Werewolf XXVI: The Thing - GAME OVER! THINGS WIN!!!

[Barkeep49]

Hmm. So I'm wondering if it makes sense TO test CW's supposed scan. This assumes he's not already a shitface.

If we agree to basically test whoever CW scans each day the shitfaces have no incentive to target CW since if we ever found him lying we would then test him with the second testing.

Now some sort of other situation would come up, but essentially it would allow us to clear 2 people each day with 1 test, or else indite 2 people.

[Barkeep49]

Ok thinking about this further, it doesn't neceassarily mean we would know CW was a shitface, as he could turn over a shitface even if he was one, BUT it would keep him honest which in and of itself is useful.

[Blade6119]

No, because the second we do that and announce it at all, they will avoid CW and likely scans like the plauge

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

No, because the second we do that and announce it at all, they will avoid CW and likely scans like the plauge

What do you mean likely scans? CW could pick the name out of a fucking hat for that matter.

[hoopsguy]

In regards to the player list, I had put it up last night to try and remind CW of what facts we have compiled as he was working through his decision on who to view.

I don't think it is the best way to present the data, because of the diminshing value of information, but I do think that it is nice to have a record of what has happened. Particularly as the game stretches out ... we have already been playing this over a week and we are only on Day 4.

I'll mess around with this over the weekend to try and come up with a way of representing it that accounts for risk.

In terms of testing the guy that CW points to:
1.) absolutely if he says someone is a Thing. Because one of those two is
2.) not so sure if he says someone is clean. I don't think we necessarily absolve the guy because CW says he is clean, but automatically testing the guy allows the Things to try and take advantage of our play. For starters, it incents them to convert CW and have him declare a new person "clean" every night.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

In regards to the player list, I had put it up last night to try and remind CW of what facts we have compiled as he was working through his decision on who to view.

I don't think it is the best way to present the data, because of the diminshing value of information, but I do think that it is nice to have a record of what has happened. Particularly as the game stretches out ... we have already been playing this over a week and we are only on Day 4.

I'll mess around with this over the weekend to try and come up with a way of representing it that accounts for risk.

In terms of testing the guy that CW points to:
1.) absolutely if he says someone is a Thing. Because one of those two is
2.) not so sure if he says someone is clean. I don't think we necessarily absolve the guy because CW says he is clean, but automatically testing the guy allows the Things to try and take advantage of our play. For starters, it incents them to convert CW and have him declare a new person "clean" every night.

Basically that post said nothing...no joke

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Tell me we're not gonna go through this shit again.

I was not converted last night. Trust me today. Just once. Pretty please.

I'm sorry that more didn't believe you. It was quite frustrating yesterday. The fact was that no one came up with a truly viable scenario that said you and I were Things. That being said, isn't what you wrote what you would write had you been converted?

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Basically that post said nothing...no joke

Are you really serious?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

This kills the theory for me. If I recall correctly, Barkeep pretty well made his intentions clear from the outset that he was killing someone the first night and then he killed someone the first night.

It would take pure, 100% brass balls to pull off that kind of action when there is like a 95% chance that there is another hunter still alive.

Actually i highly disagree...the odds of their being another hunter were quite slim. Its not a role you often find in WW. Now, the way they were written up makes me think he killed a thing, regardless of what he was(thing on thing crime would be hilarious). But i think 95% is more like 15-20%

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I'm sorry that more didn't believe you. It was quite frustrating yesterday. The fact was that no one came up with a truly viable scenario that said you and I were Things. That being said, isn't what you wrote what you would write had you been converted?

Are you serious? RA, my friend, are you on crack? Our scenarios made far more sense then anything you could come up with...hence why CW got tested...not becuase we couldnt think of a reason

[path12]

Personally, I'm thinking it's likely (but for sure not certain) that CW was not converted last night -- I don't see how that's a percentage play for the things since nobody knows if there's a bodyguard around, because if one is it's likely they were guarding him last night (or they should have been). That said, I'm leaning 75% that Cronin is clean for now.

Though as was brought up yesterday, I guess he could have been converted after CW's scan, right? Shit.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Are you really serious?

Dead serious...he says first the list he made that swaggs improved was just to help barkeep(yay), talks about how long this game is, then about CW says test him if he comes up dirty, but dont not test if he says clean...but dont test him, but dont not test him...very nothingy(word?)

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Are you serious? RA, my friend, are you on crack? Our scenarios made far more sense then anything you could come up with...hence why CW got tested...not becuase we couldnt think of a reason

Maybe I am on crack.

No, I think that perhaps my viewpoint was biased because I know I'm a scientist. I did get you to admit you were wrong yesterday, though, so my work here is done.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Are you serious? RA, my friend, are you on crack? Our scenarios made far more sense then anything you could come up with...hence why CW got tested...not becuase we couldnt think of a reason

Blade's right. As I mentioned late yesterday a couple of times, I was more than willing to switch if there had been another logical candidate. There was not a better theory out there that I could buy into except the Cronin one, but that was too late for my vote.

[WVUFAN]

They won't go after CW -- they'll go after someone less conspicious.

VOTE ANXIETY

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Actually i highly disagree...the odds of their being another hunter were quite slim. Its not a role you often find in WW. Now, the way they were written up makes me think he killed a thing, regardless of what he was(thing on thing crime would be hilarious). But i think 95% is more like 15-20%

Now we know it didn't happen but fuck man don't you think if I were a shitface that I would be worried about scanning? And that role we fucking expect to be in the game. But then again I had nothing to fucking fear.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

They won't go after CW -- they'll go after someone less conspicious.

VOTE ANXIETY

Oh you mean like you?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Dead serious...he says first the list he made that swaggs improved was just to help barkeep(yay), talks about how long this game is, then about CW says test him if he comes up dirty, but dont not test if he says clean...but dont test him, but dont not test him...very nothingy(word?)

I don't think he said anything of that sort.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Now we know it didn't happen but fuck man don't you think if I were a shitface that I would be worried about scanning? And that role we fucking expect to be in the game. But then again I had nothing to fucking fear.

And still don't for that matter.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Now we know it didn't happen but fuck man don't you think if I were a shitface that I would be worried about scanning? And that role we fucking expect to be in the game. But then again I had nothing to fucking fear.

Shit bro, i just cant fucking decide. Like fuck man...You wouldnt show you were worried if you were a shitface...so fuck if i fucking know, you fucking get what the hell im trying to say with this shit?

See, i can play along too bk

[WVUFAN]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Oh you mean like you?

If you feel that way, you should vote to test me. Again, if you want to waste a vote, I'm fine with being tested.

However, I've not been conspicious this game.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

If you feel that way, you should vote to test me. Again, if you want to waste a vote, I'm fine with being tested.

However, I've not been conspicious this game.

Right. You wanted someone who was UTR like Anxiety. And I'm saying the guy who doesn't fucking vote for two days seems pretty UTR to me. Just saying yo.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

However, I've not been conspicious this game.

To be honest, thats the exact reason i suspect you but havent acted. Normally you are dead quiet and contribute about as much as you posted...this game, after the early absence, you have been a rather integral part of the game. Im not sure if i should celebrate your coming out party, or fear your change in character.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Swaggs do you think there's an original shitface out there? Cause I don't see how at this point the chart does any good if we're looking for a convert. Now if you think there's an original out there it's suddenly very useful.

I am leaning towards them beginning with just two guys because that makes more sense from a balance standpoint. Realistically, we got crazyass lucky killing two in the first two days. I think the chart is useful because it tracks what we knew at certain snapshots in the game, it allows us to not forget the quiet players, and, most importantly, if we see a dramatic change in persona, we can track some things.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Right. You wanted someone who was UTR like Anxiety. And I'm saying the guy who doesn't fucking vote for two days seems pretty UTR to me. Just saying yo.

Yo, i disagree...under the radar is someone like anxiety or swaggs...who votes, but is quiet...not voting twice in a row puts you on peoples radar.

Tell me without looking who swaggs voted for two days ago...but you can tell me who WVU didnt vote for...

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Actually i highly disagree...the odds of their being another hunter were quite slim. Its not a role you often find in WW. Now, the way they were written up makes me think he killed a thing, regardless of what he was(thing on thing crime would be hilarious). But i think 95% is more like 15-20%

You highly disagree with me or with Anxiety?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

You highly disagree with me or with Anxiety?

Whoever said they it would take balls of steel

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Yo, i disagree...under the radar is someone like anxiety or swaggs...who votes, but is quiet...not voting twice in a row puts you on peoples radar.

Tell me without looking who swaggs voted for two days ago...but you can tell me who WVU didnt vote for...

I can tell you who who anxiety didn't vote for too but I get your point.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Whoever said they it would take balls of steel

Listen cumguzzler you want a peek at my balls of steel? Cause they're there and they're as shiny as the look on of a boy's face on prom night.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

Whoever said they it would take balls of steel

Well, I think you are wrong then. If Barkeep pretends to be the hunter when he is not, and there is a real hunter, then he is nailed. I don't see any two ways about that. If I were the hunter and someone else claimed my role, I would kill his ass that night, since I knew he was lying.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Listen cumguzzler you want a peek at my balls of steel? Cause they're there and they're as shiny as the look on of a boy's face on prom night.

Ummm, im not quite sure why your soo apt to show another dude your balls, but i think its high time i started locking my door at night. I doubt you killed qwik, you prob. started molesting him and he blew himself up since that would be better. Sick fuck

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Well, I think you are wrong then. If Barkeep pretends to be the hunter when he is not, and there is a real hunter, then he is nailed. I don't see any two ways about that. If I were the hunter and someone else claimed my role, I would kill his ass that night, since I knew he was lying.

We could have more then 1 hunter(it has happened before), its likely to me that there would be no hunters(so if he was lying no one would know), and you would assume their might be different variations of your role.

Now barkeep never told us what his role was called(which worries me) since CW did and both did role reveals. Its worth watching if you ask me. But so is any veteran player, including myself

[Blade6119]

dola, scratch veteran...pretty much anyone could screw us right now

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

We could have more then 1 hunter(it has happened before), its likely to me that there would be no hunters(so if he was lying no one would know), and you would assume their might be different variations of your role.

Now barkeep never told us what his role was called(which worries me) since CW did and both did role reveals. Its worth watching if you ask me. But so is any veteran player, including myself

I say it fulls under the fucking no PM reveal protocol. I'm just trying to play by the motherfucking rules.

Schmidty: are people allowed to reveal the name of their role without violating your no PM discussion rule?

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by WVUFAN

They won't go after CW -- they'll go after someone less conspicious.

VOTE ANXIETY

My first vote. I feel like part of the group now. Thanks WVUFan!!! I figured you just wanted to vote for a fellow alum and all.

-Anxiety

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I say it fulls under the fucking no PM reveal protocol. I'm just trying to play by the motherfucking rules.

Schmidty: are people allowed to reveal the name of their role without violating your no PM discussion rule?

If not, then CW needs to go back and edit his. Just wondering, as one player put it out there and schmidty made no mention.

[Blade6119]

Anywho, who makes the best conversion target last night if you assume CW is protected. Id say raiders or a quiet player. They now can start looking numbers if you ask me, so i say we follow. Any thoughts?

[Swaggs]

the odds of their being another hunter were quite slim. Its not a role you often find in WW.

We could have more then 1 hunter(it has happened before), its likely to me that there would be no hunters(so if he was lying no one would know), and you would assume their might be different variations of your role.

I guess if you throw enough shit against the wall, some of it is bound to stick.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I guess if you throw enough shit against the wall, some of it is bound to stick.

You know, thats actually a rather true statement ive found. But hey, if you want to attack play styles im happy to oblige and begin a flame war. You should know that by now

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

If not, then CW needs to go back and edit his. Just wondering, as one player put it out there and schmidty made no mention.

Honestly how useful was his role reveal to you? I mean it seems like a stupid thing to get hung up on.

[Abe Sargent]

If I were a Thing, I'd have to be an original Thing, because I'd be a woefully bad convert. I'd have no strategy or experience to impart as I'm a greenhorn. Additionally, if they wanted to convert an UTR sorta guy, they'd have better skilled players than I.

So, you have to ask yourself, is Anxiety an original? Thing that is If not, then you probably want to vote elsewhere. If so, send them on over here.


By the way. I will NOT give the typical whine "Vote for me if you want to, I don't care, but you are wasting a day...." That whine is annoying. Quick, Hoopsguy, tell us how many times someone has used that line in this game so far.


-Anxiety

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

You know, thats actually a rather true statement ive found. But hey, if you want to attack play styles im happy to oblige and begin a flame war. You should know that by now

Listen Blade you damn well know that when you start throwing shit that some of the neighbors aren't going to think "Free fertilizer". They're going to call the cops. Some of us have no problem with your style of play but really I am amazed that you still feel the need to get so defensive about it when questioned.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I say it fulls under the fucking no PM reveal protocol. I'm just trying to play by the motherfucking rules.

Schmidty: are people allowed to reveal the name of their role without violating your no PM discussion rule?

Revealing the name of your role (or making up a name) is fine as long as specific word-for-word parts of the PM are not discussed. If someone wants to take the risk of revealing their role, then that should be their right.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Honestly how useful was his role reveal to you? I mean it seems like a stupid thing to get hung up on.

I found it suspicious due to the timing, but now thats its proven true there are parts that can be compared to better clear you in my, and maybe other peoples minds and focus on things. Trying to use all the avenues available to us

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

If I were a Thing, I'd have to be an original Thing, because I'd be a woefully bad convert. I'd have no strategy or experience to impart as I'm a greenhorn. Additionally, if they wanted to convert an UTR sorta guy, they'd have better skilled players than I.

So, you have to ask yourself, is Anxiety an original? Thing that is If not, then you probably want to vote elsewhere. If so, send them on over here.


By the way. I will NOT give the typical whine "Vote for me if you want to, I don't care, but you are wasting a day...." That whine is annoying. Quick, Hoopsguy, tell us how many times someone has used that line in this game so far.


-Anxiety

When WVU and I were playing wolves together I loved having somebody who didn't know the ins and outs of the game as it made it easy for them to go UTR. When I did get killed WVU coasted to an easy victory. So I don't think converting somebody with no sense of the game is a bad move.

[Swaggs]

I'm not attacking your play style and if you want to threaten me with a flame war, I'll happily and permanently put you on ignore (even though I tend to ignore most of what you throw out in this game anyway).

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I found it suspicious due to the timing, but now thats its proven true there are parts that can be compared to better clear you in my, and maybe other peoples minds and focus on things. Trying to use all the avenues available to us

Fair enough. My role is called ex-marine.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

When WVU and I were playing wolves together I loved having somebody who didn't know the ins and outs of the game as it made it easy for them to go UTR. When I did get killed WVU coasted to an easy victory. So I don't think converting somebody with no sense of the game is a bad move.

Fair enough then. My lack of experience showing through, so you may be right. I may be crazy. But, it just may be a lunatic you're looking for.


-Anxiety

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Listen cumguzzler you want a peek at my balls of steel? Cause they're there and they're as shiny as the look on of a boy's face on prom night.

LOL! Nice!

[Barkeep49]

Ok I am out for the night. Be back around 11 eastern.