walk, and he got grabbed up by Atlanta (bad sign)... we'll have open tryouts for RB2 job now, but Wheeler should be that guy if I had just remembered to post up his requested RFA deal...nothing else exciting here I don't think

Big news - can 7th year LB Luke Arndt lose weight, in hopes of a conversion ft safety and a long future as our DB chemistry anchor? Drum roll... yes! Well, yes so far. He has gotten his instructions to trim down, we'll see if he makes it from 238 to whatever the convert-to-S threshold is. If so, he'll be a 94/99 guy from the 7-8 group that we can comfortably build around for a while. If not, he's a cut. Pretty simple, actually.

We're right at the 70-man limit (careful planning) so have some real pruning to do here for preseason.
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Ravens cutdown to 60 not very interesting, I don't think.

5QB should drop to at most 3... we just signed out starter for 5 more years, so we mainly just want chem, right? Gilliland clicked in w 87, Justin w 93. Rookie Bridges not yet with 84 and still-intriguing bars, and veteran Wilhite with 95 and no starts. A mess.

FB Hillhouse is locked in, FB Bryant is locked in as the chem gimp. So, of our 4 RBs, what 2-3 make the final roster? Allegretti is getting paid to do it all, and likely will again. RB2, then? Special teamer" Grooming to start after Allegretti? 4th year guy Slaten looks like the best fit - strong chem, has his starts, and good enough bars to play here and there.

Coupla long snappers, yeah... not interesting. Cuts to 53 may be.
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