Werewolf XXXVIII: Jack The Ripper (GAME OVER! GOOD WINS ON DAY SEVEN) - Page 29

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I recognize that both were urchins, but the question is if they were actually having their actions driven by the bidding of others or if the urchins people pay for were out-of-game constructs to collect information.

I think the bribe urchin is out of the game, and roles like schmidty were the ones robbing people(like DC last night).

dubb93 · 12-01-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Some people are of the belief that dreams actually mean something. I wonder if our weird, drug induced dreams are actually symbols for something. I dreamt of knocking down London Bridge and saw a huge wave about to hit London.

Well, I think the hand about the moon could represent the foggy night last night. As for the rest of it, I can't even take a meaning out of it. Just completely out of left field. Sounds like yours was out of left field too, especially when I remember someone having a dream that actually had substance to it and I believe they posted it earlier in the game.

Swaggs · 12-01-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Some people are of the belief that dreams actually mean something. I wonder if our weird, drug induced dreams are actually symbols for something. I dreamt of knocking down London Bridge and saw a huge wave about to hit London.

My first visit to the opium den yielded, what turned out to be, a real occurrence (bullet and barkeep meeting), so the drugs are capable of giving us seer-like powers. I suspect it is something with very low odds, since, to my knowledge, no one else has had a realistic vision.

Swaggs · 12-01-2006, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Two people, with no clear ties, pointing at Saldana. It suddenly got a lot harder to give Saldana any benefit of the doubt.

Swaggs, can you confirm if Blade was one of the people that learned about you last night?

Yes. Blade visited me in the opium den.

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Yes. Blade visited me in the opium den.

Ill be to the point...much like i learned CWs role on night 1 after seeing him close up, i learned the other persons role after last night. To that end, i dont think its wise to discuss who or what that person is for the time being.

Swaggs · 12-01-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Ill be to the point...much like i learned CWs role on night 1 after seeing him close up, i learned the other persons role after last night. To that end, i dont think its wise to discuss who or what that person is for the time being.

That's fine.

I was just hoping to expand my CoT a bit, but for the time being, I can understand.

Swaggs · 12-01-2006, 01:52 PM

Did anyone make a bid to the urchin(s) on day 2?

Lorena · 12-01-2006, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

Huge news everyone. Last night I saw the second moon of Dune with a hand hoovering over it. And I kept hearing a voice saying "The Spice!, The Spice!, The Spice." over and over again. Then I saw Chana and I was in absolute awe of how hot she used to be. And just when nothing could get any better Moadib! The Mother F'n Sleeper Awakened!

Needless to say at this point I come out of my drug induced trance completely confused and walk home. What a weird night.

I wonder if the Chana part and how hot she "used to be" actually means she used to be a prostitute but maybe she is no longer? Meaning this person might have been converted?

I dunno, I'm looking at my PM and there's mention of Queen Victoria, Big Ben, London Bridge, a lot of fearful Londoners (which a lot of us are with all the robberies and killings and such), people looking different as if they were Japanese, and a tidal wave about to hit London.

Maybe the den part was an added flavor; my PM did say that taking opium might allow me to see something and I was hoping, really hoping that I'd get a vision

Raiders Army · 12-01-2006, 01:54 PM

UNVOTE LSG
VOTE SALDANA

Bye bye sal.

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Did anyone make a bid to the urchin(s) on day 2?

From what i understand no one did..i bid 10 last night and failed, so saldana likely did bid his 13. I just dont think his mission failed, or that he followed me.

path12 · 12-01-2006, 01:56 PM

VOTE SALDANA
NO LYNCH SWAGGS

Insert obligatory pending further info clause here.

Lorena · 12-01-2006, 01:56 PM

So saldana bid 13 shillings to kill the urchin? That's what it sounds like to me.

Swaggs · 12-01-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

From what i understand no one did..i bid 10 last night and failed, so saldana likely did bid his 13. I just dont think his mission failed, or that he followed me.

The reason I ask is because I bid on Day 2 and am curious to see if anyone else won/lost and, if so, what their bids were.

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Saldana, it is pretty hard to ask questions about Blade's story when he has not published the story. I'm around and up for any kind of discussion you want at this time.

You must allow me my secrets hoops, it will be 2 of the past 3 days ive been one of the first 2 to vote a bad guy...so while i might be frustrating you(i certainly have lied and covered false tracks enough to up until now), im doing what i think is best for the side of good. Putting myself out to die basically to give you saldana is worth it for me, as with only 2 bad guys left after that the ratio victory for bad is pretty far off.

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

So saldana bid 13 shillings to kill the urchin? That's what it sounds like to me.

I dont think you can submit a bid to kill the urchin...i think he just said that to reason why him killing schmidty wouldnt make sense. I have no order to kill the urchin, and i whole heartedly expect whoever wins the bidding today to be able to hire the urchin.

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

The reason I ask is because I bid on Day 2 and am curious to see if anyone else won/lost and, if so, what their bids were.

If we havent heared by now id imagine the winner of that bid was a bad guy, possibly lathum. We know now saldana can spend money, so the other bad guys likely can too. We dont have a record of lathum spending any money, so a day 2 bid isnt out of the question.

Lorena · 12-01-2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

So saldana bid 13 shillings to kill the urchin? That's what it sounds like to me.

I should rephrase that, so saldana bid 13 shilling to have blade followed, only to kill the person that was gonna give him info?

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

I should rephrase that, so saldana bid 13 shilling to have blade followed, only to kill the person that was gonna give him info?

Not if you ask me. I think he submitted his bid to follow someone, someone mr. hyde would want info on(possibly me, becuase i hinted yesterday as to my real role). Then when he found out i saw what he did last night, he shifted his story to what you believe. I am under the impression the urchin we bribe is not in the game, becuase if they were they would be LOADED.

st.cronin · 12-01-2006, 02:07 PM

Hoops, do you see any way for Blade and LSG to be evil and trying to lynch saldana for some reason? Maybe saldana is bad but with his own victory condition (moriarty, maybe), and those two are trying to earn trust?

st.cronin · 12-01-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

I think two people learned things about me and they seemed to come away from the conversation with a good impression. I'm not sure if both know of one another, though.

This is not what I asked. What I am curious is if you can identify the player(s) who can clear you.

path12 · 12-01-2006, 02:08 PM

Crap, forgot to bold:

VOTE SALDANA
NO LYNCH SWAGGS

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

This is not what I asked. What I am curious is if you can identify the player(s) who can clear you.

He indentified me, so i would imagine he can identify the other. Why do you have such a vested interest in something i said was better left for another day??

Swaggs · 12-01-2006, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

This is not what I asked. What I am curious is if you can identify the player(s) who can clear you.

I can identify both players by name.

Raiders Army · 12-01-2006, 02:10 PM

Perhaps we should hedge our bets and lynch saldana and Swaggs.

path12 · 12-01-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

I should rephrase that, so saldana bid 13 shilling to have blade followed, only to kill the person that was gonna give him info?

If we think of Barkeeps suggestion that Hyde may not be able to specify who he kills, it might just be that they were in the same area at the same time.....though to be fair, if you knew you couldn't specify you'd probably stay far away from the area where you knew the urchin you hired might be. Or maybe the area and victim for Hyde are random.....

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Perhaps we should hedge our bets and lynch saldana and Swaggs.

Lynch swaggs and ill see to it you go down tomorrow.

st.cronin · 12-01-2006, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

He indentified me, so i would imagine he can identify the other. Why do you have such a vested interest in something i said was better left for another day??

Well, I was hoping he wouldn't identify the player(s) who could clear him, at least not yet. I was just curious if he could.

Raiders Army · 12-01-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Lynch swaggs and ill see to it you go down tomorrow.

You can't do it if you're good.

Raiders Army · 12-01-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

You can't do it if you're good.

To clarify, only evil can kill me! Muah, hahahahahahahahahaha!

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Well, I was hoping he wouldn't identify the player(s) who could clear him, at least not yet. I was just curious if he could.

He had already said he was going to leave it at that, so you prying further only makes you suspicious to me

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

To clarify, only evil can kill me! Muah, hahahahahahahahahaha!

Assumption is the root of all evil

st.cronin · 12-01-2006, 02:16 PM

It appears that a number of cots that I had identified have dissolved.

vote saldana

Still thinking about Swaggs. Earlier in the game there was a theory tossed about that the bad guys did not know one another. Does anybody still subscribe to that?

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:17 PM

By the way, hoops or barkeep or whoever...i still want a list of who the prostitutes are. It would help immensely with my decision for my night action

Raiders Army · 12-01-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

It appears that a number of cots that I had identified have dissolved.

vote saldana

Still thinking about Swaggs. Earlier in the game there was a theory tossed about that the bad guys did not know one another. Does anybody still subscribe to that?

I think Moriarty and Fagin know each other. Sherlock Holmes and Watson are a team, so maybe for game balance Mortiarty and Fagin know each other and can communicate?

st.cronin · 12-01-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

He had already said he was going to leave it at that, so you prying further only makes you suspicious to me

Ok, fagin/moriarity/whoever you are. I believe you about saldana, and maybe about swaggs, but you are playing one strange game if you're a villager.

Raiders Army · 12-01-2006, 02:23 PM

I have decided that I don't know who Sherlock and Watson are, my CoT have dissolved, and this is turning more interesting by the day!

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Ok, fagin/moriarity/whoever you are. I believe you about saldana, and maybe about swaggs, but you are playing one strange game if you're a villager.

Strange or not ive helped land 2 bad guys in the first 4 days...strange would be more like your style, which i cant even describe becuase you havent done anything

Lorena · 12-01-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

If we think of Barkeeps suggestion that Hyde may not be able to specify who he kills, it might just be that they were in the same area at the same time.....though to be fair, if you knew you couldn't specify you'd probably stay far away from the area where you knew the urchin you hired might be. Or maybe the area and victim for Hyde are random.....

Yup, makes sense. The good guy wants info, and out comes the bad guy and blamo, smashes Schmidty to pieces.

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

I have decided that I don't know who Sherlock and Watson are, my CoT have dissolved, and this is turning more interesting by the day!

Welcome back into WW RA, where everyday brings a complete tidal wave to your beliefs and makes you feel like someone is jackhammering your skull

hoopsguy · 12-01-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Hoops, do you see any way for Blade and LSG to be evil and trying to lynch saldana for some reason? Maybe saldana is bad but with his own victory condition (moriarty, maybe), and those two are trying to earn trust?

For both to have information that condemn Saldana - if it turns out that somehow Saldana is not evil - would strongly imply at least one and likely both are evil. However, I don't think the bad guys get to play as factions, unless something like the werewolf has a one-time convert ability. So it would have to be two bad guys playing off one another (seems unlikely) or else one of them was fed fake evidence (probably even more likely).

Most likely scenario seems to be that both of them are telling the truth.

VOTE NO LYNCH SWAGGS
VOTE SALDANA

Tyrith · 12-01-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Welcome back into WW RA, where everyday brings a complete tidal wave to your beliefs and makes you feel like someone is jackhammering your skull

I think the sensation I'd be feeling right now if I was still alive would be like having an icepick jammed in my eye.

Lorena · 12-01-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Strange or not ive helped land 2 bad guys in the first 4 days...strange would be more like your style, which i cant even describe becuase you havent done anything

You keep saying that but the only bad person we've gotten has been Lathum... who was the other person?

hoopsguy · 12-01-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

By the way, hoops or barkeep or whoever...i still want a list of who the prostitutes are. It would help immensely with my decision for my night action

I'm sure I posted it earlier, but here it is again. We started with four, I know three for sure through my interactions: me, Barkeep, and SnDvls. There is very strong evidence to suggest that Izulde is the 4th.

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

For both to have information that condemn Saldana - if it turns out that somehow Saldana is not evil - would strongly imply at least one and likely both are evil. However, I don't think the bad guys get to play as factions, unless something like the werewolf has a one-time convert ability. So it would have to be two bad guys playing off one another (seems unlikely) or else one of them was fed fake evidence (probably even more likely).

Most likely scenario seems to be that both of them are telling the truth.

VOTE NO LYNCH SWAGGS
VOTE SALDANA

I dont mean sound discrediting to my own support, but LSG could very well be evil and figured out im good. Whats a great way to earn trust in that situation? Make up a story about seeing saldana kill swaggs, presenting no new evidence that i hadnt given, and then bask in the newfound trust. Im not saying shes evil, but she is still just about the bottom of my trust list with cronin and DC right now. She hasnt given anything that wasnt public knowledge, and in fact he claims to have done something no one else has yet done this game(witness a murder, that convenienty cancels any night actions, and just stayed home). To be honest, right now id place her as the person who killed mr. w, but thats a guess while swaggs and saldana are facts

st.cronin · 12-01-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm sure I posted it earlier, but here it is again. We started with four, I know three for sure through my interactions: me, Barkeep, and SnDvls. There is very strong evidence to suggest that Izulde is the 4th.

Hoops, do you or the other prosties know who the bordello mum is? (or whatever that title is)

And Blade, please note, I am not asking you to name the player - just asking if hoops could.

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

You keep saying that but the only bad person we've gotten has been Lathum... who was the other person?

Saldana, its day 4...so in the first 4 days would include today DC

Swaggs · 12-01-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Saldana, its day 4...so in the first 4 days would include today DC

DC?

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

DC?

Dodgerchick, who i was replying to

Swaggs · 12-01-2006, 02:40 PM

Nevermind... didn't read that right.

Blade6119 · 12-01-2006, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

And Blade, please note, I am not asking you to name the player - just asking if hoops could.

lol, you know what i feel like now? Heres a hint

Saldana, you just dealt with the dog

12-01-2006, 01:52 PM	#1407
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Did anyone make a bid to the urchin(s) on day 2? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

12-01-2006, 01:56 PM	#1411
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	VOTE SALDANA NO LYNCH SWAGGS Insert obligatory pending further info clause here. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

12-01-2006, 02:07 PM	#1419
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Hoops, do you see any way for Blade and LSG to be evil and trying to lynch saldana for some reason? Maybe saldana is bad but with his own victory condition (moriarty, maybe), and those two are trying to earn trust? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-01-2006, 02:08 PM	#1421
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Crap, forgot to bold: VOTE SALDANA NO LYNCH SWAGGS __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

12-01-2006, 02:16 PM	#1432
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	It appears that a number of cots that I had identified have dissolved. vote saldana Still thinking about Swaggs. Earlier in the game there was a theory tossed about that the bad guys did not know one another. Does anybody still subscribe to that? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

12-01-2006, 01:54 PM	#1409
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	UNVOTE LSG VOTE SALDANA Bye bye sal.

12-01-2006, 01:56 PM	#1412
Lorena Unregistered Join Date: May 2004	So saldana bid 13 shillings to kill the urchin? That's what it sounds like to me.

12-01-2006, 02:10 PM	#1424
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	Perhaps we should hedge our bets and lynch saldana and Swaggs.

12-01-2006, 02:17 PM	#1433
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	By the way, hoops or barkeep or whoever...i still want a list of who the prostitutes are. It would help immensely with my decision for my night action __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

12-01-2006, 02:23 PM	#1436
Raiders Army Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Black Hole	I have decided that I don't know who Sherlock and Watson are, my CoT have dissolved, and this is turning more interesting by the day!

12-01-2006, 02:40 PM	#1449
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Nevermind... didn't read that right. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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