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Danny · 04-10-2009, 08:48 PM

Good job PurdueBrad. Since you were the one with the mask, I think it's safe to assume MartinD was MartinD. Can we like nightfall this over the weekend, so that we can have a meaningful Monday.

PurdueBrad · 04-10-2009, 08:49 PM

Sorry guys (particularly wolves, hehe) but I was so excited, there was a double-fist pump and "YES!" yelled here.

Yes, yes, I'm a dork.

Danny · 04-10-2009, 08:50 PM

I see you guys are ahead of me.

Vote MartinD
Vote Nightfall

Danny · 04-10-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Sorry guys (particularly wolves, hehe) but I was so excited, there was a double-fist pump and "YES!" yelled here.

Yes, yes, I'm a dork.

LOL, you and CR have saved this game for us. We might have the upper hand now.

lerriuqs · 04-10-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by USFLTecmo

Two nights in a row? How odd.

I'm sure we had either a BG block or Drew hit one of the days, but IMO, if the wolves are doing this well at keeping us off balance, and we're not threatening any of them, they may well have decided not to make a kill, to confuse us. It's a tactic I've seen Lerriuqs use in the past, and it's not a tactic I've seen used around here in the few other games I've read through. I'm still not completely sold on him being a wolf, but I'm feeling a bit better about him being one after two straight nights of no kill.

Thanks Joe...You're a big help...

I'm not a wolf but thanks for asking. A no kill at this point makes no sense - there's no scoundrel to be concerned about, the seer is dead. We're acting totally confused and from the looks of the history of voting, haven't been all that close to threatening the wolves. It doesn't make sense to not kill someone like CR or Purdue Brad IMO - get rid of the revealed roles.

lerriuqs · 04-10-2009, 08:52 PM

VOTE MARTIN D
VOTE NIGHTFALL

Autumn · 04-10-2009, 08:54 PM

VOTE MARTIN D
VOTE NIGHTFALL

This seems like the thing to do. I'm not sure if there's an advantage to the nightfall, but I'll follow the crowd.

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Sorry guys (particularly wolves, hehe) but I was so excited, there was a double-fist pump and "YES!" yelled here.

Yes, yes, I'm a dork.

I saw that in the Dungeon game.

Danny · 04-10-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

VOTE MARTIN D
VOTE NIGHTFALL

This seems like the thing to do. I'm not sure if there's an advantage to the nightfall, but I'll follow the crowd.

Advantage is that we don't have to waste all day money by nightfalling before then.

Autumn · 04-10-2009, 08:56 PM

Oh I forgot the weekend was coming up. Okay, good call.

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

VOTE MARTIN D
VOTE NIGHTFALL

This seems like the thing to do. I'm not sure if there's an advantage to the nightfall, but I'll follow the crowd.

It may give us the weekend to parse votes, do analysis and such. No reason to extend the day, especially over three days, if there is no doubt as to its conclusion.

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 08:59 PM

2. Abe Sargent
5. USFLTecmo
8. lerriuqs
10. Chief Rum
11. Danny
14. PurdueBrad
15. MartinD
16. Barkeep49
17. Autumn
18. dubb93

I've marked virtually known wolves as red and good guys as blue. Gives us a good chance of wolf hunting on the next day.

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 09:00 PM

This also virtually clears BK in my mind. He was the one who pushed for UTR MartinD to get voted earlier in the game.

Danny · 04-10-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

This also virtually clears BK in my mind. He was the one who pushed for UTR MartinD to get voted earlier in the game.

That's true. I am curious to find out if MartinD is the brutal though.

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 09:02 PM

So here's my Trust List:

BK - Trusted
CR, PB - Completely Trusted
Autumn - Becoming Less Suspicious of
dubb, Danny, USFL, lerriuqs - Unknown

I suspect that I will want to look at those last four. To my mind, that is where the final wolves are hiding. You, of course, are free to add me and delete yourself from this conversation.

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

That's true. I am curious to find out if MartinD is the brutal though.

That's who I'd send out to do the killing.

Autumn · 04-10-2009, 09:05 PM

Is it likely they need to rotate who does the killings though?

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 09:07 PM

I've never seen that mechanic, but I wouldn;t be surprised by its existance

lerriuqs · 04-10-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lerriuqs

Thanks Joe...You're a big help...

I'm not a wolf but thanks for asking. A no kill at this point makes no sense - there's no scoundrel to be concerned about, the seer is dead. We're acting totally confused and from the looks of the history of voting, haven't been all that close to threatening the wolves. It doesn't make sense to not kill someone like CR or Purdue Brad IMO - get rid of the revealed roles.

I would also point out that I've done a very bad job of being a wolf in the past few hours as I apparently fingered two wolves on my way to the slaughterhouse...

Autumn · 04-10-2009, 09:11 PM

I think this does a lot to clear Lerriuqs as well. Martin cast a vote against him that at the time made it very likely Lerriuqs would get lynched.

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lerriuqs

I would also point out that I've done a very bad job of being a wolf in the past few hours as I apparently fingered two wolves on my way to the slaughterhouse...

BK sacrifices fellow wolves all of the time.

Autumn · 04-10-2009, 09:12 PM

Abe, so typically the wolves have to choose an attacker but there's no limit on who they can choose or how often? I'm just trying to get clear, both the other games i played had unusual rulesets.

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 09:12 PM

Does anyone have any feel at all on dubb?

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Abe, so typically the wolves have to choose an attacker but there's no limit on who they can choose or how often? I'm just trying to get clear, both the other games i played had unusual rulesets.

Generally, if a wolf gets caught, like happened with MartinD, with those rulesets, the wolves must choose someone to send out. In these cases, if there is a brutal, you'll see them go out, because if they get outed, at least they can take someone down with them.

Danny · 04-10-2009, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lerriuqs

I would also point out that I've done a very bad job of being a wolf in the past few hours as I apparently fingered two wolves on my way to the slaughterhouse...

Well, thinking you were going to be dead that's not entirely uncommon. But MartinD's vote for you looks better, but then again, I'm not so sure. That really depends on Autumn too.

Danny · 04-10-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Does anyone have any feel at all on dubb?

He's been wanting to kill BK and has been suspicious of Poli. He's been consistent, but kind of quiet overall.

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 09:15 PM

Hmmmm, you know, now that I think about it, perhaps it would be best to let MartinD lie right now, and vote someone else off the island? Since MartinD is likely the Brutal, I'd prefer we go in with the BG intact into the next night action.

lerriuqs · 04-10-2009, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Well, thinking you were going to be dead that's not entirely uncommon. But MartinD's vote for you looks better, but then again, I'm not so sure. That really depends on Autumn too.

See and I stay away from actual wolves - keep them out of the spotlight...

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 09:16 PM

Unvote Nightfall

Chief Rum · 04-10-2009, 09:16 PM

This night is...AWESOME!

Thanks, PB, fantastic save! Wow, what a great turn of events for the village.

We were on our heels, but we really just dealt a couple very stiff body blows.

Autumn · 04-10-2009, 09:16 PM

dubb has been pushing Barkeep for a long time. I suspect Barkeep is a villager, but I'm not sure why a wolf would feel the need to do this given how many villager candidates there have been to aim at. That's about all I've got on him.

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 09:17 PM

I want to talk about this.

Assumption - MartinD is Lumburgh. He will kill PB at lynch. We have lost our last roled character.

Our roles have found Pass and MartinD and Poli.

Without any roles, we could still lose this espeically with two wolves left, which is likely.

PurdueBrad · 04-10-2009, 09:18 PM

EF- If you can answer, is there a rotation dynamic in effect for the wolves doing the killing?

Autumn · 04-10-2009, 09:21 PM

Abe, it's a good point but what else would you suggest? Just never kill him?

EagleFan · 04-10-2009, 09:22 PM

Normal attack rules apply.

Barkeep49 · 04-10-2009, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Hmmmm, you know, now that I think about it, perhaps it would be best to let MartinD lie right now, and vote someone else off the island? Since MartinD is likely the Brutal, I'd prefer we go in with the BG intact into the next night action.

This is a horrible idea. Assuming it was 7-4 yesterday, it's now 7-3. Even if Martin is the brutal (which let's not jump to a conclusion about) it means it would be 6-2 and after a night kill 5-2. There is no reason, I feel, not to lynch a wolf in the hand. I too would love to get this over with this weekend so we can move the game along on Monday.

Vote Martin
Vote nightfall

PurdueBrad · 04-10-2009, 09:23 PM

If the wolves have the stapler, I may be in trouble anyway trying to pull a block.

Barkeep49 · 04-10-2009, 09:24 PM

DOLA:

Why are we convinced that Martin is the brutal?

Autumn · 04-10-2009, 09:26 PM

I'm certainly not convinced.

EagleFan · 04-10-2009, 09:27 PM

I will check back later to see the status of the nightfall vote. For those with night actions available please let me know what you would like to do in the night phase which follows and if that is your final decision for that move and I will process the night actions shortly after the lynch vote, if the nightfall vote passes.

Abe Sargent · 04-10-2009, 09:35 PM

I bet $10 that the wolves sent out their brutal to do the killings. But fine, since it's obvious that no one cares too much.

Vote Nightfall

With my fingers crossed

Autumn · 04-10-2009, 09:49 PM

What's our vote count now? Any chance this is going to go through tonight?

PurdueBrad · 04-10-2009, 09:50 PM

We also need to take some looks at Poli and Martin D's voting patterns.

Autumn · 04-10-2009, 10:03 PM

I looked at one or both of them. The fact that I can't quite remember tells me that I'm up too late.

So, I'll be off. I might not be on much or at all tomorrow, but I should be available Sunday to see what's happening.

PurdueBrad · 04-10-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Final Vote:

Autumn 5 - Abe Sargent (989), Lathum (993), PurdueBrad (996), Poli (1098), USFLTecmo (1132)
Lathum 7 - Barkeep49 (1036), Danny (1075), Autumn (1086), dubb93 (1087), lerriuqs (1096), MartinD (1115), Chief Rum (1146)

Results to follow shortly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Final vote count:

cartman 6 - Autumn (692), Barkeep49 (796), USFLTecmo (801), Chief Rum (834). lerriuqs (842), Abe Sargent (873)
Barkeep49 3 - dubb93 (761), Poli (852), The Jackal (858)
Autumn 5 - cartman (780), Danny (800), MartinD (808), PurdueBrad (859), Lathum (879)

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Final Votes

hoopsguy 6 - PurdueBrad (115), The Jackal (165), Chief Rum (284), claphamsa (285), Schmidty (345), Lathum (356)
claphamsa 5 - Passacaglia (158), Danny (181), Autumn (222), Abe Sargent (251). lerriuqs (294)
Abe Sargent 2 - Barkeep49 (109), USFLTecmo (139)
cartman 2 - MartinD (164), dubb93 (184)
The Jackal 1 - hoopsguy (108)
lerriuqs 1 - cartman (167)
Schmidty 1 - Poli (217)

Results to follow...

There are the three real (not including the Pass) votes.

PurdueBrad · 04-10-2009, 10:06 PM

dubb has voted with a wolf on all three of those, he's the only person but that could be simple bad luck.

PurdueBrad · 04-10-2009, 10:07 PM

Actually Danny has as well.

Autumn · 04-10-2009, 10:08 PM

I'm afraid the vote counts won't tell us much, since they're almost entirely for villagers. But looking through the thread tells a little about who each wolf was willing to push.

PurdueBrad · 04-10-2009, 10:08 PM

Actually, looking at this, Danny is the second vote on a good guy twice and if Autumn is good, that's a third time.

Autumn · 04-10-2009, 10:08 PM

My next vote is going to be between Abe, USFL, Danny and Dubb. So that's interesting to know.

04-10-2009, 08:59 PM	#1362
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	2. Abe Sargent 5. USFLTecmo 8. lerriuqs 10. Chief Rum 11. Danny 14. PurdueBrad 15. MartinD 16. Barkeep49 17. Autumn 18. dubb93 I've marked virtually known wolves as red and good guys as blue. Gives us a good chance of wolf hunting on the next day. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-10-2009, 09:00 PM	#1363
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	This also virtually clears BK in my mind. He was the one who pushed for UTR MartinD to get voted earlier in the game. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-10-2009, 09:02 PM	#1365
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	So here's my Trust List: BK - Trusted CR, PB - Completely Trusted Autumn - Becoming Less Suspicious of dubb, Danny, USFL, lerriuqs - Unknown I suspect that I will want to look at those last four. To my mind, that is where the final wolves are hiding. You, of course, are free to add me and delete yourself from this conversation. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-10-2009, 09:07 PM	#1368
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I've never seen that mechanic, but I wouldn;t be surprised by its existance __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-10-2009, 09:12 PM	#1373
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Does anyone have any feel at all on dubb? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-10-2009, 08:48 PM	#1351
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Good job PurdueBrad. Since you were the one with the mask, I think it's safe to assume MartinD was MartinD. Can we like nightfall this over the weekend, so that we can have a meaningful Monday.

04-10-2009, 08:49 PM	#1352
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Sorry guys (particularly wolves, hehe) but I was so excited, there was a double-fist pump and "YES!" yelled here. Yes, yes, I'm a dork.

04-10-2009, 08:50 PM	#1353
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I see you guys are ahead of me. Vote MartinD Vote Nightfall

04-10-2009, 08:52 PM	#1356
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	VOTE MARTIN D VOTE NIGHTFALL

04-10-2009, 08:54 PM	#1357
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	VOTE MARTIN D VOTE NIGHTFALL This seems like the thing to do. I'm not sure if there's an advantage to the nightfall, but I'll follow the crowd.

04-10-2009, 08:56 PM	#1360
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Oh I forgot the weekend was coming up. Okay, good call.

04-10-2009, 09:05 PM	#1367
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Is it likely they need to rotate who does the killings though?

04-10-2009, 09:11 PM	#1370
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I think this does a lot to clear Lerriuqs as well. Martin cast a vote against him that at the time made it very likely Lerriuqs would get lynched.

04-10-2009, 09:12 PM	#1372
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Abe, so typically the wolves have to choose an attacker but there's no limit on who they can choose or how often? I'm just trying to get clear, both the other games i played had unusual rulesets.

04-10-2009, 09:15 PM	#1377
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Hmmmm, you know, now that I think about it, perhaps it would be best to let MartinD lie right now, and vote someone else off the island? Since MartinD is likely the Brutal, I'd prefer we go in with the BG intact into the next night action. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-10-2009, 09:16 PM	#1379
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Unvote Nightfall __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-10-2009, 09:16 PM	#1380
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	This night is...AWESOME! Thanks, PB, fantastic save! Wow, what a great turn of events for the village. We were on our heels, but we really just dealt a couple very stiff body blows. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-10-2009, 09:16 PM	#1381
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	dubb has been pushing Barkeep for a long time. I suspect Barkeep is a villager, but I'm not sure why a wolf would feel the need to do this given how many villager candidates there have been to aim at. That's about all I've got on him.

04-10-2009, 09:17 PM	#1382
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I want to talk about this. Assumption - MartinD is Lumburgh. He will kill PB at lynch. We have lost our last roled character. Our roles have found Pass and MartinD and Poli. Without any roles, we could still lose this espeically with two wolves left, which is likely. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-10-2009, 09:18 PM	#1383
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	EF- If you can answer, is there a rotation dynamic in effect for the wolves doing the killing?

04-10-2009, 09:21 PM	#1384
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Abe, it's a good point but what else would you suggest? Just never kill him?

04-10-2009, 09:22 PM	#1385
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Normal attack rules apply.

04-10-2009, 09:23 PM	#1387
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	If the wolves have the stapler, I may be in trouble anyway trying to pull a block.

04-10-2009, 09:24 PM	#1388
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	DOLA: Why are we convinced that Martin is the brutal?

04-10-2009, 09:26 PM	#1389
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I'm certainly not convinced.

04-10-2009, 09:27 PM	#1390
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I will check back later to see the status of the nightfall vote. For those with night actions available please let me know what you would like to do in the night phase which follows and if that is your final decision for that move and I will process the night actions shortly after the lynch vote, if the nightfall vote passes.

04-10-2009, 09:35 PM	#1391
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I bet $10 that the wolves sent out their brutal to do the killings. But fine, since it's obvious that no one cares too much. Vote Nightfall With my fingers crossed __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

04-10-2009, 09:49 PM	#1392
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	What's our vote count now? Any chance this is going to go through tonight?

04-10-2009, 09:50 PM	#1393
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	We also need to take some looks at Poli and Martin D's voting patterns.

04-10-2009, 10:03 PM	#1394
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I looked at one or both of them. The fact that I can't quite remember tells me that I'm up too late. So, I'll be off. I might not be on much or at all tomorrow, but I should be available Sunday to see what's happening.

04-10-2009, 10:06 PM	#1396
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	dubb has voted with a wolf on all three of those, he's the only person but that could be simple bad luck.

04-10-2009, 10:07 PM	#1397
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Actually Danny has as well.

04-10-2009, 10:08 PM	#1398
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I'm afraid the vote counts won't tell us much, since they're almost entirely for villagers. But looking through the thread tells a little about who each wolf was willing to push.

04-10-2009, 10:08 PM	#1399
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Actually, looking at this, Danny is the second vote on a good guy twice and if Autumn is good, that's a third time.

04-10-2009, 10:08 PM	#1400
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	My next vote is going to be between Abe, USFL, Danny and Dubb. So that's interesting to know.