Werewolf L Kate Beckinsale - day 7, deadline Thursday 10pm Eastern Time - Page 28

path12 · 08-01-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Telle

But isn't late vote switching a really big red flag? Don't wolves try to avoid that?

In this game there have been tons of late switches so it's likely a bit more hidden.

It also gets to a point where wolves may want to go against the common wisdom of what we think wolves do.

Neon_Chaos · 08-01-2007, 10:44 AM

woke up a bit.

seems like everyone's all buddy-buddy in this game.

my vote stays.

hoopsguy · 08-01-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

so hoopsguy, what do you think? Who should we vote for today?

I would love to comment

Seriously, I only know the allegiance of one person in this game at the moment, so I'm guessing along with you guys from the sidelines.

JHandley · 08-01-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

relatively UTR: jhandly

I'm not sure how much more active I can be. I've been tossing out ideas, I've been chatty, I've been voting and making my reasons for votes clear. I'm starting to feel a bit like Path here

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Originally Posted by Telle

Well Gonzo's been on my watch list.. and I voted for him a couple of days ago. But you have a point about JHandley. So I'm good with voting for either one of them. I'll put my vote in on JHandley for now so that we have two people with two votes each.

VOTE JHANDLEY

Just so we're clear, the votes against me are purely to get a second canidate? If the idea is to get more out of me, get me talking, find out what I'm thinking and the reasons I've done what I've done, shouldn't there be an actual accusation?

If you've got questions, ask them. If you've got concerns about something I've done, bring it up. Right now there's two votes for me and nothing for me to defend.

JHandley · 08-01-2007, 10:54 AM

Dola -

I've got absolutely no idea what's going on in this game. I have no clue who I'm going to vote for. I'm leaning towards Path, Neon and LSG. If a compelling arguement comes up, I'm all ears.

I've got nothing.

DaddyTorgo · 08-01-2007, 11:12 AM

the votes against you are because you have been pinging me slightly differently than say LSG or Telle, and yes, we do need a second candidate. i'm more comfortable thinking that Neon and Path are either good, or significantly less probable to be a wolf than you are jhandly.

there isn't a ton to go on at this point, barring reveals. not that i'm advocating for reveals either...but i forget who it was who said it earlier, but i think it might almost be at that point where it makes sense, depending on what has been found out. if it can significantly narrow/refocus the pool of suspects than it may be something for that person/people to think about.

on the other hand if you're going to come out and tell us nothing that we don't already suspect, maybe not.

JHandley · 08-01-2007, 11:15 AM

Triple Dola -

My first response may have come out a bit harsher than intended. I've joined in on several votes just to get two canidates or to get one person defending. I understand the logic.

We're just not going to get anywhere until some theories/ideas start to get floated. I'm just sick of being wrong with all of mine, so I'm taking the lead from the players I trust: Kwit and RendeR.

JHandley · 08-01-2007, 11:17 AM

I'm comfortable with that DT. I really am. Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot I can do relieve the ping.

JHandley · 08-01-2007, 11:19 AM

And don't disrepect the "e", baby. Wars have been fought over my right to keep the "e" at the end of my name

DaddyTorgo · 08-01-2007, 11:20 AM

fair enough Jhandley...fair enough. If there was some type of evidence against someone else I'd be happy to look in that direction as well. However in the absence of any evidence we're sort of stuck going on "gut."

RendeR · 08-01-2007, 11:27 AM

My gut says "we're fooked"

DaddyTorgo · 08-01-2007, 11:35 AM

grrrr for no editing. those are some messy posts. anyways...the url is there, so oh well.

KWhit · 08-01-2007, 11:40 AM

Did you break the game?

KWhit · 08-01-2007, 11:40 AM

Dude.

KWhit · 08-01-2007, 11:41 AM

Maybe you should delete these 2 posts so things don't get so screwy...

KWhit · 08-01-2007, 11:44 AM

This is a test.....

KWhit · 08-01-2007, 11:45 AM

Another test....

KWhit · 08-01-2007, 11:46 AM

No matter how I try to post, it's embedding it in your post, DT. That sucks.

JHandley · 08-01-2007, 11:46 AM

JHandley · 08-01-2007, 11:46 AM

Shows up just fine for me, KWhit. My post and your posts.

KWhit · 08-01-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by JHandley

Shows up just fine for me, KWhit. My post and your posts.

What? That's bizarre. Your posts (and all ofmie above) show up as embedded in DT's post #1363.

DaddyTorgo · 08-01-2007, 11:51 AM

screwey. okay...i'm going to delete those posts so nothing gets broken. jhandley+kwhit+i are here.

stupid video-embedding bullcrap

DaddyTorgo · 08-01-2007, 11:53 AM

wow. that was impressively fucky-fucky.

and all for a video of the Irish-guy in Braveheart. LOL

KWhit · 08-01-2007, 11:53 AM

Ah. Fixed now. Thanks.

KWhit · 08-01-2007, 11:55 AM

FYI, here's what I was seeing:

RendeR · 08-01-2007, 11:55 AM

So now this is all my fauylt?

RendeR · 08-01-2007, 11:56 AM

I wish I had a machine powerful enough to run that many apps at one time =)

st.cronin · 08-01-2007, 11:57 AM

New werewolf rule: No embedding youtube videos.

RendeR · 08-01-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

New werewolf rule: No embedding youtube videos.

You forgot to post that in RED

st.cronin · 08-01-2007, 12:00 PM

It wasn't an official gm post.

RendeR · 08-01-2007, 12:01 PM

LoneStarGirl · 08-01-2007, 12:02 PM

Wow this is weird. I am seeing everything normal and you guys are all freaking out

LoneStarGirl · 08-01-2007, 12:07 PM

I think Telle just leaves herself in the thread because she has been here for hours without saying anything

Gonzo · 08-01-2007, 12:13 PM

Can someone tell me why I might be a wolf, rather than "acting funny"?

LoneStarGirl · 08-01-2007, 12:14 PM

Because you have 0 posts and that is very wolfish

LoneStarGirl · 08-01-2007, 12:14 PM

Path.... what are you thinking?

Gonzo · 08-01-2007, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Because you have 0 posts and that is very wolfish

Even though posts don't count in the werewolf forum?

JHandley · 08-01-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Can someone tell me why I might be a wolf, rather than "acting funny"?

Same problem I've got Gonzo. BK was on the brink of lynch several times because he was acting different than he normally was. We don't fit into the meta-game that inevitably gets played when no one has any solid evidence.

Now, I do think you've said some funny things, but if saying funny things indicated wolf, then Schmidty and RendeR would have been voted off long ago.

KWhit · 08-01-2007, 12:32 PM

I don't have anything solid to back this up, but I don't get the wolf vibe from Gonzo. His posts just come across as pushy villegar to me (nothing wrong with that).

I'm trying to decide where my vote's going to go, but I don't think it will be him.

path12 · 08-01-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Path.... what are you thinking?

After last night I want to go back and look through the voting records again, along with some of the late changes.

I was really off on the Tangle thing, and hate swinging and missing like that, so I'm also interested to see what others think, though I believe we've tended to just take a shot in the dark the past couple days.

So what I think is that we need to break down the votes logically and see where that points instead of talking about utr or hunches.

Problem is that I'm slammed at work probably through at least tomorrow morning so I'm not sure when I'm getting a chance to do it, which sucks.

It's hard to believe that none of our seers has had a hit yet. Either that speaks to there not being as many wolves as we might think, or that we've had extraordinary bad luck.

It's probably time to start talking about seers coming forward with their clears, but we're going to need consensus on something like that since they will be putting themselves on the line. But if we can clear four or five of us that still remain we might be able to get somewhere.

JHandley · 08-01-2007, 12:53 PM

The problem is, we don't have seers. We have seer. We have one guy who can see and one guy who can see if someone is a mad scientist, nothing else.

We also don't have a bodyguard anymore. Once the seer and sherlock out themselves, they're toast. No one is going to vote for them, so we won't have voting records to go on at that point. Unless the seer can supply 2 wolves, I don't see how we can win if they out themselves.

Telle · 08-01-2007, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I think Telle just leaves herself in the thread because she has been here for hours without saying anything

Yeah I just leave a tab open to it and come back and refresh every now and then. Multi-tasking

path12 · 08-01-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JHandley

The problem is, we don't have seers. We have seer. We have one guy who can see and one guy who can see if someone is a mad scientist, nothing else.

We also don't have a bodyguard anymore. Once the seer and sherlock out themselves, they're toast. No one is going to vote for them, so we won't have voting records to go on at that point. Unless the seer can supply 2 wolves, I don't see how we can win if they out themselves.

Let's say they've both looked at you, Neon and Gonzo, and you all came up clean to both. Then we've got three cleared players, plus them. That cuts our suspect list in half.

path12 · 08-01-2007, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tanglewood

You're a villager, but you're making yourself look real bad right here.

By the way, at the deadline last night where I said I had to revisit Tangle. That was based on this message. The way he phrased it made me think he had that knowledge about me for sure, so I started to wonder if he was a seer.

That's why I asked Cronin whether we would know if Holmes or the good scientist were night kills.

JHandley · 08-01-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Let's say they've both looked at you, Neon and Gonzo, and you all came up clean to both. Then we've got three cleared players, plus them. That cuts our suspect list in half.

That assumes they've managed to both hit the same players.

I do understand the logic of clearing players even if it doesn't give us specific wolves, tho. I just can't quite get on board with this yet.

Telle · 08-01-2007, 01:08 PM

Yeah I think it's too early too. I think we should leave it up to the seers as to when they reveal themselves. They should know when they feel that they have enough info to make it worthwhile.

'Cause there's also the possibility that most of the people they've checked have been lynched or killed.. and then they'd really not have much of anything to offer us.

JHandley · 08-01-2007, 01:09 PM

It also occured to me last night that the Mad Scientist may be some kind of killswitch for the game. Instead of converting normal players, there's a time limit on how long the game can go on before the Mad Scientist ends the game by creating his army.

LoneStarGirl · 08-01-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

By the way, at the deadline last night where I said I had to revisit Tangle. That was based on this message. The way he phrased it made me think he had that knowledge about me for sure, so I started to wonder if he was a seer.

That's why I asked Cronin whether we would know if Holmes or the good scientist were night kills.

Hmm Path... that might a wolfish thing to do, try and push the seers to reveal themselves, are you sure that is what you want?

JHandley · 08-01-2007, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

By the way, at the deadline last night where I said I had to revisit Tangle. That was based on this message. The way he phrased it made me think he had that knowledge about me for sure, so I started to wonder if he was a seer.

That's why I asked Cronin whether we would know if Holmes or the good scientist were night kills.

And I thought the way he said it is why the wolves killed him.

Telle · 08-01-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JHandley

And I thought the way he said it is why the wolves killed him.

That could very well be. Good catch.

08-01-2007, 10:44 AM	#1352
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	woke up a bit. seems like everyone's all buddy-buddy in this game. my vote stays. __________________ Come and see.

08-01-2007, 11:27 AM	#1361
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	My gut says "we're fooked" __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

08-01-2007, 11:55 AM	#1376
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	So now this is all my fauylt? __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

08-01-2007, 11:56 AM	#1377
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	I wish I had a machine powerful enough to run that many apps at one time =) __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

08-01-2007, 11:57 AM	#1378
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	New werewolf rule: No embedding youtube videos. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

08-01-2007, 10:54 AM	#1355
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	Dola - I've got absolutely no idea what's going on in this game. I have no clue who I'm going to vote for. I'm leaning towards Path, Neon and LSG. If a compelling arguement comes up, I'm all ears. I've got nothing.

08-01-2007, 11:12 AM	#1356
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	the votes against you are because you have been pinging me slightly differently than say LSG or Telle, and yes, we do need a second candidate. i'm more comfortable thinking that Neon and Path are either good, or significantly less probable to be a wolf than you are jhandly. there isn't a ton to go on at this point, barring reveals. not that i'm advocating for reveals either...but i forget who it was who said it earlier, but i think it might almost be at that point where it makes sense, depending on what has been found out. if it can significantly narrow/refocus the pool of suspects than it may be something for that person/people to think about. on the other hand if you're going to come out and tell us nothing that we don't already suspect, maybe not.

08-01-2007, 11:15 AM	#1357
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	Triple Dola - My first response may have come out a bit harsher than intended. I've joined in on several votes just to get two canidates or to get one person defending. I understand the logic. We're just not going to get anywhere until some theories/ideas start to get floated. I'm just sick of being wrong with all of mine, so I'm taking the lead from the players I trust: Kwit and RendeR.

08-01-2007, 11:17 AM	#1358
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	I'm comfortable with that DT. I really am. Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot I can do relieve the ping.

08-01-2007, 11:19 AM	#1359
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	And don't disrepect the "e", baby. Wars have been fought over my right to keep the "e" at the end of my name

08-01-2007, 11:20 AM	#1360
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	fair enough Jhandley...fair enough. If there was some type of evidence against someone else I'd be happy to look in that direction as well. However in the absence of any evidence we're sort of stuck going on "gut."

08-01-2007, 11:35 AM	#1362
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	grrrr for no editing. those are some messy posts. anyways...the url is there, so oh well.

08-01-2007, 11:40 AM	#1363
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Did you break the game?

08-01-2007, 11:40 AM	#1364
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Dude.

08-01-2007, 11:41 AM	#1365
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Maybe you should delete these 2 posts so things don't get so screwy...

08-01-2007, 11:44 AM	#1366
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	This is a test.....

08-01-2007, 11:45 AM	#1367
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Another test....

08-01-2007, 11:46 AM	#1368
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	No matter how I try to post, it's embedding it in your post, DT. That sucks.

08-01-2007, 11:46 AM	#1369
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	test

08-01-2007, 11:46 AM	#1370
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	Shows up just fine for me, KWhit. My post and your posts.

08-01-2007, 11:51 AM	#1372
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	screwey. okay...i'm going to delete those posts so nothing gets broken. jhandley+kwhit+i are here. stupid video-embedding bullcrap

08-01-2007, 11:53 AM	#1373
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	wow. that was impressively fucky-fucky. and all for a video of the Irish-guy in Braveheart. LOL

08-01-2007, 11:53 AM	#1374
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Ah. Fixed now. Thanks.

08-01-2007, 11:55 AM	#1375
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	FYI, here's what I was seeing:

08-01-2007, 12:00 PM	#1380
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	It wasn't an official gm post. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

08-01-2007, 12:01 PM	#1381
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	__________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

08-01-2007, 12:02 PM	#1382
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Wow this is weird. I am seeing everything normal and you guys are all freaking out

08-01-2007, 12:07 PM	#1383
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	I think Telle just leaves herself in the thread because she has been here for hours without saying anything

08-01-2007, 12:13 PM	#1384
Gonzo Mascot Join Date: Jul 2007	Can someone tell me why I might be a wolf, rather than "acting funny"?

08-01-2007, 12:14 PM	#1385
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Because you have 0 posts and that is very wolfish

08-01-2007, 12:14 PM	#1386
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Path.... what are you thinking?

08-01-2007, 12:32 PM	#1389
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I don't have anything solid to back this up, but I don't get the wolf vibe from Gonzo. His posts just come across as pushy villegar to me (nothing wrong with that). I'm trying to decide where my vote's going to go, but I don't think it will be him.

08-01-2007, 12:53 PM	#1391
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	The problem is, we don't have seers. We have seer. We have one guy who can see and one guy who can see if someone is a mad scientist, nothing else. We also don't have a bodyguard anymore. Once the seer and sherlock out themselves, they're toast. No one is going to vote for them, so we won't have voting records to go on at that point. Unless the seer can supply 2 wolves, I don't see how we can win if they out themselves.

08-01-2007, 01:08 PM	#1396
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Yeah I think it's too early too. I think we should leave it up to the seers as to when they reveal themselves. They should know when they feel that they have enough info to make it worthwhile. 'Cause there's also the possibility that most of the people they've checked have been lynched or killed.. and then they'd really not have much of anything to offer us.

08-01-2007, 01:09 PM	#1397
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	It also occured to me last night that the Mad Scientist may be some kind of killswitch for the game. Instead of converting normal players, there's a time limit on how long the game can go on before the Mad Scientist ends the game by creating his army.