Group Think - 1990 Regular Season

[DolaBump]

The big problem when we were losing is that we got so far behind so early, the OX was taken out of the game -- now we're the toast of talk radio, heading into the playofs on an 8 game win streak. Which of course, probably means nothing.

Anyway, I've been very happy to see our D playing much better, and it seems like a lot of that comes from getting more pressure, though I'm not exactly sure why we're getting more pressure but I'll take it.

[wade moore]

Prime,

Crap... looks like I didn't save after the last game then...

ARGH!... I guess we'll have to wait until I can get home tonight to save and reup the files, I apologize guys ... If we're in that big of a hurry we could redo the last game... otherwise, we can just relax until this evening and prime or I can sim at that point..

[Bee]

I was thinking similar thoughts as Quiksand concerning the ease of the game. The one thing I would point out though is many of our house rules won't really kick in for a couple seasons. Many have to do with negotiations, contracts, etc. At that point, I think we might have some problems with the salary cap that could give us problems.

I agree the game seems to continually get easier (or we are getting better?) every version and I think there really needs to be difficulty levels that actually have serious effects to the game's difficulty.

[primelord]

Wade,

If you have the game saved at home with the last game played then I don't see any problem waiting until tonight.

[wade moore]

I have the game at home with the game still up, apparently unsaved. But the game is up, so I can save as soon as I get home.

[Anrhydeddu]

You guys are really good at running numbers (which the AI can do as well) but far superior in judging talent, esp. paying the right price for it (which the AI cannot do).

My only suggestion is not to pile on even more house rules but to introduce the unexpected in this group think. There are two ways to approach this.

1) This is an idea that someone talked to me about regarding a clever OOTP league. That is, come up with a realistic list of player personnel problems/issues and introduce them into the game (randomly by some mechanism). What do you think would have happened if at Week 9, the Ox was tested for a banned substance? Or that your QB got into a fight which either caused a serious injury or suspension? In other words, let real-world events invade the game, which you have to do manually.

2) Similarly, introduce unexpected events through the owner and/or media (ala CM). Let's face it, the game is very easy because you set the rules. What if some of the rules were not set by you and therefore, conditions for success/failure were out of your hands? Such real-life examples could involve playtime (like what Al Davis did to Marcus Allen), acquisition of certain players (Spurrier and the UF QBs), owners insisting on gameplans (Jerry Jones), free agency/draft strategies (George Allen and the 70s Redksins), and others. Just read ESPN or TSN and see what real-life events that could impact your team.

These have been brought up before in making this more of a front office game, which introduces a certain degree of randomness and the unexpected into what is obvious just an easy on-field simulator.

[Bee]

I think we touch on your number 2 suggestion by requiring contract offers to any fan favorites. I think it would accomplish similar results, but again that is something that doesn't show up for a season or two.

I think the rule about offering requested contracts to the fan favorites (and idolized players) will add a lot to the challenge in future seasons. Right now I think we have around 10 guys who qualify for this. We also have a few more that are close. The salary cap could really get tight and we may have to cut productive veterans in order to keep the fan favorites on the roster.

It will be interesting to me to see how this plays out after a few seasons.

[QuikSand]

Problem is, Bee, that since the game's implementation of these things is so ham-fisted, there's a very simple way to get around these rules. Just don't sign those players.

Since the whole team chemistry/cohesion/personality thing seems to be so trivial anyway (case in point: our team), it really wouldn't hurt you much to simply overlook players who come in with such ratings. Just ignore them, don't sign them, and avoid (in advance) any problems with re-signings.

Our unwillingness to do so (thus far) is either testament to laziness, ignorance, or (most likely) failure to see what might be coming by this rule. In time, it will be very easy to avoid problems, I suspect.

[Bee]

Originally posted by QuikSand
Problem is, Bee, that since the game's implementation of these things is so ham-fisted, there's a very simple way to get around these rules. Just don't sign those players.

Since the whole team chemistry/cohesion/personality thing seems to be so trivial anyway (case in point: our team), it really wouldn't hurt you much to simply overlook players who come in with such ratings. Just ignore them, don't sign them, and avoid (in advance) any problems with re-signings.

Our unwillingness to do so (thus far) is either testament to laziness, ignorance, or (most likely) failure to see what might be coming by this rule. In time, it will be very easy to avoid problems, I suspect.

While I agree it can be avoided, it adds another level of decision making to the game IMO. Since many of the best players are "fan favorites", it forces you to decide whether or not you sign him and have to deal with potential re-signing problems or go for a lesser quality player. Alone, it's not a solution to the lack of difficulty, but I think it is a decent house rule because it forces a decision when bringing players onto the team (as well as dealing with the consequences when they have joined the team). I prefer rules like this to ones that are in my eyes more artificial (for example, a rule that would not allow you to sign fan favorites).

Of course, the problem is the game itself. No matter what kind of house rules we implement, that is still the issue that with experience the game becomes too easy and there is nothing we can do about it. From the last chat it doesn't seem that Jim feels there is a problem so I don't expect anything to be addressed on that end, which is a shame.

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by Bee
From the last chat it doesn't seem that Jim feels there is a problem so I don't expect anything to be addressed on that end, which is a shame.

Agreed.

[Anrhydeddu]

Sheesh, if I had said that, primelord would have been all over me (again).

I think you guys, if I may be permitted to say, need to think outside of the box. We know what the game gives you and how we are required to interact with the game, but I believe there is no challenging game there unless you use your imaginations. I don't know what would be feasible for a group think but decide whether the group synergy is most important or the challenge of trying to win. If it's a challenge, then go beyond the limitations of an on-field simulator and run it as well as have the experiences of a real-life team. This may require a third-party acting as an "owner" or god-like in coming up with unexpected events. Just my .01.

[wade moore]

Just to chime in on this..

If we feel that it is too easy, perhaps we should add some element of challange as A has suggested? I know the last group think was nice because we went in blind based on TCY draft files, but we cannot here for two reasons.. #1 TCY Files are so out of whack for draft classes #2 that is what killed the last one, because there was so much work involved..

I wish there could be some sort of way we could have more of a "blind" situation...

here is an interesting idea.. maybe not for this project, but perhaps a future project.. we could merely have an "honor code" system where you do not look at green bars.. in drafting you only go by the number "grades" and otherwise you merely go by statistics -- although you can have your scout recommend? This is very unscientific, but maybe would be worth a shot -- again, not in this career probably.

We could possibly have someone (an outsider or QS or something) that has a table of variables and they randomly make a player not sign with us for a reason? To me this is the biggest problem -- the fact that there is no personality thrown into FA signings. It's all about the benjamins so to speak..

[wade moore]

FYI - I'll be in a little later than normal tonight, going out to dinner straight from work.. but if Prime is ok with it, I will just sim the game(s)... It will be around 8 or so..

Do you all want me to sim until we lose, or do a game at a time, or what?

[Booj]

I'd say one game at a time.

[QuikSand]

I, for one, am not really interested in turning this into some sort of role-playing exercise, where somebody does a bunch of dice-rolling or conjuring, and comes up with a series of loopy scenarios for the rest of us to play out. Doesn't interest me.

I wanted to get this started, because I found that despite its limitations, playing the FOF 2001 game together with a group of friends here turned out to be pretty fun. I have hopes that the same will be the case here, with FOF4.

I do not, however, feel any sense of personal ownership in this exercise. If playing onward with some more "invented" obstacles or whatever is brewing here is what we (collectively) want to do, that's certainly fine. I'll find my best role, and play along as appropriate (or not, as appropriate).

[QuikSand]

Originally posted by wade moore
To me this is the biggest problem -- the fact that there is no personality thrown into FA signings. It's all about the benjamins so to speak..

I think I disagree with your conclusion here. But mostly, I have a rant on this game and its "difficulty."


In my judgment, the big long-term problem is a combination of related things, that jumbles up to form a simplyunrealistic long-term player market. I'll try to elaborate.

AI teams do not make good judgments about free agents that can improve their team - they will sit tight with a 35-rated player, when there is a 50-rated player at the same position asking for a comparable salary or less. The "thought process" of theI teams doesn't seem to be a global one... it seems to be too situation-spcific.

The AI team doesn't seem to engage in anyof the sort of incremental, step-by-step thought process that we all do with our teams. Look at how we assembled our offensive line - we debated the big contract for our LT, we re-signed a couple young guys because they were cheap, we picked up a couple value guys in free agency because they were acceptable, and then we grabbed a late round pick at C even though we didn't need a player there. How much of that is completely outside the way the AI teams "think?" Nearly all of it, I suspect.

The AI, I suspect, thinks about its OL in much, much simpler terms... How many players are currently signed? Do we have enough players to field a legal roster? If not, then we must pursue more players at the need positions. If it turns out that we draft players at these positions (a process that doesn't seem to be very need-based at all) then we might go overboard.

Along the way, the AI team will, from time to time, go out and pursue the "best guy at position X" - which looks superficially like a reasoned strategy. But I think that's basically random - it's some weird function of "where are the gaping roster holes right now?" and "how much money do we have under the cap?" It is never anything as complex as "would the extra $2m per year in free agency be better spent at RG, where our current guy gave up 14 sacks last year, or at FS, where we're not getting much from any of our three guys?"

And with that operating in the background, we end up with AI teams making predictably lousy decisions:

-In many cases, they hold on to subpar players too long, paying them too much money in contract extensions when the players are no beter than replacement value

-The AI teams, by parallel argument, do not properly value the top-tier players in the league. This means that a savvy gamer can easily pick and choose stars to acquire, by simply paying a little more than the AI teams will, and do so knowing there will be plenty of decent replacement-level players available, since the AI teams don't pick those guys up appropriately.

-The inevitable result is that a smart team simply "churns" its roster over and over, paying real money only when a player is substantially better than the ever-present "replacement player." At certain positions where real talent is scarce (like QB) you get a top-rated guy and cling to him, period.

Play this game anywhere close to "all-out" and if you aren't winning year after year after year, you're just not trying. This game environment is the apocryphal "land of the blind" - all you need is one eye, and you're the king. If you have two eyes, you're obliged to gouge them out with crippling house rules just to try to get a challenge

[Booj]

QS, I agree 100%

[Anrhydeddu]

I'm curious, QS, do you consider the following "loopy scenarios"?

The board of directors expect the club to mount a serious championship challenge this year.

The Lincoln City directors are generally satisfied with your performance as manager.

The club’s financial status is extremely secure.

Please ignore those supporters who have been calling for your resignation.

You have our total confidence and support.

It is rumored that Lincoln City are shortlisting managers as possible replacements for QuikSand.

Despite the club’s secure financial state, the Lincoln City directors are very unhappy with your performance as manager.

If things don’t improve then we will have to start listening to those supporters who have been calling for your resignation.

The Lincoln City board feel that you have had more than enough time to make this team your own.

The stability of your job will depend on the results that your team obtain.

Lincoln City chairman Tom Harrison has announced that QuikSand’s job as manager is safe.

According to a recent Sun article, Robert Dahlberg has been showing signs of complacency recently, and his attitude is undermining Lincoln’s performances.

Lincoln are trying the patience of their supporters to the limit, according to an opinion poll in a local paper.

The poll suggested that the fans are not prepared to sit back and allow the situation to continue much longer.

The Lincoln City board of directors are disappointed with the level of performance shown against Aston Villa in the FA Cup.

Lincoln City supporters gathered outside the training grounds today to protest against QuikSand’s poor handling of club affairs.

and QS's classic response...

Oh, yeah? F&@% you all!

[quote]The Lincoln City board of directors are disappointed with the level of performance shown against Sunderland in the FA Cup.

Lincoln City supporters gathered outside the training grounds today to protest against QuikSand’s poor handling of club affairs.
[quote]

...and one more response...

Ah, blow it out your arses, you bleedin’ wankers!

[Anrhydeddu]

Note: I'm throwing these out solely for the purpose of perhaps trying to find some missing elements or hook for this group think.

And a couple of more quotes from QS:
from http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~fof/ubb...c&f=1&t=013416

Okay, mediainteraction is clearly present in CM, and absent in FOF. Granted.

Seems to me that what makes this meaningful in CM is the fact that the media-related decisions have a meaningful effect on the game itself. The classic example - the media attack one of your players, and if you fail to defend him adequately, he gets upset and demand a transfer out. If you deny the transfer, his production drops off.

I think that's the big bullseye here [immersion factor].

And I also think that it requires a certain level of "acceptance" on the part of a sports sim developer to recognize that adding some essentially "non-sports" stuff in the game adds something meaningful to the gamer's experience.

I have to say I'm more than a little surprised by the relative unanimity with the responses.
I think there's a bit more to it that just the media/ownership/fan interaction (though I agree that's a significant contributing element).

In CM, the relationship that we have with the visible player ratings is a good deal more tenuous than in any FOF game. In CM, we are aware that:

-there are some "hidden" ratings for the players, and we regularly see players who dramatically underperform or overachieve, relative to the ratings that we can see

-the ratings that we do see are so numerous (and somewhat more general than in FOF) so that it's not completely obvious exactly how good a player appears to be on paper - unlike in FOF, where the assembly of relevant skills is pretty obvious


With these two factors, CM takes us a little farther away from complete depency on the observable ratings. (I'm not trying to reopen the can of worms debate between Marc and Mac, believe me) In CM, the ratings give you a good, but definitely imperfect sense of a player. In FOF, you are (or at least I am) always inclined to side with the ratings, rather than performance, since we have assurances that the visible ratings are all there are in the game (and FOF scout error is simply not a very big factor in most cases - certaily not enough to create wholesale misevaluations of players).

For me, this is an awfully big part of the attraction in CM. I like the idea that I can drop in a new defenseman who has the apparent skills that I want from my players there, and I can expect that he will succeed - but after a certain period of time, I will certainly look to the player's performance on the pitch to help me make my final judgment. In FOF, for most positions, I have no such experience - if I start a new CB who has the ratings I want, I simply and blindly assume that he is good, even if the stats I get from the game don't support that strongly. (The only real exceptions to this are positions with lots of clear and direct accountability, like RB and QB)


Anyway... I'll toss that into the mix. The fact that CM keeps us a little more in the dark about player abilities is a plus in my book, and a pretty fundamentsl one compared to FOF.

[BigDPW]

I think their is a distinction betweent the things that happen inside the gaming world of CM and the things you described earlier that we could add to this group think...

Mainly these are man made things that we impose on ourselves... (basically role-playing house rules) where in CM these are gaming environment things that are imposed on every team in the gaming world... On top of that the things that happen in CM usually have some reasoning behind them based on player, manager, and club board ratings. The things you are talking about doing here would be random and make no sense and leave us with few realistic options on how to deal with them...

[Anrhydeddu]

I know, I'm going off of the comment

Isn't something important missing from the game is we have to practicaly self-flagellate any measure of challenge from it?

If having an absurd amount of eye gouging is the only way the game can give you a challenge (and that is undesirable), then the only solution would be to 1) continue playing that way, 2) make up some creative house rules or 3) not play at all.

[BigDPW]

Even if the CM non-sports stuff was added to FOF I think it would not be the saving grace everyone thinks simply because of the flaws in the FOF AI... The AI needs to respond more like humans think about managing football teams plain and simple... I am not so sure it does that effectively... I think if you stripped the "immersion" elements from CM you would still have a very solid soccer managment sim with solid AI making sound decisions about their personel...

[Anrhydeddu]

So what's the solution? We can't easily put in immersion stuff (I agree), we can't customize the AI teams, we can't get a patch until summer (even if it addresses this issue), so are we are left with "love it" or "leave it".

[BigDPW]

I think the love it or leave it is basically is what we have to go with...

Regardless of FOF's shortcomings in AI it is steal the best thing we have to work with right now as far as Pro Football Simulation... I don't think it is wrong to dream of the say when their is a CM like Pro Football Sim though... Can you imagine if their was a sim that captured the realism of CM's AI and the immersion of their media dealings, training, etc... I hope that someone will take the real and percieved shortcomings of FOF and try to improve on them and one day we will have the Football sim we all dream of... I think it will happen... I am not so sure that it will be in the near future or that Jim will be the one to bring it too us but I gotta beleive it will happen... 4-5 years ago I would have never imagined I could turn on my CPU and be in the middle of a WWII battlefield the way I can with Battlefield 1942 but now I can...

BTW - Luckily I am one of the few people who can play FOF w/o ruling the roost every time I play... Call me a lucky loser I guess...

[wade moore]

To go back to the sim for a few, and I'll try to address this stuff later..

Apparently someone reset my computer while I was gone, so that game was lost.. no huge thing, I'll just resim..

Fort Wayne (7-8) at Little Rock (9-6)

Box Score: Fort Wayne at Little Rock
   Little Rock, TX.
   
   Week 17, 1990
   
   Attendance: 57,700 (69,500).
   
   
   Weather: 68 degrees, fair.
   
   1Q: 11:01 LTR - Terrell Bridges 18 field goal.
   1Q: 00:57 LTR - Terrell Bridges 30 field goal.
   3Q: 05:47 FTW - Byron Lewis 3 pass from Jeremy Waddington.
   3Q: 05:47 FTW - Geoff Comeaux extra point.
   4Q: 03:40 LTR - Ed DeWalt 22 pass from Roger Pritchett.
   4Q: 03:40 LTR - Roger Pritchett pass to Kenny McAlister for conversion
   4Q: 00:08 LTR - Terrell Bridges 43 field goal.
   
   Game MVP: LTR 24 Alan Varner
   
   Fort Wayne	0	0	7	0	-	7
   Little Rock	6	0	0	11	-	17
   
   Team Statistics		FTW		LTR
   
   First Downs		13		15
   
   Total Rushes		18		33
   Rushing Yards		49		104
   Yards Per Carry		2.7		3.1
   Pass Attempts		34		35
   Completions		18		16
   Passing Yards		181		150
   Yards Per Attempt		5.3		4.2
   Sacked		6		1
   Yards Lost		35		8
   Interceptions		2		1
   Fumbles/Lost		0/0		1/0
   
   Total Plays		52		68
   Total Yards		230		254
   Yards Per Play		4.4		3.7
   
   3rd Down Plays		3/13		7/18
   
   Avg. YTG on 3rd		8.4		6.7
   
   4th Down Plays		0/1		0/0
   
   Penalties		4		5
   Penalty Yards		33		27
   
   Avg. Drive Start		OWN 34		OWN 33
   Time Of Possession		27:02		32:58
   
   Fort Wayne Individual Statistics
   
   Rushing		Att	Yards	Avg	Long	TD
   31 Barrett		15	53	3.5	20	0
   28 Roberg		2	0	0.0	1	0
   34 Buhlmann		1	-4	-4.0	-4	0
   
   Passing		Att	Comp	Yards	Yd/Att	Long	TD	Int	Sckd
   7 Waddington		34	18	181	5.3	24	1	2	6
   
   Receiving		Catch	Yards	Avg	YAC	Long	TD
   31 Barrett		5	16	3.2	4	7	0
   89 Lofton		3	57	19.0	10	24	0
   87 Lewis		2	9	4.5	0	6	1
   88 Sellers		2	26	13.0	2	16	0
   83 Foster		2	30	15.0	2	22	0
   34 Buhlmann		2	10	5.0	2	7	0
   80 Pardo		1	17	17.0	0	17	0
   85 Mathews		1	16	16.0	3	16	0
   
   Punt Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   47 Yardley		4	34	8.5	0
   
   Kick Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   84 Freeman		5	97	19.4	0
   
   Punting		Punts	Yards	Avg	Long	In20
   12 Barker		8	332	41.5	51	2
   
   Kicking		FG	FGA	Long	PAT	Att
   16 Comeaux		0	1	0	1	1
   
   Defense		Tackle	Assist	Sack	Int	IntYds	IntTD
   53 Caniff		9	0	0.0	0	0	0
   59 Weagle		5	1	0.0	0	0	0
   76 Ford		4	4	0.0	0	0	0
   27 Buchanan		4	2	0.0	0	0	0
   57 Wilkerson		4	1	0.0	0	0	0
   35 Ingram		4	0	0.0	0	0	0
   47 Yardley		3	3	0.0	1	24	0
   98 Porterfield		3	0	0.0	0	0	0
   72 Battle		2	2	0.0	0	0	0
   97 Perez		2	2	0.0	0	0	0
   91 Stewart		2	0	0.0	0	0	0
   92 Gomez		2	0	0.0	0	0	0
   90 Torres		1	0	1.0	0	0	0
   42 Mayes		1	3	0.0	0	0	0
   87 Lewis		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   31 Barrett		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   89 Lofton		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   58 Hyde		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   38 Bernard		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   
   Miscellaneous		Fumb	FForc	Recov	MiscTD	KeyRBlk	SckAlwd
   64 Caldwell		0	0	0	0	1	5
   65 Dugans		0	0	0	0	0	1
   51 Greer		0	0	0	0	2	0
   79 Sanders		0	0	0	0	1	0
   34 Buhlmann		0	0	0	0	1	0
   58 Hyde		0	1	0	0	0	0
   
   Little Rock Individual Statistics
   
   Rushing		Att	Yards	Avg	Long	TD
   49 Oksenberg		21	81	3.8	12	0
   35 Crawford		10	20	2.0	5	0
   2 Pritchett		2	3	1.5	4	0
   
   Passing		Att	Comp	Yards	Yd/Att	Long	TD	Int	Sckd
   2 Pritchett		35	16	150	4.2	22	1	1	1
   
   Receiving		Catch	Yards	Avg	YAC	Long	TD
   49 Oksenberg		4	18	4.5	8	8	0
   85 McAlister		3	42	14.0	10	17	0
   38 Stone		2	18	9.0	12	16	0
   47 Hutchins		2	20	10.0	2	12	0
   87 Rose		1	9	9.0	0	9	0
   89 DeWalt		1	22	22.0	0	22	1
   35 Crawford		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   11 Lane		1	10	10.0	11	10	0
   19 Hill		1	11	11.0	1	11	0
   
   Punt Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   87 Rose		2	10	5.0	0
   
   Kick Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   
   Punting		Punts	Yards	Avg	Long	In20
   9 Metz		7	292	41.7	54	3
   
   Kicking		FG	FGA	Long	PAT	Att
   7 Bridges		3	4	43	0	0
   
   Defense		Tackle	Assist	Sack	Int	IntYds	IntTD
   24 Varner		7	1	1.0	1	38	0
   33 Wetherbee		6	0	0.0	0	0	0
   48 Bridgeman		5	1	0.0	0	0	0
   71 Davison		4	1	2.0	0	0	0
   95 John		4	1	0.0	0	0	0
   57 Bell		3	3	0.0	0	0	0
   59 Horn		3	2	0.0	0	0	0
   42 Flynn		3	1	0.0	0	0	0
   27 Dennis		3	0	0.0	0	0	0
   77 Blow		2	2	1.5	0	0	0
   79 Wolfe		2	1	1.0	0	0	0
   44 Armstrong		1	2	0.0	1	4	0
   51 Martinez		1	1	0.0	0	0	0
   74 Gaines		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   99 Mahoney		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   75 Meekin		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   49 Oksenberg		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   38 Stone		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   85 McAlister		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   19 Hill		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   62 Strikwerda		0	2	0.5	0	0	0
   
   Miscellaneous		Fumb	FForc	Recov	MiscTD	KeyRBlk	SckAlwd
   63 Wooldridge		0	0	0	0	3	0
   75 Meekin		0	0	0	0	0	1
   69 Johnston		0	0	0	0	2	0
   87 Rose		1	0	0	0	0	0
   74 Gaines		0	0	0	0	1	0
   58 Von Hagel		0	0	1	0	0	0
   50 Cates		0	0	0	0	1	0
   
   Fort Wayne Drive Chart
   	Quar	Began	Poss	From		Plays	Yards	Result
   	1	15:00	0:51	OWN 23		2	0	Interception
   	1	11:01	2:50	OWN 31		3	8	Punt
   	1	6:24	2:21	OWN 45		5	14	Missed FG
   	1	0:57	1:48	OWN 44		3	-1	Punt
   	2	12:02	2:26	OWN 31		5	20	Punt
   	2	6:24	4:11	OWN 22		6	22	Punt
   	3	14:07	2:27	OPP 31		4	-9	Downs
   	3	11:15	5:28	OWN 17		14	83	Touchdown
   	3	5:12	1:06	OWN 31		3	-5	Punt
   	3	1:06	2:22	OWN 17		4	29	Punt
   	4	11:51	1:33	OWN 45		3	5	Punt
   	4	3:40	0:57	OWN 19		3	-5	Punt
   	4	2:10	0:14	OWN 46		2	10	Interception
   	4	0:08	0:08	OWN 39		1	21	Game
   
   Little Rock Drive Chart
   	Quar	Began	Poss	From		Plays	Yards	Result
   	1	14:09	3:08	OPP 27		6	26	Field Goal
   	1	8:11	1:47	OWN 25		3	2	Punt
   	1	4:03	3:06	OWN 48		8	39	Field Goal
   	2	14:09	2:07	OWN 35		3	-1	Punt
   	2	9:36	3:12	OWN 20		8	25	Punt
   	2	2:13	2:13	OWN 5		8	31	Half
   	3	15:00	0:53	OWN 20		2	11	Interception
   	3	11:40	0:25	OWN 40		3	0	Punt
   	3	5:47	0:35	OWN 20		3	0	Punt
   	3	4:06	3:00	OWN 37		5	16	Punt
   	4	13:44	1:53	OWN 11		3	4	Punt
   	4	10:18	6:38	OWN 20		12	80	Touchdown
   	4	2:43	0:33	OPP 48		3	9	Missed FG
   	4	1:56	1:48	OPP 33		3	7	Field Goal
   
   Fort Wayne Red Zone Profile
   		Visits	TDs	FGs
   		1	1	0
   
   Little Rock Red Zone Profile
   		Visits	TDs	FGs
   		2	0	2
   
   Fort Wayne Rushing Breakdown
   
   Direction		Rush	Yards	Ave
   Left		4	-2	-0.5
   Middle		11	53	4.8
   Right		3	-2	-0.6
   None		0	0	0.0
   
   Run Blocking		KeyBlks	BlkOpps	RunPlays
   51 Greer		2	4	17
   79 Sanders		1	5	18
   34 Buhlmann		1	2	16
   64 Caldwell		1	1	18
   62 Soule		0	5	18
   87 Lewis		0	1	16
   65 Dugans		0	0	18
   58 Hyde		0	0	1
   
   Fort Wayne Passing Breakdown
   
   Distance		Pass	Comp	Yards	Ave
   Screen		1	1	2	2.0
   Short (0-8 Yds)		11	7	27	2.4
   Medium (9-18 Yds)		13	7	85	6.5
   Long (19+ Yds)		9	3	67	7.4
   
   Passing		Attempt	Comp	BdThrw	Dropd	Defnsd	Blockd	Hurried	Intrcpt
   7 Waddington		34	18	2	2	4	0	5	2
   
   Receiving		Target	Caught	Dropd	Yards	PassPlay
   89 Lofton		11	3	0	57	31
   31 Barrett		6	5	0	16	30
   87 Lewis		5	2	1	9	26
   88 Sellers		4	2	0	26	25
   34 Buhlmann		3	2	0	10	13
   80 Pardo		2	1	1	17	22
   83 Foster		2	2	0	30	3
   85 Mathews		1	1	0	16	15
   
   Pass Block		SckAlwd		PassPlay
   62 Soule		0		34
   79 Sanders		0		34
   65 Dugans		1		34
   64 Caldwell		5		34
   51 Greer		0		32
   34 Buhlmann		0		13
   58 Hyde		0		2
   
   Pass Rush		Sacks	PsBlks	Hurries	PassPlay
   90 Torres		1.0	0	0	20
   98 Porterfield		0.0	1	2	35
   76 Ford		0.0	1	0	32
   27 Buchanan		0.0	0	0	35
   47 Yardley		0.0	0	0	35
   53 Caniff		0.0	0	0	32
   72 Battle		0.0	0	0	32
   42 Mayes		0.0	0	0	31
   40 Sikkenga		0.0	0	0	30
   59 Weagle		0.0	0	0	23
   57 Wilkerson		0.0	0	0	18
   35 Ingram		0.0	0	0	17
   97 Perez		0.0	0	0	16
   92 Gomez		0.0	0	0	14
   38 Bernard		0.0	0	0	8
   70 Gordon		0.0	0	0	5
   91 Stewart		0.0	0	0	1
   21 Schwartz		0.0	0	0	1
   
   Pass Defense		Caught	Defnsd	Intrcpt	PassPlay
   53 Caniff		5	1	0	32
   47 Yardley		4	1	1	35
   35 Ingram		3	0	0	17
   59 Weagle		2	1	0	23
   92 Gomez		1	0	0	14
   91 Stewart		1	0	0	1
   27 Buchanan		0	3	0	35
   98 Porterfield		0	1	0	35
   57 Wilkerson		0	1	0	18
   76 Ford		0	0	0	32
   72 Battle		0	0	0	32
   42 Mayes		0	0	0	31
   40 Sikkenga		0	0	0	30
   90 Torres		0	0	0	20
   97 Perez		0	0	0	16
   38 Bernard		0	0	0	8
   70 Gordon		0	0	0	5
   21 Schwartz		0	0	0	1
   
   Defense		Tackles	Assists	RunPlay	PassPlay
   53 Caniff		9	0	28	32
   59 Weagle		5	1	22	23
   76 Ford		4	4	29	32
   27 Buchanan		4	2	32	35
   57 Wilkerson		4	1	19	18
   35 Ingram		4	0	13	17
   47 Yardley		3	3	32	35
   98 Porterfield		3	0	32	35
   72 Battle		2	2	30	32
   97 Perez		2	2	23	16
   92 Gomez		2	0	12	14
   91 Stewart		2	0	1	1
   42 Mayes		1	3	31	31
   90 Torres		1	0	11	20
   38 Bernard		1	0	5	8
   40 Sikkenga		0	0	29	30
   70 Gordon		0	0	3	5
   21 Schwartz		0	0	0	1
   
   Little Rock Rushing Breakdown
   
   Direction		Rush	Yards	Ave
   Left		14	47	3.3
   Middle		12	41	3.4
   Right		6	17	2.8
   None		1	-1	-1.0
   
   Run Blocking		KeyBlks	BlkOpps	RunPlays
   63 Wooldridge		3	5	32
   69 Johnston		2	4	32
   50 Cates		1	9	29
   74 Gaines		1	7	32
   75 Meekin		0	4	32
   38 Stone		0	1	23
   47 Hutchins		0	0	21
   84 Graham		0	1	10
   65 Terry		0	0	3
   
   Little Rock Passing Breakdown
   
   Distance		Pass	Comp	Yards	Ave
   Screen		6	3	16	2.6
   Short (0-8 Yds)		12	7	49	4.0
   Medium (9-18 Yds)		13	5	63	4.8
   Long (19+ Yds)		4	1	22	5.5
   
   Passing		Attempt	Comp	BdThrw	Dropd	Defnsd	Blockd	Hurried	Intrcpt
   2 Pritchett		35	16	2	3	8	2	2	1
   
   Receiving		Target	Caught	Dropd	Yards	PassPlay
   85 McAlister		10	3	0	42	33
   49 Oksenberg		8	4	0	18	28
   38 Stone		6	2	3	18	21
   19 Hill		3	1	0	11	32
   35 Crawford		2	1	0	0	7
   47 Hutchins		2	2	0	20	23
   11 Lane		2	1	0	10	2
   87 Rose		1	1	0	9	18
   89 DeWalt		1	1	0	22	6
   
   Pass Block		SckAlwd		PassPlay
   69 Johnston		0		35
   74 Gaines		0		35
   75 Meekin		1		35
   63 Wooldridge		0		35
   50 Cates		0		32
   38 Stone		0		21
   65 Terry		0		3
   
   Pass Rush		Sacks	PsBlks	Hurries	PassPlay
   71 Davison		2.0	0	0	34
   77 Blow		1.5	0	2	34
   79 Wolfe		1.0	0	2	32
   24 Varner		1.0	0	0	19
   62 Strikwerda		0.5	0	1	24
   48 Bridgeman		0.0	0	0	34
   44 Armstrong		0.0	0	0	34
   33 Wetherbee		0.0	0	0	33
   57 Bell		0.0	0	0	28
   95 John		0.0	0	0	28
   27 Dennis		0.0	0	0	28
   59 Horn		0.0	0	0	14
   99 Mahoney		0.0	0	0	12
   42 Flynn		0.0	0	0	8
   51 Martinez		0.0	0	0	7
   58 Von Hagel		0.0	0	0	3
   39 Carlson		0.0	0	0	2
   
   Pass Defense		Caught	Defnsd	Intrcpt	PassPlay
   48 Bridgeman		4	1	0	34
   95 John		3	2	0	28
   24 Varner		3	0	1	19
   59 Horn		2	1	0	14
   27 Dennis		2	0	0	28
   44 Armstrong		1	0	1	34
   33 Wetherbee		1	0	0	33
   42 Flynn		1	0	0	8
   51 Martinez		1	0	0	7
   71 Davison		0	0	0	34
   77 Blow		0	0	0	34
   79 Wolfe		0	0	0	32
   57 Bell		0	0	0	28
   62 Strikwerda		0	0	0	24
   99 Mahoney		0	0	0	12
   58 Von Hagel		0	0	0	3
   39 Carlson		0	0	0	2
   
   Defense		Tackles	Assists	RunPlay	PassPlay
   24 Varner		7	1	7	19
   33 Wetherbee		6	0	17	33
   48 Bridgeman		5	1	18	34
   71 Davison		4	1	18	34
   95 John		4	1	13	28
   57 Bell		3	3	17	28
   59 Horn		3	2	15	14
   42 Flynn		3	1	1	8
   27 Dennis		3	0	12	28
   77 Blow		2	2	18	34
   79 Wolfe		2	1	16	32
   44 Armstrong		1	2	18	34
   51 Martinez		1	1	7	7
   99 Mahoney		1	0	11	12
   62 Strikwerda		0	2	9	24
   58 Von Hagel		0	0	0	3
   39 Carlson		0	0	1	2

[wade moore]

Game Saved. .. running playoff game now..

[wade moore]

Little Rock (10-6) at Nashua (9-7) (-2)

Box Score: Little Rock at Nashua
   Nashua, MA.
   
   Wild Card Playoff Games, 1990
   
   Attendance: 67,500 (68,000).
   
   
   Weather: 46 degrees, rain.
   
   1Q: 09:53 LTR - Brent Oksenberg 2 run.
   1Q: 09:53 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
   1Q: 04:46 NSH - Rich Panariello 50 field goal.
   2Q: 12:05 NSH - Rich Panariello 27 field goal.
   2Q: 10:55 LTR - Kenny McAlister 84 pass from Roger Pritchett.
   2Q: 10:55 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
   2Q: 05:04 NSH - Isaac Eggers 2 run.
   2Q: 05:04 NSH - Rich Panariello extra point.
   2Q: 01:34 LTR - Donnie Bridgeman 37 interception return.
   2Q: 01:34 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
   2Q: 00:00 LTR - Terrell Bridges 36 field goal.
   3Q: 10:49 LTR - Wayne Hill 16 pass from Roger Pritchett.
   3Q: 10:49 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
   3Q: 04:03 LTR - Kenny McAlister 7 pass from Roger Pritchett.
   3Q: 04:03 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
   3Q: 01:00 LTR - Brent Oksenberg 5 pass from Roger Pritchett.
   3Q: 01:00 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
   4Q: 02:51 NSH - Gilbert Starks 35 pass from Edward Bradford.
   4Q: 02:51 NSH - Marshall Mahoney run for conversion failed.
   
   Game MVP: LTR 2 Roger Pritchett
   
   Little Rock	7	17	21	0	-	45
   Nashua	3	10	0	6	-	19
   
   Team Statistics		LTR		NSH
   
   First Downs		18		18
   
   Total Rushes		38		33
   Rushing Yards		170		143
   Yards Per Carry		4.4		4.3
   Pass Attempts		18		30
   Completions		12		12
   Passing Yards		207		151
   Yards Per Attempt		11.5		5.0
   Sacked		2		1
   Yards Lost		13		6
   Interceptions		1		3
   Fumbles/Lost		0/0		1/1
   
   Total Plays		56		63
   Total Yards		377		294
   Yards Per Play		6.7		4.6
   
   3rd Down Plays		2/9		3/13
   
   Avg. YTG on 3rd		9.0		6.5
   
   4th Down Plays		0/1		0/1
   
   Penalties		9		2
   Penalty Yards		51		7
   
   Avg. Drive Start		OWN 35		OWN 27
   Time Of Possession		31:04		28:56
   
   Little Rock Individual Statistics
   
   Rushing		Att	Yards	Avg	Long	TD
   49 Oksenberg		24	142	5.9	24	1
   35 Crawford		6	11	1.8	5	0
   2 Pritchett		3	12	4.0	5	0
   36 Baker		3	0	0.0	1	0
   87 Rose		1	1	1.0	1	0
   19 Hill		1	4	4.0	4	0
   
   Passing		Att	Comp	Yards	Yd/Att	Long	TD	Int	Sckd
   2 Pritchett		18	12	207	11.5	84	4	1	2
   
   Receiving		Catch	Yards	Avg	YAC	Long	TD
   49 Oksenberg		3	13	4.3	7	5	1
   85 McAlister		3	131	43.6	62	84	2
   87 Rose		2	21	10.5	4	16	0
   45 Clancy		1	8	8.0	3	8	0
   84 Graham		1	3	3.0	0	3	0
   47 Hutchins		1	15	15.0	3	15	0
   19 Hill		1	16	16.0	0	16	1
   
   Punt Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   87 Rose		2	10	5.0	0
   
   Kick Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   18 Wallis		2	34	17.0	0
   36 Baker		1	21	21.0	0
   
   Punting		Punts	Yards	Avg	Long	In20
   9 Metz		6	242	40.3	46	3
   
   Kicking		FG	FGA	Long	PAT	Att
   7 Bridges		1	1	36	6	6
   
   Defense		Tackle	Assist	Sack	Int	IntYds	IntTD
   48 Bridgeman		5	3	0.0	1	37	1
   57 Bell		5	1	0.0	0	0	0
   95 John		4	1	0.0	1	0	0
   33 Wetherbee		3	2	0.0	0	0	0
   79 Wolfe		3	2	0.0	0	0	0
   59 Horn		3	1	0.0	0	0	0
   27 Dennis		3	1	0.0	0	0	0
   71 Davison		3	1	0.0	0	0	0
   58 Von Hagel		3	0	0.0	0	0	0
   39 Carlson		2	1	0.0	0	0	0
   44 Armstrong		2	1	0.0	0	0	0
   99 Mahoney		2	0	0.0	0	0	0
   42 Flynn		2	0	0.0	0	0	0
   45 Clancy		2	0	0.0	0	0	0
   61 Shores		1	0	1.0	0	0	0
   32 LaRiche		1	2	0.0	0	0	0
   62 Strikwerda		1	1	0.0	0	0	0
   69 Johnston		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   18 Wallis		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   36 Baker		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   85 McAlister		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   65 Terry		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   77 Blow		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   24 Varner		0	0	0.0	1	13	0
   
   Miscellaneous		Fumb	FForc	Recov	MiscTD	KeyRBlk	SckAlwd
   75 Meekin		0	0	0	0	1	1
   50 Cates		0	0	0	0	4	0
   69 Johnston		0	0	0	0	1	1
   63 Wooldridge		0	0	0	0	2	0
   74 Gaines		0	0	0	0	1	0
   27 Dennis		0	1	0	0	0	0
   44 Armstrong		0	0	1	0	0	0
   84 Graham		0	0	0	0	1	0
   47 Hutchins		0	0	0	0	1	0
   
   Nashua Individual Statistics
   
   Rushing		Att	Yards	Avg	Long	TD
   24 Gilmore		16	44	2.7	9	0
   43 Flack		10	63	6.3	31	0
   16 Eggers		3	16	5.3	8	1
   25 Mahoney		3	16	5.3	15	0
   5 Bradford		1	4	4.0	4	0
   
   Passing		Att	Comp	Yards	Yd/Att	Long	TD	Int	Sckd
   16 Eggers		25	9	88	3.5	23	0	2	0
   5 Bradford		5	3	63	12.6	35	1	1	1
   
   Receiving		Catch	Yards	Avg	YAC	Long	TD
   24 Gilmore		5	41	8.2	16	17	0
   18 Pokrajac		2	32	16.0	2	23	0
   83 Starks		2	57	28.5	2	35	1
   87 Manley		1	11	11.0	0	11	0
   43 Flack		1	3	3.0	3	3	0
   33 Lake		1	7	7.0	0	7	0
   
   Punt Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   44 Tripplett		1	2	2.0	0
   43 Flack		1	-1	-1.0	0
   
   Kick Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   88 Haynesworth		3	61	20.3	0
   18 Pokrajac		2	45	22.5	0
   
   Punting		Punts	Yards	Avg	Long	In20
   7 Curbo		5	199	39.8	50	2
   
   Kicking		FG	FGA	Long	PAT	Att
   6 Panariello		2	2	50	1	1
   
   Defense		Tackle	Assist	Sack	Int	IntYds	IntTD
   79 Brand		8	1	0.5	0	0	0
   44 Tripplett		6	2	0.0	1	25	0
   59 Poston		6	2	0.0	0	0	0
   23 Kelly		4	2	0.0	0	0	0
   47 Stanton		4	0	0.0	0	0	0
   55 Whitfield		3	2	0.5	0	0	0
   90 Thomas		3	1	0.5	0	0	0
   93 Brewer		3	0	0.0	0	0	0
   20 Magnotta		3	0	0.0	0	0	0
   91 Heusel		2	2	0.0	0	0	0
   31 Bryant		2	1	0.0	0	0	0
   49 McKeown		2	0	0.0	0	0	0
   88 Haynesworth		2	0	0.0	0	0	0
   75 Schultz		1	3	0.5	0	0	0
   71 Pantoja		1	1	0.0	0	0	0
   18 Pokrajac		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   80 Bell		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   61 Robinson		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   77 Warren		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   56 Dugan		0	1	0.0	0	0	0
   50 Lucas		0	1	0.0	0	0	0
   
   Miscellaneous		Fumb	FForc	Recov	MiscTD	KeyRBlk	SckAlwd
   69 Caldwell		0	0	0	0	0	1
   60 Whitfield		0	0	0	0	2	0
   80 Bell		0	0	0	0	1	0
   61 Robinson		0	0	0	0	1	0
   24 Gilmore		1	0	0	0	0	0
   57 Thompson		0	0	0	0	1	0
   51 Joy		0	0	0	0	1	0
   72 Perry		0	0	0	0	1	0
   73 Grace		0	0	0	0	1	0
   
   Little Rock Drive Chart
   	Quar	Began	Poss	From		Plays	Yards	Result
   	1	15:00	5:07	OWN 34		8	66	Touchdown
   	1	8:11	1:47	OWN 34		4	7	Downs
   	1	4:46	3:42	OWN 2		7	40	Punt
   	2	13:55	0:50	OWN 17		2	5	Interception
   	2	12:05	1:10	OWN 14		2	86	Touchdown
   	2	5:04	3:01	OWN 20		5	15	Punt
   	2	0:22	0:22	OPP 35		2	16	Field Goal
   	3	13:02	2:13	OWN 46		5	54	Touchdown
   	3	7:17	1:17	OWN 37		3	-2	Punt
   	3	5:52	1:49	OPP 31		4	31	Touchdown
   	3	2:24	1:24	OPP 17		4	17	Touchdown
   	4	13:22	3:52	OWN 30		6	14	Punt
   	4	7:00	2:02	OWN 18		3	2	Punt
   	4	2:51	1:05	OWN 34		3	-2	Punt
   
   Nashua Drive Chart
   	Quar	Began	Poss	From		Plays	Yards	Result
   	1	9:53	1:42	OWN 23		3	3	Punt
   	1	6:24	1:38	OPP 41		4	8	Field Goal
   	1	1:04	2:09	OWN 13		5	20	Punt
   	2	13:05	1:00	OPP 15		3	5	Field Goal
   	2	10:55	5:51	OWN 31		11	69	Touchdown
   	2	2:03	0:29	OWN 27		3	0	Interception
   	2	1:34	1:12	OWN 3		3	2	Punt
   	3	15:00	1:58	OWN 12		3	7	Punt
   	3	10:49	3:32	OWN 15		6	48	Downs
   	3	6:00	0:08	OWN 21		1	10	Fumble
   	3	4:03	1:39	OWN 4		3	5	Interception
   	3	1:00	2:38	OWN 28		5	34	Interception
   	4	9:30	2:30	OWN 17		7	31	Punt
   	4	4:58	2:07	OWN 42		4	58	Touchdown
   	4	1:46	1:46	OWN 31		4	13	Game
   
   Little Rock Red Zone Profile
   		Visits	TDs	FGs
   		5	4	1
   
   Nashua Red Zone Profile
   		Visits	TDs	FGs
   		2	1	1
   
   Little Rock Rushing Breakdown
   
   Direction		Rush	Yards	Ave
   Left		7	10	1.4
   Middle		29	139	4.7
   Right		2	21	10.5
   None		0	0	0.0
   
   Run Blocking		KeyBlks	BlkOpps	RunPlays
   50 Cates		4	6	28
   63 Wooldridge		2	5	28
   69 Johnston		1	4	31
   74 Gaines		1	4	31
   75 Meekin		1	3	33
   47 Hutchins		1	3	20
   84 Graham		1	2	13
   70 Pedersen		0	3	8
   65 Terry		0	3	7
   38 Stone		0	1	24
   67 McAfee		0	1	6
   11 Lane		0	0	7
   45 Clancy		0	0	5
   66 Goad		0	0	3
   
   Little Rock Passing Breakdown
   
   Distance		Pass	Comp	Yards	Ave
   Screen		0	0	0	0.0
   Short (0-8 Yds)		8	6	29	3.6
   Medium (9-18 Yds)		7	4	54	7.7
   Long (19+ Yds)		3	2	124	41.3
   
   Passing		Attempt	Comp	BdThrw	Dropd	Defnsd	Blockd	Hurried	Intrcpt
   2 Pritchett		18	12	0	1	1	0	3	1
   
   Receiving		Target	Caught	Dropd	Yards	PassPlay
   49 Oksenberg		5	3	0	13	14
   85 McAlister		5	3	0	131	17
   87 Rose		2	2	0	21	9
   47 Hutchins		2	1	0	15	11
   19 Hill		2	1	1	16	15
   45 Clancy		1	1	0	8	1
   84 Graham		1	1	0	3	3
   
   Pass Block		SckAlwd		PassPlay
   69 Johnston		1		18
   75 Meekin		1		18
   74 Gaines		0		17
   63 Wooldridge		0		17
   50 Cates		0		16
   38 Stone		0		14
   65 Terry		0		2
   70 Pedersen		0		1
   45 Clancy		0		1
   67 McAfee		0		1
   
   Pass Rush		Sacks	PsBlks	Hurries	PassPlay
   61 Shores		1.0	0	0	4
   71 Davison		0.0	0	2	27
   95 John		0.0	0	2	26
   79 Wolfe		0.0	0	2	26
   77 Blow		0.0	0	1	29
   99 Mahoney		0.0	0	1	20
   44 Armstrong		0.0	0	0	28
   48 Bridgeman		0.0	0	0	27
   57 Bell		0.0	0	0	27
   27 Dennis		0.0	0	0	27
   33 Wetherbee		0.0	0	0	25
   59 Horn		0.0	0	0	17
   62 Strikwerda		0.0	0	0	14
   24 Varner		0.0	0	0	14
   39 Carlson		0.0	0	0	5
   51 Martinez		0.0	0	0	5
   42 Flynn		0.0	0	0	4
   32 LaRiche		0.0	0	0	3
   58 Von Hagel		0.0	0	0	2
   
   Pass Defense		Caught	Defnsd	Intrcpt	PassPlay
   44 Armstrong		2	1	0	28
   95 John		2	0	1	26
   57 Bell		1	1	0	27
   27 Dennis		1	1	0	27
   48 Bridgeman		1	0	1	27
   77 Blow		1	0	0	29
   59 Horn		1	0	0	17
   51 Martinez		1	0	0	5
   42 Flynn		1	0	0	4
   58 Von Hagel		1	0	0	2
   71 Davison		0	0	0	27
   79 Wolfe		0	0	0	26
   33 Wetherbee		0	0	0	25
   24 Varner		0	0	1	14
   99 Mahoney		0	0	0	20
   62 Strikwerda		0	0	0	14
   39 Carlson		0	0	0	5
   61 Shores		0	0	0	4
   32 LaRiche		0	0	0	3
   
   Defense		Tackles	Assists	RunPlay	PassPlay
   48 Bridgeman		5	3	23	27
   57 Bell		5	1	19	27
   95 John		4	1	23	26
   33 Wetherbee		3	2	23	25
   79 Wolfe		3	2	20	26
   71 Davison		3	1	23	27
   27 Dennis		3	1	18	27
   59 Horn		3	1	19	17
   58 Von Hagel		3	0	6	2
   44 Armstrong		2	1	23	28
   39 Carlson		2	1	10	5
   99 Mahoney		2	0	20	20
   42 Flynn		2	0	13	4
   32 LaRiche		1	2	5	3
   62 Strikwerda		1	1	18	14
   77 Blow		1	0	26	29
   61 Shores		1	0	9	4
   24 Varner		0	0	15	14
   51 Martinez		0	0	6	5
   
   Nashua Rushing Breakdown
   
   Direction		Rush	Yards	Ave
   Left		6	36	6.0
   Middle		21	89	4.2
   Right		6	18	3.0
   None		0	0	0.0
   
   Run Blocking		KeyBlks	BlkOpps	RunPlays
   60 Whitfield		2	6	25
   51 Joy		1	7	21
   61 Robinson		1	5	26
   80 Bell		1	1	17
   72 Perry		1	1	8
   73 Grace		1	1	8
   57 Thompson		1	1	6
   33 Lake		0	3	15
   68 Farler		0	2	21
   63 Harper		0	1	22
   69 Caldwell		0	1	8
   86 Erickson		0	0	14
   
   Nashua Passing Breakdown
   
   Distance		Pass	Comp	Yards	Ave
   Screen		3	2	8	2.6
   Short (0-8 Yds)		10	5	35	3.5
   Medium (9-18 Yds)		11	2	28	2.5
   Long (19+ Yds)		6	3	80	13.3
   
   Passing		Attempt	Comp	BdThrw	Dropd	Defnsd	Blockd	Hurried	Intrcpt
   16 Eggers		25	9	0	2	3	0	8	2
   5 Bradford		5	3	1	0	0	0	0	1
   
   Receiving		Target	Caught	Dropd	Yards	PassPlay
   18 Pokrajac		6	2	1	32	28
   24 Gilmore		6	5	1	41	14
   87 Manley		5	1	0	11	23
   33 Lake		4	1	0	7	15
   88 Haynesworth		4	0	0	0	16
   83 Starks		3	2	0	57	10
   43 Flack		2	1	0	3	12
   
   Pass Block		SckAlwd		PassPlay
   61 Robinson		0		29
   60 Whitfield		0		29
   63 Harper		0		27
   68 Farler		0		27
   51 Joy		0		27
   33 Lake		0		15
   69 Caldwell		1		3
   72 Perry		0		3
   73 Grace		0		3
   57 Thompson		0		2
   
   Pass Rush		Sacks	PsBlks	Hurries	PassPlay
   75 Schultz		0.5	0	1	15
   79 Brand		0.5	0	0	18
   55 Whitfield		0.5	0	0	9
   90 Thomas		0.5	0	0	2
   93 Brewer		0.0	0	2	17
   49 McKeown		0.0	0	0	18
   59 Poston		0.0	0	0	17
   31 Bryant		0.0	0	0	17
   44 Tripplett		0.0	0	0	16
   20 Magnotta		0.0	0	0	16
   71 Pantoja		0.0	0	0	16
   91 Heusel		0.0	0	0	12
   47 Stanton		0.0	0	0	10
   23 Kelly		0.0	0	0	7
   74 Tindale		0.0	0	0	4
   77 Warren		0.0	0	0	2
   56 Dugan		0.0	0	0	1
   21 Burton		0.0	0	0	1
   
   Pass Defense		Caught	Defnsd	Intrcpt	PassPlay
   59 Poston		2	1	0	17
   44 Tripplett		2	0	1	16
   31 Bryant		2	0	0	17
   47 Stanton		2	0	0	10
   49 McKeown		1	0	0	18
   20 Magnotta		1	0	0	16
   91 Heusel		1	0	0	12
   23 Kelly		1	0	0	7
   79 Brand		0	0	0	18
   93 Brewer		0	0	0	17
   71 Pantoja		0	0	0	16
   75 Schultz		0	0	0	15
   55 Whitfield		0	0	0	9
   74 Tindale		0	0	0	4
   90 Thomas		0	0	0	2
   77 Warren		0	0	0	2
   56 Dugan		0	0	0	1
   21 Burton		0	0	0	1
   
   Defense		Tackles	Assists	RunPlay	PassPlay
   79 Brand		8	1	35	18
   59 Poston		6	2	30	17
   44 Tripplett		6	2	31	16
   23 Kelly		4	2	14	7
   47 Stanton		4	0	17	10
   55 Whitfield		3	2	19	9
   90 Thomas		3	1	6	2
   93 Brewer		3	0	32	17
   20 Magnotta		3	0	29	16
   91 Heusel		2	2	22	12
   31 Bryant		2	1	30	17
   49 McKeown		2	0	31	18
   75 Schultz		1	3	23	15
   71 Pantoja		1	1	30	16
   77 Warren		1	0	7	2
   56 Dugan		0	1	7	1
   50 Lucas		0	1	2	0
   74 Tindale		0	0	13	4
   21 Burton		0	0	7	1

Injuries:
RB Brent Oksenberg, Probable, Turf Toe, Unknown
WLB Alan Martinez, Probable, Sprained Thumb, 4 Weeks
QB Reuben Coleman, Probable, Bruised Sternum, 1 Week
LDT R.J. Strikwerda

[wade moore]

We play our division rival, Fort Knox (12-4)who we are 1-1 against this year, but we handled them pretty well last time..

I'm not sure that I see the point in holding off simming this game, as there seems to be no reason to change strategy? Booj showed an interested in doing one game at a time, but no one else has spoken up.. the general consensus has been to move along quickly, so I'm going to go ahead and sim..

[wade moore]

Little Rock (11-6) at Fort Knox (12-4) (-8)

 Box Score: Little Rock at Fort Knox
   Fort Knox, TN.
   
   Conference Semifinals, 1990
   
   Attendance: 67,700 (67,700).
   
   
   Weather: 48 degrees, fair.
   
   1Q: 02:01 FKX - Curtis Slattery 2 pass from Wally Greene.
   1Q: 02:01 FKX - J.T. Biernoth extra point.
   2Q: 10:49 LTR - Duane Crawford 2 run.
   2Q: 10:49 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
   2Q: 10:06 LTR - Lonnie Bell 35 interception return.
   2Q: 10:06 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
   2Q: 07:17 FKX - Curtis Slattery 11 run.
   2Q: 07:17 FKX - J.T. Biernoth extra point.
   2Q: 03:52 LTR - Brent Oksenberg 10 run.
   2Q: 03:52 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
   3Q: 00:39 LTR - Terrell Bridges 44 field goal.
   4Q: 10:23 FKX - Curtis Slattery 5 pass from Wally Greene.
   4Q: 10:23 FKX - J.T. Biernoth extra point.
   4Q: 02:55 LTR - Brent Oksenberg 1 run.
   4Q: 02:55 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
   
   Game MVP: LTR 49 Brent Oksenberg
   
   Little Rock	0	21	3	7	-	31
   Fort Knox	7	7	0	7	-	21
   
   Team Statistics		LTR		FKX
   
   First Downs		22		20
   
   Total Rushes		38		23
   Rushing Yards		190		74
   Yards Per Carry		5.0		3.2
   Pass Attempts		27		38
   Completions		18		20
   Passing Yards		179		231
   Yards Per Attempt		6.6		6.0
   Sacked		2		2
   Yards Lost		13		13
   Interceptions		0		1
   Fumbles/Lost		0/0		0/0
   
   Total Plays		65		61
   Total Yards		369		305
   Yards Per Play		5.6		5.0
   
   3rd Down Plays		9/15		7/13
   
   Avg. YTG on 3rd		6.7		8.9
   
   4th Down Plays		0/0		0/1
   
   Penalties		3		2
   Penalty Yards		20		15
   
   Avg. Drive Start		OWN 37		OWN 28
   Time Of Possession		32:48		27:12
   
   Little Rock Individual Statistics
   
   Rushing		Att	Yards	Avg	Long	TD
   49 Oksenberg		32	186	5.8	20	2
   2 Pritchett		3	1	0.3	4	0
   35 Crawford		3	3	1.0	2	1
   
   Passing		Att	Comp	Yards	Yd/Att	Long	TD	Int	Sckd
   2 Pritchett		27	18	179	6.6	37	0	0	2
   
   Receiving		Catch	Yards	Avg	YAC	Long	TD
   49 Oksenberg		6	51	8.5	33	16	0
   85 McAlister		4	33	8.2	2	11	0
   19 Hill		3	63	21.0	6	37	0
   84 Graham		2	13	6.5	1	9	0
   38 Stone		2	16	8.0	3	9	0
   35 Crawford		1	3	3.0	0	3	0
   
   Punt Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   36 Baker		2	5	2.5	0
   
   Kick Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   36 Baker		3	74	24.6	0
   
   Punting		Punts	Yards	Avg	Long	In20
   9 Metz		3	122	40.6	41	1
   
   Kicking		FG	FGA	Long	PAT	Att
   7 Bridges		1	3	44	4	4
   
   Defense		Tackle	Assist	Sack	Int	IntYds	IntTD
   57 Bell		9	1	0.0	1	35	1
   33 Wetherbee		6	2	0.0	0	0	0
   95 John		5	3	0.0	0	0	0
   27 Dennis		4	1	2.0	0	0	0
   44 Armstrong		3	3	0.0	0	0	0
   48 Bridgeman		3	1	0.0	0	0	0
   99 Mahoney		3	0	0.0	0	0	0
   59 Horn		3	0	0.0	0	0	0
   42 Flynn		2	1	0.0	0	0	0
   39 Carlson		2	0	0.0	0	0	0
   24 Varner		2	0	0.0	0	0	0
   71 Davison		2	0	0.0	0	0	0
   62 Strikwerda		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   18 Wallis		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   84 Graham		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   36 Baker		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   79 Wolfe		0	4	0.0	0	0	0
   
   Miscellaneous		Fumb	FForc	Recov	MiscTD	KeyRBlk	SckAlwd
   50 Cates		0	0	0	0	9	1
   69 Johnston		0	0	0	0	5	1
   75 Meekin		0	0	0	0	2	0
   74 Gaines		0	0	0	0	1	0
   
   Fort Knox Individual Statistics
   
   Rushing		Att	Yards	Avg	Long	TD
   28 Slattery		17	54	3.1	13	1
   47 McDowall		4	18	4.5	16	0
   11 Greene		1	3	3.0	3	0
   49 Addy		1	-1	-1.0	-1	0
   
   Passing		Att	Comp	Yards	Yd/Att	Long	TD	Int	Sckd
   11 Greene		38	20	231	6.0	25	2	1	2
   
   Receiving		Catch	Yards	Avg	YAC	Long	TD
   28 Slattery		7	59	8.4	4	13	2
   88 Willis		5	79	15.8	17	24	0
   84 Walsh		3	29	9.6	2	11	0
   89 Spencer		3	46	15.3	5	25	0
   86 Wilkerson		1	17	17.0	1	17	0
   39 Meier		1	1	1.0	0	1	0
   
   Punt Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   
   Kick Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   45 Rainwater		3	95	31.6	0
   47 McDowall		3	49	16.3	0
   
   Punting		Punts	Yards	Avg	Long	In20
   12 Prigge		4	133	33.2	50	0
   
   Kicking		FG	FGA	Long	PAT	Att
   19 Biernoth		0	1	0	3	3
   
   Defense		Tackle	Assist	Sack	Int	IntYds	IntTD
   97 Monroe		7	3	1.0	0	0	0
   45 Rainwater		7	1	0.0	0	0	0
   40 Hoover		6	3	0.0	0	0	0
   20 Stevens		6	2	0.0	0	0	0
   27 Scrafford		5	0	0.0	0	0	0
   55 Tyler		4	3	0.0	0	0	0
   56 Schott		4	1	0.0	0	0	0
   70 Dixon		3	0	1.0	0	0	0
   43 Borders		2	2	0.0	0	0	0
   95 Garrett		2	2	0.0	0	0	0
   52 Powell		2	1	0.0	0	0	0
   93 Szilter		2	1	0.0	0	0	0
   24 Crane		2	1	0.0	0	0	0
   77 Dunn		1	2	0.0	0	0	0
   33 Lyles		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   73 Vandenberg		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   86 Wilkerson		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   98 Devlin		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   47 McDowall		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   
   Miscellaneous		Fumb	FForc	Recov	MiscTD	KeyRBlk	SckAlwd
   78 Newman		0	0	0	0	2	1
   61 Carley		0	0	0	0	1	1
   49 Addy		0	0	0	0	2	0
   68 Kinney		0	0	0	0	1	0
   
   Little Rock Drive Chart
   	Quar	Began	Poss	From		Plays	Yards	Result
   	1	11:21	5:53	OWN 20		12	53	Missed FG
   	1	2:01	6:12	OWN 22		13	78	Touchdown
   	2	7:17	3:25	OWN 20		7	80	Touchdown
   	2	1:06	0:36	OPP 33		3	3	Missed FG
   	3	15:00	2:09	OWN 26		3	6	Punt
   	3	11:53	1:53	OWN 22		3	9	Punt
   	3	4:22	3:43	OWN 38		5	35	Field Goal
   	4	10:23	7:28	OWN 25		16	75	Touchdown
   	4	1:51	0:38	50		3	5	Punt
   	4	0:26	0:26	OPP 14		2	-3	Game
   
   Fort Knox Drive Chart
   	Quar	Began	Poss	From		Plays	Yards	Result
   	1	15:00	3:39	OWN 25		8	34	Punt
   	1	5:28	3:27	OWN 34		8	66	Touchdown
   	2	10:49	0:43	OWN 23		2	0	Interception
   	2	10:06	2:49	OWN 43		6	57	Touchdown
   	2	3:52	2:46	OWN 31		4	22	Punt
   	2	0:30	0:30	OWN 37		2	-2	Half
   	3	12:51	0:58	OWN 27		3	3	Punt
   	3	10:00	5:38	OWN 28		11	41	Missed FG
   	3	0:39	5:16	OWN 41		12	59	Touchdown
   	4	2:55	1:04	OWN 18		3	-7	Punt
   	4	1:13	0:47	OWN 5		4	9	Downs
   
   Little Rock Red Zone Profile
   		Visits	TDs	FGs
   		5	3	1
   
   Fort Knox Red Zone Profile
   		Visits	TDs	FGs
   		3	3	0
   
   Little Rock Rushing Breakdown
   
   Direction		Rush	Yards	Ave
   Left		15	96	6.4
   Middle		16	67	4.1
   Right		5	30	6.0
   None		2	-3	-1.5
   
   Run Blocking		KeyBlks	BlkOpps	RunPlays
   50 Cates		9	13	37
   69 Johnston		5	11	37
   75 Meekin		2	6	37
   74 Gaines		1	2	37
   63 Wooldridge		0	2	37
   38 Stone		0	1	32
   47 Hutchins		0	0	31
   84 Graham		0	0	13
   
   Little Rock Passing Breakdown
   
   Distance		Pass	Comp	Yards	Ave
   Screen		5	4	23	4.6
   Short (0-8 Yds)		9	7	45	5.0
   Medium (9-18 Yds)		8	6	74	9.2
   Long (19+ Yds)		5	1	37	7.4
   
   Passing		Attempt	Comp	BdThrw	Dropd	Defnsd	Blockd	Hurried	Intrcpt
   2 Pritchett		27	18	1	1	3	2	2	0
   
   Receiving		Target	Caught	Dropd	Yards	PassPlay
   49 Oksenberg		7	6	1	51	24
   19 Hill		6	3	0	63	27
   84 Graham		4	2	0	13	11
   38 Stone		4	2	0	16	23
   85 McAlister		4	4	0	33	19
   35 Crawford		1	1	0	3	3
   47 Hutchins		1	0	0	0	18
   
   Pass Block		SckAlwd		PassPlay
   69 Johnston		1		27
   74 Gaines		0		27
   50 Cates		1		27
   75 Meekin		0		27
   63 Wooldridge		0		27
   38 Stone		0		23
   
   Pass Rush		Sacks	PsBlks	Hurries	PassPlay
   27 Dennis		2.0	0	0	38
   77 Blow		0.0	1	1	38
   71 Davison		0.0	0	2	38
   48 Bridgeman		0.0	0	0	38
   33 Wetherbee		0.0	0	0	38
   44 Armstrong		0.0	0	0	38
   79 Wolfe		0.0	0	0	38
   95 John		0.0	0	0	36
   57 Bell		0.0	0	0	32
   59 Horn		0.0	0	0	21
   62 Strikwerda		0.0	0	0	20
   99 Mahoney		0.0	0	0	18
   24 Varner		0.0	0	0	17
   42 Flynn		0.0	0	0	6
   51 Martinez		0.0	0	0	2
   
   Pass Defense		Caught	Defnsd	Intrcpt	PassPlay
   33 Wetherbee		5	1	0	38
   44 Armstrong		3	2	0	38
   57 Bell		3	0	1	32
   48 Bridgeman		2	2	0	38
   27 Dennis		2	1	0	38
   95 John		2	1	0	36
   42 Flynn		2	0	0	6
   24 Varner		1	0	0	17
   59 Horn		0	1	0	21
   71 Davison		0	0	0	38
   77 Blow		0	0	0	38
   79 Wolfe		0	0	0	38
   62 Strikwerda		0	0	0	20
   99 Mahoney		0	0	0	18
   51 Martinez		0	0	0	2
   
   Defense		Tackles	Assists	RunPlay	PassPlay
   57 Bell		9	1	20	32
   33 Wetherbee		6	2	22	38
   95 John		5	3	22	36
   27 Dennis		4	1	22	38
   44 Armstrong		3	3	22	38
   48 Bridgeman		3	1	22	38
   59 Horn		3	0	17	21
   99 Mahoney		3	0	11	18
   42 Flynn		2	1	2	6
   71 Davison		2	0	22	38
   24 Varner		2	0	5	17
   39 Carlson		2	0	0	0
   62 Strikwerda		1	0	11	20
   79 Wolfe		0	4	22	38
   77 Blow		0	0	22	38
   51 Martinez		0	0	0	2
   
   Fort Knox Rushing Breakdown
   
   Direction		Rush	Yards	Ave
   Left		7	9	1.2
   Middle		13	54	4.1
   Right		3	11	3.6
   None		0	0	0.0
   
   Run Blocking		KeyBlks	BlkOpps	RunPlays
   49 Addy		2	4	16
   78 Newman		2	3	22
   68 Kinney		1	7	22
   61 Carley		1	5	22
   50 Starks		0	2	22
   73 Vandenberg		0	1	22
   86 Wilkerson		0	0	19
   82 Malerich		0	0	3
   
   Fort Knox Passing Breakdown
   
   Distance		Pass	Comp	Yards	Ave
   Screen		0	0	0	0.0
   Short (0-8 Yds)		9	5	24	2.6
   Medium (9-18 Yds)		23	14	182	7.9
   Long (19+ Yds)		6	1	25	4.1
   
   Passing		Attempt	Comp	BdThrw	Dropd	Defnsd	Blockd	Hurried	Intrcpt
   11 Greene		38	20	1	4	8	1	3	1
   
   Receiving		Target	Caught	Dropd	Yards	PassPlay
   28 Slattery		12	7	2	59	33
   88 Willis		11	5	2	79	33
   89 Spencer		6	3	0	46	29
   84 Walsh		5	3	0	29	25
   39 Meier		2	1	0	1	17
   86 Wilkerson		1	1	0	17	23
   47 McDowall		1	0	0	0	5
   
   Pass Block		SckAlwd		PassPlay
   50 Starks		0		38
   61 Carley		1		38
   68 Kinney		0		38
   78 Newman		1		38
   73 Vandenberg		0		38
   49 Addy		0		19
   
   Pass Rush		Sacks	PsBlks	Hurries	PassPlay
   70 Dixon		1.0	0	1	27
   97 Monroe		1.0	0	0	27
   95 Garrett		0.0	2	0	27
   77 Dunn		0.0	0	1	19
   40 Hoover		0.0	0	0	27
   20 Stevens		0.0	0	0	27
   45 Rainwater		0.0	0	0	27
   43 Borders		0.0	0	0	27
   55 Tyler		0.0	0	0	23
   56 Schott		0.0	0	0	20
   52 Powell		0.0	0	0	15
   27 Scrafford		0.0	0	0	12
   98 Devlin		0.0	0	0	8
   93 Szilter		0.0	0	0	7
   24 Crane		0.0	0	0	4
   
   Pass Defense		Caught	Defnsd	Intrcpt	PassPlay
   20 Stevens		3	1	0	27
   45 Rainwater		3	0	0	27
   43 Borders		2	0	0	27
   55 Tyler		2	0	0	23
   27 Scrafford		2	0	0	12
   24 Crane		2	0	0	4
   40 Hoover		1	2	0	27
   56 Schott		1	0	0	20
   77 Dunn		1	0	0	19
   93 Szilter		1	0	0	7
   97 Monroe		0	0	0	27
   95 Garrett		0	0	0	27
   70 Dixon		0	0	0	27
   52 Powell		0	0	0	15
   98 Devlin		0	0	0	8
   
   Defense		Tackles	Assists	RunPlay	PassPlay
   97 Monroe		7	3	37	27
   45 Rainwater		7	1	37	27
   40 Hoover		6	3	37	27
   20 Stevens		6	2	37	27
   27 Scrafford		5	0	14	12
   55 Tyler		4	3	33	23
   56 Schott		4	1	33	20
   70 Dixon		3	0	37	27
   43 Borders		2	2	37	27
   95 Garrett		2	2	37	27
   52 Powell		2	1	23	15
   93 Szilter		2	1	4	7
   24 Crane		2	1	4	4
   77 Dunn		1	2	16	19
   98 Devlin		1	0	21	8
   33 Lyles		1	0	0	0

Injuries:
WR Everett Rose, Out, Strained Elbow Tendon, 5 weeks
RB Brent Oksenberg, Probable, Turf Toe, Unknown
WLB Alan Martinez, Probable, Strained Thumb, 3 Weeks

[wade moore]

Little Rock (12-6) at Lake Eerie (12-6) (-1)

Box Score: Little Rock at Lake Erie
   Lake Erie, OH.
   
   Conference Finals, 1990
   
   Attendance: 62,700 (73,200).
   
   
   Weather: 26 degrees, fair.
   
   2Q: 14:04 LTR - Terrell Bridges 49 field goal.
   2Q: 08:17 LKE - Deon Vogel 6 pass from Gus Sham.
   2Q: 08:17 LKE - Ron MacIver extra point.
   3Q: 11:43 LKE - Ron MacIver 40 field goal.
   3Q: 01:17 LKE - Deon Vogel 67 pass from Gus Sham.
   3Q: 01:17 LKE - Ron MacIver extra point.
   4Q: 08:27 LTR - Duane Crawford 2 run.
   4Q: 08:27 LTR - Terrell Bridges extra point.
   
   Game MVP: LKE 86 Deon Vogel
   
   Little Rock	0	3	0	7	-	10
   Lake Erie	0	7	10	0	-	17
   
   Team Statistics		LTR		LKE
   
   First Downs		18		24
   
   Total Rushes		23		36
   Rushing Yards		121		167
   Yards Per Carry		5.2		4.6
   Pass Attempts		33		28
   Completions		11		20
   Passing Yards		143		286
   Yards Per Attempt		4.3		10.2
   Sacked		1		6
   Yards Lost		6		39
   Interceptions		1		1
   Fumbles/Lost		1/1		3/3
   
   Total Plays		56		64
   Total Yards		264		453
   Yards Per Play		4.7		7.0
   
   3rd Down Plays		6/13		8/14
   
   Avg. YTG on 3rd		7.3		6.7
   
   4th Down Plays		0/0		0/0
   
   Penalties		2		12
   Penalty Yards		6		89
   
   Avg. Drive Start		OWN 21		OWN 35
   Time Of Possession		23:34		36:26
   
   Little Rock Individual Statistics
   
   Rushing		Att	Yards	Avg	Long	TD
   49 Oksenberg		16	102	6.3	21	0
   35 Crawford		7	19	2.7	6	1
   
   Passing		Att	Comp	Yards	Yd/Att	Long	TD	Int	Sckd
   2 Pritchett		33	11	143	4.3	41	0	1	1
   
   Receiving		Catch	Yards	Avg	YAC	Long	TD
   47 Hutchins		3	22	7.3	2	11	0
   19 Hill		3	82	27.3	21	41	0
   49 Oksenberg		2	24	12.0	0	13	0
   85 McAlister		2	17	8.5	0	11	0
   38 Stone		1	-2	-2.0	0	-2	0
   
   Punt Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   
   Kick Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   36 Baker		2	43	21.5	0
   18 Wallis		1	19	19.0	0
   
   Punting		Punts	Yards	Avg	Long	In20
   9 Metz		6	275	45.8	65	2
   
   Kicking		FG	FGA	Long	PAT	Att
   7 Bridges		1	1	49	1	1
   
   Defense		Tackle	Assist	Sack	Int	IntYds	IntTD
   95 John		9	1	0.0	0	0	0
   57 Bell		7	2	0.0	0	0	0
   59 Horn		7	0	0.0	0	0	0
   48 Bridgeman		6	3	0.0	0	0	0
   71 Davison		5	4	2.0	0	0	0
   33 Wetherbee		5	4	0.0	1	0	0
   79 Wolfe		4	3	2.0	0	0	0
   99 Mahoney		4	1	0.5	0	0	0
   44 Armstrong		4	1	0.0	0	0	0
   62 Strikwerda		2	0	1.0	0	0	0
   77 Blow		2	2	0.5	0	0	0
   27 Dennis		2	3	0.0	0	0	0
   24 Varner		2	1	0.0	0	0	0
   74 Gaines		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   58 Von Hagel		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   39 Carlson		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   32 LaRiche		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   49 Oksenberg		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   63 Wooldridge		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   19 Hill		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   
   Miscellaneous		Fumb	FForc	Recov	MiscTD	KeyRBlk	SckAlwd
   38 Stone		0	0	0	0	2	1
   69 Johnston		0	0	0	0	2	0
   99 Mahoney		0	0	2	0	0	0
   57 Bell		0	1	1	0	0	0
   75 Meekin		0	0	0	0	2	0
   33 Wetherbee		0	2	0	0	0	0
   74 Gaines		0	0	0	0	1	0
   50 Cates		0	0	0	0	1	0
   84 Graham		0	0	0	0	1	0
   63 Wooldridge		0	0	0	0	1	0
   36 Baker		1	0	0	0	0	0
   
   Lake Erie Individual Statistics
   
   Rushing		Att	Yards	Avg	Long	TD
   34 Lengel		26	135	5.1	14	0
   32 Chrysler		4	16	4.0	7	0
   46 Dodge		3	9	3.0	7	0
   1 Sham		2	3	1.5	4	0
   86 Vogel		1	4	4.0	4	0
   
   Passing		Att	Comp	Yards	Yd/Att	Long	TD	Int	Sckd
   1 Sham		28	20	286	10.2	67	2	1	6
   
   Receiving		Catch	Yards	Avg	YAC	Long	TD
   86 Vogel		9	184	20.4	70	67	2
   34 Lengel		3	14	4.6	0	7	0
   84 Jacobs		3	43	14.3	2	24	0
   88 Alston		3	16	5.3	2	11	0
   83 Weber		1	17	17.0	1	17	0
   47 McKnight		1	12	12.0	14	12	0
   
   Punt Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   86 Vogel		3	20	6.6	0
   
   Kick Returns		Att	Yards	Avg	TD
   83 Weber		2	66	33.0	0
   84 Jacobs		1	19	19.0	0
   
   Punting		Punts	Yards	Avg	Long	In20
   2 Blanchard		3	117	39.0	45	1
   
   Kicking		FG	FGA	Long	PAT	Att
   18 MacIver		1	2	40	2	2
   
   Defense		Tackle	Assist	Sack	Int	IntYds	IntTD
   33 Lowrey		8	1	0.0	0	0	0
   94 Adcock		7	2	0.0	0	0	0
   93 Olivo		3	2	0.0	0	0	0
   24 Stelick		3	0	0.0	1	0	0
   31 Sells		3	0	0.0	0	0	0
   92 Thiele		2	2	0.0	0	0	0
   95 Johnston		2	1	0.0	0	0	0
   73 Sumter		2	1	0.0	0	0	0
   49 Creekmur		2	0	0.0	0	0	0
   90 Rau		1	0	1.0	0	0	0
   52 Horton		1	2	0.0	0	0	0
   86 Vogel		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   83 Weber		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   71 Anderson		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   89 Fulcher		1	0	0.0	0	0	0
   40 Connell		0	1	0.0	0	0	0
   
   Miscellaneous		Fumb	FForc	Recov	MiscTD	KeyRBlk	SckAlwd
   57 McClurken		0	0	0	0	1	1
   64 Ledyard		0	0	0	0	3	3
   66 Webb		0	0	0	0	7	1
   61 Knight		0	0	0	0	8	1
   1 Sham		3	0	0	0	0	0
   89 Fulcher		0	1	0	0	0	0
   28 Harmon		0	0	1	0	0	0
   
   Little Rock Drive Chart
   	Quar	Began	Poss	From		Plays	Yards	Result
   	1	15:00	3:08	OWN 24		4	14	Punt
   	1	9:09	1:04	OWN 33		3	38	Interception
   	1	1:43	2:39	OWN 10		9	58	Field Goal
   	2	4:42	0:34	OWN 7		3	0	Punt
   	2	1:55	1:55	OWN 19		7	70	Half
   	3	11:43	1:34	OWN 3		3	4	Punt
   	3	6:46	2:42	OWN 7		6	9	Punt
   	3	3:03	1:37	OWN 30		3	1	Punt
   	3	1:17	7:50	OWN 17		15	83	Touchdown
   	4	4:40	0:29	OWN 43		3	0	Punt
   	4	0:13	0:13	OWN 39		3	15	Game
   
   Lake Erie Drive Chart
   	Quar	Began	Poss	From		Plays	Yards	Result
   	1	11:52	2:43	OWN 23		5	10	Punt
   	1	8:05	6:22	OWN 19		13	71	Fumble
   	2	14:04	5:47	OWN 48		10	52	Touchdown
   	2	8:11	3:29	OPP 40		6	33	Fumble
   	2	4:08	2:13	OPP 33		4	14	Fumble
   	3	15:00	3:17	OWN 36		6	41	Field Goal
   	3	10:09	3:23	OWN 32		6	14	Punt
   	3	4:04	1:01	OWN 37		3	-5	Punt
   	3	1:26	0:09	OWN 33		1	67	Touchdown
   	4	8:27	3:47	OWN 22		6	20	Interception
   	4	4:11	3:58	OWN 11		10	57	Missed FG
   
   Little Rock Red Zone Profile
   		Visits	TDs	FGs
   		2	1	0
   
   Lake Erie Red Zone Profile
   		Visits	TDs	FGs
   		5	1	1
   
   Little Rock Rushing Breakdown
   
   Direction		Rush	Yards	Ave
   Left		4	15	3.7
   Middle		9	30	3.3
   Right		10	76	7.6
   None		0	0	0.0
   
   Run Blocking		KeyBlks	BlkOpps	RunPlays
   75 Meekin		2	7	23
   69 Johnston		2	3	23
   38 Stone		2	2	15
   74 Gaines		1	3	23
   63 Wooldridge		1	3	23
   50 Cates		1	2	23
   84 Graham		1	1	5
   47 Hutchins		0	2	17
   
   Little Rock Passing Breakdown
   
   Distance		Pass	Comp	Yards	Ave
   Screen		5	1	-2	-0.4
   Short (0-8 Yds)		5	3	17	3.4
   Medium (9-18 Yds)		13	6	87	6.6
   Long (19+ Yds)		10	1	41	4.1
   
   Passing		Attempt	Comp	BdThrw	Dropd	Defnsd	Blockd	Hurried	Intrcpt
   2 Pritchett		33	11	2	2	9	0	8	1
   
   Receiving		Target	Caught	Dropd	Yards	PassPlay
   19 Hill		12	3	0	82	32
   85 McAlister		9	2	2	17	31
   49 Oksenberg		5	2	0	24	27
   47 Hutchins		3	3	0	22	25
   38 Stone		2	1	0	-2	21
   84 Graham		1	0	0	0	4
   35 Crawford		1	0	0	0	6
   
   Pass Block		SckAlwd		PassPlay
   69 Johnston		0		33
   74 Gaines		0		33
   50 Cates		0		33
   75 Meekin		0		33
   63 Wooldridge		0		33
   38 Stone		1		21
   
   Pass Rush		Sacks	PsBlks	Hurries	PassPlay
   79 Wolfe		2.0	0	2	28
   71 Davison		2.0	0	0	28
   62 Strikwerda		1.0	0	0	10
   77 Blow		0.5	0	0	28
   99 Mahoney		0.5	0	0	18
   44 Armstrong		0.0	1	0	28
   48 Bridgeman		0.0	0	0	28
   95 John		0.0	0	0	28
   33 Wetherbee		0.0	0	0	28
   27 Dennis		0.0	0	0	28
   57 Bell		0.0	0	0	27
   59 Horn		0.0	0	0	21
   24 Varner		0.0	0	0	7
   42 Flynn		0.0	0	0	1
   
   Pass Defense		Caught	Defnsd	Intrcpt	PassPlay
   95 John		4	1	0	28
   33 Wetherbee		3	1	1	28
   27 Dennis		3	0	0	28
   44 Armstrong		3	0	0	28
   57 Bell		3	0	0	27
   59 Horn		2	0	0	21
   48 Bridgeman		1	0	0	28
   24 Varner		1	0	0	7
   79 Wolfe		0	1	0	28
   71 Davison		0	0	0	28
   77 Blow		0	0	0	28
   99 Mahoney		0	0	0	18
   62 Strikwerda		0	0	0	10
   42 Flynn		0	0	0	1
   
   Defense		Tackles	Assists	RunPlay	PassPlay
   95 John		9	1	34	28
   57 Bell		7	2	31	27
   59 Horn		7	0	28	21
   48 Bridgeman		6	3	35	28
   33 Wetherbee		5	4	35	28
   71 Davison		5	4	35	28
   79 Wolfe		4	3	35	28
   44 Armstrong		4	1	35	28
   99 Mahoney		4	1	25	18
   27 Dennis		2	3	34	28
   77 Blow		2	2	35	28
   24 Varner		2	1	8	7
   62 Strikwerda		2	0	10	10
   58 Von Hagel		1	0	0	0
   39 Carlson		1	0	0	0
   32 LaRiche		1	0	0	0
   42 Flynn		0	0	4	1
   51 Martinez		0	0	1	0
   
   Lake Erie Rushing Breakdown
   
   Direction		Rush	Yards	Ave
   Left		8	39	4.8
   Middle		14	55	3.9
   Right		13	74	5.6
   None		1	-1	-1.0
   
   Run Blocking		KeyBlks	BlkOpps	RunPlays
   61 Knight		8	10	35
   66 Webb		7	13	35
   64 Ledyard		3	6	35
   57 McClurken		1	3	35
   76 Becker		0	1	27
   88 Alston		0	0	34
   47 McKnight		0	1	20
   46 Dodge		0	0	13
   79 Reed		0	0	8
   89 Fulcher		0	0	5
   
   Lake Erie Passing Breakdown
   
   Distance		Pass	Comp	Yards	Ave
   Screen		3	2	12	4.0
   Short (0-8 Yds)		10	7	37	3.7
   Medium (9-18 Yds)		12	8	162	13.5
   Long (19+ Yds)		3	3	75	25.0
   
   Passing		Attempt	Comp	BdThrw	Dropd	Defnsd	Blockd	Hurried	Intrcpt
   1 Sham		28	20	1	0	3	1	2	1
   
   Receiving		Target	Caught	Dropd	Yards	PassPlay
   86 Vogel		13	9	0	184	28
   34 Lengel		4	3	0	14	21
   88 Alston		4	3	0	16	25
   84 Jacobs		3	3	0	43	25
   83 Weber		2	1	0	17	9
   47 McKnight		2	1	0	12	17
   
   Pass Block		SckAlwd		PassPlay
   61 Knight		1		28
   66 Webb		1		28
   64 Ledyard		3		28
   57 McClurken		1		28
   76 Becker		0		26
   47 McKnight		0		17
   46 Dodge		0		3
   79 Reed		0		2
   
   Pass Rush		Sacks	PsBlks	Hurries	PassPlay
   90 Rau		1.0	0	0	19
   73 Sumter		0.0	0	4	33
   92 Thiele		0.0	0	1	33
   71 Anderson		0.0	0	1	30
   94 Adcock		0.0	0	0	33
   33 Lowrey		0.0	0	0	33
   31 Sells		0.0	0	0	33
   49 Creekmur		0.0	0	0	33
   24 Stelick		0.0	0	0	32
   40 Connell		0.0	0	1	18
   93 Olivo		0.0	0	0	25
   95 Johnston		0.0	0	1	14
   52 Horton		0.0	0	0	15
   20 Andersen		0.0	0	0	8
   72 Harmon		0.0	0	0	3
   22 Sliva		0.0	0	0	1
   
   Pass Defense		Caught	Defnsd	Intrcpt	PassPlay
   33 Lowrey		4	0	0	33
   94 Adcock		2	0	0	33
   49 Creekmur		1	5	0	33
   93 Olivo		1	2	0	25
   31 Sells		1	0	0	33
   73 Sumter		1	0	0	33
   92 Thiele		1	0	0	33
   24 Stelick		0	2	1	32
   71 Anderson		0	0	0	30
   90 Rau		0	0	0	19
   40 Connell		0	0	0	18
   52 Horton		0	0	0	15
   95 Johnston		0	0	0	14
   20 Andersen		0	0	0	8
   72 Harmon		0	0	0	3
   22 Sliva		0	0	0	1
   
   Defense		Tackles	Assists	RunPlay	PassPlay
   33 Lowrey		8	1	23	33
   94 Adcock		7	2	23	33
   93 Olivo		3	2	20	25
   31 Sells		3	0	23	33
   24 Stelick		3	0	23	32
   92 Thiele		2	2	22	33
   73 Sumter		2	1	23	33
   95 Johnston		2	1	19	14
   49 Creekmur		2	0	23	33
   52 Horton		1	2	19	15
   71 Anderson		1	0	23	30
   90 Rau		1	0	4	19
   40 Connell		0	1	4	18
   20 Andersen		0	0	3	8
   72 Harmon		0	0	0	3
   22 Sliva		0	0	0	1
   99 Whitney		0	0	1	0

[wade moore]

Puget Sound beats Lake Eerie 19-17 in the Championship game..

I'll throw up the files and then try to post some more data later tonight or tomorrow..

File 1..

[wade moore]

File 2...

[Bee]

So we got to the conference championship game our first season...that's a good thing right?

[Bee]

Here's an interesting little tidbit:

  

  Player                #   Pos  Exp  Overall  RunBlck   PassBlck  BlckStr  Endur 

Wooldridge, Hardy       63  LT   2    35/64    22/56      25/68      86     35/38        

                                      46/64    35/56      40/68      86       38

First line was at the start of the season (after training camp) the line in red was at the end of the season. That was a pretty dramatic improvement over the season (probably because he started?).

[QuikSand]

Anhryddedu,

I see your point. I'm also quite sure you see mine. There's a differenc ebetween playing a game that has these elements built into it in ways that we don't fully understand (CM) and playing a game without these elements and trying to insert them by appointing one or more people to conjure up weird ideas for the gamer(s) to follow along. Nothing against WSUCouger, our resident gamemaster, but I don't want to play FOF4 with him rolling a bunch of dice and giving us various dicta based on them.

If I want that in a game, I'll go in with my eyes open - I'll play CM or some game that deliberately includes those elements woven into the fabric of the game.

But again - I'm not speaking for anyoen but myself here. These "outside the box" scenarios might work fine for some other folks here, just not for me, at least in this instance. Nothing wrong with that, either.

Cheers.

[Bee]

While I think the idea Anhryddedu had is interesting and may be fun, I don't want to put it into our current game. It sounds more like an idea that needs to start a separate dynasty. I think it would be too drastic a change to our current dynasty and that's not what the participants signed up for in this dynasty. Just my 4 cents.

[Anrhydeddu]

That's just it, I clearly do see your point, which was one of the sources of frustration for me regarding what FOF4 became. It doesn't make any sense to roll a d10 any more than further piling on house rules. They both try to accomplish the same thing - giving you less of an advantage versus the AI. This group think should be about fun for all and right now, I perceive, it is not fun for you.

[wade moore]

For my short opinion on this..

I think adding these elements could be a fun challenged, but as mentioned, it doesn't seem to be appropriate to add here..

If we're going to add here I think it needs to be a more static house rule.. signing restrictions, etc. that are easier enforced and more numbers based and less chance based...

I do wonder, however, how necessary they are.. as Bee mentioned, as the years go on we should have to make more of the decisions that QS touts highly... the only thing I would say is we could add something like "you have to make every effort to sign fan favorites" or perhaps the idea of giving us a lowered percentage of the salary cap.. something of that sort.. for now, I am personally having fun, particuraly because we are keeping a brisk pace (i believe a slow pace where we just won all of the time would be much less entertaining).. with this pace we should hit those decisions, if we will hit them, faster... keep in mind we won't always have these large cap openings like we had beginning here, etc, etc..

Perhaps a house rule could be that we cannot cut a player until their contract is out or something like that?

[wade moore]

League Awards:

Front Office Football: The Fourth Edition
1990 Awards List
   
   Award                                      Player                      Team  
Player of the Year                            Michael Grzecki             CHA    
Front Office Bowl MVP                         Kris Webb                    PS    
Coach of the Year                             Not Yet Awarded               
Legend of the Game                            Not Yet Awarded               
**Offensive Player of the Year                Brent Oksenberg             LTR    
Defensive Player of the Year                  Ron Newton                  BER    
Offensive Rookie of the Year                  R.J. Littlejohn             MEM    
Defensive Rookie of the Year                  Drew Sullenger              DVY    
All-League First-String Quarterback           Wally Greene                FKX    
**All-League First-String Running Back        Brent Oksenberg             LTR    
All-League First-String Fullback              K.C. Brubaker               PEN    
All-League First-String Tight End             Rico Dasilva                SSM    
All-League First-String Wide Receiver         Randal Lonier               LVL    
All-League First-String Wide Receiver         Hardy Fields                MEM    
All-League First-String Center                Tommy Allen                 CHA    
All-League First-String Offensive Guard       Marty Cooper                 NV    
**All-League First-String Offensive Guard     Calvin Gaines               LTR    
All-League First-String Offensive Tackle      Roy Wentz                   TUL    
All-League First-String Offensive Tackle      Cory McCombs                 PS    
All-League First-String Punter                Keith Bixby                  TB    
All-League First-String Kicker                Maurice Cash                MAN    
All-League First-String Defensive End         Ron Newton                  BER    
All-League First-String Defensive End         Bert Ogden                  WHE    
All-League First-String Defensive Tackle      Lamar Carrion               CHA    
All-League First-String Defensive Tackle      Patrick Arnold              LVL    
All-League First-String Inside Linebacker     J.B. Wolfe                  HWK    
All-League First-String Outside Linebacker    Jose Whitfield              NSH    
All-League First-String Outside Linebacker    Antoine Coccione            LVL    
All-League First-String Cornerback            Quinn Mayes                 CHA    
All-League First-String Cornerback            Deon Walls                  TXA    
All-League First-String Safety                Anthony Patton              BER    
All-League First-String Safety                Greg Tafoya                 ATH    
All-League Second-String Quarterback          Michael Grzecki             CHA    
All-League Second-String Running Back         Marty Battle                TUL    
All-League Second-String Fullback             Derek Miller                CHA    
All-League Second-String Tight End            Ty England                  DVY    
All-League Second-String Wide Receiver        Deon Vogel                  LKE    
All-League Second-String Wide Receiver        Stanley Willis              FKX    
All-League Second-String Center               Tyrone Roush                TXA    
All-League Second-String Offensive Guard      J.C. Carley                 FKX    
**All-League Second-String Offensive Guard    Shaun Meekin                LTR    
All-League Second-String Offensive Tackle     Sherman Waldteufel          CHA    
All-League Second-String Offensive Tackle     Sammy Leff                  MAN    
All-League Second-String Punter               Courtney Markel             ATH    
All-League Second-String Kicker               Jeff Smith                  MAZ    
All-League Second-String Defensive End        Nate Goolsby                TXA    
All-League Second-String Defensive End        Percy Foley                 KYH    
All-League Second-String Defensive Tackle     Donny Dunkin                PEN    
All-League Second-String Defensive Tackle     Buddy Mendoza               MAZ    
All-League Second-String Inside Linebacker    Rondell Wiggins             PRV    
All-League Second-String Outside Linebacker   J.C. Wickes                  NV    
All-League Second-String Outside Linebacker   Donnie McKenzie             OCY    
All-League Second-String Cornerback           Jeremy Edgeworth            MAZ    
All-League Second-String Cornerback           Wesley Seals                BER    
All-League Second-String Safety               Kendrick Fadiman            HWK    
All-League Second-String Safety               Lester Madera               OCY    

[Bee]

Originally posted by wade moore

... the only thing I would say is we could add something like "you have to make every effort to sign fan favorites" or perhaps the idea of giving us a lowered percentage of the salary cap.. something of that sort..

We have a rule about having to resign "fan favorites" (offering them their requested contract during week 1 of free agency) or did you mean free agent "fan favorites"?

[wade moore]

I meant moving beyond "you have to make a minimum offer" to "you have to make every effort to sign"... a small difference, but could be pretty significant..

[QuikSand]

So, we put two guards onto the pro bowl roster. In real life, that would probably mean that we'd be "committed" to them, willing to offer them a new contract. In FOF4, my own temptation is to simply recognize that guards are a dime a doze, and these kudos are a function of opportunity more than performance.

How do we play it in this exercise? I haven't looked to see what the fan perspective is, but should that be the only thing that matters?

[wade moore]

Hrmm.. that could be an interesting addition... lump pro-bowlers in with fan favorites? I think that is a very reasonable/realism addition to the game... My thought is that this would be a very logical addition that plays into our house rules and also adds a challenge..

[QuikSand]

I tried to print out the "Team Summary" text, but I'm still suffering from a problem where the first letter of each line is cut off, making things tough to read. Could someone else please post that text?

[QuikSand]

wade did you save teh game after you ran the playoff games? I downloaded, but all I have is up to, but not including the playoffs...

[Bee]

Originally posted by wade moore
Hrmm.. that could be an interesting addition... lump pro-bowlers in with fan favorites? I think that is a very reasonable/realism addition to the game... My thought is that this would be a very logical addition that plays into our house rules and also adds a challenge..

Perhaps after a all-pro year a player has to be offered a new contract?

[primelord]

Originally posted by Bee
Perhaps after a all-pro year a player has to be offered a new contract?

Is there any limit to that? In other words if we have a guy make the All-Pro squad 5 years in a row do we have to offer him a contract all 5 years?

[Bee]

I don't know. Hadn't really thought about it. Perhaps we could say something like we have to offer a new contract unless they just signed a new one that year?

or like Wade said, we could just treat them the same as "fan favorites" if their contract is up that season?

I like the idea of doing something for guys who make the all-pro teams, but not sure exactly what the best method would be to reward them.

[wade moore]

I swear I saved it this time... *grumble*... is anyone else having the same problem? I'm really showing myself to be a moron here if I did the same thing again.. sigh..

[QuikSand]

I think you may have saved, but you just re-posted the game files from weeks 13-16 again. The files have the same names as the ones you posted then- including only up to the penultimate regular season game.