WW IL - Do Werewolves Dream of Electric Sheep? Game Over, page 36

[LoneStarGirl]

Wow, this is interesting. Makes for an easy vote today.

vote barkeep

[Chief Rum]

Some things to take from this. Barkeep didn't go out killing on Night Three. But twothree said he saw two killers that night, and I saw two killers tonight. I also watched over Barkeep on Night One, and he didn't go killing then. So we can be pretty sure we haven't lucked into killing a Replicant with our votes, if we figure at least three of them in the game. Which means three are very likely still alive, even as we speak (it's conceivable Swaggs was one, and Barkeep was one of the killers tonight to get to two, but that's a small chance).

st. cronin also did not meet anyone on Night Two. So if he was the other Bladerunner, he chose not to do anything that night. It would have been his scan night (assuming he is opposite of twothree). Why would he not do anything?

My guess is that st. cronin was actually not a Replicant as has been suggested. So I would look very closely at Lathum right now. Because he said st. cronin visited him on Night One.

st. cronin did place Lathum in his circle of trust prior to his death, but this was when Replicant scans were being revealed. Lathum was a later "reveal" and basically repeated the same story as st. cronin to gain trust.

Incidentally, that also supposedly put Telle in doubt (the difference between her story and st. cronin's) but I have no doubt twothree is good, and he and Telle essentially vouch for one another. Which means I believe Telle's story. Since I also believe st. cronin's story (he was killed by the Replicants after all), that means we have to accept they got different info. St. cronin did get both player and role information. Telle did just get player information, but not role.

I think the Deckard being experienced theory is probably the best explanation for this.

Between myself, twothree, Telle and st. cronin, we should be able to put together some very likely candidates for the last Replicant spots after Barkeep. My gut says Lathum, and then one of any of ntndeacon, Alan T and LSG.

[Chief Rum]

Misposted. I mean, my guess is st. cronin was not a Bladerunner.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Some things to take from this. Barkeep didn't go out killing on Night Three. But twothree said he saw two killers that night, and I saw two killers tonight. I also watched over Barkeep on Night One, and he didn't go killing then. So we can be pretty sure we haven't lucked into killing a Replicant with our votes, if we figure at least three of them in the game. Which means three are very likely still alive, even as we speak (it's conceivable Swaggs was one, and Barkeep was one of the killers tonight to get to two, but that's a small chance).

st. cronin also did not meet anyone on Night Two. So if he was the other Bladerunner, he chose not to do anything that night. It would have been his scan night (assuming he is opposite of twothree). Why would he not do anything?

My guess is that st. cronin was actually not a Replicant as has been suggested. So I would look very closely at Lathum right now. Because he said st. cronin visited him on Night One.

st. cronin did place Lathum in his circle of trust prior to his death, but this was when Replicant scans were being revealed. Lathum was a later "reveal" and basically repeated the same story as st. cronin to gain trust.

Incidentally, that also supposedly put Telle in doubt (the difference between her story and st. cronin's) but I have no doubt twothree is good, and he and Telle essentially vouch for one another. Which means I believe Telle's story. Since I also believe st. cronin's story (he was killed by the Replicants after all), that means we have to accept they got different info. St. cronin did get both player and role information. Telle did just get player information, but not role.

I think the Deckard being experienced theory is probably the best explanation for this.

Between myself, twothree, Telle and st. cronin, we should be able to put together some very likely candidates for the last Replicant spots after Barkeep. My gut says Lathum, and then one of any of ntndeacon, Alan T and LSG.

I still feel really strongly that LSG is bad, and if Lathum ends up being bad after my flip flopping on him so many times, I'll cry, but wouldn't doubt it.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I still feel really strongly that LSG is bad, and if Lathum ends up being bad after my flip flopping on him so many times, I'll cry, but wouldn't doubt it.

My feeling on you, LSG and ntndeacon is really mostly based on a lack of corroboration or evidence to support your goodness, not on any positive evidence of badness. I am hoping an analysis of the voting will reveal some tendencies that will point some things out for us. I feel much stronger on Lathum than any of you three.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

My feeling on you, LSG and ntndeacon is really mostly based on a lack of corroboration or evidence to support your goodness, not on any positive evidence of badness. I am hoping an analysis of the voting will reveal some tendencies that will point some things out for us. I feel much stronger on Lathum than any of you three.

My feel about lSG has nothing to do with the votng.. to be fair, I still don't know if any of the people voted off are good or bad, so what can you compare the voting to? All I can go on is what people have revealed, and even half of that seems to be in question, I just have to figure out which half.

[Lathum]

Explain to me how you can possibly think i am bad after Cronin was killed after clearing me? Cronin scanned me night one, no one has disputed this. How can you possibly think I am a replicant?

[path12]

Wow. Lots going on. I need to mull this over as soon as I finish Harry Potter.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Explain to me how you can possibly think i am bad after Cronin was killed after clearing me? Cronin scanned me night one, no one has disputed this. How can you possibly think I am a replicant?

Sure. Let's go over your posts, so your lies will be fully revealed.

Originally Posted by Lathum

OK, sorry for the delay. I was catching up and eating.

I was scanned last night and learned the player who scanned me AND that the player was Holden as well.

Telle is lying unless it's possible for both Deckard and Holden to scan people and Deckard not to be found out.

I think it more likely she was either scanned last night by Deckard and not killed or Deckard attempted a kill on her.

2 scans a night seems high but considering the no role reveal there needs to be a balance somewhere and that may be it, as well as learning the scanners identity since that would make it easier to build a COT, even though it would have to be private.

I agree AE needs to go and probably swaggs but right now Telle should go first since she is lying and then we breach the AE/ Swaggs subject.

VOTE TELLE

Here is your "scan reveal" post made on Day Three. Of course, it was made well after Telle and st. cronin came out, so the differences between them was already apparent before you posted. So you could pick and choose which way you wanted to go.

Note for future reference that in this post you say you were scanned "last night", which is Night Two. You also say you were scanned by Holden, whom st.cronin, a known good player, said scanned him on Night One. Twothree, who is vouched for by being attacked by replicants, says he can only scan or kill on alternate nights. So st. cronin then , the good guy, is lying about Holden scanning him Night One, and you're telling the truth about Night Two? What would you believe if you were me?

You also vote for Telle, whom was scanned by twothree, a known good guy, and whom has been vouched for by him.

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Ok, I assume Swaggs is going to survive the night, and get lynched tomorrow. I also assume the night target will NOT be one of the following, as the replicants will be hunting for a seer:

st.cronin
Lathum
Telle

Those three are the only ones remotely inside my cot at this point, other than actual Holden, who I obviously won't name.

I'm looking forward to hearing more from Barkeep tomorrow, would love to know his thoughts.

Here is st. cronin's much referred to COT post, which he made late on Day Three. He once again reiterates he is not a Bladerunner, but was scanned by one Night One, and that BR was Holden. He puts himself, you and Telle in his COT only because of the seer reveals, which I will soon show to be a falsehood, at least on your part.

At no point does st.cronin say he is a BR. The concept of him being a BR doesn't come up at all until the next day when Barkeep does his "reveal". Which was a total fake. Barkeep was the first to offer up any evidence st. cronin was a BR, and he's lying.

Originally Posted by tanglewood

More grim news it seems. This morning st.cronin was found in an absolutely brutal condition on the street by an abandoned apartment complex. The replicants continue their wave of murder.

Day 4 deadline is 9pm EST

Here of course is the result of Night Three. You have yet to say you were scanned by st. cronin. Of couse. Fortunate for you he is already dead, huh? But you claim he "cleared" you. No. He only offered up a theory including you in a COT based on your seer reveal. Which you lied about.

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Just reread my PM to see about this. No I don't know that. No clue if he was Decker or Holden. However, I didn't read the original PM carefully. Here's the order of events, with the new info I noticed in bold.

1. cronin comes to see me
2. cronin performs test
3. cronin leaves
4. I hear a loud crash and see cronin's body and that of another figure
5. Other figure and I exchange gun fire
6. Other figure escapes.

I thought it was the gunfire I heard but it was the body. That could explain the mangling.

Here is Barkeep's main post outlining what he claims happened with st. cronin, although he actually did this piece by piece through several posts on the morning of Day Four. This above was in response to direct questioning by JE about holes in Barkeep's story. My main point in showing this is this reveal is the first time st.cronin is brought up as a BR. Of course, there are problems with this story, since tanglewood says st.cronin dies brutally and BK says gunfire. And BK says there was one killer, but twothree says there were two. And, oh yeah, no one came to visit BK that night, per me.

Originally Posted by Lathum

Allright, here is what happened yesterday.


I was scanned night 1 and was told it was St.Cronin who scanned me. I of course came up clean.

When St.Cronin came out yesterday I thought it was a big mistake, I just didn't think there was much to gain by it. Sure enough Telle slams him about 2minutes later. Everything Telle said was correct and I feel bad for playing that card on her but I felt it was the only way to protect St. Cronin from being lynched yesterday.

I was thinking on a few different levels.

I thought I could get Telle lynched instead of Cronin. I also thought Telle would be a good night kill to set me up to look bad. Obviously the wolves caught on to St. Cronin.

I am 99.99999% sure Telle is clean and if it wasn't Cronin who scanned her then we have a COT of 3 for now.

The question is this, if it wasn't Cronin who scanned Telle then what was Cronin doing that night?

Finally, we get to your key post here from Day Four after st.cronin is dead, where you first claim st. cronin was the one who visited you. Of course, now it's Night One he visits you. That's odd. You said on Day Three you were scanned on Night Two. So which is it?

And you were scanned by st.cronin on the same night he was scanned by Holden? Unless you're saying he made all that up. Why would he do that? He was a good guy. Hold back things? Sure. Outright lie like that? Doesn't make sense for him to do that.

But the main point here is, you didn't come out saying st.cronin was a BR until he was dead and couldn't deny it. And you got your nights mixed up.

I have no doubt now you are a Replicant, any more than BK. He will be lynched tomorrow. You will likely be lynched the next day. Unless you want to help us out by coming at me tonight. That would be good.

[Chief Rum]

Oh yeah, I can vote now.

VOTE BARKEEP

[ntndeacon]

Vote Barkeep

[Jonathan Ezarik]

VOTE BARKEEP

[Lathum]

CR, you are so far off it's comical.

[Lathum]

dola- At what point did you not understand that my actions were to try and protect St.Cronin because of Telle's accusations?

[Lathum]

I think it likely CR could be a replicant trying to either

1. Out the real bodyguard
2. Give barkeep up because he is a gonner then gain trust.

Of course in a no reveal game it's hard to figure anything out.

[Lathum]

post 740- cronin says he was scanned, I know right away this was a mistake.

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Well, I can clear this up. I was scanned night 1. I was not only told I was scanned, I was told who scanned me, and was told the player's role - I was scanned by Holden.

.

post 745- Telle comes out against Cronin

Vote St. Cronin!!!!

I was scanned last night.. I was told the players name, NOT which character. And St. Cronin and I have the same thing with the same dream as AE and Swaggs have (based on his description of his dream, I think we got the exact same PM).

post- 988 I dispute Telle's claim to try and support Cronin since she was going hard core after him.

OK, sorry for the delay. I was catching up and eating.

I was scanned last night and learned the player who scanned me AND that the player was Holden as well.

Telle is lying unless it's possible for both Deckard and Holden to scan people and Deckard not to be found out.

I think it more likely she was either scanned last night by Deckard and not killed or Deckard attempted a kill on her.

2 scans a night seems high but considering the no role reveal there needs to be a balance somewhere and that may be it, as well as learning the scanners identity since that would make it easier to build a COT, even though it would have to be private.

I agree AE needs to go and probably swaggs but right now Telle should go first since she is lying and then we breach the AE/ Swaggs subject.

VOTE TELLE

post 1137- Cronin puts me in his trust list along with Telle. Why on EARTH would he do that considering my disputing of Telle's story unless he KNEW FOR A FACT we were both good?

Ok, I assume Swaggs is going to survive the night, and get lynched tomorrow. I also assume the night target will NOT be one of the following, as the replicants will be hunting for a seer:

st.cronin
Lathum
Telle

Those three are the only ones remotely inside my cot at this point, other than actual Holden, who I obviously won't name.

I'm looking forward to hearing more from Barkeep tomorrow, would love to know his thoughts.

post 1143- Cronin turns up dead. So I am going to kill the one person who's trusted list I am on. Right, optimal wolf strategy is to kill the people who's trust you have gained.

More grim news it seems. This morning st.cronin was found in an absolutely brutal condition on the street by an abandoned apartment complex. The replicants continue their wave of murder.

Day 4 deadline is 9pm EST

Post 1238- I come out with the real story since Cronin got night killed. I was out all day so this was my first chance.The reason I have to wait to say I was scanned until AFTER cronin died was it would be to suspiscous if we were BOTH scanned night 1.

Allright, here is what happened yesterday.


I was scanned night 1 and was told it was St.Cronin who scanned me. I of course came up clean.

When St.Cronin came out yesterday I thought it was a big mistake, I just didn't think there was much to gain by it. Sure enough Telle slams him about 2minutes later. Everything Telle said was correct and I feel bad for playing that card on her but I felt it was the only way to protect St. Cronin from being lynched yesterday.

I was thinking on a few different levels.

I thought I could get Telle lynched instead of Cronin. I also thought Telle would be a good night kill to set me up to look bad. Obviously the wolves caught on to St. Cronin.

I am 99.99999% sure Telle is clean and if it wasn't Cronin who scanned her then we have a COT of 3 for now.

The question is this, if it wasn't Cronin who scanned Telle then what was Cronin doing that night?

Clearly Telle and Cronin had different expieriences so one of them was
lying about being scanned, it was Cronin because he was NEVER scanned, he
was scanning me.

[Barkeep49]

Lathum, I agree that CR's story doesn't add up as I know I was scanned and he is shouting loudly that I wasn't. I wonder if the replicants found out through one of their kills that they knocked off the BG and so he's taking advantage of that fact? And he's claiming to have protected twothree, but what if as Decker two three isn't so easy to kill and has natural protection?

Either way I feel no choice but to Vote CR

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I think it likely CR could be a replicant trying to either

1. Out the real bodyguard
2. Give barkeep up because he is a gonner then gain trust.

Of course in a no reveal game it's hard to figure anything out.

I'll point out that I wasn't a goner, and in fact was likely to be cleared, until CR posted his little thing and twothree got committed to the hospital.

[Chief Rum]

lol, the wolves come out to support each other. Well, I didn't expect different. I have posted all the evidence that is needed for both of these two. Lathum doesn't even address the fact he lied about what night he was scanned, or just about any of the other points I bring up.

I leave it to the rest of you to look over my posts since the deadline and see if they raise any questions for you about Barkeep and Lathum. I will be out the whole day.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

lol, the wolves come out to support each other. Well, I didn't expect different. I have posted all the evidence that is needed for both of these two. Lathum doesn't even address the fact he lied about what night he was scanned, or just about any of the other points I bring up.

I leave it to the rest of you to look over my posts since the deadline and see if they raise any questions for you about Barkeep and Lathum. I will be out the whole day.

actualy I did.

Tell me, if I had come out and said I was scanned night 1 what would have happened? I would have been directly contadicting what Cronin said. All that would have done was add more fuel to Telle's agrument when I was trying to do the opposite.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

lol, the wolves come out to support each other. Well, I didn't expect different .

where am I defending Barkeep?

He is siding with me because he knows it's his only chance. I think he is guilty as hell and so are you.

[Chief Rum]

I am not going to get into trying to guess when your lies were to "protect st. cronin" (masterful job, BTW ) and to hide your wolfish butt.

I once again ask only the others to look at the evidence. Look at my posts. And wonder why Lathum really lies.

Have a good day.

[Alan T]

So, if Lathum actually is guilty, I wonder if we will learn much going back through old posts to see which people gave me horrible grief for coming out with a vote on him the morning before I went out of town.

I read through everything really quickly, but I just remember LSG giving me grief about being so much more on things. I wonder if anyone else was involved with that whole thing that made me switch my vote at the time. I remember Barkeep commenting on it giving grief because I didn't vote swaggs also. I think I'll go back to look at that morning.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I am not going to get into trying to guess when your lies were to "protect st. cronin" (masterful job, BTW ) and to hide your wolfish butt.

Maybe it was such a "masterful" job because I was telling the truth.

Why on earth would I run that risk if I was a wolf? I would be happy to let Telle and Cronin go at each other.

And you are completly ignoring the fact that CRONIN TRUSTED ME!!!!!

[Lathum]

dola- Convienient how CR protected twothree but couldn't identify anyone.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Alan T

So

Barkeep + Telle is either good or bad
Lathum's message is different from Telle + Barkeep's.
Telle states it was not cronin who scanned her, which means if we believe Telle + Barkeep then both Bladerunners give the same message

So I have 10 min till I have to leave, I dont think I will be voting for barkeep, doubt I will vote for telle,

The people I think I wouldn't mind voting for right now are:

Swaggs, Lathum, Lonestargirl.

I have to make my decision in 15 min and wont be able to change it as I will be gone for the day

Originally Posted by Alan T

I don't understand all the votes on Barkeep, but hey its Werewolf, so people vote wherever

I also don't understand why suddenly everyone is happy that killing off AE, they don't need to worry about Swaggs anymore. We didn't learn anything about AE's death and I still think he likely was good.

That said, tough decision on where to go without knowing how others will vote.. twothree said he would also vote Swaggs, but I think today the better vote is Lathum

He didn't get a message like anyone else who was scanned (He said his was like cronin's but cronin was a bladerunner, not someone who was scanned). It looks more like someone who said that just to gain trust.

Vote Lathum

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I also don't understand.


I also don't understand.


I think this is a compelling argument. I think Lathum is a brilliant bad guy and would recognize the opportunity to claim to be scanned when he hadn't since it likely wouldn't come out who both bladerunners had scanned. I hadn't even considered this angle until just now, but it's completely something Lathum would do.

That said, I still feel like our best course is to go after Swaggs. We know for sure that either he or AE is a bad guy. By going after Swaggs today it would give a chance for the other BR to clear me tonight. I wouldn't advocate him/her publicly clearing me, but I would like to have a guarantee of someone who wouldn't vote for me.

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I brought up that Lathum was in st.cronin's CoT before Alan left.

I'd vote for me today if I were you all (even though I'm a human), but I'd take a look at Alan T soon after. He is usually very analytical in these games, but he has slipped some things in, this game, that don't make a lot of sense to me.

Originally Posted by Telle

Yeah it does seem like he's really pushing for Lathum.. and his logic doesn't really add up right. My assumption is that Lathum said his PM was like Cronin's because it was Cronin that scanned him and he was trying to cover for him.

Originally Posted by Swaggs

And, I will add in that I just think it is strange that Alan wouldn't vote for me today. He was one of the bigger proponents of pushing the vote to me yesterday and, even today, he was of the opinion that AE and I should both die. And then he votes for Lathum.

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I hate when quotes mess up. I won't be voting for Barkeep today either, but I think he is somebody worth paying attention too. I think the majority of people will go towards Swaggs today, and I dont see why not.

vote Swaggs

Originally Posted by Lathum

I would add AlanT to this list as well

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I think that's a pretty small list of experienced players. What about Alan, for instance?

Originally Posted by Telle

Alan's definitely been feeling a little fishy to me. We've all been jumping on Swaggs, but I've been wondering lately if maybe he isn't the bodyguard? And after what happened with st.cronin we have to remember that sometimes when someone seems a little off it may be because they're hiding their special role rather than because they're a replicant.. which of course makes things all that more confusing.

Originally Posted by Lathum

I agree twothree should kill Alan at first oppritunity.

Originally Posted by Telle

I think right now Swaggs and Alan are my top 2. My recommendation is that we send Swaggs off to Mars and then twothree tries to kill Alan tonight.

I think I already voted for Swaggs, but just to be sure...
Vote Swaggs

Originally Posted by RendeR

unvote twothree

vote alan t

I feel good about AE being one of the replicants, no-one has admitted being scanned by the replicant Priss at all. I think we got one and both were in on killing Cronin.

Going back through posts, it was mostly Telle, Render, Lathum, Swaggs and LSG who gave me grief for considering Lathum being evil based on his play. Now with the information that Chief has given us, I think it shines a really bad light on all of them. Telle was cleared by twothree, and I dont have any doubt on that, so I think that was just her making a mistake about me. Swaggs probably was likely frustrated that I was after him for a few days, so not sure if I read alot into that either. Barkeep on the other hand, took the other approach and seemed to be the only one to give my idea credence. I think Barkeep and Lathum have been playing the opposing wolf strategy game for a few days now to create distance

That leaves Render, Barkeep, lathum and LSG. Based on how they were playing opposite each other, in a way that I would imagine a wolf distances themselves, I think its most likely that Barkeep, Lathum and LSG are the wolves there.

[RendeR]

So at this point pretty much everyone is convinced of barkeep and the choice of another replicant is lathum or Chief Rum....

tough choices.

[Lathum]

So does anyone think Cronin was the other seer?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

So does anyone think Cronin was the other seer?

I do but everyone seems to think I'm a wolf.

I just want to point out that it had seemed like Alan or I was a wolf. Now suddenly, after performing a scan, twothree is in the hospital, no one suspects Alan and CR is going around lambasting someone who was cleared by our seer. This game has taken an awful turn in a wrong direction.

[Lathum]

dang it got pretty quiet

[Lathum]

Telle, I see you lurking. Any thoughts?

[path12]

Just caught up, but not in detail. I'll put a vote in for now:

VOTE BARKEEP

Chief came up with some interesting points, but there's a couple things I want to look at. Unfortunately, Mondays are my busiest day.

[Telle]

I'm not sure I'm entirely buying Cheif Rum's argument. I'm guessing that the game is set up so that the bodyguard doesn't discover the identity of his charges. Since he's not actually sitting in the room with them but is rather watching from afar, it's definitely possible that they could leave to scan or kill without him noticing.

So, my plan is to lynch Barkeep today and then we'll see what twothree has to say when he gets out of the hospital. Plus he should have a kill action tonight, and hopefully that will happen before he gets killed himself.

[Telle]

Vote Barkeep

[LoneStarGirl]

Originally Posted by Alan T

I still feel really strongly that LSG is bad, and if Lathum ends up being bad after my flip flopping on him so many times, I'll cry, but wouldn't doubt it.

You ALWAYS feel that I am bad... but I am not.

[LoneStarGirl]

I like Chief's argument... It is very thought out and seems right to me. And Alant, I NEVER gave you grief for Lathum.... you might want to look harder.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I like Chief's argument... It is very thought out and seems right to me. And Alant, I NEVER gave you grief for Lathum.... you might want to look harder.

except for the numerous holes I poked in it. just because something is thought out doesn't mean it is correct.

Answer me this LSG, do you think Cronin was the other seer??

[path12]

Way slow. Are we doing exactly what the wolves want?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by path12

Way slow. Are we doing exactly what the wolves want?

Thats the problem with this game. Even after lynching someone you think surely must be a wolf, there is no way to know. So even though its not end game right now, who knows what the wolves would or could try to pull once all seers are dead or incapacitated.

[LoneStarGirl]

I dont know if Cronin was the Seer... I really dont think so though, because he had you and Telle in his COT and like you said... who would scan Telle that early in the game?

[Barkeep49]

So by that reasoning, LSG, I'm bad, Telle's bad, and Lathum's bad, and cronin's bad, yet there are only three wolves.

Anyhow I'm out to meet CW and DT. Good luck after my senseless death.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I dont know if Cronin was the Seer... I really dont think so though, because he had you and Telle in his COT and like you said... who would scan Telle that early in the game?

so you think twothree is lying about scanning Telle?

and if Cronin isn't the other seer who got scanned last night then?

LSG is a replicant, guarenteed.

[ntndeacon]

Does anyone else feel like there is a good chance that twothree did not see his attackers?

[path12]

Originally Posted by Lathum

LSG is a replicant, guarenteed.

Guaranteed? Really? Because those are the kind of statements I always find a bit off.

[path12]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Does anyone else feel like there is a good chance that twothree did not see his attackers?

Considering twothree didn't see them night 3 and Chief didn't see them last night, yeah, there's a pretty good chance.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by path12

Guaranteed? Really? Because those are the kind of statements I always find a bit off.

well I find her statement a bit "off" that she claims Telle and twothree are lying...

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by path12

Considering twothree didn't see them night 3 and Chief didn't see them last night, yeah, there's a pretty good chance.

unless chief and LSG attacked twothree and know they were spotted...

[path12]

Originally Posted by Lathum

well I find her statement a bit "off" that she claims Telle and twothree are lying...

I understand your problems with her statements, but are you really guaranteeing that she is bad? Because you didn't qualify it. And I find unqualified statements like that suspicious, especially since we appear to know who our seers were.

[path12]

I see JHandley is in thread. Hope you sign up for a game soon.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by path12

I understand your problems with her statements, but are you really guaranteeing that she is bad? Because you didn't qualify it. And I find unqualified statements like that suspicious, especially since we appear to know who our seers were.

and who were our seers?