NFL Divisional Playoff Thread - Page 3

MizzouRah · 01-14-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Yeah, for ST Louis. That's who Jeff Fisher wants as his DC.

I saw the name Gregg Williams earlier in this thread and I thought.. please don't be the Gregg Williams Fisher wants as his DC.

Jas_lov · 01-14-2012, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

SF would scare me, because their defense is outstanding and consistent and their team plays extremely disciplined. With a defense like Green Bay has, it would likely end up being a very similar game to this one.

The Saints scored 32 points on that defense despite committing 5 turnovers. The Packers don't turn the ball over and they'll be playing at home. I like their chances if they can get by the Giants who pose a much greater threat on offense.

BYU 14 · 01-14-2012, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

The Saints DC is probably going to need to pack his things after the plane ride.

This is one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't situations. People always bemoan the prevent defense, but should they have used it here? He stayed aggressive those last 2 drives and it bit him, but to give credit where it's due Smith made some money throws as well.

Tough decision on how to play it either way.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 07:27 PM

The Bronco offensive line is playing like garbage. 3 pass attempts and the pocket has completely collapsed twice. With the Patriots scoring at will, the line must play better.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

I saw the name Gregg Williams earlier in this thread and I thought.. please don't be the Gregg Williams Fisher wants as his DC.

That style won the Saints a Super Bowl where he shut down the Colts to win it. I don't think you'll be that upset with him.

tucker rocky · 01-14-2012, 07:29 PM

Tebow sacked, fumbles the ball,

Mustang · 01-14-2012, 07:30 PM

This game just needed Gus Johnson announcing in the last 5 minutes.

k0ruptr · 01-14-2012, 07:30 PM

Hernandez is the pats best rb

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 07:31 PM

I don't mind Hernandez getting carries. He isn't a running back. I firmly believe he'll fumble if they keep this up. The problem is it won't matter because Denver will be down 28-0 by the time it happens.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 07:33 PM

The defense isn't bothering to show up at all. This is just brutal. I know Brady is terrific, but the Broncos aren't even taking away his #1 read. He's looking at one guy every play and carving them up. The one good thing about Tebow's run is that Denver will take defense in the draft instead of QB. They need more players on that side of that ball.

sabotai · 01-14-2012, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

This game just needed Gus Johnson announcing in the last 5 minutes.

Not worth having him for the first 55 minutes.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 07:38 PM

That's a horrible call. Not that it matters, but the ball was clearly moving after it hit the ground. I don't understand that one at all.

Grover · 01-14-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

This is one of those damned if you do, damned if you don't situations. People always bemoan the prevent defense, but should they have used it here? He stayed aggressive those last 2 drives and it bit him, but to give credit where it's due Smith made some money throws as well.

Tough decision on how to play it either way.

I think constantly leaving Davis in single coverage when he had more than twice the yards of the next closest Niners receiver (who happened to be Gore) was fatal. Double him up, nobody else was beating them.

And besides, pretty sure they were playing single coverage bump and run with a cover 1.

Senator · 01-14-2012, 07:42 PM

The Patriots might score every drive tonight.

Dutch · 01-14-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

The Patriots might score every drive tonight.

Yeah, this is gonna be ugly.

Dutch · 01-14-2012, 07:44 PM

Fumble or was forward progress stopped?

Dutch · 01-14-2012, 07:44 PM

lol...

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

The Patriots might score every drive tonight.

And on some of the Broncos drives too.

The Broncos line is just getting abused. I mean, they can't block anyone right now.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 07:47 PM

For the love of God. Tebow makes a perfect throw and it's a flat out drop.

Dutch · 01-14-2012, 07:50 PM

Tom Brady's mom called said wrap this up quick, Miss America Pageant on in 30.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 07:50 PM

Well, that was a huge play.

Dutch · 01-14-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Tom Brady's mom called said wrap this up quick, Miss America Pageant on in 30.

Shut up, mom!

k0ruptr · 01-14-2012, 07:51 PM

Aaron Hernandez: TE, RB, LB ...

Senator · 01-14-2012, 07:53 PM

must convert - must

k0ruptr · 01-14-2012, 07:53 PM

QB draw, thats my call

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 07:53 PM

Tebow is actually having a pretty solid day throwing the ball. I knew the Patriots would force them to throw the ball underneath and he's been fairly accurate with those throws, hitting guys in stride. That last drive ended because of a Thomas drop on a perfect throw. That was a huge third down throw there.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 07:56 PM

TD Donkies. Woo hoo.

Senator · 01-14-2012, 08:01 PM

It almost seems wise to bracket the TE's of NE but that leaves Welker one one one, so wow...

NE defense says, ok, nothing long, make him drive the field. Good strategy.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

It almost seems wise to bracket the TE's of NE but that leaves Welker one one one, so wow...

NE defense says, ok, nothing long, make him drive the field. Good strategy.

Great strategy. I figured that would be the strategy too. Who cares if you give up some 11 or 12 yard runs, make the Bronocs drive down in bits and pieces. They haven't shown the ability to do that consistently all year.

As for the Denver defense, I'm really not sure what they are doing now and I'm not sure they know what they are doing. Their only chance is to tackle well and get pressure on Brady. They aren't doing either (credit to the Pats O line for the second part)

Huge dropped INT there. Ugh. And a stop. Woo hoo.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 08:05 PM

That was horrific by Royal there. Catch the ball at the 11. Pats already had plenty of guys back. You just cost the team 6 yards and now put them near the goal line. Be smart.

Dutch · 01-14-2012, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

Huge dropped INT there. Ugh.

Those are killers when you are that kind of an underdog. You just aren't going to get that many opportunities against the Patriots but when they are there you have to take them.

Crapshoot · 01-14-2012, 08:08 PM

Just got back from the 49ers game. Other then the famous Giants game and the Packers game that ended with a TO touchdown catch - that was the best game I've been to. The stick was rocking!!!!!

Senator · 01-14-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF

That was horrific by Royal there. Catch the ball at the 11. Pats already had plenty of guys back. You just cost the team 6 yards and now put them near the goal line. Be smart.

I have seen some really poor decision making on special teams the past few weeks. Guys running it out 6 yards deep on kickoffs and getting nailed at the 10, or return men letting it bounce instead of doing their job and fair catching it, getting their team pinned. I have seen my brother go postal on his high school team for things like that, much less at this level.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 08:10 PM

I'm sorry, that's too conservative there. I'm an advocate of throwing the ball more on first down. But when you actually get a stop against the Pats, you have to be aggressive there. Running three straight times and out is not a smart move.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 08:13 PM

Just what Denver needs, some injuries in the secondary. Bush got his first major action last week. (was special teamer until then) Last week he plays in the dime and now he's our safety against Tom Brady. Yikes.

Senator · 01-14-2012, 08:14 PM

I think the Broncos best bet is a 3 man front.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 08:15 PM

Broncos continuing to rush three guys. I don't usually like that strategy, but maybe they have to do something to slow these guys down.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

I think the Broncos best bet is a 3 man front.

I think as a changeup, but I just can't see it working long term. I think the key there was being so conservative on offense. I just don't think this Denver team can keep up with the Patriots if they are trying run, run, run.

You have nothing to lose at this point. Let Tebow throw the ball and what happens, happens.

stevew · 01-14-2012, 08:21 PM

I'm amazed that Simms can commentate with Brady's cock deep in his mouth.

(Not that Brady isn't awesome)

Senator · 01-14-2012, 08:22 PM

Field position destruction

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 08:25 PM

whew. Thank you Branch, for acting like a Denver WR.

Senator · 01-14-2012, 08:26 PM

Broncos O needs to go for it.

Senator · 01-14-2012, 08:27 PM

Somehow getting into the halftime at 21-14 would be huge. Down 28-7, not so much.

TroyF · 01-14-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

Somehow getting into the halftime at 21-14 would be huge. Down 28-7, not so much.

yeah, would have been huge to cut the lead.

A pretty sad game from the OLine tonight. Not on the runs, but they aren't protecting Tebow at all. The pocket has consistently collapsed from all sides. With Tebow, all you have to do is block one side well and he can move away from the rush. When the entire pocket gets wiped out, he isn't going to have a chance.

I really thought the line would play better tonight. Didn't think we'd have a chance in hell of winning the game, but I thought the OLine would at least give Denver a chance. Not happening.

Combine that with the defense getting torched and NE goes to the AFC Title game.

stevew · 01-14-2012, 08:36 PM

That's gonna leave a mark.

tucker rocky · 01-14-2012, 08:39 PM

Denver must've drank the wrong witches brew.

Dutch · 01-14-2012, 08:40 PM

Boring game, i feel like I'm watching the Bucs...can't take much more of this.

Julio Riddols · 01-14-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

The Saints scored 32 points on that defense despite committing 5 turnovers. The Packers don't turn the ball over and they'll be playing at home. I like their chances if they can get by the Giants who pose a much greater threat on offense.

Yeah, but every offense poses a great threat against the Packers defense. Just sayin. I still predict a very similar game if they do meet up.

stevew · 01-14-2012, 08:42 PM

Colquitt is punting like a girl today.

Senator · 01-14-2012, 08:42 PM

3 more points for NE before half?

01-14-2012, 07:30 PM	#107
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01-14-2012, 07:30 PM	#108
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Hernandez is the pats best rb __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

01-14-2012, 07:42 PM	#114
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	The Patriots might score every drive tonight. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

01-14-2012, 07:51 PM	#123
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	Aaron Hernandez: TE, RB, LB ... __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

01-14-2012, 07:53 PM	#124
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	must convert - must __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

01-14-2012, 07:27 PM	#104
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	The Bronco offensive line is playing like garbage. 3 pass attempts and the pocket has completely collapsed twice. With the Patriots scoring at will, the line must play better.

01-14-2012, 07:29 PM	#106
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Tebow sacked, fumbles the ball,

01-14-2012, 07:31 PM	#109
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I don't mind Hernandez getting carries. He isn't a running back. I firmly believe he'll fumble if they keep this up. The problem is it won't matter because Denver will be down 28-0 by the time it happens.

01-14-2012, 07:33 PM	#110
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	The defense isn't bothering to show up at all. This is just brutal. I know Brady is terrific, but the Broncos aren't even taking away his #1 read. He's looking at one guy every play and carving them up. The one good thing about Tebow's run is that Denver will take defense in the draft instead of QB. They need more players on that side of that ball.

01-14-2012, 07:38 PM	#112
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	That's a horrible call. Not that it matters, but the ball was clearly moving after it hit the ground. I don't understand that one at all.

01-14-2012, 07:44 PM	#116
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Fumble or was forward progress stopped?

01-14-2012, 07:44 PM	#117
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	lol...

01-14-2012, 07:47 PM	#119
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	For the love of God. Tebow makes a perfect throw and it's a flat out drop.

01-14-2012, 07:50 PM	#120
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Tom Brady's mom called said wrap this up quick, Miss America Pageant on in 30.

01-14-2012, 07:50 PM	#121
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Well, that was a huge play.

01-14-2012, 07:53 PM	#125
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	QB draw, thats my call __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

01-14-2012, 07:53 PM	#126
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Tebow is actually having a pretty solid day throwing the ball. I knew the Patriots would force them to throw the ball underneath and he's been fairly accurate with those throws, hitting guys in stride. That last drive ended because of a Thomas drop on a perfect throw. That was a huge third down throw there.

01-14-2012, 07:56 PM	#127
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	TD Donkies. Woo hoo.

01-14-2012, 08:01 PM	#128
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	It almost seems wise to bracket the TE's of NE but that leaves Welker one one one, so wow... NE defense says, ok, nothing long, make him drive the field. Good strategy. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

01-14-2012, 08:05 PM	#130
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	That was horrific by Royal there. Catch the ball at the 11. Pats already had plenty of guys back. You just cost the team 6 yards and now put them near the goal line. Be smart.

01-14-2012, 08:08 PM	#132
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Just got back from the 49ers game. Other then the famous Giants game and the Packers game that ended with a TO touchdown catch - that was the best game I've been to. The stick was rocking!!!!!

01-14-2012, 08:10 PM	#134
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I'm sorry, that's too conservative there. I'm an advocate of throwing the ball more on first down. But when you actually get a stop against the Pats, you have to be aggressive there. Running three straight times and out is not a smart move.

01-14-2012, 08:13 PM	#135
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Just what Denver needs, some injuries in the secondary. Bush got his first major action last week. (was special teamer until then) Last week he plays in the dime and now he's our safety against Tom Brady. Yikes.

01-14-2012, 08:14 PM	#136
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	I think the Broncos best bet is a 3 man front. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

01-14-2012, 08:15 PM	#137
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Broncos continuing to rush three guys. I don't usually like that strategy, but maybe they have to do something to slow these guys down.

01-14-2012, 08:21 PM	#139
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	I'm amazed that Simms can commentate with Brady's cock deep in his mouth. (Not that Brady isn't awesome)

01-14-2012, 08:22 PM	#140
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Field position destruction __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

01-14-2012, 08:25 PM	#141
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	whew. Thank you Branch, for acting like a Denver WR.

01-14-2012, 08:26 PM	#142
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Broncos O needs to go for it. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

01-14-2012, 08:27 PM	#143
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Somehow getting into the halftime at 21-14 would be huge. Down 28-7, not so much. __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

01-14-2012, 08:36 PM	#145
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	That's gonna leave a mark.

01-14-2012, 08:39 PM	#146
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Denver must've drank the wrong witches brew.

01-14-2012, 08:40 PM	#147
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Boring game, i feel like I'm watching the Bucs...can't take much more of this.

01-14-2012, 08:42 PM	#149
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Colquitt is punting like a girl today.

01-14-2012, 08:42 PM	#150
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	3 more points for NE before half? __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand