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Old 10-30-2009, 12:44 PM   #1401
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To be fair, I didn't bring you up as a candidate, I agreed with KWhit that you were suspicious and thrust you into the argument. As I've said, perhaps NTN was the better way to go, but if you're a wolf.. I don't there's much of an argument against me at all..
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:44 PM   #1402
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Old 10-30-2009, 12:45 PM   #1403
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If you are not a wolf, the last two wolves have done a fairly good job. One of them certainly has, at least, but we'll be able to go in depth on Monday to look at the candidates.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:19 PM   #1404
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so is nightfall going to be honored?

If we have everyone vote for it, sure.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:26 PM   #1405
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I was pointing out, you could've voted for CW to tie him with ntn if CW was the brutal...if a wolf was going down, you may as well have voted off one that could've taken out a roled villager without threat of the BG protecting them. Of course voting for a villager there is even better, maybe the move against me then gets momentum and ntn survives another day.

But that's all ancillary. The point is, the compelling argument for me here is that you and CW did not want to even consider other candidates. I was the most obvious villager option to target. That CR and lerriuqs were willing to do so while you two wanted to get the game over with immediately allows me to deduce you two must be the final wolves. In the end it doesn't really matter if we hit the brutal or not, because even with that it would be 2-1-1 or 3-2, and even in the first case, with EF's vote, we have enough votes to overcome the wolves + cultist (not to mention the cultist should want to vote with us since they count as a villager and win as a villager at this point).

Thinking about that last point, when we look back at this, Martin will have ended up making a great move. Either you guys vote me off and he wins by getting converted or he sticks around, we vote off the last two wolves, and he wins by being a villager. Even if in the end he did this because he didn't care, it ended up being the right play for him because he basically can't lose now.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:32 PM   #1406
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Well, not technically true. He loses if the wolves convert him and we lynch him off. As the voting has gone today, his odds look excellent though.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:39 PM   #1407
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At least I feel like I solved the mystery. Scooby would be proud, even if he voted for me.
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Old 10-30-2009, 02:01 PM   #1408
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My earlier post regarding my agreement with any nightfall votes still stands, for what it's worth - it does appear that there may be at least some debate at this point, though.
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Old 10-30-2009, 02:51 PM   #1409
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sp is Jag the only nightfall we are waiting for?
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Old 10-30-2009, 03:06 PM   #1410
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sp is Jag the only nightfall we are waiting for?

I haven't voted nightfall either.
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Old 10-30-2009, 03:18 PM   #1411
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VOTE COFFEE WARLORD

Jag is the wrong pick IMO. Can't really back it up with anything else though. It's just a feeling based on the way the past two days have gone.
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Old 10-30-2009, 06:44 PM   #1412
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My daughter's school carnival is tonight at 8:30 PM EST, so I won't be here at deadline. If you guys all vote Nightfall before 8 PM EST, might be able to squeeze in the results at that point.
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Old 10-30-2009, 07:32 PM   #1413
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VOTE NIGHTFALL

No reason not to I guess.
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Old 10-30-2009, 08:05 PM   #1414
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Sorry guys. I saw that vote too late. We're off to the carnival, so it won't be until late.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:20 PM   #1415
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Deadline is past. Good game all. Thanks for the fun Schmidty. One of these days I'll beat you when you're a wolf Jackal. I think you're underrated in that role.
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:47 PM   #1416
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Deadline is past. Good game all. Thanks for the fun Schmidty. One of these days I'll beat you when you're a wolf Jackal. I think you're underrated in that role.

If that's the case it's official... I suck at this game...
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:48 PM   #1417
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dola sorry Schmidty, meant to say stink, that one slipped past.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:50 PM   #1418
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Deadline is past. Good game all. Thanks for the fun Schmidty. One of these days I'll beat you when you're a wolf Jackal. I think you're underrated in that role.

I'm not a wolf.. I hope you're playing around. I think I've played a damn good vanilla game, even if you are a villager. Was a bad call going after you, I suppose, but I'm not upset with play this game.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:54 PM   #1419
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There is absolutely no question this time. Everyone agrees that JAG is not what he seems. He is definitely a fiend.

The police grab the Ghost, who's body language is totally resigned, cuff him, and tear off his mask.

A moment of triumph immediately becomes a moment of agonizing deapair, as you realize that the Ghost was none other than your friend JAG!!!

JAG was a regular Party-goer!!!
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:01 PM   #1420
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Well that sucks
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:03 PM   #1421
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Lousy result.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:03 PM   #1422
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Forlorn and beaten. Those are the only feelings you have right now. Unfortunately, Mr. Price doesn't let you rest even a moment.

"Stop feeling sorry for yourselves. It's Halloween, and this partyisn't over, nor is this mystery. Please join me at the pumpkin carving table."

No one feels like carving pumpkins right now, but what are you supposed to do? You all set in on your pumpkins, fully expecting that one of you will soon be missing.

A half an hour passes, and you are all finished with your pumpkins. Everyone is still here!!!

Maybe things are abou to change for the better!!!
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:05 PM   #1423
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Game over?

If Not...

VOTE MARTIND
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:08 PM   #1424
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Okay so if there were still two wolves and EagleFan doesn't count against the ratio...How is this game still going? Does that mean we're down to one wolf plus MartinD?
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:10 PM   #1425
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Game is still going.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:12 PM   #1426
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Vote MartinD
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:13 PM   #1427
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Okay so if there were still two wolves and EagleFan doesn't count against the ratio...How is this game still going? Does that mean we're down to one wolf plus MartinD?

Read the roles closely please.

If you have a question, please ask me. I'll be happy to clear anything up.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:16 PM   #1428
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The only thing I see that could keep this going is if they didn't submit a night order. Unless I am missing something.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:17 PM   #1429
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The only thing I see that could keep this going is if they didn't submit a night order. Unless I am missing something.

Nope.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:18 PM   #1430
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dola: if that is the case than we can't lynch Martin or we lose.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:20 PM   #1431
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Read the roles closely please.

If you have a question, please ask me. I'll be happy to clear anything up.

Does that mean that Igor doesn't count as a monster in the ratio? It doesn't actually say he counts as a monster if he is kidnapped.

If it's not that, I've missed something entirely...
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:21 PM   #1432
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dola: if that is the case than we can't lynch Martin or we lose.

That's what I'm thinking too...
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:26 PM   #1433
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Does that mean that Igor doesn't count as a monster in the ratio? It doesn't actually say he counts as a monster if he is kidnapped.

If it's not that, I've missed something entirely...

But it says unless he is kidnapped. To me that would mean that he counts when he is converted.

Schmidty, can we get a clarification on that?
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:31 PM   #1434
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There are three options:

1 - Igor counts as villager even after converted.

2 - No night order sent by mistake (they pulled a Schmidty sorry, couldn't resist).

3 - Wolves are toying with us by purposely not submitting a night order.


If it's any of those we lose since I have voted MartinD. I apologize to all for that if that is the case.

If it ends up being option 3 I will have lost any respect for the remaining wolves.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:31 PM   #1435
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Unless I am missing a 4th option somewhere.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:32 PM   #1436
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In this game, "kidnapped" = "night killed" in a normal game.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:34 PM   #1437
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There are three options:

1 - Igor counts as villager even after converted.

2 - No night order sent by mistake (they pulled a Schmidty sorry, couldn't resist).

3 - Wolves are toying with us by purposely not submitting a night order.


If it's any of those we lose since I have voted MartinD. I apologize to all for that if that is the case.

If it ends up being option 3 I will have lost any respect for the remaining wolves.

Agreed. If it's any of this, the game was over when you voted. If it is the case, can you just end if for us Schmidty?
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:35 PM   #1438
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In this game, "kidnapped" = "night killed" in a normal game.

We know that. That doesn't clarify anything...
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:38 PM   #1439
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We know that. That doesn't clarify anything...

I think I see what that means. It means that if the kidnapped Martin he would not have been converted but night killed and become a wolf in that act.

All this time we were interpreting that as converted.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:40 PM   #1440
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There are three options:

1 - Igor counts as villager even after converted.

2 - No night order sent by mistake (they pulled a Schmidty sorry, couldn't resist).

3 - Wolves are toying with us by purposely not submitting a night order.


If it's any of those we lose since I have voted MartinD. I apologize to all for that if that is the case.

If it ends up being option 3 I will have lost any respect for the remaining wolves.

I really don't understand how his role is confusing, but if Igor is kidnapped, he is "converted". As per the rules, he will know the Monsters and they will know him; however, he may not communicate with them, nor does he count as a Monster as far as win conditions (ratio). He wins if they win.

The only thing that I can think of that's confusing is that he loses his "villager" status as well if kidnapped.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:43 PM   #1441
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Here is what is confusing:

"but won't count as one with regard to win conditions. Unless he is kidnapped, he counts as a normal Party-goer"


What does he count as when he is converted/kidnapped?
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:44 PM   #1442
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I really don't understand how his role is confusing, but if Igor is kidnapped, he is "converted". As per the rules, he will know the Monsters and they will know him; however, he may not communicate with them, nor does he count as a Monster as far as win conditions (ratio). He wins if they win.

The only thing that I can think of that's confusing is that he loses his "villager" status as well if kidnapped.

Ok. But as soon as EagleFan voted MartinD, this game was over, Schmidty.

It's 3-2 with Martin D and EF not counting. We don't have enough votes to change the vote the someone else. The game's over now.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:47 PM   #1443
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For the record, I believe the last two wolves are CW and CR...
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:51 PM   #1444
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Of the remaining players that would be my guess, without looking back over the voting history.

If lerriuqs is a wolf I tip my hat to you as you never were someone that I gave a second look at the entire game.
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:54 PM   #1445
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wait.

Unvote MartinD
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:57 PM   #1446
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OK, I need some dialouge here
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Old 10-30-2009, 11:58 PM   #1447
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7 left.

2 wolves

3 villagers

1 Martin

1 EF

Martin and EF don't count as anything

right?
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:01 AM   #1448
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7 left.

2 wolves

3 villagers

1 Martin

1 EF

Martin and EF don't count as anything

right?

That's my understanding and EF has voted Martin so that vote cannot be changed.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:03 AM   #1449
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I reacted too quickly and without thinking (not a surprise there).
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:04 AM   #1450
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My guess is CW is the brutal of those two (hence he kept getting the votes).
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