Werewolf XXXIII: To Crown a King 2 (Game Over) - Page 28

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

My guess i told barkeep about for my bad guy list was lathum, sndvls, and cronin(and maybe LSG)...im looking forward to seeing how wrong i was

very wrong as I and LSG were in your faction

LoneStarGirl · 10-03-2006, 10:06 PM

Well Blade and NTNdeacon and SNDVLS, are faction A got the second most in points, even though blade died the first night and sndvls tattled on NTN and got him killed.

Blade6119 · 10-03-2006, 10:06 PM

What suprised me is Faction A had two member killed off, and i think a 3rd converted, and still came THIS close to winning

Barkeep49 · 10-03-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

its funny that grey and schmitdy got a minor victory when they really were never around

I agree. The faction verus faction part didn't work out as well as I had hoped since people didn't realize how close the game was to ending and thus didn't start to sabotage the other good guys.

The good guys, in the end, batted a 100%. I am not sure if that was a fault of the game or just good playing by the humans.

LoneStarGirl · 10-03-2006, 10:07 PM

If ntndeacon was still alive and voted for him lathum we might have had just enough....

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Well Blade and NTNdeacon and SNDVLS, are faction A got the second most in points, even though blade died the first night and sndvls tattled on NTN and got him killed.

when he didn't post as you requested in your last note I had to assume he was turned

Blade6119 · 10-03-2006, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

very wrong as I and LSG were in your faction

Im aware you and NTN were when alive, and LSG post mortem, but i figured you went the way of the bad guy when you got NTN killed.

LSG, did you post any of my clues? I didnt see them from you like i did ntn and sndvls

LoneStarGirl · 10-03-2006, 10:07 PM

SNDVLS you got converted?

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 10:08 PM

BK - will you post the starting factions and conversions and kills ect at some point?

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

SNDVLS you got converted?

no!!

LoneStarGirl · 10-03-2006, 10:09 PM

Yah I posted them blade.... I just did them late cuz of my jobs.

And SNDVLS, NTNDeacon did post what i said, start with a P end in execute. That's how i knew he was in my faction.

Faction A should get a boobie prize or something

ntndeacon · 10-03-2006, 10:09 PM

I hought Cronin was the converted noble as well Blade

LoneStarGirl · 10-03-2006, 10:10 PM

Who were the assasins, Lathum, Qwik....? anybody else

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 10:10 PM

I could have sworn Hoops was in A with us as many of his post had our clues too from Blade

LoneStarGirl · 10-03-2006, 10:10 PM

Blade was teh faction leader, i didn't think they could get converted. Blade didn't last long enough to get converted really

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Yah I posted them blade.... I just did them late cuz of my jobs.

And SNDVLS, NTNDeacon did post what i said, start with a P end in execute. That's how i knew he was in my faction.

Faction A should get a boobie prize or something

where? I looked and didn't see it in his 1st post of the day

????

Barkeep49 · 10-03-2006, 10:10 PM

Faction Leader A Blade6119
Fast Talking Noble Lonestargirl
Sndvls
Ntndeacon
Faction Leader B Greyroofoo
Favored Noble/Lucky Noble Schmidty
Fast Talking Noble st.cronin
Wise Noble Mr. Wednesday
Efficient Assassin WVUFan
Clever Assassin Lathum
Vengeful Assassin Qwikshot
Faction Leader C Bulletsponge
BrianD
Cocky Noble King
Fast Talking Noble Anxiety
Faction Leader D/Favored Noble RealDeal
Rich Noble/Fast Talking Noble Fouts
Warrior Noble Chief Rum
Hoopsguy

st.cronin was converted Night 1
Fouts was converted last night.

In a cluth move Chief had protected him the previous night. Otherwise Fouts would have been converted then and the vote yesterday likely goes in a different direction.

As always comments are welcome and appreciated.

Blade6119 · 10-03-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Yah I posted them blade.... I just did them late cuz of my jobs.

And SNDVLS, NTNDeacon did post what i said, start with a P end in execute. That's how i knew he was in my faction.

Faction A should get a boobie prize or something

I must have missed them...all is well though, as when i created my story to bait badguys you werent involved i dont believe. So either way you stayed off my radar

If not sndvls, then who? Lathum, cronin, king? Im really looking forward to the list

Blade6119 · 10-03-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I could have sworn Hoops was in A with us as many of his post had our clues too from Blade

No, none of his posts did. I made it clear which post # of the day for you the clues had to be in, and none of his followed.

hoopsguy · 10-03-2006, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I could have sworn Hoops was in A with us as many of his post had our clues too from Blade

I think I unwittingly posted in a manner that was consistent with a couple of factions. Barkeep, I would love to see what the messages were as well if you are able to post those.

Good game, all.

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

where? I looked and didn't see it in his 1st post of the day

????

okay I found it, but the thing that threw me off was using "execution" in his bolded vote and not just a random sentence.

again sorry to LSG and NTN

LoneStarGirl · 10-03-2006, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Im aware you and NTN were when alive, and LSG post mortem, but i figured you went the way of the bad guy when you got NTN killed.

LSG, did you post any of my clues? I didnt see them from you like i did ntn and sndvls

Post 282 is when i used V as my seventh word...

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

No, none of his posts did. I made it clear which post # of the day for you the clues had to be in, and none of his followed.

I think his day 2 fit the bill but not day 1

ntndeacon · 10-03-2006, 10:15 PM

Blade Isaw that Lonestar had followed the first days ithink but her post on the second day was right after the day had started so she did not have it then. I was sure you had seen that and that was what your 1 or 2 members of the faction you thought you knew were.

hoopsguy · 10-03-2006, 10:16 PM

I'm also amused that I came out firing on a pair of faction leaders on Day 1 - first Blade, then switched to Bullet.

I also asked Barkeep to drop something in his Day 4 recap referencing Post #877, where I felt like I had left my "final Day 3 thoughts". I was happy to see people pick up on my trust list from Day 1, but would have preferred that people look at my distrust list in Day 3. I was girding myself to go after Lathum on Day 4, but didn't want to launch a night assault and give another reason for them to kill me. In hindsight, perhaps I should have taken that approach.

Lonestargirl, you had a very strong first game here. First votes in on Qwikshot and Lathum, and generally making very good reads from what I followed.

I also thought NTN and MrW played good games.

Rum, why the heck did you leave your vote on me on Day 1, with us on the same faction? I thought I telegraphed my faction pretty clearly, although I'm pretty sure you did not ... made it a bear to follow for me and Fouts (from what I could tell).

LoneStarGirl · 10-03-2006, 10:16 PM

Oh well, this was a fun first game to play. I learned a lot. I didn't know i was the fast talking noble though... good thing nobody tried to kill me. I am off to bed, hopefully i do better on my beginner's game i am playing now.

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Post 282 is when i used V as my seventh word...

I think you missed day 1 or something, as I joined late and had to reread every post to fine them. But caught on to day 2.

Also because I didn't get a day 2 or 3 message until late they probally threw you off Blade as I didn't want to jump in and then post it after BK made a public statement about me not getting the message.

st.cronin · 10-03-2006, 10:18 PM

Very hard game for the badguys to win, imo.

st.cronin · 10-03-2006, 10:20 PM

Hoops, I thought LSG played well too. I was pretty scared of her by the end.

hoopsguy · 10-03-2006, 10:20 PM

Cronin, what ways could the rules be tilted more to assist the bad guys? Different points value for victory? Different number of starting bad guys?

I think this was a game of momentum, personally. Very challenging for the bad guys to win when the good guys get the first kill of the game.

Blade6119 · 10-03-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SnDvls

I think his day 2 fit the bill but not day 1

Not even close from what i can see

Our day 2 code:

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

"First post, 1st word, start with D. 8th word must be "assasins."

Hoopsguy first day 2 post:

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Worst case scenario is that the assassins got a fast talker to join up with them last night. That could really hamper our efforts at making sense out of the messages from yesterday.

Barkeep, if there are multiple people in jail are we able to send in multiple Execute orders? Or are we restricted to one execute per day?

He was close with his 7th word being assasins, but when it didnt start with D i didnt even read it for code. I read it later for game reasons, but i scanned first for code and he never broke it. His day one posts are incredibly far off the code, and day 3 he never came close either.

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 10:22 PM

I would for future reference not have replacement players and just adjust as it really is hard to get into the flow in this type of game as a replacement. Not only are you behind w/ your faction, but with the whole game.

st.cronin · 10-03-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Cronin, what ways could the rules be tilted more to assist the bad guys? Different points value for victory? Different number of starting bad guys?

I think this was a game of momentum, personally. Very challenging for the bad guys to win when the good guys get the first kill of the game.

My first thought is that I think points need to be hidden.

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 10:24 PM

wow looking back on it faction A had crap for roles too.

hoopsguy · 10-03-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

My first thought is that I think points need to be hidden.

I had a very similar thought - assassins point total is hidden. They have a faction, but their point total is not listed. The moderator can give an indication of their relative success in the points messages, indicating a level of restlessness from the populace.

ntndeacon · 10-03-2006, 10:25 PM

I think the reluctance of the nobles to kill helped them out. Hey did we ever find out what exactly happened on night too to cause no assassinations?

Blade6119 · 10-03-2006, 10:27 PM

Faction A Codes:

Night 0:

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Message: "First post after official day start, 7th word, must begin with V"

Night 1:

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

"First post, 1st word, start with P. 6th word must be "nobles." "

Night 2:

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

"First post, 1st word, start with D. 8th word must be "assasins."

Night 3(not sure if recieved, i was killed):

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

"SnDvls...ntndeacon...? Others include phrase: "crown a faction leader" in first post.

I was killed this night, and LSG took over. I do not know her codes.

ntndeacon · 10-03-2006, 10:27 PM

I almost released my list of who ithought the assassins were before iwent to bed the night iwas taken out, I was pretty sure that cronin was the converted one but ithought Grey was the other assassin not WVU. oh well I can't be right in everything

ntndeacon · 10-03-2006, 10:28 PM

night 3's post wasn't recieved Blade

st.cronin · 10-03-2006, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

I think the reluctance of the nobles to kill helped them out. Hey did we ever find out what exactly happened on night too to cause no assassinations?

iirc, night 2 we targeted Blade, but he was protected. Day 3, Qwik was lynched, and poisoned hoops. That night we went after Blade again. The next night, we targeted Mr. Wednesday and Fouts (WVUFan = efficient assasin), but Fouts was protected. Then last night we went after Fouts again.

Blade6119 · 10-03-2006, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

iirc, night 2 we targeted Blade, but he was protected. Day 3, Qwik was lynched, and poisoned hoops. That night we went after Blade again.

So you talk a bunch of smack about me and try to kill me TWICE!! I see where i stand

I GUESS I SHOULD SAY THANK YOU CHIEF!!!

SnDvls · 10-03-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

night 3's post wasn't recieved Blade

none of us got a night 3 as you were killed and it took a night for our new leader to be allowed to get one out. I PMed BK about this as I was having trouble getting messages anyhow.

ntndeacon · 10-03-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

iirc, night 2 we targeted Blade, but he was protected. Day 3, Qwik was lynched, and poisoned hoops. That night we went after Blade again. The next night, we targeted Mr. Wednesday and Fouts (WVUFan = efficient assasin), but Fouts was protected. Then last night we went after Fouts again.

So when he spit into the group, he DID kill someone! I thought that looked weird at the time... I might have mentioned something about it in passing.

Lathum · 10-03-2006, 10:33 PM

I never saw this coming, I was sure once we got Fouts we would have an easy win.

Abe Sargent · 10-03-2006, 10:33 PM

WHOOOOOO

ntndeacon · 10-03-2006, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I never saw this coming, I was sure once we got Fouts we would have an easy win.

Except Fouts first post after being converted was to try to free you. That raised eyebrows with a lot of folks.

RealDeal · 10-03-2006, 10:37 PM

Was too busy at work, never got into this game much, and didn't really play well or make any contribution. Fun game, but seems hard for the assassins. It seemed like if someone really wanted to take the time, between the scores and Mr.W's code, it was possible to figure most everything out.

st.cronin · 10-03-2006, 10:38 PM

I definitely saw this coming. It's why I pushed so hard for king to get executed, and why I came out swinging to get Lathum freed. I just couldn't think of a reveal that would make sense.

Abe Sargent · 10-03-2006, 10:41 PM

For those of you who are wondering why I went after king yesterday when he was in my faction

I wasn't on when king went down, and I knew BrianD/BS would have to vouch for king. This made our faction very, very public, and I felt it was best if the fourth member of said faction (me) distanced himself with the others.

I wanted to push BrianD/BS into vouching that yes, king did, in fact, give a singal, and then I hang my head sheepishly. Unfortunately, king outed everything, including what the signals were, so anyone going back woul dsee that I was Faction D as well, so it didn't work as well as I had thought. I also did a frudian slip when I told BrianD something about OUR faction when I meant to say YOUR faction and I was hoping no one noticed, but ah well. We still won

I had assumed that king hammed it up about killing me because he knew what I was doing and wanted to distance me from the other three as well. After all, if I was the fast talker (and I didn't know if I was or not, obviously) and king and bs had roles already, they might have gone after me and hit me, so I wnated that distance.

It all worked in the end, but not my gambit. Congrats team!

ntndeacon · 10-03-2006, 10:47 PM

I had a similar instinct especially after SnDvls came to LSG's rescue. I thought that they had seen my posts showing my belonging to faction A so I was willing to stay relatively quiet. I knew also our faction would get points out of releasing one of our faction from Jail.

10-03-2006, 10:06 PM	#1353
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	What suprised me is Faction A had two member killed off, and i think a 3rd converted, and still came THIS close to winning __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

10-03-2006, 10:18 PM	#1378
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Very hard game for the badguys to win, imo. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-03-2006, 10:20 PM	#1379
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Hoops, I thought LSG played well too. I was pretty scared of her by the end. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-03-2006, 10:33 PM	#1395
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	WHOOOOOO __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-03-2006, 10:38 PM	#1398
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I definitely saw this coming. It's why I pushed so hard for king to get executed, and why I came out swinging to get Lathum freed. I just couldn't think of a reveal that would make sense. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-03-2006, 10:06 PM	#1352
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Well Blade and NTNdeacon and SNDVLS, are faction A got the second most in points, even though blade died the first night and sndvls tattled on NTN and got him killed.

10-03-2006, 10:07 PM	#1355
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	If ntndeacon was still alive and voted for him lathum we might have had just enough....

10-03-2006, 10:07 PM	#1358
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	SNDVLS you got converted?

10-03-2006, 10:08 PM	#1359
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	BK - will you post the starting factions and conversions and kills ect at some point?

10-03-2006, 10:09 PM	#1361
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Yah I posted them blade.... I just did them late cuz of my jobs. And SNDVLS, NTNDeacon did post what i said, start with a P end in execute. That's how i knew he was in my faction. Faction A should get a boobie prize or something

10-03-2006, 10:09 PM	#1362
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I hought Cronin was the converted noble as well Blade

10-03-2006, 10:10 PM	#1363
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Who were the assasins, Lathum, Qwik....? anybody else

10-03-2006, 10:10 PM	#1364
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I could have sworn Hoops was in A with us as many of his post had our clues too from Blade

10-03-2006, 10:10 PM	#1365
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Blade was teh faction leader, i didn't think they could get converted. Blade didn't last long enough to get converted really

10-03-2006, 10:10 PM	#1367
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Faction Leader A Blade6119 Fast Talking Noble Lonestargirl Sndvls Ntndeacon Faction Leader B Greyroofoo Favored Noble/Lucky Noble Schmidty Fast Talking Noble st.cronin Wise Noble Mr. Wednesday Efficient Assassin WVUFan Clever Assassin Lathum Vengeful Assassin Qwikshot Faction Leader C Bulletsponge BrianD Cocky Noble King Fast Talking Noble Anxiety Faction Leader D/Favored Noble RealDeal Rich Noble/Fast Talking Noble Fouts Warrior Noble Chief Rum Hoopsguy st.cronin was converted Night 1 Fouts was converted last night. In a cluth move Chief had protected him the previous night. Otherwise Fouts would have been converted then and the vote yesterday likely goes in a different direction. As always comments are welcome and appreciated.

10-03-2006, 10:15 PM	#1374
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Blade Isaw that Lonestar had followed the first days ithink but her post on the second day was right after the day had started so she did not have it then. I was sure you had seen that and that was what your 1 or 2 members of the faction you thought you knew were.

10-03-2006, 10:16 PM	#1375
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm also amused that I came out firing on a pair of faction leaders on Day 1 - first Blade, then switched to Bullet. I also asked Barkeep to drop something in his Day 4 recap referencing Post #877, where I felt like I had left my "final Day 3 thoughts". I was happy to see people pick up on my trust list from Day 1, but would have preferred that people look at my distrust list in Day 3. I was girding myself to go after Lathum on Day 4, but didn't want to launch a night assault and give another reason for them to kill me. In hindsight, perhaps I should have taken that approach. Lonestargirl, you had a very strong first game here. First votes in on Qwikshot and Lathum, and generally making very good reads from what I followed. I also thought NTN and MrW played good games. Rum, why the heck did you leave your vote on me on Day 1, with us on the same faction? I thought I telegraphed my faction pretty clearly, although I'm pretty sure you did not ... made it a bear to follow for me and Fouts (from what I could tell).

10-03-2006, 10:16 PM	#1376
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Oh well, this was a fun first game to play. I learned a lot. I didn't know i was the fast talking noble though... good thing nobody tried to kill me. I am off to bed, hopefully i do better on my beginner's game i am playing now.

10-03-2006, 10:20 PM	#1380
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Cronin, what ways could the rules be tilted more to assist the bad guys? Different points value for victory? Different number of starting bad guys? I think this was a game of momentum, personally. Very challenging for the bad guys to win when the good guys get the first kill of the game.

10-03-2006, 10:22 PM	#1382
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I would for future reference not have replacement players and just adjust as it really is hard to get into the flow in this type of game as a replacement. Not only are you behind w/ your faction, but with the whole game.

10-03-2006, 10:24 PM	#1384
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	wow looking back on it faction A had crap for roles too.

10-03-2006, 10:25 PM	#1386
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I think the reluctance of the nobles to kill helped them out. Hey did we ever find out what exactly happened on night too to cause no assassinations?

10-03-2006, 10:27 PM	#1388
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I almost released my list of who ithought the assassins were before iwent to bed the night iwas taken out, I was pretty sure that cronin was the converted one but ithought Grey was the other assassin not WVU. oh well I can't be right in everything

10-03-2006, 10:28 PM	#1389
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	night 3's post wasn't recieved Blade

10-03-2006, 10:33 PM	#1394
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I never saw this coming, I was sure once we got Fouts we would have an easy win.

10-03-2006, 10:37 PM	#1397
RealDeal High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: here	Was too busy at work, never got into this game much, and didn't really play well or make any contribution. Fun game, but seems hard for the assassins. It seemed like if someone really wanted to take the time, between the scores and Mr.W's code, it was possible to figure most everything out.

10-03-2006, 10:41 PM	#1399
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	For those of you who are wondering why I went after king yesterday when he was in my faction I wasn't on when king went down, and I knew BrianD/BS would have to vouch for king. This made our faction very, very public, and I felt it was best if the fourth member of said faction (me) distanced himself with the others. I wanted to push BrianD/BS into vouching that yes, king did, in fact, give a singal, and then I hang my head sheepishly. Unfortunately, king outed everything, including what the signals were, so anyone going back woul dsee that I was Faction D as well, so it didn't work as well as I had thought. I also did a frudian slip when I told BrianD something about OUR faction when I meant to say YOUR faction and I was hoping no one noticed, but ah well. We still won I had assumed that king hammed it up about killing me because he knew what I was doing and wanted to distance me from the other three as well. After all, if I was the fast talker (and I didn't know if I was or not, obviously) and king and bs had roles already, they might have gone after me and hit me, so I wnated that distance. It all worked in the end, but not my gambit. Congrats team! __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-03-2006, 10:47 PM	#1400
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I had a similar instinct especially after SnDvls came to LSG's rescue. I thought that they had seen my posts showing my belonging to faction A so I was willing to stay relatively quiet. I knew also our faction would get points out of releasing one of our faction from Jail.

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