1969 Offseason Thread

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Didn't you already figure this out? You said above you dropped a player with a salary. I guess even though he isn't on your roster anymore, he is still a part of your player expenses for this year.

I thought so, but how am I able to get under the cap if it will not take them off of my expenses?

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Didn't you already figure this out? You said above you dropped a player with a salary. I guess even though he isn't on your roster anymore, he is still a part of your player expenses for this year.

But he wouldn't show up on the salary cap figure.

They have until the start of the season to get under the cap. This was just the cap check.

I'm running stuff now.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

I thought so, but how am I able to get under the cap if it will not take them off of my expenses?

If you release them, they'll be off your cap. Player expenses is different than the cap and all it does is make you pay them, but they come off the cap.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

If you release them, they'll be off your cap. Player expenses is different than the cap and all it does is make you pay them, but they come off the cap.

Well, then , we're back to the question of how Commo's numbers are different. If it's the released player thing, why is he being shown as over the cap?

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

If you release them, they'll be off your cap. Player expenses is different than the cap and all it does is make you pay them, but they come off the cap.

That is the problem I have no idea who makes what since my salary report says I am on the dot. In fact out of the top teams all are under except Compton at 65.6 million and Valdosta at 65.55 million when you look at all levels.

[Young Drachma]

I've calculated the cap the same way each season using the same figure from the same place.

[Commo_Soldier]

Ok, I finally found out why I am above. It is because I brought up all my minor-league contracts due to spring training.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I've calculated the cap the same way each season using the same figure from the same place.

Hmm, why are you having to calculate the cap? The game doesn't do this itself?

[Commo_Soldier]

After reviewing this I think we should look at the salary reports as well and add up any players making money in the minors. There were only about 4 teams, but their salaries do not show up on your cap number because they are not on the active roster and this could be a way to stash players and circumvent the cap.

[Young Drachma]

Packing and uploading the file now.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

After reviewing this I think we should look at the salary reports as well and add up any players making money in the minors. There were only about 4 teams, but their salaries do not show up on your cap number because they are not on the active roster and this could be a way to stash players and circumvent the cap.

Hmm, but I know that's not always true. A couple of the big contracts I handed out on first joining the league didn't end up being such good contracts, and I had them in the minors for the last couple of years of those deals. I remember seeing those ugly contracts on my salary list every year they were there, lol.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Hmm, why are you having to calculate the cap? The game doesn't do this itself?

I'm not "calculating" anything. I read what the game says player payroll is at, using where it's located on the financial report generated by the game.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

After reviewing this I think we should look at the salary reports as well and add up any players making money in the minors. There were only about 4 teams, but their salaries do not show up on your cap number because they are not on the active roster and this could be a way to stash players and circumvent the cap.

The game calculates an active roster payroll number that separates it from the minor league salaries. I think that we'll start using that number, rather than the one we've been using. I wanted to do this in the past, but at the time, I was afraid it'd look like a self-serving measure to keep Compton under the cap.

Given the current status of things with more teams having the problem, it seems that would be a smarter way to go and it would be less rancor incurring a decision to make.

I'll show a screen shot of what I'm talking about, after the file goes up, because I don't have access to do that right now since it's packing.

[Commo_Soldier]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

The game calculates an active roster payroll number that separates it from the minor league salaries. I think that we'll start using that number, rather than the one we've been using. I wanted to do this in the past, but at the time, I was afraid it'd look like a self-serving measure to keep Compton under the cap.

Given the current status of things with more teams having the problem, it seems that would be a smarter way to go and it would be less rancor incurring a decision to make.

I'll show a screen shot of what I'm talking about, after the file goes up, because I don't have access to do that right now since it's packing.

I know what you were talking about now, it was just that I did not factor in the minor league contracts.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

I know what you were talking about now, it was just that I did not factor in the minor league contracts.

Well it won't be a problem in the future. We'll only calculate the cap using the active roster figure starting on opening day. So it'll just count the 25-man roster and that'll be it, so that'll keep it simpler for everyone.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

After reviewing this I think we should look at the salary reports as well and add up any players making money in the minors. There were only about 4 teams, but their salaries do not show up on your cap number because they are not on the active roster and this could be a way to stash players and circumvent the cap.

But, DC, if we do that, doesn't the scenario put up by Commo_Soldier here then become a firm reality? I would want avoid this practice. Buying minor league players is no longer so common a practice as it was. Minor league contracts should not be large as a matter of natural course, and I think they should count against the cap.

[Alan T]

Ahh man, I didn't even think about the fact that bringing guys up for spring training was going to affect cap numbers.. sometimes I hate this game.

[Alan T]

Oh, it doesn't seem like a big deal after all. When I demote the players back to AAA after spring training, it brings my salary back below cap again. For a second I was afraid that this game was really stupid in how it handles spring training salaries.