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Old 04-10-2008, 05:52 PM   #1351
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Lathum, I asked this earlier but you never answered, is it possible that the ropes were cut by somebody not on the ship, or by somebody as they were leaving the ship?

Also:

Hoopsguy: You mentioned that you could do a good deed or a bad deed, are you willing to reveal what the bad deed would have been?

The choice was whether to help (or not to help) the elementary school teacher with a counting lesson. Once I agreed to help with the counting lesson I got my orders on how to post in the thread, starting with a one word post and proceeding up to a ten word post. Thus my flurry of post-deadline short posts yesterday.

I did receive notification on my "reward" for this. I'm not convinced that it has a ton of value (given the format of this game) but I guess it is better than a sharp stick in the eye.
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Old 04-10-2008, 05:54 PM   #1352
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woh. I have no idea what is going on at all. Can anybody recap?
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:00 PM   #1353
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woh. I have no idea what is going on at all. Can anybody recap?

BK and PB didn't make it back to the boat in time yesterday because they went slowly in their kayaks, but they are both back today after spending the night in a hotel.

SY was taken off by the police, there is a theory that it might have been because of evidence planted by the underground since Anxiety was approached by the underground today and was told if he chose not to join them (which is what he said he did), that they would frame him by planting evidence at a crime scene. SY is presumably back on the boat, now.

Swaggs was voted off by a large majority but he seems to have been innocent.

Lathum said he saw ropes cut, and people are wondering if he made this up as a ploy to give out wolf information in order to gain trust.

mccollins got stung by a stingray and is presently being cured by something ntndeacon found, i imagine.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:05 PM   #1354
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Hoops, do you think you can connect your choice to what Anxiety has put forth? For example, is there any reason to believe that had you made a different choice, that you would have been converted?
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:05 PM   #1355
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other people can feel free to expand on or add anything to that
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:10 PM   #1356
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I'm also curious if Passacaglia received anything and what he plans to do with it.

I received drugs. I'm open to suggestions.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:11 PM   #1357
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Hoops, do you think you can connect your choice to what Anxiety has put forth? For example, is there any reason to believe that had you made a different choice, that you would have been converted?

Well, I certainly wasn't under the impression that I was going to be blackmailed by the elementary school teacher. I was given a choice of helping or not helping.

I suspect the two options are pretty different. But who knows, if I stiffed the teacher then maybe a member of the underground would have seen it and been alerted I was a good candidate to contact? I honestly have no idea ... I took the choice I thought was most likely to ensure a "villager" result.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:12 PM   #1358
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I received drugs. I'm open to suggestions.

Do you know what they do?
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:14 PM   #1359
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I received drugs. I'm open to suggestions.

Well, you could use them to test the idea of "planting drugs" on someone. This is what I thought of when reading Swaggs' posts earlier today and Anxiety's stuff seems to validate that this is an option.

I'm wondering how that would work if the Police got a member of the Underground. I'm curious to see what Sonic Youth has to say for himself when he returns. There was nothing in his posts yesterday that remotely suggested he was blackmailed, so I'm of the opinion (for now, anyway) that he was not arrested by the Police for drug possession.

If he was, then there are at least three sets of drugs out there so far - the ones Swaggs had, the ones used to "trap" Sonic Youth, and the ones being used to threaten Anxiety.

BTW, sorry for hijacking your post that I quoted with a different train of thought ...
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:14 PM   #1360
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Do you know what they do?

Yes.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:15 PM   #1361
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Well, you could use them to test the idea of "planting drugs" on someone. This is what I thought of when reading Swaggs' posts earlier today and Anxiety's stuff seems to validate that this is an option.

I'm wondering how that would work if the Police got a member of the Underground. I'm curious to see what Sonic Youth has to say for himself when he returns. There was nothing in his posts yesterday that remotely suggested he was blackmailed, so I'm of the opinion (for now, anyway) that he was not arrested by the Police for drug possession.

If he was, then there are at least three sets of drugs out there so far - the ones Swaggs had, the ones used to "trap" Sonic Youth, and the ones being used to threaten Anxiety.

BTW, sorry for hijacking your post that I quoted with a different train of thought ...

Were drugs involved in Anxiety's story? These seem like two different plotlines.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:16 PM   #1362
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Well, Pass, I suggest either using them or passing them to somebody you trust.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:17 PM   #1363
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I think Anxiety said something like "scene of a crime" which does sound like a different plotline.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:17 PM   #1364
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Well, Pass, I suggest either using them or passing them to somebody you trust.

Right. I guess I'm still trying to figure out who that is.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:19 PM   #1365
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:35 PM   #1366
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Pass - if the drugs are what Swaggs said they are (a knockout agent), then I recommend using them, and I think it almost doesn't matter who you use them on. You can use them on me, if you want. What I'm thinking, is, it might be possible for the drugs to have a different use for wolves as opposed to villagers, in which case passing them around might be too risky.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:36 PM   #1367
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I think I'm going to pass the drugs (with a condition). Can I get a little vote for confidence from everyone? Maybe something like a 3-person list, and I'll give three points for a 1st place vote, 2 for a 2nd, 1 for 3rd, and whoever has the most points gets them. Sound fair?
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:38 PM   #1368
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Pass - if the drugs are what Swaggs said they are (a knockout agent), then I recommend using them, and I think it almost doesn't matter who you use them on. You can use them on me, if you want. What I'm thinking, is, it might be possible for the drugs to have a different use for wolves as opposed to villagers, in which case passing them around might be too risky.

Oh did Swaggs already say that's what they were? There goes my idea to wait a while before revealing that. Anyway, my thinking is to have the person I pass the drugs to use them on me.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:41 PM   #1369
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I think the whole point of passing them is to make it so the wolves don't KNOW who they were passed to. But somebody back on day 1 or 2 suggested that the wolves might have to collect certain items in order to win, that's why I'm suggesting using them instead of passing them. Unless destroying them is an option.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:42 PM   #1370
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I have no reason to believe the rope cutting story either.

I mean, we have your word, but you already admitted to lying about the heavy drinking / hangover.

Maybe that's how WW is played around here, but I don't like lying in the game at all.

I didn't lie about drinking heavily. I did.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:47 PM   #1371
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I also stayed on the boat today, I was to hungover from the day before to do much

this is the post where I said I stayed on the boat.

Please show me where I lied.

I never said I had no other options.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:49 PM   #1372
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dola- Making up a story about the ropes really makes no sense at all. It's not like I needed a reason to try and gain trust. It's pretty early to start playing games.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:49 PM   #1373
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wow, metro ride home, and there is lots of posting!

Yup, welcome to getting caught up. In about 3 hours we are going to find out if I am force converted, killed, wounded, attacked, escorted by the police, or whatever.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:50 PM   #1374
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dola- Making up a story about the ropes really makes no sense at all. It's not like I needed a reason to try and gain trust. It's pretty early to start playing games.

I agree with this, btw. I always find Lathum to be suspicious in a Lathum-y sorta way, but not on this.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:52 PM   #1375
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:53 PM   #1376
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dola- Making up a story about the ropes really makes no sense at all. It's not like I needed a reason to try and gain trust. It's pretty early to start playing games.

Day 4 isn't too early at all, IMO. It's just about right.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:56 PM   #1377
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Day 4 isn't too early at all, IMO. It's just about right.

maybe in an ordinary game but not one where no one has been killed/ lynched yet.


Why are you pushing this agenda so hard?
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:57 PM   #1378
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I think Lathum and Anxiety's stories are the entirety of known wolf activity, is that right?
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:58 PM   #1379
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Day 4 isn't too early at all, IMO. It's just about right.

It's really Day 3.
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Old 04-10-2008, 06:59 PM   #1380
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I think Lathum and Anxiety's stories are the entirety of known wolf activity, is that right?

Well, I don't want to authenticate Lathum;s story, because I have no way of knowing if he's right or wrong,but for my past, yes.

Let me go back to my pm since I have a few moments and see if I can pull anything else for you, before I die.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:01 PM   #1381
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Okay, looks like two men, one very large. They are "underground henchmen" and not necessarily underground themselves. One has a gun. Any questions before i load up a computer game?
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:01 PM   #1382
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I wasn't asking if it was true, I was asking if there was something I had missed. Path's absence, and the other stuff doesn't seem to be wolf-connected, or if it is, the connection is not obvious.

For my part, I think Lathum would make up that story IF the wolves thought that whoever had cut the ropes had been spotted.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:01 PM   #1383
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Oh, and they've pinned me in an ally off the streets while shopping.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:02 PM   #1384
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maybe in an ordinary game but not one where no one has been killed/ lynched yet.


Why are you pushing this agenda so hard?

I don't think I'm pushing this too hard at all. All I'm trying to find out is if anyone can verify your story. If so, great. If not, then you lied and we lynched Swaggs because of it and I think that would rightly put you under some suspicion.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:03 PM   #1385
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Dola, I shouldn't say definitely that you lied, because we know that both stories might have been true. But it would certainly look a lot better if anybody else either noticed the cut ropes or you fixing them.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:03 PM   #1386
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Alright, I'm back. Between the kayak trip where we got left behind and spent the night in the hotel to coming home from work IRL to find no power for three hours, I'm finally back.

I apparently watched television in my room and went swimming but saw nothing while you guys were on your trips.

Sitting back for a day, not posting and just reading/watching posts has been a bit enlightening and over the last twenty-four hours, there have been some plays that pinged my radar. I'm going to go through a couple more times tonight and see which are the strongest.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:04 PM   #1387
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It's really Day 3.

I'm an old man. I get confused.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:04 PM   #1388
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Anxiety, can you use your item of potency against them?
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:05 PM   #1389
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Alright, I'm back. Between the kayak trip where we got left behind and spent the night in the hotel to coming home from work IRL to find no power for three hours, I'm finally back.

I apparently watched television in my room and went swimming but saw nothing while you guys were on your trips.

Sitting back for a day, not posting and just reading/watching posts has been a bit enlightening and over the last twenty-four hours, there have been some plays that pinged my radar. I'm going to go through a couple more times tonight and see which are the strongest.

I'm very interested in this -- you're probably looking at it with a fresher perspective than the rest of us.
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Well, time to head home. Back later.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:07 PM   #1391
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Anxiety, can you use your item of potency against them?

No, I was specifically told I could not in my pm. Thus I passed it as soon as I got my pm, hoping to save it for our team. I will not tell to whom, and O hope that person does not volunteer that info. Ask mccollins who gave me half for verification, because he can tell you that it had the ptoential to be quite good.
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In fact, i suspect that it may be the most potent item we've found. If not, its up there.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:08 PM   #1393
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This is why my personal CoT has mccollins at the top. A wolf would not have let go of half of this.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:10 PM   #1394
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:13 PM   #1395
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I assumed that I needed to. it is done.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:16 PM   #1396
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BK and PB didn't make it back to the boat in time yesterday because they went slowly in their kayaks, but they are both back today after spending the night in a hotel.

SY was taken off by the police, there is a theory that it might have been because of evidence planted by the underground since Anxiety was approached by the underground today and was told if he chose not to join them (which is what he said he did), that they would frame him by planting evidence at a crime scene. SY is presumably back on the boat, now.

Swaggs was voted off by a large majority but he seems to have been innocent.

Lathum said he saw ropes cut, and people are wondering if he made this up as a ploy to give out wolf information in order to gain trust.

mccollins got stung by a stingray and is presently being cured by something ntndeacon found, i imagine.

Thanks! The Lathum thing is what the past few pages have been about, I guess. I thought it was sort of funny that Lathum was the first one to vote for Swaggs after I did.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:18 PM   #1397
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Yup, welcome to getting caught up. In about 3 hours we are going to find out if I am force converted, killed, wounded, attacked, escorted by the police, or whatever.

I wonder if the only way for the boat to leave is for someone to accept conversion
I think the boat couldn't leave because of Sonic Youth's arrest
I will think about this mild diversion
Until next turn when Anxiety's state will attest
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:20 PM   #1398
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Although, now that I've blown their cover, the best thing for the underground to do is not to do anything to me, let me go, and you guys will kill me suspecting that I've been force converted.
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Old 04-10-2008, 07:20 PM   #1399
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I will say this, after reading the whole thread today, I'm never voting for Taz because as an English teacher I'm enjoying watching him pull off the rhyming thing.
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Another thing on Lathum. Early on, he seemed to draw conclusions from some pretty shaky evidence (like saying he trusted st. cronin, etc.). What I'd like to know is why? I have some ideas why he would do this, but I don't want to throw them out there for him to pick one and roll with it.
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