Werewolf LVIII: Clash of the Gods (GAME OVER)

[Lathum]

So Anxiety, wanna explain?

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Lathum

it wasn't you.

I thought that my action created your message, and in fact, I thought you even dropped me a hint in a post yesterday that you wanted me to do it again when you told me you guarded me, and you dropped a further hint that you knew it was me when you said that you would believe me.

I guess now I have to fully reveal my role, and you can at least verify that much.

I have the ability to make someone use their power, at whatever level of strength I have. On Day One, I used this power on Lathum to target Barkeep. I do not learn what Lathum can do, and if he ha several powers, he can chose which. At the time, I didn;t trust Barkeep much, so i was hoping I coul dget hims scanned or soothsayinged. I aslo was under the mistake impression that this would be in addition to that person;s nomral role.

This power was described to me as part of me being the God of Bloodlust.

I later had it clarified that it is not in addition to their normal power, it just redirects their power. Thus, if I force LAthum to guard hoopsguy, for example, it would override his normal action, not give him two. THis makes my power much less interesting, and I found this out last night when I asked several clarifying questions.

I've never seen a role before that allows you to trigger a person's power, so I think its neat, but without the ability to double up, it's usefulness seems much less impressive. I could try to get a titan to kil a titan, but without knowing who they are, I'm just as likely to hit one of the big three I suspect.

Anyway, that's my ability and role. I would prefer not to divulge what happened last night, that would give too much away regarding other gods.

[st.cronin]

That actually sounds plausible to me.

[Lathum]

man, I was very popular on night 1

[Lathum]

OK, I will be leaving soon and unles the airport has WiFi I won't be on until after the deadline.

VOTE RACER

Every scenerio where there is a group of people not trusted he comes up in.

[st.cronin]

UNVOTE HOOPSGUY

VOTE RACER

I'm going to follow Lathum; it was actually I who visited him on night 1, and I visited Anxiety last night.

I can't be too sure that either one is good, but to the extent that I have a COT it is those two.

I visited Barkeep on night 2, got there too late.

[Abe Sargent]

And I trust st cronin from last night, and by extension through him, Lathum.

[Lathum]

dola- At least the good thing about not getting my action in last night was I have a clean slate to work with

[Lathum]

It was Cronin who visited me last night

[Lathum]

I mean night 1

[Poli]

In early. Stupid construction company didn't have the conduit ready. We wired the taps at the controller and got the wiring ready for...Wednesday. I have about 4.5 hours before I'm heading down to Perryville.

[PurdueBrad]

Alright, removing my placeholder.

unvote St. Cronin

vote Arlington Colt to placehold.

[st.cronin]

I just want to clarify that I don't FULLY trust either Lathum or Anxiety... I can't actually clear anybody.

On night 1 I actually prevented Lathum's vote from counting. This is why I was so skeptical of all the vote analysis that followed. That was a one-time ability.

I won't say my other abilities are, other than that they are relatively minor in their effects, and what I tried to do to Anxiety last night actually failed.

[Lathum]

why ArlingtonColt?

[Poli]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I just want to clarify that I don't FULLY trust either Lathum or Anxiety... I can't actually clear anybody.

On night 1 I actually prevented Lathum's vote from counting. This is why I was so skeptical of all the vote analysis that followed. That was a one-time ability.

I won't say my other abilities are, other than that they are relatively minor in their effects, and what I tried to do to Anxiety last night actually failed.

Hmm.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by Lathum

why ArlingtonColt?

He has been on my radar a few times for various things he said. Let me go back and dig up somebody else's post that outlined a few of them. Like I said earlier when I put my placeholder on Cronin, I have four that I'm curious about but none are jumping out ahead of any of the others.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

UNVOTE HOOPSGUY

VOTE RACER

I'm going to follow Lathum; it was actually I who visited him on night 1, and I visited Anxiety last night.

I can't be too sure that either one is good, but to the extent that I have a COT it is those two.

I visited Barkeep on night 2, got there too late.

Pssst.. you were actually on Chief Rum, not Hoopsguy.. per post 1313.

[st.cronin]

Doh.

UNVOTE EVERYBODY, INCLUDING CHIEF RUM

VOTE RACER

[st.cronin]

1 AP going to that vote.

[Lathum]

I <3 Cronin
lol

[Poli]

I never understood the <3 thing.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by Lathum

why ArlingtonColt?

Lathum, apparently I made up the post in my head as I can't seem to find it. So, until I either find it or find an argument to vote for him, I'll be moving my vote off AC.

unvote Arlington Colt

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

He has been on my radar a few times for various things he said. Let me go back and dig up somebody else's post that outlined a few of them. Like I said earlier when I put my placeholder on Cronin, I have four that I'm curious about but none are jumping out ahead of any of the others.

It was me who outlined those reasons.

I think the best course of action with him is see if he actualy passes the so called weapon to someone.

Allthough if it doesn't happen tonight I would be skeptical, I can;t imagine an ability that takes until night 5 to go into effect.

[Lathum]

with that I am out.

I may or may not be back on depending on if the airport has internet access.

[Neon_Chaos]

Arlington, any update on the weapon?

[PurdueBrad]

Lathum, I'll go and re-read it (hopefully I can find it although I admittadly looked fairly quickly). That is where I was coming into today, I thought it was odd that something would take four days but I'll give him one last benefit of the doubt. Although it will be concerning if somebody can't step up and vouch for him tomorrow.

[ArlingtonColt]

The only problem with that is my AP's were borked last night... thus screwing me tonight..... I was considering using my Ap's to self preserve (most of the day i was close to vote lead) and didnt change my AP's in time when it looked like I was safe....

I really think the move last night was a move made by the titans. It seemed that most of the olympians got screwed by it in the end... which made it a huge power play. I'm going to vote against Racer tonight.. He seems like the most likely candidate to use that power (voted way early and then wasn't seen again) He probably tipped off his fellow titans as well

[ArlingtonColt]

Vote Racer

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I would really like to hear from Raiders Army at this point to hear more about his trusted list. If we can build off of each of these lists then I think we are in a really strong position right now.

Neon, note that the three names you highlighted there each had zero votes yesterday at the time of the deadline.

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Exactly.

Maybe I'm overthinking it... but maybe the Titans didn't need to get any "correct" vote count... because noone was in danger of being lynched.

I also would like to hear from RA, as to why I'm trusted.

My trust list remains the same: DT, Neon, and Telle. At this point, I understand that most can read between the lines, so you know what my role is. Unfortunately, I did not use my power yesterday (combo of drinking beer and just thinking about voting). I will add another person to my trust list today, possibly two.

[Neon_Chaos]

Pink - No Character reveal
Green - W/ Character reveal

Update on things that have happened:

1) Render - Killed Day 3 Hermes / Olympian
2) Barkeep - Killed Day 2 Zeus / Olympian
3) Chief Rum
4) PurdueBrad
5) St.Cronin - (No claimed Role) (Claims to have the ability to visit someone; visited Lathum/Anxiety)
6) Neon_Chaos - (No claimed Role) (Claims to be able to vouch for Telle)
7) Lathum - (Claims to be Heracles) (Confirms he was visited by st.cronin, says he is the bodyguard)
8) ntndeacon - Lynched Day 2 Dionysus / Olympian
9) ArlingtonColt - (Claims to be Hephaestus)
10) Passacaglia - Killed Day 1 Athena / Olympian
11) Telle - (Claims to be Ascelipus) (Claims that Apollo scanned her, and she knows Achilles is a role in the game, she also knows of a role not in this game)
12) Hoopsguy
13) Path12 - Lynched Day 1 Cronus / Titan
14) Anxiety - (Claims to be Ares) (Claims to have been able to force someone to use their action against their will.)
15) Ardent_Enthusiast
16) Racer
17) DaddyTorgo
18) Raiders Army - (No Claimed Role) (Has come out to say that Neon Chaos, Telle, and DaddyTorgo are good.)
19) Schmidty - Lynched Day 3 Minotaur / Monster

Based on the above, I think the noose is definitely tightening.

We need to consolidate our votes.

Has anyone cleared Chief Rum?

I think we should explore the possibility that there is a titan or two among Chief Rum / ardent enthusiast / Racer.

Fortunately, I can put in 4 points on my actions today, if warranted.

As a placeholder.

Vote Racer

[Abe Sargent]

I don;t know. I never get this stuff.

[Raiders Army]

My vote is still on cronin. I must've missed it, but did Lathum and Anxiety corroborate his visits to them?

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

My vote is still on cronin. I must've missed it, but did Lathum and Anxiety corroborate his visits to them?

Lathum did, RA.

[Neon_Chaos]

Anxiety as well, in fact.

[DaddyTorgo]

i think racer is a very strong candidate for tonight, as well as possibly AE. what he said after I went all bonkers after the early-night about how if he hadn't gotten a vote in earlier he would have pulled a me...that comes off now to me sort of as a titan thumbing their nose a little...

as for CR...he's been helpful, but we know CR can be a helpful-wolf, so he's certainly not clear of anything by virtue of that.

[Neon_Chaos]

ardent, now that you're here, what are your thoughts on Racer, Chief Rum, and quite possibly, to an extent, PurdueBrad and/or hoopsguy?

[Raiders Army]

Okay then.

UNVOTE ST CRONIN

I'll be back before the deadline.

[Poli]

?

It was joke DT. Meh. I'm taking a nap before I head down for the rehearsal. I smell a setup brewing...one where I end up getting lynched while I'm powerless to defend myself.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

?

It was joke DT. Meh. I'm taking a nap before I head down for the rehearsal. I smell a setup brewing...one where I end up getting lynched while I'm powerless to defend myself.

oh i assumed it was a joke too. no hard feelings AE.

just as the list narrows and you're still on it...one could see it in a different light.

FTR...my vote is on Racer and has been since right after the end of the day and I don't think I'll be moving it.

[Poli]

NC: Racer's been...I don't know, hit and miss. I really thought we had him with ntn's statement he got racer drunk, but racer refuted it well enough.

CR: Thought he provided excellent analysis on the first day, but I haven't seen much out of him since. I understand he has different hours like Schmidty did, but for all the help he's been, he hasn't been of late at all.

PB: No read on him whatsoever. First game with him.

Hoops: I was just commenting to my wife last night (before the friggin fight) that I thought hoops seemed strange. I know I've leaned on him in the past to help me through games, but I haven't seen him be of that much help...at least I don't see him to be.

[Poli]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

oh i assumed it was a joke too. no hard feelings AE.

just as the list narrows and you're still on it...one could see it in a different light.

FTR...my vote is on Racer and has been since right after the end of the day and I don't think I'll be moving it.

If Neon had said it, I was have just said, Pulled a Neon. You understand.

I do realize the list is narrowing, but I hardly believe in all the role reveals, and I'm sure as hell not revealing mine.

There's an outside chance that I can be back from the rehearsal, given there's not a WTF ending like last night, before the deadline. We have some dinner afterward. If it lasts less than an hour, I could possibly be back in time.

As for now, I've got to try and decide who I'm going to cast my final vote for and how to handle a night action that might not even happen.

[Poli]

UNVOTE RACER

[Poli]

I will be voting again in the next couple of hours, that's for sure.

[hoopsguy]

Anyone have a vote count? I'll start putting one together if the answer is no.

Like I said earlier, I think we need to have a pretty united front as Olympians with several people limited to one point today. So based on skimming through this, I'll be joining the Racer bandwagon. Both him and Ardent seem like pretty reasonable shots based on the RA trust list, the reveals, and my set of assumptions on Hyperion.

[Neon_Chaos]

You're looking more and more suspicious to me, ae. Very suspicious.

[Poli]

?

[Poli]

I'm sure I do. I'm likely not to be around at the deadline, so of course I'm suspicous.

[PurdueBrad]

I'll go with the crowd here. I was leaning CR but I'll put my vote on racer with my whopping, game-changing one point. My vote really feels like a pinball today.

vote Racer

[Poli]

Screw this. Time to catch up on some sleep.

[DaddyTorgo]

when did AE vote Racer originally? am i crazy, or was it right after me, late last night.

because if it was and Racer turns up a titan, then i think maybe we look at AE and say "he was trying to hide a vote on racer with me, but then pulled his vote when racer got in trouble"

but that's only if racer turns up a titan