Werewolf CXL - The Dark Knight Returns - GAME OVER

[saldana]

what exactly makes either of you so sure of yourself that you are voting nightfall.

im sorry, but that screams wolf to me...trying to basically start a run that cant be reversed so that you can get 2 more night kills tomorrow night. i know you both cant be bad, but i cant decide which one of you i should vote for

[saldana]

Originally Posted by J23

Vote Saldana

Vote nightfall

game's over anyway it appears.

this post makes no sense at all...there are two villans...there are 8 villagers, including batman...granted, some of who is left might still be deranged, but how is that game over?

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by saldana

this post makes no sense at all...there are two villans...there are 8 villagers, including batman...granted, some of who is left might still be deranged, but how is that game over?

I think it's 6-4, no?

[MrBug708]

2 deranged (assuming that Lathum and Sndvls were both vanilla, the later nearly 100% and Lathum, who knows) plus the two villains

[J23]

It's 8-2 at best at this point. Batman has offered nothing since night one when hoops was killed as the superhero wannabe other than a tiebreak if we get it to 1-1.

Voting records don't tell us much of anything unfortunately, especially with so many people following along the last 2 days. I've said I thought you were a wolf the last two days Saldana, I'm not sure why you'd think I'd change my tune.

[J23]

For the record, I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't 6-4 already. With the cops dead, I don't think we can win unless the wolves all forget to put in a nightkill order for a couple days.

[ntndeacon]

Saldana, I am not yet convinced on anyone, what about DT was pinging you.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Saldana, I am not yet convinced on anyone, what about DT was pinging you.

he is just playing the perfect UTR game, which totally suits this ruleset...i know i am not the most talkative player in the world, but its day 6 and DT has barely said a word the entire game. he is easily a good enough player to be two face and have engineered everything that has happened up to this point and done so in a manner that i forget he is even playing half the time

the biggest case against me is that i am still alive, which can also be said about him, and probably a couple others. the difference is, I am the one that suggested that two face would likely go after a hall of fame wolf list...J23 is using my own theory against me.

vote daddy torgo

[saldana]

Originally Posted by J23

For the record, I'd be pretty surprised if it wasn't 6-4 already. With the cops dead, I don't think we can win unless the wolves all forget to put in a nightkill order for a couple days.

this is extremely unlikely...just by random chance i would bet one of the lynches were deranged citizens since we lost the forensics officers

[Abe Sargent]

Was Listening To: Chicago, Mississippi Delta City Blues

Now Listening To: Schiller with Nadia Ali, Try

Next Up: Tom Jones feat Mousse T, Sex Bomb

[Chief Rum]

Dead here. And bored. You guys need to talk more.

[mauchow]

Hi ghost cr

[MrBug708]

It doesnt help when two players still here on day 6 have 10 and 13 posts respectively

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Dead here. And bored. You guys need to talk more.

Then: Crush, Jellyhead

Now: Wolfsheim, Find You're Here

Later: And One, Not the Only One



You are welcome!

[Autumn]

I have family visiting, so availability will be limited today. Not that you guys are giving me a lot t work with.

[J23]

Originally Posted by saldana

this is extremely unlikely...just by random chance i would bet one of the lynches were deranged citizens since we lost the forensics officers

I really doubt that Lathum was a deranged citizen based on CR saying he got a block and there being 1 night kill still. That means we're at 7-3 or at 6-4 depending on whether our last lynch was correct unless I'm missing something.

[J23]

Worse yet is that without more information (no kill results, no scans, etc), there's really nothing to discuss other than to give our "vibe" or for the wolves to chime in and give something away.

[Abe Sargent]

Because if I don't post this stuff, it looks like NO ONE WILL TALK. Crazy bastards



Then: Royksopp, True to Life

Now: Sunstroke Project, Summer (Radio Edit)

Later: The Brian Setzer Orchestra, Jump, Jive an' Wail

[ntndeacon]

Love me some Jump, Jive and Wail,!

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by saldana

he is just playing the perfect UTR game, which totally suits this ruleset...i know i am not the most talkative player in the world, but its day 6 and DT has barely said a word the entire game. he is easily a good enough player to be two face and have engineered everything that has happened up to this point and done so in a manner that i forget he is even playing half the time

the biggest case against me is that i am still alive, which can also be said about him, and probably a couple others. the difference is, I am the one that suggested that two face would likely go after a hall of fame wolf list...J23 is using my own theory against me.

vote daddy torgo

I am ok with this. He is as good as anyone else.
Vote DT

[Zinto]

This game got frustrating really quick and no I am not talking about there being no role reveals. It is the fact that everyone wants to vote and leave and not one villager has brought up anything new in days it seems like.

[J23]

What information can we bring up Zinto? We have one deranged citizen who was lynched, but all of one person knew he was bad in the game (2face). We have the 4 people that started as deranged citizens who knew who 2face was, and only know one of them to look at history on. Other than the scans which have been posted, there's really nothing else that we can go on aside from hunches.

[Zinto]

There is information to be brought up. Yesterday when everyone jumped on sndvls people should have moved off him. There was 0% chance he was two-face and had that many people vote for him.

[Zinto]

I am going back to reread the thread and hopefully I will have some more things to talk about.

[J23]

Originally Posted by Zinto

There is information to be brought up. Yesterday when everyone jumped on sndvls people should have moved off him. There was 0% chance he was two-face and had that many people vote for him.

I agree that he likely wasn't 2face, and didn't vote there (or Lathum the day before) for that reason. It's possible he was deranged as even the wolves wouldn't know he was one of them. This really is just a crapshoot at this point.

[Tyrith]

Originally Posted by Zinto

There is information to be brought up. Yesterday when everyone jumped on sndvls people should have moved off him. There was 0% chance he was two-face and had that many people vote for him.

Everyone jumped on him because he was the player the known good players voted for. If he was Two-Face, a deranged citizen has a choice, just like a normal WW game - join the bandwagon, or join in on the slaughter and not stick their head up.

The optimum play as non-roled, non-cleared villager is to add the weight of your vote to the people that are known to not be wolves - this stops the bad guys from getting to coordinate to swing the vote away from one of their own, if the known good guys have chosen correctly. What happened yesterday is exactly what should have happened in that situation.

The fact of the matter is that CR, mau, and yourself chose incorrectly. That's no sleight against any of you - it was pretty much a crapshoot, and I'm definitely not claiming I would have had any better chance to get a wolf. But it's false to say that the bandwagon was a sign of wolfish intent. It'd be more wolfish to try to swing a bandwagon away from the choice of the only trustable players without any evidence.

This does mean that my vote today was incorrect - I should have waited to see who you voted for and just followed your vote. I had just hoped we could potentially get through two days today, but it doesn't look like that is going to happen.

[saldana]

zinto, i am gonna be in and out all night, and will talk about whatever you want to discuss...the only way we are gonna find people to vote for is to try to stir shit up, unfortunately, my work isnt letting me to that this week or last...that is why i said the nightfall votes were a bad plan, not because they were for me (which is also a bad plan) but because we need to do something!

[Zinto]

Well I am going to vote for ntn. I honestly don't know at this point but I just don't like how much he has followed along. Honestly if DT or Packer are the wolves then I give up because they have said nothing and it is giving me a headache.

Vote ntn

[Zinto]

Honestly I am trying to figure out who it makes sense to night kill on night two. Sal is definitely a choice, along with DT, J23, and Tyrith. Was Tyrith scanned that is what I though had happened but I can't find anyone saying that he was now?

[MrBug708]

I'm sticking with my vote for the past two days,

Vote Packer Fan

[dzilla77]

Vote count:

Saldana (2) – Tyrith(1344), J23(1350)
DT (1) – ntn(1370)
Ntn (1) –Zinto(1378),
PackerFan (1) – Bug(1380)

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by saldana

he is just playing the perfect UTR game, which totally suits this ruleset...i know i am not the most talkative player in the world, but its day 6 and DT has barely said a word the entire game. he is easily a good enough player to be two face and have engineered everything that has happened up to this point and done so in a manner that i forget he is even playing half the time

the biggest case against me is that i am still alive, which can also be said about him, and probably a couple others. the difference is, I am the one that suggested that two face would likely go after a hall of fame wolf list...J23 is using my own theory against me.

vote daddy torgo

Is this like Usual Suspects and I'm Keyser Soze?

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

[MrBug708]

At this point, you have to assume that Batman is going to be targeted by one of the villains, probably two-face, for posterity

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE BATMAN

[DaddyTorgo]

UNVOTE BATMAN

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE TWO-FACE

[DaddyTorgo]

errr...can I do that?

UNVOTE TWO-FACE

[Autumn]

No. No, you can't.

[dzilla77]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

VOTE TWO-FACE

Damn - now why didn't we do this on day 1.

[Autumn]

Day 6
saldana - tyrith*, J23*
daddytorgo - saldana, ntndeacon
ntndeacon - zinto
packerfanatic - mrbug708

*nightfall

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE SALDANA

[Autumn]

I can't promise that night deadline will be written up right at ten--can't exactly walk out on the in-laws because of Werewolf. But Deadline still holds.

[MrBug708]

Maybe we can get an actual voting pattern here

unvote - PF

vote - Daddy Torgo

[Commo_Soldier]

Heading home now, won't get another chance to update.
vote Daddy Torgo

[Zinto]

Welp I am not feeling voting DT but I will.

Unvote ntn
Vote DT

[DaddyTorgo]

DON'T VOTE FOR ME...I'M TWO-FACE!!!!!

[dzilla77]

Somehow my vote didn't post

Vote DT

[MrBug708]

I like how Autumn thinks he has to be here for the deadline.

DaddyTorgo, you're dead. Night actions due by 11pm EST

[dzilla77]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I like how Autumn thinks he has to be here for the deadline.

DaddyTorgo, you're dead. Night actions due by 11pm EST

LOL.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I like how Autumn thinks he has to be here for the deadline.

DaddyTorgo, you're dead. Night actions due by 11pm EST

Nicely done, but I think Autumn uses a different font color.