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Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

you'd rather we follow you?

Most certainly, but others have earned my trust enough where id glady have them followed. Ironically, those players seem to keep getting killed off(lathum, chief, sndvls) and i dont expect that to change

Tyrith · 11-09-2006, 07:54 PM

blade, how much suspicion do you have for alan right now?

DaddyTorgo · 11-09-2006, 07:54 PM

and izulde's recent posts are reminiscent of his posts in the other game i played with him where he was wolf, a resignation of his fate almost and a turn towards more "characterey" posts and less defense of himself.

Swaggs · 11-09-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

I should say, Thomkal is my new #1 after today...he will be my vote tomorrow if i make it, and i really hope at least some of you follow me. Im pretty darn sure NTN will come up good with whos voted for him, and i hope you all remember this post when he does

Blade, who do you suspect more between Izulde and Thomkal?

Swaggs · 11-09-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

I'm not quite sure what relevance this has to anything, but rum does sound good right about now. Do you think you could get me some? We are working to banish the Dark after all, and a dry throat does ill to that end.

Chief Rum's ingame name?

Tyrith · 11-09-2006, 07:56 PM

So if we assume izulde and ntn will eventually trade votes it is currently ntn 8, izulde 7. Sublime could vote for NTN to seal a lynch that way, although that's really not how I want it to go

Grammaticus · 11-09-2006, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Most certainly, but others have earned my trust enough where id glady have them followed. Ironically, those players seem to keep getting killed off(lathum, chief, sndvls) and i dont expect that to change

What did Blade, CR and SnDvls do to earn your trust?

Izulde · 11-09-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Chief Rum's ingame name?

I understood that part, but again, I don't see the relevance. I am hungry, though. Can you get me a sandwich?

Grammaticus · 11-09-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

What did Blade, CR and SnDvls do to earn your trust?

That should read:

Blade, what did Lathum, CR and SnDvls do to earn your trust?

LoneStarGirl · 11-09-2006, 07:57 PM

Blade why do you feel alant is on the dark side? I have a feeling he is a good guy... just an argumentative one.

DaddyTorgo · 11-09-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

So if we assume izulde and ntn will eventually trade votes it is currently ntn 8, izulde 7. Sublime could vote for NTN to seal a lynch that way, although that's really not how I want it to go

well i am being swayed by my association with the less-than-savory characters who have voted for ntn

although as i said in my inital post i see very little to differentiate between the two, izulde's recent posts are raising hairs on the back of my neck (human hairs thank you very much)...but a switch at this point might serve to cast an unfavorable light on myself, no?

Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Blade, who do you suspect more between Izulde and Thomkal?

Thomkal

Tyrith · 11-09-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

well i am being swayed by my association with the less-than-savory characters who have voted for ntn

although as i said in my inital post i see very little to differentiate between the two, izulde's recent posts are raising hairs on the back of my neck (human hairs thank you very much)...but a switch at this point might serve to cast an unfavorable light on myself, no?

Not really. We still have two hours to lynch, so it's not like you're screwing around with anything. You weren't here most of the day, so it's only fair that you get time to consider things.

Swaggs · 11-09-2006, 08:01 PM

Does anyone have an in-game name that is similar to Chief Rum's?

LoneStarGirl · 11-09-2006, 08:01 PM

I really wish some of the guys off of ntn would switch to izulde...

Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Blade why do you feel alant is on the dark side? I have a feeling he is a good guy... just an argumentative one.

He is more by actions...his votes have harmed the village, and maybe by poor judgement or honest error, he is leading others with him. Most of my suspects are voting with him, such as thomkal, and i just dont see much he is doing that really helps the village. He put out ideas, sure, but where have those led us so far? Down all the wrong roads...and today he led us down the NTN road, which i feel will likely end in another wasted day

Grammaticus · 11-09-2006, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Does anyone have an in-game name that is similar to Chief Rum's?

Here is the post from the roster page on CR

25. Chief Rum - Lynched Day Two. Nob the Hobbit Server on the side of Light and Townsfolk

Swaggs, why do you find CR's name of importance?

DaddyTorgo · 11-09-2006, 08:09 PM

UNVOTE NTNDEACON

VOTE IZULDE

Izulde's play at this point is reminding me of when he was wolf in the last game I played with him and he was on the block. Perhaps I am wrong, or perhaps he is indeed an agent of Darkness. In any regard I feel better about this vote now, as Izulde's "defense" of himself has not done anything to ease my suspiscion and I can't forgive myself for lynching yet another fellow villager who has failed to show up to defend himself.

Izulde you really should learn to defend yourself with more conviction...innocent or guilty. Your words here, or more precisely lack-thereof, have condemned you in my eyes.

DaddyTorgo · 11-09-2006, 08:12 PM

ntndeacon appears!

Izulde · 11-09-2006, 08:13 PM

I'm sorry you feel that way, DT.

I have to leave in about 15 minutes and no, I'm not going to be switching off my vote, because I don't have a feel either way about NTN.

Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

That should read:

Blade, what did Lathum, CR and SnDvls do to earn your trust?

I stated on day 2 my reasons for the first 2. Lathum was bad in the football game, and played dramatically differnent. He was very passive agressive and wanted to avoid the spotlight. Here, he played his villager style. Argumentative, volatile, and in the end good.

Chief was much like NTN today...i saw who was voting for him, and connected the dots.

Sndvls made some comments that to me seemed very sage in their wisdom. When hes bad, he likes to become more aggressive. And god forbid you vote him, he screams bloody murder. This game he took the quiet approach, making timely and wise comments when needed and shutting his mouth when he saw it appropriate.

Lathum and Sndvls are off past play styles, chief was because of who it was taking him down.

ntndeacon · 11-09-2006, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

4 - izulde - lsg (1185), brian (1336), blade (1347), tyrith (1348)
4 - ntn - alan (1247), jonathan (1248), schmidty (1340), mr.w (1364)
2 - lsg - izulde (1237), gram (1331)
1 - daddy - swaggs (1258)
1 - mr.w - dodger (1274)
1 - tyrith - spleen (1202)

NO VOTE: daddy, ntn, sublime, thomkal

I don't know what the vote is now as I am not that far yet.
Vote Izulde

Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

I'm sorry you feel that way, DT.

I have to leave in about 15 minutes and no, I'm not going to be switching off my vote, because I don't have a feel either way about NTN.

This is either becuase he knows he has friends coming like sublime, or they are both bad. I just dont see a way as a villager he would not swap to save his own life. It doesnt make sense to me, im sorry

Izulde · 11-09-2006, 08:15 PM

And before somebody says, "But you voted for lynches before!", yeah, I did, because we had the numbers where a lynch was more advantageous than not.

But we're running short of Light people now, which means I don't want to lynch unless I'm as close to darned certain as I can be without seeing the flashing neon red sign over their heads.

Izulde · 11-09-2006, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

This is either becuase he knows he has friends coming like sublime, or they are both bad. I just dont see a way as a villager he would not swap to save his own life. It doesnt make sense to me, im sorry

Because I'm of the Light and I'm playing that role? You'll notice I did it early in the game, but then backed off it when nobody seemed to be paying attention to it.

Izulde · 11-09-2006, 08:18 PM

I'm even so Light, I'd let a homeless man who has nothing to eat and has to beg for everything live in my warren.

Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Blade, who do you suspect more between Izulde and Thomkal?

And i think regardless of what goes down today, i am close to certain i need to take him down tomorrow. I dont have some dead set fact, and wouldnt mind a sublime or whoever lynch, but i have made up my mind. Thomkal is my first im certain pick all game.

Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

Because I'm of the Light and I'm playing that role? You'll notice I did it early in the game, but then backed off it when nobody seemed to be paying attention to it.

And im freaking crazy, really, but my role's crazyness doesnt have restrictions about who i can and cant vote for or how many times i must do something.

DaddyTorgo · 11-09-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

And i think regardless of what goes down today, i am close to certain i need to take him down tomorrow. I dont have some dead set fact, and wouldnt mind a sublime or whoever lynch, but i have made up my mind. Thomkal is my first im certain pick all game.

careful blade

Tyrith · 11-09-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

And i think regardless of what goes down today, i am close to certain i need to take him down tomorrow. I dont have some dead set fact, and wouldnt mind a sublime or whoever lynch, but i have made up my mind. Thomkal is my first im certain pick all game.

Why are you so certain?

Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

careful blade

Did i strike a nerve? Hes caught my eye more then anyone has this game, i cant lie about that fact. Id lynch him right now if i could instead of NTN or izulde. My fortunes tomorrow are tied to my 3rd best suspect. Im simply stating my opinion, id rather have thomkal or sublime.

Izulde · 11-09-2006, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

And im freaking crazy, really, but my role's crazyness doesnt have restrictions about who i can and cant vote for or how many times i must do something.

Well, the way you've constructed it, I'm looking either like an idiot (if I don't switch) or self-serving (if I do switch). So yeah, given the ogre's choice, I'll take the noble way.

DaddyTorgo · 11-09-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Did i strike a nerve? Hes caught my eye more then anyone has this game, i cant lie about that fact. Id lynch him right now if i could instead of NTN or izulde. My fortunes tomorrow are tied to my 3rd best suspect. Im simply stating my opinion, id rather have thomkal or sublime.

a nerve? you didn't strike a nerve, but you just put a almighty big target on your back for the Dark.

Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

Why are you so certain?

Just a gut wrenching feeling. His vote for ntn, the mannor it was placed and its timing, just set off all kinds of alarms. You will see he was my 2b suspect this morning, and was strongly tied to schmidty in my mind. Both of their actions today make me think badly of both. And i would much rather lynch thomkal then schmidty who hinted at some grand role(and i believe the bodyguard is dead, as in the dead towns guardsman) so i see no reason he didnt die last night.

Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

a nerve? you didn't strike a nerve, but you just put a almighty big target on your back for the Dark.

How so?

ntndeacon · 11-09-2006, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

FWIW, the other game i played with izulde when he was on the block and later revealed to be a wolf he was much more vehament in his own defense. but he could still be guilty and just be playing it a different way.

ntndeacon seems almost like it's more of just "clearing out the non-participant" type vote....everyone else has participated to varying degrees that are more than he has though.

That is exactly what it seems to me as well, DaddyTorgo. And a clearing out of the nonparticipant vote is rather random at day 3. Especially when the non participant has been quiet in most of the games he has played. (I will grant I have been more quiet this game but idoubt it is by as much as people say.)

DaddyTorgo · 11-09-2006, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

How so?

laying things out so openly, no? remember my first game i asked why people didn't more often, and you explained that it made you a target? i am beginning to understand that more is all.

Izulde · 11-09-2006, 08:27 PM

DT, don't you think the homeless in the war that threatens Middle Earth should have places to go? I do.

ntndeacon · 11-09-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

ntndeacon appears!

my practice took a bit longer than I thought.

Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

Well, the way you've constructed it, I'm looking either like an idiot (if I don't switch) or self-serving (if I do switch). So yeah, given the ogre's choice, I'll take the noble way.

I certainly respect your nobility, and if good hearted im sorry if you go down. You arent my top suspect, but your up there. I will say this, as Valen Gutters is my witness, i will go to death fighting for the village...in whatever capactity i think will best serve the group. I wont play it nice or back off becuase someone is acting upset. I have told the group my honest thoughts every step of the way, told everyone my role on day one if the paid VERY close attention(no one has been close, so i guess no one was). I can do no more then that, though if i was up for a lynch i would know even it was 1% the other guy was bad, that 1% would be more then i knew i was bad(0%) and i would take the chance.

Swaggs · 11-09-2006, 08:27 PM

Daddy, are you of the side of light?

Tyrith · 11-09-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Just a gut wrenching feeling. His vote for ntn, the mannor it was placed and its timing, just set off all kinds of alarms. You will see he was my 2b suspect this morning, and was strongly tied to schmidty in my mind. Both of their actions today make me think badly of both. And i would much rather lynch thomkal then schmidty who hinted at some grand role(and i believe the bodyguard is dead, as in the dead towns guardsman) so i see no reason he didnt die last night.

The guard died last night, so he would have been alive to protect, to the wolves' knowledge at least.

Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

laying things out so openly, no? remember my first game i asked why people didn't more often, and you explained that it made you a target? i am beginning to understand that more is all.

Oh, i full heartedly agree...the one uniqueness to my situation, as im sure you have clearly observed, is most players think im crazy, not even just this game with my role, and dont like me all too much. That gives me the leverage of being a likely lynch victim in most games, and therefore not as much of a target for the wolves. Though, knock on wood, saying it likely ended the nice effect it was having.

At this point in the game though, i dont see myself and alan living long unless were bad. So i figure now that most of the vocal vets are dead, i already have a target on my back and might as well go down swinging

Blade6119 · 11-09-2006, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrith

The guard died last night, so he would have been alive to protect, to the wolves' knowledge at least.

Before he died i would have said the herbalist was the BG, so i viewed it as the BG has been dead since night 1. Im working under the assumption, with the kills they have been making, they have worried much about the BG either.

Sublime 2 · 11-09-2006, 08:33 PM

Vote Izulde

Sorry guys, I know a vote and run is generally looked down upon, but I havne't been around much for the day because of exams, and right now I'm getting ready for my drive back to NH. I won't be home till 1030-11ish.

DaddyTorgo · 11-09-2006, 08:33 PM

I am. And I invite our seer to examine that for themself and assure you of that. I stand by my voting record as perhaps not distinguished in this game, but certainly nothing aberrant.

I understand what you're saying Blade. That makes sense.

ntndeacon · 11-09-2006, 08:34 PM

there is a name I have not heard mentioned as a suspect. I wonder about Johnathan. He is one of the names that no one has questioned (aloud) I know it sounds a bit like retribution (He was the second vote on me today) I have been uneasy with some of his play. If you ask me for specifics I couldn't give it to you. But it has been bothering me. and with me being this close to not being able to contribute, iwanted to wonder aloud about him.

DaddyTorgo · 11-09-2006, 08:35 PM

Swaggs...where is your vote right now? I am beginning to believe I may have been led astray (comments made by you and Izulde)

Swaggs · 11-09-2006, 08:36 PM

Ntn or Izulde, do you have anything to contribute to the cause of light? I'm not sensing much urgency from either of you, with your heads on the line.

Swaggs · 11-09-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Swaggs...where is your vote right now? I am beginning to believe I may have been led astray (comments made by you and Izulde)

My vote is on Izulde.

11-09-2006, 08:01 PM	#1414
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Does anyone have an in-game name that is similar to Chief Rum's? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-09-2006, 08:13 PM	#1420
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	I'm sorry you feel that way, DT. I have to leave in about 15 minutes and no, I'm not going to be switching off my vote, because I don't have a feel either way about NTN. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

11-09-2006, 08:15 PM	#1424
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	And before somebody says, "But you voted for lynches before!", yeah, I did, because we had the numbers where a lynch was more advantageous than not. But we're running short of Light people now, which means I don't want to lynch unless I'm as close to darned certain as I can be without seeing the flashing neon red sign over their heads. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

11-09-2006, 08:18 PM	#1426
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	I'm even so Light, I'd let a homeless man who has nothing to eat and has to beg for everything live in my warren. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

11-09-2006, 08:27 PM	#1438
Izulde Head Coach Join Date: Sep 2004	DT, don't you think the homeless in the war that threatens Middle Earth should have places to go? I do. __________________ 2006 Golden Scribe Nominee 2006 Golden Scribe Winner Best Non-Sport Dynasty: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty) Rookie Writer of the Year Dynasty of the Year: May Our Reign Be Green and Golden (CK Dynasty)

11-09-2006, 07:54 PM	#1402
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	blade, how much suspicion do you have for alan right now?

11-09-2006, 07:54 PM	#1403
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	and izulde's recent posts are reminiscent of his posts in the other game i played with him where he was wolf, a resignation of his fate almost and a turn towards more "characterey" posts and less defense of himself.

11-09-2006, 07:56 PM	#1406
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	So if we assume izulde and ntn will eventually trade votes it is currently ntn 8, izulde 7. Sublime could vote for NTN to seal a lynch that way, although that's really not how I want it to go

11-09-2006, 07:57 PM	#1410
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Blade why do you feel alant is on the dark side? I have a feeling he is a good guy... just an argumentative one.

11-09-2006, 08:01 PM	#1415
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	I really wish some of the guys off of ntn would switch to izulde...

11-09-2006, 08:09 PM	#1418
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	UNVOTE NTNDEACON VOTE IZULDE Izulde's play at this point is reminding me of when he was wolf in the last game I played with him and he was on the block. Perhaps I am wrong, or perhaps he is indeed an agent of Darkness. In any regard I feel better about this vote now, as Izulde's "defense" of himself has not done anything to ease my suspiscion and I can't forgive myself for lynching yet another fellow villager who has failed to show up to defend himself. Izulde you really should learn to defend yourself with more conviction...innocent or guilty. Your words here, or more precisely lack-thereof, have condemned you in my eyes.

11-09-2006, 08:12 PM	#1419
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	ntndeacon appears!

11-09-2006, 08:27 PM	#1441
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Daddy, are you of the side of light? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-09-2006, 08:33 PM	#1445
Sublime 2 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New Hampshire	Vote Izulde Sorry guys, I know a vote and run is generally looked down upon, but I havne't been around much for the day because of exams, and right now I'm getting ready for my drive back to NH. I won't be home till 1030-11ish.

11-09-2006, 08:33 PM	#1446
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I am. And I invite our seer to examine that for themself and assure you of that. I stand by my voting record as perhaps not distinguished in this game, but certainly nothing aberrant. I understand what you're saying Blade. That makes sense.

11-09-2006, 08:34 PM	#1447
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	there is a name I have not heard mentioned as a suspect. I wonder about Johnathan. He is one of the names that no one has questioned (aloud) I know it sounds a bit like retribution (He was the second vote on me today) I have been uneasy with some of his play. If you ask me for specifics I couldn't give it to you. But it has been bothering me. and with me being this close to not being able to contribute, iwanted to wonder aloud about him.

11-09-2006, 08:35 PM	#1448
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Swaggs...where is your vote right now? I am beginning to believe I may have been led astray (comments made by you and Izulde)

11-09-2006, 08:36 PM	#1449
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Ntn or Izulde, do you have anything to contribute to the cause of light? I'm not sensing much urgency from either of you, with your heads on the line. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

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